Anybody got any experiences and or suggestions/feedback on Sydney Academys please ?
Got a ok 12yr old and wanting to get him to some Academy trails during the off season.
Not sure if I post this in the correct area apoligies if so.

Talk to Aussiesrus about the Australian Soccer Academy. There are threads in this Performance section.

Disregard the trolling. ASA have placed a number of youth players overseas, with two gaining EPL contracts.

A long time the ago, Aussiesrus delineated a very sound training ground program. He has also thrown light on some of the ASA's training ground methodology. It seems very sound.







Edited by Decentric: 2/8/2012 12:07:37 PM

Thanks Decentric shall do.

:-k

Edited by Aussiesrus: 1/10/2012 03:05:46 AM

Thanks mate even though I sent you a pm was checking up the website before seeing your reply.
Will look into it not far from home as well makes it easier.

:-k

Edited by Aussiesrus: 1/10/2012 03:06:24 AM

Thanks mate - got reply from ASA sorting through whats suitable and will get the lad in thanks for the heads up.

The "Sydney Cup" ???

What is this Sydney Cup you speak of?

Who participated, exactly?



Edited by judy free: 12/8/2012 07:18:28 PM

Make sure you get the free set of steak knives with your subscription......I did. :lol:

And the source of this claim is bob basher and Aussierus, yeah?

:lol:

Decentric, I know this prince in Nigeria that wants to deposit $600 mil into a tassie bank account......interested?


Edited by judy free: 12/8/2012 07:28:33 PM

Remember when you outed that Basha guy from ASA when he claimed to play for Gombok before they even existed :lol: :lol: :lol:

From the ASA Website


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Archie Thompson got 13 in a World Cup Qualifier. :lol: :lol:

Seems legit \:d/

I accept that private 'academies' flourish here because of an absence of free, merit based academies attached to professional and semi pro clubs. But private coaching organisations do themselves no favours by exaggerating their claims. Inevitably, exaggerated claims raise doubts about other assertions, such as overseas qualifications or the academy's input into improving the players whom they cite as success stories.

The Sydney Youth Cup win is held up on the ASA website as evidence of ASA's quality. The tournament name certainly sounds impressive. But the Sydney Youth Cup website suggests a different story.  ASA entered two teams in the 15/16 age group. There were only three other teams.  In other words, ASA had 40 per cent of the teams in the comp.

ASA also claim one ex-ASA client is 'with the Manchester City shadow squad... training under the watchful eye of Jimmy Petruzzi'. (Petruzzi does not appear to be employed by MCFC and his many exaggerated/untruthful claims were exposed on the forum before). Interestingly, the term 'shadow squad' is not used by MCFC, whose u21s squad is known as the Reserves and whose u18s are known as the Academy. It is impossible to know if the ex-ASA client has any formal association with MCFC, although ASA's websites strongly implies he is. Other ASA players have trialled for MCFC but not been selected. Mere trialling is not evidence of excellence.

I cannot say ASA offers good, bad or indifferent coaching because there is no independent system assessing the relative merits of private coaching organisations. It is possible to say there is little objective evidence to support its claims of excellence. 

I have a lot of time for the coaching project run by Decentric and his co-coaches as it is free and he outlines clear principles on how to improve technique. He is in it for the love of the game. But profit driven coaching organisations are in it for the money.

This is not an attack on ASA per se. Our national coaching system is flawed and is, hopefully, at the start of a long process where children get elite coaching on merit. Until then, check very closely the claims of your local private coaching organisations. 

if only decentric had put his hand up and admitted to the kids/parents that he possesses no experience whatsoever, then I might be a little more encouraging of his pursuits. But like basher et al he suffers from delusions of grandeur, using smoke, mirrors and blantant bullshit to 'sell' himself to a naive public. Unforgiveable, from any angle.

Edited by judy free: 15/8/2012 07:31:48 AM

That's the thing......left unchallenged these spivs will continue to flourish.

There's a lotta dopey naive parents out there who know no better.

"holds record for most goals in one game" FFS :lol:

Judy Free, you think if you tell the same lies/trolls often enough people will believe them.

I must have about 13 years experience now having coached players from aged 8 - 30 of both genders. I also have up to date FFA qualifications including starting the FFA C Licence.

Trends change in football all the time. There are a small number of people outside the loop who throw a lot of mud, but they are becoming an irrelevance.

They are an irrelevance through ignorance. Ring any bells?

You raise some good points , Distantfan.

I think Aussiesrus posted some articles about the selection of some ASA players for various overseas academies.

Aussiesrus also posted some sound training ground practice, some time ago. Given his significant playing credentials, national rep,and his sound training ground practice, what does he have to gain by promoting ASA?
I've probably had more private discussions with Aussie, but his motives for supporting ASA are essentially good.

There are some good developments in FFA, but it is not perfect. Good private academies/ soccer schools, even paying ones, have a role in football. Even FFA staff coaches will begrudgingly admit this, if posed the right questions.

To be fair to Aussie, he has also cast aspersions on dodgy academies.

Your coaching, in sanctioned tassie association competition, is limited to one short season, coaching an U11's girl's team no less. Everything else was either in the school playground or as an orange peeler in some micky mouse 5 a side comp.

Now please correct me if I am wrong, old boy. You owe it to your legion of three fans here.


Edited by judy free: 15/8/2012 05:04:16 PM

An aussie rep (socceroo?) that is incapable of coaching his own kid? :lol:



Money?

After all, he, basher and big punch in the air Jimmy Pastrami are joined at the hip.

Chips keeping the bastards honest =d>

Edited by electroschokk: 15/8/2012 06:13:09 PM

Troll.](*,)

All seasons have been as assistant or head coach or TD of teams in sanctioned FFA competitions from the age of under 8 upwards.

I've spent months and months in training courses. Currently I'm in a FFA specific target group for selected coaches to train players at a higher level than club training. I work with the state SAP trainer on a fortnightly basis designing training modules.

Now if your coaching history is scrutinized, because you are keen to discredit others, you have passed no FFA accredited courses in the last 14 years or so.
You have sufferered the ignominy of failing a refresher FFA Youth Licence - a fairly fundamental community coaching course that many people who read this board have passed. So rather than deconstruct training ground methodology that has been posted on this forum, why do you persist to launch personal attacks , when you could demonstrate knowledge by deconstructing football methodology?

My guess is you have been deemed a coach incapable of coaching in a different mode from the past, unable and unwilling to coach in a way to produce contemporary footballers at any level beyond very basic suburban junior coaching.

You are probably very bitter about this. This is why you live a useless existence trolling on the Internet.

A lot of kids do not like being coached by parents in anything.

It is not a question of capability.

FFS. :oops:

You know this is a million miles from the truth.....why do you say these things?

One season, with an U11's girls team, is the sum total of your real world experience.

From the mailroom to the boardroom in 3 picoseconds......impressive.

Decentric

Like you I do not know why Aussiesrus continues to promote ASA on this forum, but as he does I think it is reasonable to check the claims of ASA itself.

For me the purpose of this forum has been to learn about how to improve our coaching through shared ideas. It is not a noticeboard for private organisations, whose worth is unproven. Seeing how the private coaching clinics in my own area operate I have become deeply sceptical about the qualifications and quality of training of many of them. The most popular clinic in my immediate area has done a tremendous job marketing itself to parents who seem unaware that the coaches have taken no coaching qualifications. (The coaches told a presentation I attended that they didn't need qualifications as they had played semi-pro).

ASA is not in my area and I only checked its credentials because they keep being mentioned on this forum as a quality football educator. The ASA website reveals the two main coaches claim football coaching qualifications from overseas. It is not possible to be certain what the qualifications equate to internationally. They do not claim to have the equivalent of the Asia 'C' licence, the lowest professional coaching qualification. It appears likely their qualifications are equivalent to a FFA community certificate.

If you want to make your money from providing coaching to children surely the minimum you should do is try to get professional coaching qualifications.

In ASA's case they do not help themselves by talking up minimal achievements eg getting people trials at clubs and winning tiny tournaments. If they have been instrumental in the success of players' careers then where are the personal testimonies of these successful players. If they have placed anyone in the academy of an EPL club then the ASA should state clearly which professional club has signed the player and at what level of the club's development structure.

Again, my concern is not ASA - it is just one of many private clinics trying to convince parents their child could be a professional footballer - it is the system that allows private clinics to flourish without any established standards by which to measure their coaching service.

:-k

Edited by Aussiesrus: 1/10/2012 03:07:12 AM

:lol:

I know Bruno, champ.

Nice bloke, so no plans of using him as cannon fodder in all this bollox.

He's a part time GK coach, in very little demand.

Have you read this?

http://rydelmare-fc.blogspot.com.au/2011/08/bruno-quits-as-rydalmere-coach.html

Hilarious, innit?

The language used by the author is brilliant - I dunno how this news was ever missed by the Sunday papers.




Edited by judy free: 16/8/2012 11:11:47 AM

:-k

Edited by Aussiesrus: 1/10/2012 03:07:48 AM

Yep, the classic smoke and mirrors I refered to earlier.

A five team tourney, fought out between suburban park players.

A quick visit to the web site indicated that ASA's celebrated EPL export even pulled on the boots.

Aussie? :d

Point is, this is all at pub/park level i.e. a million miles from elite soccer.

A few great lines from that Rydalmere blog:

"Former international :lol: and club veteran Basha will replace Bruno for the rest of the season."

“Please respect my right to privacy at this time"

“Bruno has been great for our Club over a 5 year period across a number of roles, from ball boy :lol: to head coach"

Absolutely hilarious.

:-k

Edited by Aussiesrus: 1/10/2012 03:08:09 AM

Trolls? Why because someone on Football Anarchy made a thread exposing ASA for what it really is and you threatened to sue the forum?

Looking at your website you guys are the ones trolling :lol:

You are the one who pretended to play for Gombok before they even existed :lol:

You are the one who claimed to set a record 12 goals in a football match although the record is 13. If you are going make a claim like that, you need to be more expansive. Archie Thompson got 13 in a World Cup Qualifier. Where did you score 12, in the Under 11's?

And how does that make you a top coach anyway? I guess you put that in the try and beef up a fairly ordinary playing record otherwise?

What about this?



ffs :lol: :lol:



Never heard of him, so I wonder when his "peek" was, when he was supposedly one of the best midfielders in the country.

Great stuff mate, keep calling us trolls =d> =d>