Edited by paladisious: 9/8/2012 08:06:23 AM

Well they've lost 2 Supreme Court cases against clubs the past 3 years and have an overbloated beauracracy so how the fuck do they to pay for this giant mess, fines, fines and more fines.
Clubs are held liable if fans swear at a ref nowdays, so I can just rock up to a rivals game, swear my gob off and that club get points deducted and heavily fined. Happened to Dandy Thunder last year and screwed their season up. Junior clubs get fined if a player gets sent off ffs. As if junior clubs are rolling in cash. FFV get go hang themselves.

Would be a dream if it felt like the FFV was working with the clubs rather than against them. It's a bit scary when one of their biggest income sources is fines.

Edited by krisskrash: 8/8/2012 08:28:18 PM

Rendell and the FFV tried shoving the summer zonal league crap down clubs throats a few years ago. Senior clubs didn't want a bar of it and the junior summer zonal comps have been pretty much a disaster. They are trying again to screw over traditional/community clubs under this new guise. The current system isn't perfect but why the fuck completely dismantle it. Any decent junior under any structure will end up at MV or MH so why waste time and money basically re-inventing the wheel.
Soccer in regional Victoria is mostly social and hasn't the money and resources to be in any elite comp. AFL dominates in these areas.
Talented players from there will also filter through the system to bigger and better things.
This is just another giant waste of money by those rascist ego maniacs at the FFV. Instead of working with current clubs to maximise resources and to better the game they are actively working to run them into the ground with fairyland type proposals. They are hopeless clowns at FFV land.

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Edited by krisskrash: 8/8/2012 07:54:51 PM

These things can be done now with out the changes.

I'm looking at this as both a fan of a VPL team, and a coach of a community club. The changes that they are thinking about for both will not make me happy at all. Don't like the restructure of the provisional leagues that are proposed, a lot of the rivalries in these leagues will be lost.

Also don't like the idea of regional teams being forced into the top level, if they are good enough, they will work their way up there, like Ballarat and Morwell are fighting for at the moment in State 2, and North Geelong are in State 1. We have this real obsession at the moment with regional football, while us that are based in the central area suffer at the hands of council's with minimal support from the FFV. I coach a team that are based in central area. Yet we have to play all our games out in the South East about a 30-40 min drive from where we train due to council's decisions, we tried to appeal to the FFV for help, yet there is nothing they will do to assist us.

Also look at the synthetic pitches that were made at Albert Park, great pitches in better condition than the ones the FFV own at the State Football Centre. But can't be used for games at all, due to the FFV not really being involved in the planning process and touch rugby, and ultimate frisbee's line markings taking precedence over the football lines.

Edited by krisskrash: 8/8/2012 07:55:46 PM

Not sure about regional teams being enforced. Maybe get one quality team from geelong, ballarat and bendigo possibly gippsland. But its even been a while since Geelong had a team in the VPL.

Hope they dont split it east/west rather have two separate divisions being state wide but money will be the key here. Also hope that both HAL reserve teams are kept out of VPL even if they win the league under it. Kinda takes away from the idea of a premier state comp.

Pro/rel is a silly thing not to keep hope that they include it or at least include it later after a couple of seasons.

The Devil's in the detail.

Whats with the negativity, Rendell said they are waiting for feedback before they enter the next stage of development. Am I the only one excited about the developments in the structure of football nation-wide? Cannot wait for the FFA Cup and State League finals games to be shown on FTA, something thats looks closer then ever.

If they can find $500K per year all good.

They would have beeen better off having an Elite Youth Licence Revised every 5 years until they are ready to have Senior teams.

Im not a fan either, its turning senior soccer leagues into junior leagues all that will be heard at these games is crickets as no one will be going. Sad but this is the end of soccer in our country because fairies are running it.

Not a fan at all.

Seems like it's going to turn the top division in this state into basically a youth league. Though I do agree with the point about limiting foreign players. I can see state 1 becoming better quality than the rebranded VPL, with a lot of the over 25 year old players headed there, and a lot of under the table payments.

Plus cutting out promotion and relegation is a bit of a joke. The idea that any club in this state could end up in the top division one day is something magic about our game, something we should keep.

Love the idea of bringing in regional teams.

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