2012/13 Membership numbers thread


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gurudave wrote:
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if i were in charge of brisbane roar i'd be pushing for a suncorp-year-pass so you get your broncos fans & roar fans on season passes all year round. could do some serious damage with them, i reckon.


Suncorp Stadium already has 5039 seats allocated for yearly stadium membership. These are SOLD OUT.

http://www.suncorpstadium.com.au/Memberships/Membership_Packages.aspx


I suppose the question is, how many people are using them to see the Roar? Are people using them to just see Broncos and Reds? Similar question would need to asked of Allianz membership where we have Waratahs, Roosters, and SFC.
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pv4 wrote:
if i were in charge of brisbane roar i'd be pushing for a suncorp-year-pass so you get your broncos fans & roar fans on season passes all year round. could do some serious damage with them, i reckon.


Suncorp Stadium already has 5039 seats allocated for yearly stadium membership. These are SOLD OUT.

http://www.suncorpstadium.com.au/Memberships/Membership_Packages.aspx
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Imagine if you can get a membership for all the codes in your city, it would be mutually beneficial for every league.

Melbourne football membership: Your choice of MH/MV + your choice of AFL + Storm + Rebels. Access to GA of all home games. I'd buy that.
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Those numbers for the Roar are clearly false. We had around 3800 members last season, we've broken through the 5000 mark comfortably at this stage.

And pv4, there's Suncorp Stadium memberships available. Probably around 1000-2000 of them are at every game, and aren't counted in the official membership tally. Good value if you like both rugby codes and football, or even just two of them.
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Whats Sydney's like today?
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Brisbane would probably have a higher take up of memberships if they had a smaller stadium
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if i were in charge of brisbane roar i'd be pushing for a suncorp-year-pass so you get your broncos fans & roar fans on season passes all year round. could do some serious damage with them, i reckon.
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killua wrote:
Roar_Brisbane wrote:
tjwhalan wrote:
tbitm wrote:
Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9008 (September 17th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th)


Are these numbers confirmed?
If so what more do the Brisbane public want, or would they prefer to just goto one game a year if Roar make the Grand Final.

Still unofficial for the Roar. I'm not sure why you feel the need to attack our crowd figures considering we average the 2nd highest in the comp.


Since the numbers are unofficial it has to be taken with a grain of salt, but they are a worry largely because Brisbane should be getting around the second highest in the league, but look no where near it despite winning the grand final for the past two seasons, and a shift towards a membership culture in QLD in other football codes.

I personally won't criticise the numbers until the season starts and we have a better idea of the actual membership count.


Why should Brisbane be getting the second highest memberships? They play in a state where membership is not part of the tradition for sport. Its only since the Lions rocked up that it was introduced. It is taking hold though. The Broncos actually got membership above 50% of average attendance in the last two seasons and The Reds have had a 400% increase in that time too.
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These stats are unofficial so take what I say with a grain of salt, but premierships wont grow a fanbase alone. All clubs need to engage the local community.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:
tjwhalan wrote:
tbitm wrote:
Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9008 (September 17th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th)


Are these numbers confirmed?
If so what more do the Brisbane public want, or would they prefer to just goto one game a year if Roar make the Grand Final.

Still unofficial for the Roar. I'm not sure why you feel the need to attack our crowd figures considering we average the 2nd highest in the comp.


Since the numbers are unofficial it has to be taken with a grain of salt, but they are a worry largely because Brisbane should be getting around the second highest in the league, but look no where near it despite winning the grand final for the past two seasons, and a shift towards a membership culture in QLD in other football codes.

I personally won't criticise the numbers until the season starts and we have a better idea of the actual membership count.
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girtXc wrote:
As per my previous post Melbourne Victory were at 15,300 late last week


Thanks, i really should read other peoples posts. btw I've now fixed it

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As per my previous post Melbourne Victory were at 15,300 late last week
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tjwhalan wrote:
tbitm wrote:
Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9008 (September 17th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th)


Are these numbers confirmed?
If so what more do the Brisbane public want, or would they prefer to just goto one game a year if Roar make the Grand Final.

Still unofficial for the Roar. I'm not sure why you feel the need to attack our crowd figures considering we average the 2nd highest in the comp.
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tbitm wrote:
Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9008 (September 17th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th)


Are these numbers confirmed?
If so what more do the Brisbane public want, or would they prefer to just goto one game a year if Roar make the Grand Final.
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Are Sydney still doing that deal where kids under 12 get a free membership if they play in a team or something along the lines of that?
This season would be the perfect time to hook them in with the rest of their families.
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And brisbane were aiming for 10k:S
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Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9008 (September 17th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15300 (Septmber 12th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th)

Edited by tbitm: 18/9/2012 02:00:31 AM
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Melbourne Victory Update

Melbourne Victory are delighted to have already welcomed 15,300 members for 2012/13, with 4 weeks to go before the Melbourne Derby takes centre stage. Memberships for reserved seating in the South End at AAMI Park have already sold out! Good seats still remain in Premium A, B and C, but act quickly.

Melbourne Victory membership packs have commenced mailing and they are lodged in batches. Please be patient if your friend or family member receive their pack before you, as all packs will arrive on or before September 27, 2012.

Melbourne Victory memberships will be available to purchase at the MVFC Intra-Club match on September 23.

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Also they have changed it so they are ticketed members and financial members, you can be both or one or t'other.

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pv4 wrote:
General Ashnak wrote:
dublin_101 wrote:
Erebus wrote:
aufc_ole wrote:
How many members did Heart have in their first season?

This is what I want to know.

Heart, Fury and Gold Coast.

I want to know how many members they had in their first years.


The Heart had something like 4,500 from what I know....but once again, withouth anyone publishing their numbers, you will never know for sure. The one thing which also interests me is the break down of eg Adult Memberships to children...eg I just did a family membership which is 2 Adults and includes 4 kids (even if you don't have 4 kids under 11 or so)....so that counts as 6.

They should just publish revenue earned from Memberships, Corporate boxes, etc...we are entitled to this knowledge as we are paying members!

The only club with actual members is AUFC, we have an AGM on the 10th of October.


what is the difference for aufc between member & season ticket holder - privilege-wise as well as $ investment? what do you pay extra, and what do you actually get?

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/adelaideunited/seasontickets
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General Ashnak wrote:
dublin_101 wrote:
Erebus wrote:
aufc_ole wrote:
How many members did Heart have in their first season?

This is what I want to know.

Heart, Fury and Gold Coast.

I want to know how many members they had in their first years.


The Heart had something like 4,500 from what I know....but once again, withouth anyone publishing their numbers, you will never know for sure. The one thing which also interests me is the break down of eg Adult Memberships to children...eg I just did a family membership which is 2 Adults and includes 4 kids (even if you don't have 4 kids under 11 or so)....so that counts as 6.

They should just publish revenue earned from Memberships, Corporate boxes, etc...we are entitled to this knowledge as we are paying members!

The only club with actual members is AUFC, we have an AGM on the 10th of October.


what is the difference for aufc between member & season ticket holder - privilege-wise as well as $ investment? what do you pay extra, and what do you actually get?
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Adrian72 wrote:


Year 1 was 5,300 I believe. Then 6,700 last year. But I've wondered as well whether a family membership counts as 1 or 6?


it would definitely count as 6...otherwise we'd be a well off club. last year a whole heap of kids memberships were given away for free (or for a very low price) to all green gully juniors from memory..so that boosted numbers as well..

i suppose the A League clubs are becoming like AFL clubs with spitting out all of this crap about so called member numbers, i never believe any of them!
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dublin_101 wrote:
Erebus wrote:
aufc_ole wrote:
How many members did Heart have in their first season?

This is what I want to know.

Heart, Fury and Gold Coast.

I want to know how many members they had in their first years.


The Heart had something like 4,500 from what I know....but once again, withouth anyone publishing their numbers, you will never know for sure. The one thing which also interests me is the break down of eg Adult Memberships to children...eg I just did a family membership which is 2 Adults and includes 4 kids (even if you don't have 4 kids under 11 or so)....so that counts as 6.

They should just publish revenue earned from Memberships, Corporate boxes, etc...we are entitled to this knowledge as we are paying members!

The only club with actual members is AUFC, we have an AGM on the 10th of October.

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deluka wrote:

I think it's fair to say that 9,000 is not a realistic goal, if we have a good start to the season (so that more people buy these 3 game memberships), particularly at home...i wouldn't expect more than 7,200 if the figure of 6,500 is correct


I agree. Anything above 7,000 would be fine in my opinion as it still means growth from year to year. 9,000 was always an ambitious target.
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dublin_101 wrote:
Erebus wrote:
aufc_ole wrote:
How many members did Heart have in their first season?

This is what I want to know.

Heart, Fury and Gold Coast.

I want to know how many members they had in their first years.


The Heart had something like 4,500 from what I know....but once again, withouth anyone publishing their numbers, you will never know for sure. The one thing which also interests me is the break down of eg Adult Memberships to children...eg I just did a family membership which is 2 Adults and includes 4 kids (even if you don't have 4 kids under 11 or so)....so that counts as 6.

They should just publish revenue earned from Memberships, Corporate boxes, etc...we are entitled to this knowledge as we are paying members!


Year 1 was 5,300 I believe. Then 6,700 last year. But I've wondered as well whether a family membership counts as 1 or 6?
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dublin_101 wrote:
just renewed my family Heart membership and asked what the latest figures were like...the guy said he hadn't checked for a couple of days but it was around 4,000 then....who knows, i'm a little worried to be honest. We were hoping for an increase this year and its looking like we'll be lucky to match last year.

Also, why haven't Heart published the financial report for the last year??


I'm not sure how you would get financial reports from clubs. They're all privately owned, so there's no obligation to provide members with financial reports - unlike actual member owned clubs like AFL clubs. I'm sure it's been discussed before, but it's probably more accurate to say that in the A League, we're season ticket holders rather than members.

I agree though. 4,000 sounds a bit disappointing at this stage. We should be looking at 6,000+ by Round 1. During the season, they will release things like 5 game memberships which might then help push the final numbers up if we're doing well on the pitch.

But betting agencies and even things like 442's season predictions have us bottom two or three in the league at the moment. I'm bemused by all that because I think we've got a stronger squad than last year. But maybe we're fighting a general feeling that we might struggle this season.
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dublin_101 wrote:
i'm a little worried to be honest. We were hoping for an increase this year and its looking like we'll be lucky to match last year.


Last year around mid december (before the christmas derby) Melbourne Heart started selling three game memberships, it wouldn't surprise me if they were added to last year's membership count...so with that in mind, i very much doubt that our total membership count (of last season) was at 6,500 for the start of or a few weeks in to the season

I think it's fair to say that 9,000 is not a realistic goal, if we have a good start to the season (so that more people buy these 3 game memberships), particularly at home...i wouldn't expect more than 7,200 if the figure of 6,500 is correct
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Erebus wrote:
aufc_ole wrote:
How many members did Heart have in their first season?

This is what I want to know.

Heart, Fury and Gold Coast.

I want to know how many members they had in their first years.


The Heart had something like 4,500 from what I know....but once again, withouth anyone publishing their numbers, you will never know for sure. The one thing which also interests me is the break down of eg Adult Memberships to children...eg I just did a family membership which is 2 Adults and includes 4 kids (even if you don't have 4 kids under 11 or so)....so that counts as 6.

They should just publish revenue earned from Memberships, Corporate boxes, etc...we are entitled to this knowledge as we are paying members!
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aufc_ole wrote:
How many members did Heart have in their first season?


Pretty sure Heart had around 5k members first season.
But the Melbourne sports market has a huge membership culture.
Not so in Sydney, FC has never had over 7k members, so for WS, if they can get 3k or more first year, that's great.
Their rivalry will build on from there and that'll help both clubs grow.


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