Regional areas have a problem creating intensity so
Why are no clubs in the major cities offering Intense training for players from regional areas?
Surly it would be a revenue raising /possible way of identifying talent at no cost to them?

Its so obvious - no wonder the NSL died.](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

Edited by krones3: 27/6/2012 06:56:35 AM

So if you took a 20 player team of the best players 16-19 year olds to Victoria how hard would it be to get pre season games against top teams?

Somewhere else you commented about the lack of intensity facing regional players. I think it is a good point. Maybe this is why players from Tasmania struggle to gain pro contracts? I've just noticed that the ACT produces higher calibre players though.

Even with Arthur's elite team that went to France, it was found the intensity of games in Melbourne didn't equip players for facing the competition in France.

Poingnatly, France is a country that supposedly has one of the best development systems in the world.

The difference with the intensity in the European junior leagues compared to the anywhere in Australia leagues is that in Europe they play 40-45 hard intense games a year. How many do they play here? I'd say they play anywhere between 20-25 games a year max. How many of those 20-25 games are at a very high intensity? Maybe 10-12!!! There is the difference my friends. Over there you make a mistake you get punished. Here you most probably get away with it 80% of the time.
I have just returned from the UK and I can tell you that our boys can match the European boys if they had the same week in week out high intensity games.

100%
with one exception in townsville you will only get 3-4 intense games in a 20 game season.
with this in mind to expect a player to go from here to the city or Europe and instantly perform at a top level is ludicrousness.
This is why i am starting to explore alternatives.

any ideas within Australia's eastern seaboard?

Given the low probability of players assuming a well paying pro career, I wouldn't worry about it.

If you have a child with that much potential, then maybe a move to a bigger urban centre. Also, there are problems with early developers not reaching their potential as senior players.

It would have been good for you to speak to Peter de Roo about this issue.

I'd also definitely look at a trip to Sydney and have some sessions with ASA. Even though there are some naysayers, ASA has produced more pro contracts than some regional NTC programmes. It may be due to lack of regional intensity for NTC teams, as you suggest, but I think ASA have teams in elite competitions in NSW, or at least players.

The question is how do we improve the intensity levels here? Is it more games? Better coaches? Larger squads?
If that's is required to match our European counterparts?

The problem is that many country towns have only 1 field, a footy field and a cricket field are normally shared. Regional Australia needs a lot of work to get football, our football, into the picture.

Pro or not is not really the problem.I believe a player who loves the game should be helped to reach their highest level.

Peter de roo is clearly able to see a player with potential that will improve with higher intensity training, others i am not so sure of.

Your suggestion of ASA is one i will be exploring.

I believe the only way to match our European counter parts is to play in Europe.

Funnily enuf an u16 coach was complaining about this, but then again the sessions are getting predictable 1 hour of pattern passing, dynamics still being used 45 min into a session. Game day just as predictable as former state players not moved regardless of effort/performance .Practice how you play comes to mind.

i see a lot of teams at this age group where individual players lack the skill. touch or discipline to play a structured game. Maybe that is what the coach has seen?

I believe the players i would select for this would have been the fury NYL if we had one.

Sadly, much of the UK is not an epicentre of world football. Unfortunately, very few stakeholders in the country share this opinion, even though probably widely held on the European continent. This is a shame, given we speak the same language and most of us have strong ties.

We have used a fair bit of stuff from Everton Academy. Another coach I know spent a bit of time there last year. The training ground content has been very sound though.

Another option is Gareth Edds and his soccer school. He operates in your region doesn't he?

I just wonder if opportunities seem to have declined in your area since the demise of Fury?

Was there more of an opportunity for young players to come under the u influence of the professional set up at Fury? Hence, intensity of training issues being addressed.

Gareth edds academy is brilliant.

Yes and more drive from players, now we have neither a carrot or a stick.

same session ( relentless unopposed ) twice out of the three a week for 4 months and i think most players will tune out as they have.

For regional players they really have to be exceptional players to be given a chance. If you look at some of the recent regional players to make national youth teams in the last decade or so they were all star players in their age group. Nathan Burns (NSW Country), Matt Spiranovic (VIC Country), Mitch Langerak (QLD Country), Ben Kantarovski (Northen NSW), Carl Valeri, Kaz Patafta (ACT). The last 3 were all Joeys captains. I read a list on another website from someone from the south coast that had all the A-League players and notable overseas players from the south coast and ACT and almost all of them had represented Australia at youth level. If I can find it, I’ll post it here. It basically means that for a regional player to be picked by an A-League team or NYL they most likely would have already had to be identified by national team selectors.

I don’t think you will see any changes any time soon and with the changes to the youth nationals there might be even less regional players making it. Since they changed it from two even pools to a first division (pool A) and second division (pool B) with promotion/relegation all the metro teams are in pool A and the regional teams are in pool B. The selectors only really look at pool A. In the past great performances by a regional player against the metro teams would have got the selectors attention but that opportunity isn’t there anymore. Over the years I’ve seen QLD and VIC Country teams finish above their metro counterparts on the ladder, I’ve seen ACT, QLD Country and NSW Country make semi finals and only a few years ago I remember Tasmania beat a VIC Metro team including Good, Barker-Daish, and MacLaren. If a regional player or team is given an opportunity they can sometimes achieve good things but those opportunities are dwindling.

Nike (the chance)
Has just tested (sparq test) half the nations elite players.
Are the results available anywhere?
Our own AIS and sate institute of sport test players all the time, are these results available.
This information would be invaluable to regional players.](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

To answer my own question and for those that are seeking the info
if you click on a player it gives you the stats.

NIKE chance finalists.