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Its been great to see the see the newcastle/victory/wanderers membership threads but since i don't think anyone want to have 10 different threads i just thought I'd make one for you to post the most recent numbers of any club.
The current numbers i have gathered are...
Adelaide 2000
Brisbane ?
Central Coast 2300
Heart 3500
Newcastle 8000
Perth 5000 (all renewals. Membership to public begins 20th August)
Sydney ?
Victory 12174
Wellington ?
West Sydney 1400
Each teams target
Adelaide 7000 (estimate)
Brisbane 10000
Central Coast 5000
Heart 9000
Newcastle 11000
Perth ?
Sydney 7000
Victory 22000
Wellington 4000
West Sydney 7000
2011/12 Season numbers
Adelaide 8000
Brisbane 4459
Central Coast 3600
Heart 6500
Newcastle 10500
Perth ?
Sydney 7000
Victory 18767
Wellington ?
Feel free to give me any new info or info i messed so i can update, but this is all i could find at the moment.
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I imagine Adelaide's target will be around 7k season ticket holders and about 1k financial membership holders
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tbitm
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davidbloop wrote:I imagine Adelaide's target will be around 7k season ticket holders and about 1k financial membership holders from what I've read adelaide are expecting less members than last year due to a poor season.
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Good job collating all the in
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tbitm wrote:
The current numbers i have gathered are...
Sydney ?
Each teams target
Sydney 7000
2011/12 Season numbers
Sydney 7000
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jerks website has us at 7885 now - massive 45members jump since last update. we need a marquee signing to really push us to past 11k.
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tbitm wrote:
Each teams target
Brisbane 5800
Where did you get this number? This is our target from the Roar's onegoal website.
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tbitm
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:tbitm wrote:
Each teams target
Brisbane 5800
Where did you get this number? This is our target from the Roar's onegoal website. i saw they wanted a 30% increase from last year in members and an average attendance of 15,000 http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/a-league-takes-steps-to-draw-bigger-memberships-crowd-figures-start-official-supporters-clubs/story-e6frf4gl-1226447400755Edited by tbitm: 10/8/2012 01:51:11 PM
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Would guess MV's target is to hit the membership cap of 18k.
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We are apparently over 2000 as of Wednesday night.
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Well I'd prefer to trust what the club has posted on one of it's websites.
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tbitm wrote:davidbloop wrote:I imagine Adelaide's target will be around 7k season ticket holders and about 1k financial membership holders from what I've read adelaide are expecting less members than last year due to a poor season. That is lower than last season, we did very well last season and had almost 8k members from 2nd hand memory.
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Geez Sydney is ambitious.
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General Ashnak wrote:tbitm wrote:davidbloop wrote:I imagine Adelaide's target will be around 7k season ticket holders and about 1k financial membership holders from what I've read adelaide are expecting less members than last year due to a poor season. That is lower than last season, we did very well last season and had almost 8k members from 2nd hand memory. This thread has been somewhat of a revelation....I had no idea our memberships reached those sorts of numbers. That's a good 80% of the crowd are all members allowing for no shows etc Did this get revealed at one of those meetings I never attended? I remember us all wondering only last season what our numbers were and why the club didn't publicise them...
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:Geez Sydney is ambitious. I like how Sydney have set themselves an achievable goal which is to retain the same numbers as last year even with west sydney taking fans and no more effective Emerton hype to start the season. At least Sydney will be able to brag when they cross their target which i believe they will whereas clubs like Brisbane and Heart who most likely won't and central coast and west sydney who i believe probably won't although will get close. These clubs are building themselves up for disappointment when theres nothing wrong with achieving a smaller goal to brag about when the end result is the same number of members anyway.
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tbitm wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:Geez Sydney is ambitious. I like how Sydney have set themselves an achievable goal which is to retain the same numbers as last year even with west sydney taking fans and no more effective Emerton hype to start the season. At least Sydney will be able to brag when they cross their target which i believe they will whereas clubs like Brisbane and Heart who most likely won't and central coast and west sydney who i believe probably won't although will get close. These clubs are building themselves up for disappointment when theres nothing wrong with achieving a smaller goal to brag about when the end result is the same number of members anyway. Nothing wrong with being ambitious. I would prefer my club to attempt to reach a high level then rest on their laurels.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:tbitm wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:Geez Sydney is ambitious. I like how Sydney have set themselves an achievable goal which is to retain the same numbers as last year even with west sydney taking fans and no more effective Emerton hype to start the season. At least Sydney will be able to brag when they cross their target which i believe they will whereas clubs like Brisbane and Heart who most likely won't and central coast and west sydney who i believe probably won't although will get close. These clubs are building themselves up for disappointment when theres nothing wrong with achieving a smaller goal to brag about when the end result is the same number of members anyway. Nothing wrong with being ambitious. I would prefer my club to attempt to reach a high level then rest on their laurels. I don't think I've read anything this season about a target member number for Sydney just that they believe that they are on target to at least reach the same number as last year.
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aussie pride wrote:http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/a-league-takes-steps-to-draw-bigger-memberships-crowd-figures-start-official-supporters-clubs/story-e6frf4gl-1226447400755
A great piece by Simon Hill
Its got a few membership numbers in there yeah a good article, positive news is always great to read.
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Davide82 wrote:General Ashnak wrote:tbitm wrote:davidbloop wrote:I imagine Adelaide's target will be around 7k season ticket holders and about 1k financial membership holders from what I've read adelaide are expecting less members than last year due to a poor season. That is lower than last season, we did very well last season and had almost 8k members from 2nd hand memory. This thread has been somewhat of a revelation....I had no idea our memberships reached those sorts of numbers. That's a good 80% of the crowd are all members allowing for no shows etc Did this get revealed at one of those meetings I never attended? I remember us all wondering only last season what our numbers were and why the club didn't publicise them... From the Financial Members meeting from monday 19th december 2011 glenn Elliot reported that we had around 5,500 standard members and over 700 financial members. Bare in mind they had just sacked Rini and appointed Kossie at this time so wondering if this increase takes into account members who only bought halfway through the season. I still think if the SA football community first and foremost and then the greater Adelaide/South Australian were engage this club should have a base over 10,000
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Timmo wrote:Davide82 wrote:General Ashnak wrote:tbitm wrote:davidbloop wrote:I imagine Adelaide's target will be around 7k season ticket holders and about 1k financial membership holders from what I've read adelaide are expecting less members than last year due to a poor season. That is lower than last season, we did very well last season and had almost 8k members from 2nd hand memory. This thread has been somewhat of a revelation....I had no idea our memberships reached those sorts of numbers. That's a good 80% of the crowd are all members allowing for no shows etc Did this get revealed at one of those meetings I never attended? I remember us all wondering only last season what our numbers were and why the club didn't publicise them... From the Financial Members meeting from monday 19th december 2011 glenn Elliot reported that we had around 5,500 standard members and over 700 financial members. Bare in mind they had just sacked Rini and appointed Kossie at this time so wondering if this increase takes into account members who only bought halfway through the season. I still think if the SA football community first and foremost and then the greater Adelaide/South Australian were engage this club should have a base over 10,000 ~6000 season ticket holders last season was reported in the Advertiser, wasn't it? I have no idea where you guys are getting this 8k figure from.
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tbitm wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:Geez Sydney is ambitious. I like how Sydney have set themselves an achievable goal which is to retain the same numbers as last year even with west sydney taking fans and no more effective Emerton hype to start the season. At least Sydney will be able to brag when they cross their target which i believe they will whereas clubs like Brisbane and Heart who most likely won't and central coast and west sydney who i believe probably won't although will get close. These clubs are building themselves up for disappointment when theres nothing wrong with achieving a smaller goal to brag about when the end result is the same number of members anyway. if sydney brag that they got 7k members imma lol so hard. where's your ambition ffs!?!
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pv4 wrote:if sydney brag that they got 7k members imma lol so hard.
where's your ambition ffs!?! Nothing wrong with aiming low. Last season we compared our crowds and TV ratings against season 6.
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SpawningSalmon wrote:Timmo wrote:Davide82 wrote:General Ashnak wrote:tbitm wrote:davidbloop wrote:I imagine Adelaide's target will be around 7k season ticket holders and about 1k financial membership holders from what I've read adelaide are expecting less members than last year due to a poor season. That is lower than last season, we did very well last season and had almost 8k members from 2nd hand memory. This thread has been somewhat of a revelation....I had no idea our memberships reached those sorts of numbers. That's a good 80% of the crowd are all members allowing for no shows etc Did this get revealed at one of those meetings I never attended? I remember us all wondering only last season what our numbers were and why the club didn't publicise them... From the Financial Members meeting from monday 19th december 2011 glenn Elliot reported that we had around 5,500 standard members and over 700 financial members. Bare in mind they had just sacked Rini and appointed Kossie at this time so wondering if this increase takes into account members who only bought halfway through the season. I still think if the SA football community first and foremost and then the greater Adelaide/South Australian were engage this club should have a base over 10,000 ~6000 season ticket holders last season was reported in the Advertiser, wasn't it? I have no idea where you guys are getting this 8k figure from. Pretty sure it was about 5-6k as well, but that seemed more like an estimate from Elliot at the time as well. Matt Rossi should have given us an exact number, with him being the membership and ticketing officer and all.
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Pretty sure our core support is about 5-8k(turn up rain hail or shine), but our financial member number is below 5k. To put that into perspective My SANFL team has about 3k members and we receive a crap load more media than Norwood do.
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tbitm
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From the Newcastle Jets twitter Quote:Jets have reached 8,000 Members! Join today to get your Membership Pack in time for Members exclusive launch on Sep 15. http://bit.ly/N5eyFB
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Not too confident of the Roar's push for membership. Don't get that fuzzy feeling. Meanwhile the Brisbane Broncos are aiming at 37,000.
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The current numbers i have gathered are...
Adelaide 2000
Brisbane ?
Central Coast 2300
Heart 3500
Newcastle 8000
Perth 5000 (all renewals. Membership to public begins 20th August)
Sydney ?
Victory 12174
Wellington ?
West Sydney 1400
Each teams target
Adelaide 7000 (estimate)
Brisbane 10000
Central Coast 5000
Heart 9000
Newcastle 11000
Perth ?
Sydney 7000
Victory 22000
Wellington 4000
West Sydney 7000
2011/12 Season numbers
Adelaide 8000
Brisbane 4459
Central Coast 3600
Heart 6500
Newcastle 10500
Perth ?
Sydney 7000
Victory 18767
Wellington ?
Feel free to give me any new info or info i messed so i can update, but this is all i could find at the moment.
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Victory up to 13,181
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tbitm wrote:Victory up to 13,181 Bluebird may be able to inform us how that figure corresponds with last year
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tbitm wrote:The current numbers i have gathered are...
2011/12 Season numbers
Adelaide 8000
Feel free to give me any new info or info i messed so i can update, but this is all i could find at the moment. Sauce?
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SpawningSalmon wrote:tbitm wrote:The current numbers i have gathered are...
2011/12 Season numbers
Adelaide 8000
Feel free to give me any new info or info i messed so i can update, but this is all i could find at the moment. Sauce? Quote:General Ashnak wrote:
That is lower than last season, we did very well last season and had almost 8k members from 2nd hand memory. this guy...... looking back on it not the best of sources.
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I'm pretty sure it would have been closer to 6000.
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WS 400
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Assuming the article was correct, 400 were sold which was a 25% increase on the total thus they have sold 2000 in total.
Doesn't seem quite right to be though because 2 and a half weeks ago we were told they were getting up towards 2000. Which selling 400 in 2 days doesn't seem accurate then.
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macktheknife wrote:Assuming the article was correct, 400 were sold which was a 25% increase on the total thus they have sold 2000 in total.
Doesn't seem quite right to be though because 2 and a half weeks ago we were told they were getting up towards 2000. Which selling 400 in 2 days doesn't seem accurate then. Ohhh fuck my bad, feel like a idiot>.<
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western sydney wanderers are going to have a massive increase in memberships from last season
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Swarth wrote:western sydney wanderers are going to have a massive increase in memberships from last season You're hilarious, did you think of that yourself? Compared to the team they are 'replacing' GCU, I am expecting the attendance/membership-ST KPI to get a significant boost this year. Keep trying News Limited, your dirty tricks campaign isn't going to work.
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Swarth wrote:western sydney wanderers are going to have a massive increase in memberships from last season very true
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i am glad someone agrees with me:d i did think of it myself it was the proudest moment of my life so far the entire football community has done well to combat some ridiculous articles recently, if we got worse than GGU i think football has no hope :p
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Haven't got any numbers, but have heard there's a huge new member increase at the Roar - people that have never been members before that are hopping on board. Good sign if true.
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Newcastle up to 8130, they seemed like they were gong to easily pass their 11000 goal and now they are only getting 10 memberships a day. What happened to them?
Also I keep checking twitter and fb but can't find anything on membership numbers on any club other than Newcastle and Victory, incase i missed something on fb or twitter or maybe even an article post it in this thread with a source.
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Heart up to 3650, hope we can get up past 6000 before the season starts
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tbitm wrote:Heart up to 3650, hope we can get up past 6000 before the season starts well you have added 150 in 2 weeks, think you may struggle to get another 2000 odd in 5 weeks
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tbitm wrote:Newcastle up to 8130, they seemed like they were gong to easily pass their 11000 goal and now they are only getting 10 memberships a day. What happened to them?
Also I keep checking twitter and fb but can't find anything on membership numbers on any club other than Newcastle and Victory, incase i missed something on fb or twitter or maybe even an article post it in this thread with a source. I'd say that existing members rushed it to lock in their previous years seating, which we had to do before the end of July. Most of the prime seats in centre field are taken and people won't want to lose them. A couple of thousand members failed to renew or didn't love their seats enough to renew before the exclusivity period ended. There may be a small rush before the season starts but the 11,000 target will be a stretch. There has really been nothing exciting to attract the casual person to invest in a membership this pre-season. Last year they promised the world and the Jets failed to deliver. This year they haven't promised anything and haven't invested in quality experienced players so a drop in memberships would not be surprising. The signing of a quality striker will be needed to change people's minds. Edited by Ecce: 30/8/2012 05:09:14 PM
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scottywong wrote:tbitm wrote:Heart up to 3650, hope we can get up past 6000 before the season starts well you have added 150 in 2 weeks, think you may struggle to get another 2000 odd in 5 weeks Now that you point that out I'm thinking the number was rounded up to the nearest "500" in the article I used since they only announced only a couple days earlier we were on 3300, and if we added 200 in 2 days, how did we only add 150 in two weeks? So I'm gonna guess it more like 350 in 2 weeks. nonetheless I get your point, and if i am right, at this rate we should only get around 4,500. Hopefully a bit more buzz around the heart can be created before the season starts and hopefully we can get close to 5000.
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Are we down on last years memberships all across the board?
Edited by glory recruit: 30/8/2012 06:46:17 PM
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Glory Recruit wrote:Are we down on last years memberships all across the board?
Edited by glory recruit: 30/8/2012 06:46:17 PM The Foxsports article a couple of weeks ago said we were up compared to that stage the previous season.
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We as in the whole league?
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vanbasten88 wrote:We as in the whole league? Ya
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As much as people don't want to admit it, IMO both the Melbourne clubs memberships will suffer purely because of the fact that Harry Kewell is not there.
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bennyblanco wrote:As much as people don't want to admit it, IMO both the Melbourne clubs memberships will suffer purely because of the fact that Harry Kewell is not there. And even bigger-the King who was a long term crowd fave.
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Sydney apparently had an increase of 15% on memberships today.
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chillbilly wrote:Sydney apparently had an increase of 15% on memberships today. On SBS World News Australia, Mike Tomalaris reported season tickets sales jumped from 50 to 500. Were they really that low yesterday? How long have they been out for? Or are Sydney FC members notoriously late when renewing memberships?
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SpawningSalmon wrote:chillbilly wrote:Sydney apparently had an increase of 15% on memberships today. On SBS World News Australia, Mike Tomalaris reported season tickets sales jumped from 50 to 500. Were they really that low yesterday? How long have they been out for? Or are Sydney FC members notoriously late when renewing memberships? That doesn't sound right.
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SpawningSalmon wrote:chillbilly wrote:Sydney apparently had an increase of 15% on memberships today. On SBS World News Australia, Mike Tomalaris reported season tickets sales jumped from 50 to 500. Were they really that low yesterday? How long have they been out for? Or are Sydney FC members notoriously late when renewing memberships? I am guessing they mean they were getting on average 50 people a day signing up for the past few days then it has jumped to 500 signing up in a day
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Maybe he meant per day??
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moofa wrote:SpawningSalmon wrote:chillbilly wrote:Sydney apparently had an increase of 15% on memberships today. On SBS World News Australia, Mike Tomalaris reported season tickets sales jumped from 50 to 500. Were they really that low yesterday? How long have they been out for? Or are Sydney FC members notoriously late when renewing memberships? I am guessing they mean they were getting on average 50 people a day signing up for the past few days then it has jumped to 500 signing up in a day That certainly sounds more likely. Mike Tomalaris wrote:In the first four hours of business this morning, Sydney FC's season ticket sales increased tenfold - from 50 to more than 500 http://www.sbs.com.au/news/video/2276254697/SBS-630-News-part-33:30 onwards
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SpawningSalmon wrote:chillbilly wrote:Sydney apparently had an increase of 15% on memberships today. On SBS World News Australia, Mike Tomalaris reported season tickets sales jumped from 50 to 500. Were they really that low yesterday? How long have they been out for? Or are Sydney FC members notoriously late when renewing memberships? That means before today, given the 5 memberships I purchased, I had 10% of SFC's total memberships. Boom. \:d/ But, yes, that's wrong. I know at least 15-20 members on top of my 5. So unless I know 50% of members the replies are correct. If it was 500 in a day and that's 15% of memberships, that would put us at about 3500 memberships. Sounds more likely.
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Shatter wrote:SpawningSalmon wrote:chillbilly wrote:Sydney apparently had an increase of 15% on memberships today. On SBS World News Australia, Mike Tomalaris reported season tickets sales jumped from 50 to 500. Were they really that low yesterday? How long have they been out for? Or are Sydney FC members notoriously late when renewing memberships? That means before today, given the 5 memberships I purchased, I had 10% of SFC's total memberships. Boom. \:d/ But, yes, that's wrong. I know at least 15-20 members on top of my 5. So unless I know 50% of members the replies are correct. If it was 500 in a day and that's 15% of memberships, that would put us at about 3500 memberships. Sounds more likely. In hindsight, I didn't think it through at all. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Normally
50-4hours>100-8 hours>500-week
Now
500-4 hours>5000 week
lets hope
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Can we find A-league membership numbers for all previous seasons?
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Shatter wrote:SpawningSalmon wrote:chillbilly wrote:Sydney apparently had an increase of 15% on memberships today. On SBS World News Australia, Mike Tomalaris reported season tickets sales jumped from 50 to 500. Were they really that low yesterday? How long have they been out for? Or are Sydney FC members notoriously late when renewing memberships? That means before today, given the 5 memberships I purchased, I had 10% of SFC's total memberships. Boom. \:d/ But, yes, that's wrong. I know at least 15-20 members on top of my 5. So unless I know 50% of members the replies are correct. If it was 500 in a day and that's 15% of memberships, that would put us at about 3500 memberships. Sounds more likely. It was 1000, we are at 7000ish. Apparently.
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Nico wrote:Shatter wrote:SpawningSalmon wrote:chillbilly wrote:Sydney apparently had an increase of 15% on memberships today. On SBS World News Australia, Mike Tomalaris reported season tickets sales jumped from 50 to 500. Were they really that low yesterday? How long have they been out for? Or are Sydney FC members notoriously late when renewing memberships? That means before today, given the 5 memberships I purchased, I had 10% of SFC's total memberships. Boom. \:d/ But, yes, that's wrong. I know at least 15-20 members on top of my 5. So unless I know 50% of members the replies are correct. If it was 500 in a day and that's 15% of memberships, that would put us at about 3500 memberships. Sounds more likely. It was 1000, we are at 7000ish. Apparently. I suspect he was referring to 50 sales per day and that day they had jumped to 500.
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Denis Law wrote:Nico wrote:Shatter wrote:SpawningSalmon wrote:chillbilly wrote:Sydney apparently had an increase of 15% on memberships today. On SBS World News Australia, Mike Tomalaris reported season tickets sales jumped from 50 to 500. Were they really that low yesterday? How long have they been out for? Or are Sydney FC members notoriously late when renewing memberships? That means before today, given the 5 memberships I purchased, I had 10% of SFC's total memberships. Boom. \:d/ But, yes, that's wrong. I know at least 15-20 members on top of my 5. So unless I know 50% of members the replies are correct. If it was 500 in a day and that's 15% of memberships, that would put us at about 3500 memberships. Sounds more likely. It was 1000, we are at 7000ish. Apparently. I suspect he was referring to 50 sales per day and that day they had jumped to 500. Yes he was, which was reported on SBS news at 6.30. Who knows what time they got that report?? Maybe at 4-5pm? There would have been large sales after that as people knocked off work. At the end of the day the sales ended up at 1000 (that's the number being thrown round). You halve the number of memberships if you use the 15% as if using 500 reported on SBS news.
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Shatter wrote:SpawningSalmon wrote:chillbilly wrote:Sydney apparently had an increase of 15% on memberships today. On SBS World News Australia, Mike Tomalaris reported season tickets sales jumped from 50 to 500. Were they really that low yesterday? How long have they been out for? Or are Sydney FC members notoriously late when renewing memberships? That means before today, given the 5 memberships I purchased, I had 10% of SFC's total memberships. Boom. \:d/ But, yes, that's wrong. I know at least 15-20 members on top of my 5. So unless I know 50% of members the replies are correct. If it was 500 in a day and that's 15% of memberships, that would put us at about 3500 memberships. Sounds more likely. When I bought mine about 3 weeks ago, I was told that we had around 1500.
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TBG Facebook wrote:Sydney FC CEO Tony Pignata has said that the club has already reached its target of 7,000 members.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:TBG Facebook wrote:Sydney FC CEO Tony Pignata has said that the club has already reached its target of 7,000 members. modest target but at least they've acheived it, now for 10k plus and let's hope they can sustain it past this season. well done
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Joffa wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:TBG Facebook wrote:Sydney FC CEO Tony Pignata has said that the club has already reached its target of 7,000 members. modest target but at least they've acheived it, now for 10k plus and let's hope they can sustain it past this season. well done Hopefully they keep going.
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7k. Great that we have reached our target. It's be amazing to see 10k number, I would of thought it fantasy till recently.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:TBG Facebook wrote:Sydney FC CEO Tony Pignata has said that the club has already reached its target of 7,000 members. How old is that quote?
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sydneyfc1987 wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:TBG Facebook wrote:Sydney FC CEO Tony Pignata has said that the club has already reached its target of 7,000 members. How old is that quote? About an hour ago on Facebook.
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The current numbers i have gathered are...
Adelaide 2000
Brisbane ?
Central Coast 2300
Heart 3700
Newcastle 8296
Perth 5000 (all renewals)
Sydney 7000
Victory 14664
Wellington ?
West Sydney 1400
Each teams target
Adelaide 5500
Brisbane 10000
Central Coast 5000
Heart 9000
Newcastle 11000
Perth ?
Sydney 6500
Victory 22000
Wellington 4000
West Sydney 7000
2011/12 Season numbers
Adelaide 5500
Brisbane 4459
Central Coast 3600
Heart 6500
Newcastle 10500
Perth ?
Sydney 6500
Victory 18767
Wellington ?
Btw the numbers i put in bold are quite old so if you see any updates on them let me know so i can update.
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Some clubs must be embarrassed by their numbers hence lack of advertising
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ozboy wrote:Some clubs must be embarrassed by their numbers hence lack of advertising I can see some clubs might (Adelaide, CCM, Wellington and WS) but surely brisbane have grown since last year and Perth already have 5000 which is nothing to be "embarrassed" about.
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tbitm wrote:ozboy wrote:Some clubs must be embarrassed by their numbers hence lack of advertising I can see some clubs might (Adelaide, CCM, Wellington and WS) but surely brisbane have grown since last year and Perth already have 5000 which is nothing to be "embarrassed" about. Agree so why not put it on their website
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tbitm wrote:The current numbers i have gathered are...
Adelaide 2000
Brisbane ?
Central Coast 2300
Heart 3700
Newcastle 8296
Perth 5000 (all renewals)
Sydney 7000
Victory 14664
Wellington ?
West Sydney 1400
Each teams target
Adelaide 5500
Brisbane 10000
Central Coast 5000
Heart 9000
Newcastle 11000
Perth ?
Sydney 6500
Victory 22000
Wellington 4000
West Sydney 7000
2011/12 Season numbers
Adelaide 5500
Brisbane 4459
Central Coast 3600
Heart 6500
Newcastle 10500
Perth ?
Sydney 6500
Victory 18767
Wellington ?
Btw the numbers i put in bold are quite old so if you see any updates on them let me know so i can update.
Edited by tbitm: 10/9/2012 12:03:40 AM Some of these numbers are slightly concerning, especially Heart, Adelaide and wanderers. Do we usually see a jump in memberships in the week leading up to/after the first game?
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Wanderers has over 2000, probably closer to 2400.
You're crazy if you think WSW will get 7000 members in its first season and have Sydney as 6500 when they have had 7 years head start? Who comes up with these figures?
Sydney FS as the premier flagship huge club that everyone calls it, should be aiming for 12k members...and now with ADP they might just get it.
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Erebus wrote:Wanderers has over 2000, probably closer to 2400.
You're crazy if you think WSW will get 7000 members in its first season and have Sydney as 6500 when they have had 7 years head start? Who comes up with these figures?
Sydney FS as the premier flagship huge club that everyone calls it, should be aiming for 12k members...and now with ADP they might just get it. I think those targets are from the clubs. WSW said that was their target - clearly too high for a start up club.
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September 10, 2012 Quote:Such has been the impact of Del Piero's signing that the Sky Blues have sold 1500 memberships since the deal was completed last Wednesday, and have even had membership inquiries from Melbourne and Adelaide. http://www.smh.com.au/sport/a-league/del-piero-to-receive-heros-welcome-20120909-25mfy.htmlEdited by girtXc: 10/9/2012 03:23:03 PM
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Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 3700 (August 31st)
Newcastle 8415 (September 10th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 1400 (August 10th)
Btw all the WSW fans saying its more like 2000 or 2400 and I've even seen 2500-3000 said on the WSW forum but can you give me a source or a reason why you claim that. I believe you but I just want a source so I can be consistent with my data.
Edited by tbitm: 10/9/2012 07:59:35 PM
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tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th
Heart 3700 (August 31st)
Newcastle 8415 (September 10th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 1400 (August 10th)
Btw all the WSW fans saying its more like 2000 or 2400 can you give me a source or a reason why you claim that. I believe you but I just want a source so I can be consistent with my data. Really only two of those are acceptable, MV and Newcastle.
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tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th
Heart 3700 (August 31st)
Newcastle 8415 (September 10th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 1400 (August 10th)
Btw all the WSW fans saying its more like 2000 or 2400 and I've even seen 2500-3000 said on the WSW forum but can you give me a source or a reason why you claim that. I believe you but I just want a source so I can be consistent with my data.
Edited by tbitm: 10/9/2012 07:59:35 PM tbh the Reds and the Roar's numbers are pissweak.
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with the del piero signing we should crack 10k
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bennyblanco wrote:tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th
Heart 3700 (August 31st)
Newcastle 8415 (September 10th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 1400 (August 10th)
Btw all the WSW fans saying its more like 2000 or 2400 and I've even seen 2500-3000 said on the WSW forum but can you give me a source or a reason why you claim that. I believe you but I just want a source so I can be consistent with my data.
Edited by tbitm: 10/9/2012 07:59:35 PM tbh the Reds and the Roar's numbers are pissweak. We don't have a membership culture in Brisbane. Even a year or two ago the Broncos didn't even believe in members. Anyway where did you get these numbers from?
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:bennyblanco wrote:tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th
Heart 3700 (August 31st)
Newcastle 8415 (September 10th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 1400 (August 10th)
Btw all the WSW fans saying its more like 2000 or 2400 and I've even seen 2500-3000 said on the WSW forum but can you give me a source or a reason why you claim that. I believe you but I just want a source so I can be consistent with my data.
Edited by tbitm: 10/9/2012 07:59:35 PM tbh the Reds and the Roar's numbers are pissweak. We don't have a membership culture in Brisbane. Even a year or two ago the Broncos didn't even believe in members. Anyway where did you get these numbers from? Perth and Adelaide http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/a-league-takes-steps-to-draw-bigger-memberships-crowd-figures-start-official-supporters-clubs/story-e6frf4gl-1226447400755Got an email from Heart Victory http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/melbournevictory/Newcastle http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/newcastlejetsWest Sydney I believe i got it from their Fb or their Twitter Brisbane http://theroarforum.com/index.php?topic=5447.msg106286Sydney Fc Facebook CCM http://www.ccmariners-memberships.com.au/
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Roar will never have big member counts.
Unlike "AFL states", Qld and NSW just don't have the same concept of membership that you guys do down south.
The Brisbane Lions AFL club even during its "glory era" when they were selling out almost every home ground (around 40k) still only had memberships of less then 20k.
It's just not the done thing up here, in saying that, my Roar scarf should be arriving soon!
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Reds have over 30k members, broncos over 25k
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Glory Recruit wrote:Reds have over 30k members, broncos over 25k What did they have 2 years ago? I would say under 10K. All the clubs in Brisbane are now getting into this idea. It's a new concept up here.
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RJL25 wrote:Roar will never have big member counts.
Unlike "AFL states", Qld and NSW just don't have the same concept of membership that you guys do down south.
The Brisbane Lions AFL club even during its "glory era" when they were selling out almost every home ground (around 40k) still only had memberships of less then 20k.
It's just not the done thing up here, in saying that, my Roar scarf should be arriving soon! The Lions had 20762 members this year.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:Glory Recruit wrote:Reds have over 30k members, broncos over 25k What did they have 2 years ago? I would say under 10K. All the clubs in Brisbane are now getting into this idea. It's a new concept up here. The NRL was claiming increases in memberships in NSW and QLD of between 20 and 50% last season so the concept is catching on there albeit only recently.
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I just checked my WSW membership number and its just under 2000.
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Gyfox wrote:
I just checked my WSW membership number and its just under 2000.
Thanks ill add that in, presuming your number is in regard to you being the 2000th member, do you remember what day (or around what day) you bought it?
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Are those AUFC memberships the "memberships" or season tickets? Last season, we sold over 5,000 season tickets and around 1,500 memberships (or somewhere around those figures).
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Those numbers are hell old. like almost 2 months.
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tbitm wrote:Gyfox wrote:
I just checked my WSW membership number and its just under 2000.
Thanks ill add that in, presuming your number is in regard to you being the 2000th member, do you remember what day (or around what day) you bought it? Beginning of August.
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Tom AUFC wrote:Are those AUFC memberships the "memberships" or season tickets? Last season, we sold over 5,000 season tickets and around 1,500 memberships (or somewhere around those figures). Quote:Adelaide United, who are expecting a decrease following a poor campaign last season, say they are delighted to have over 2000 members already signed up - ahead of last season's figures for the corresponding time. I'm sure those are season ticket figures - seriously doubt 2000+ paid for a financial membership at all, let alone by mid-August last year.
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Other than WSW the Roar has the lowest membership but manages to consistantly have the second highest average crowds.
In a resort somewhere
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paulc wrote:Other than WSW the Roar has the lowest membership but manages to consistantly have the second highest average crowds. Proves what i'm saying, but the haters will say that we are just trying to cover it up...
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One of the strategies for Melbourne Victory's reasonable member size is the "Auto 12".
It gives folks the chance to pay off over 12 months.The Auto 12 continues year on year unless you actually opt out
This works really well because it gives the club a strong base of 5k from day 1
Do other clubs offer this?
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girtXc wrote:One of the strategies for Melbourne Victory's reasonable member size is the "Auto 12".
It gives folks the chance to pay off over 12 months.The Auto 12 continues year on year unless you actually opt out
This works really well because it gives the club a strong base of 5k from day 1
Do other clubs offer this? Yes Newcastle has the Easy payment plan, where the membership is spread over the year and is automatically carried over for the next year unless you opt out by a set date.
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danp638 wrote:girtXc wrote:One of the strategies for Melbourne Victory's reasonable member size is the "Auto 12".
It gives folks the chance to pay off over 12 months.The Auto 12 continues year on year unless you actually opt out
This works really well because it gives the club a strong base of 5k from day 1
Do other clubs offer this? Yes Newcastle has the Easy payment plan, where the membership is spread over the year and is automatically carried over for the next year unless you opt out by a set date. No surprises that they have they biggest memberships Hopefully other clubs do this because it's the best way to convert people to membership
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girtXc wrote:danp638 wrote:girtXc wrote:One of the strategies for Melbourne Victory's reasonable member size is the "Auto 12".
It gives folks the chance to pay off over 12 months.The Auto 12 continues year on year unless you actually opt out
This works really well because it gives the club a strong base of 5k from day 1
Do other clubs offer this? Yes Newcastle has the Easy payment plan, where the membership is spread over the year and is automatically carried over for the next year unless you opt out by a set date. No surprises that they have they biggest memberships Hopefully other clubs do this because it's the best way to convert people to membership WSW do it too.
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Ricki Herbert said Wellingtons memberships are up 40% on this time last year.
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WS now have 2000 members.
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Glory Recruit wrote:Ricki Herbert said Wellingtons memberships are up 40% on this time last year. =d>
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:WS now have 2000 members. Awesome, hopefully they can get 3k or 4k signed up by the first couple of rounds.
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Will be interesting to see WSW's crowds. If they average 5000 they really were just a vocal minority. If it's 10,000 then it'll be a massive success and justified.
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How many members did Heart have in their first season?
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just renewed my family Heart membership and asked what the latest figures were like...the guy said he hadn't checked for a couple of days but it was around 4,000 then....who knows, i'm a little worried to be honest. We were hoping for an increase this year and its looking like we'll be lucky to match last year.
Also, why haven't Heart published the financial report for the last year??
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aufc_ole wrote:How many members did Heart have in their first season? This is what I want to know. Heart, Fury and Gold Coast. I want to know how many members they had in their first years.
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aufc_ole wrote:How many members did Heart have in their first season? Pretty sure Heart had around 5k members first season. But the Melbourne sports market has a huge membership culture. Not so in Sydney, FC has never had over 7k members, so for WS, if they can get 3k or more first year, that's great. Their rivalry will build on from there and that'll help both clubs grow.
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Erebus wrote:aufc_ole wrote:How many members did Heart have in their first season? This is what I want to know. Heart, Fury and Gold Coast. I want to know how many members they had in their first years. The Heart had something like 4,500 from what I know....but once again, withouth anyone publishing their numbers, you will never know for sure. The one thing which also interests me is the break down of eg Adult Memberships to children...eg I just did a family membership which is 2 Adults and includes 4 kids (even if you don't have 4 kids under 11 or so)....so that counts as 6. They should just publish revenue earned from Memberships, Corporate boxes, etc...we are entitled to this knowledge as we are paying members!
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dublin_101 wrote:i'm a little worried to be honest. We were hoping for an increase this year and its looking like we'll be lucky to match last year. Last year around mid december (before the christmas derby) Melbourne Heart started selling three game memberships, it wouldn't surprise me if they were added to last year's membership count...so with that in mind, i very much doubt that our total membership count (of last season) was at 6,500 for the start of or a few weeks in to the season I think it's fair to say that 9,000 is not a realistic goal, if we have a good start to the season (so that more people buy these 3 game memberships), particularly at home...i wouldn't expect more than 7,200 if the figure of 6,500 is correct
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dublin_101 wrote:just renewed my family Heart membership and asked what the latest figures were like...the guy said he hadn't checked for a couple of days but it was around 4,000 then....who knows, i'm a little worried to be honest. We were hoping for an increase this year and its looking like we'll be lucky to match last year.
Also, why haven't Heart published the financial report for the last year?? I'm not sure how you would get financial reports from clubs. They're all privately owned, so there's no obligation to provide members with financial reports - unlike actual member owned clubs like AFL clubs. I'm sure it's been discussed before, but it's probably more accurate to say that in the A League, we're season ticket holders rather than members. I agree though. 4,000 sounds a bit disappointing at this stage. We should be looking at 6,000+ by Round 1. During the season, they will release things like 5 game memberships which might then help push the final numbers up if we're doing well on the pitch. But betting agencies and even things like 442's season predictions have us bottom two or three in the league at the moment. I'm bemused by all that because I think we've got a stronger squad than last year. But maybe we're fighting a general feeling that we might struggle this season.
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dublin_101 wrote:Erebus wrote:aufc_ole wrote:How many members did Heart have in their first season? This is what I want to know. Heart, Fury and Gold Coast. I want to know how many members they had in their first years. The Heart had something like 4,500 from what I know....but once again, withouth anyone publishing their numbers, you will never know for sure. The one thing which also interests me is the break down of eg Adult Memberships to children...eg I just did a family membership which is 2 Adults and includes 4 kids (even if you don't have 4 kids under 11 or so)....so that counts as 6. They should just publish revenue earned from Memberships, Corporate boxes, etc...we are entitled to this knowledge as we are paying members! Year 1 was 5,300 I believe. Then 6,700 last year. But I've wondered as well whether a family membership counts as 1 or 6?
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deluka wrote:
I think it's fair to say that 9,000 is not a realistic goal, if we have a good start to the season (so that more people buy these 3 game memberships), particularly at home...i wouldn't expect more than 7,200 if the figure of 6,500 is correct
I agree. Anything above 7,000 would be fine in my opinion as it still means growth from year to year. 9,000 was always an ambitious target.
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dublin_101 wrote:Erebus wrote:aufc_ole wrote:How many members did Heart have in their first season? This is what I want to know. Heart, Fury and Gold Coast. I want to know how many members they had in their first years. The Heart had something like 4,500 from what I know....but once again, withouth anyone publishing their numbers, you will never know for sure. The one thing which also interests me is the break down of eg Adult Memberships to children...eg I just did a family membership which is 2 Adults and includes 4 kids (even if you don't have 4 kids under 11 or so)....so that counts as 6. They should just publish revenue earned from Memberships, Corporate boxes, etc...we are entitled to this knowledge as we are paying members! The only club with actual members is AUFC, we have an AGM on the 10th of October.
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Adrian72 wrote:
Year 1 was 5,300 I believe. Then 6,700 last year. But I've wondered as well whether a family membership counts as 1 or 6?
it would definitely count as 6...otherwise we'd be a well off club. last year a whole heap of kids memberships were given away for free (or for a very low price) to all green gully juniors from memory..so that boosted numbers as well.. i suppose the A League clubs are becoming like AFL clubs with spitting out all of this crap about so called member numbers, i never believe any of them!
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General Ashnak wrote:dublin_101 wrote:Erebus wrote:aufc_ole wrote:How many members did Heart have in their first season? This is what I want to know. Heart, Fury and Gold Coast. I want to know how many members they had in their first years. The Heart had something like 4,500 from what I know....but once again, withouth anyone publishing their numbers, you will never know for sure. The one thing which also interests me is the break down of eg Adult Memberships to children...eg I just did a family membership which is 2 Adults and includes 4 kids (even if you don't have 4 kids under 11 or so)....so that counts as 6. They should just publish revenue earned from Memberships, Corporate boxes, etc...we are entitled to this knowledge as we are paying members! The only club with actual members is AUFC, we have an AGM on the 10th of October. what is the difference for aufc between member & season ticket holder - privilege-wise as well as $ investment? what do you pay extra, and what do you actually get?
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pv4 wrote:General Ashnak wrote:dublin_101 wrote:Erebus wrote:aufc_ole wrote:How many members did Heart have in their first season? This is what I want to know. Heart, Fury and Gold Coast. I want to know how many members they had in their first years. The Heart had something like 4,500 from what I know....but once again, withouth anyone publishing their numbers, you will never know for sure. The one thing which also interests me is the break down of eg Adult Memberships to children...eg I just did a family membership which is 2 Adults and includes 4 kids (even if you don't have 4 kids under 11 or so)....so that counts as 6. They should just publish revenue earned from Memberships, Corporate boxes, etc...we are entitled to this knowledge as we are paying members! The only club with actual members is AUFC, we have an AGM on the 10th of October. what is the difference for aufc between member & season ticket holder - privilege-wise as well as $ investment? what do you pay extra, and what do you actually get? http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/adelaideunited/seasontickets
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Also they have changed it so they are ticketed members and financial members, you can be both or one or t'other.
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Quote: Melbourne Victory Update
Melbourne Victory are delighted to have already welcomed 15,300 members for 2012/13, with 4 weeks to go before the Melbourne Derby takes centre stage. Memberships for reserved seating in the South End at AAMI Park have already sold out! Good seats still remain in Premium A, B and C, but act quickly.
Melbourne Victory membership packs have commenced mailing and they are lodged in batches. Please be patient if your friend or family member receive their pack before you, as all packs will arrive on or before September 27, 2012.
Melbourne Victory memberships will be available to purchase at the MVFC Intra-Club match on September 23.
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Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9008 (September 17th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15300 (Septmber 12th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th)
Edited by tbitm: 18/9/2012 02:00:31 AM
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And brisbane were aiming for 10k:S
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Are Sydney still doing that deal where kids under 12 get a free membership if they play in a team or something along the lines of that?
This season would be the perfect time to hook them in with the rest of their families.
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tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9008 (September 17th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th) Are these numbers confirmed? If so what more do the Brisbane public want, or would they prefer to just goto one game a year if Roar make the Grand Final.
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tjwhalan wrote:tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9008 (September 17th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th) Are these numbers confirmed? If so what more do the Brisbane public want, or would they prefer to just goto one game a year if Roar make the Grand Final. Still unofficial for the Roar. I'm not sure why you feel the need to attack our crowd figures considering we average the 2nd highest in the comp.
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As per my previous post Melbourne Victory were at 15,300 late last week
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girtXc wrote:As per my previous post Melbourne Victory were at 15,300 late last week Thanks, i really should read other peoples posts. btw I've now fixed it
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:tjwhalan wrote:tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9008 (September 17th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th) Are these numbers confirmed? If so what more do the Brisbane public want, or would they prefer to just goto one game a year if Roar make the Grand Final. Still unofficial for the Roar. I'm not sure why you feel the need to attack our crowd figures considering we average the 2nd highest in the comp. Since the numbers are unofficial it has to be taken with a grain of salt, but they are a worry largely because Brisbane should be getting around the second highest in the league, but look no where near it despite winning the grand final for the past two seasons, and a shift towards a membership culture in QLD in other football codes. I personally won't criticise the numbers until the season starts and we have a better idea of the actual membership count.
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These stats are unofficial so take what I say with a grain of salt, but premierships wont grow a fanbase alone. All clubs need to engage the local community.
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killua wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:tjwhalan wrote:tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9008 (September 17th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th) Are these numbers confirmed? If so what more do the Brisbane public want, or would they prefer to just goto one game a year if Roar make the Grand Final. Still unofficial for the Roar. I'm not sure why you feel the need to attack our crowd figures considering we average the 2nd highest in the comp. Since the numbers are unofficial it has to be taken with a grain of salt, but they are a worry largely because Brisbane should be getting around the second highest in the league, but look no where near it despite winning the grand final for the past two seasons, and a shift towards a membership culture in QLD in other football codes. I personally won't criticise the numbers until the season starts and we have a better idea of the actual membership count. Why should Brisbane be getting the second highest memberships? They play in a state where membership is not part of the tradition for sport. Its only since the Lions rocked up that it was introduced. It is taking hold though. The Broncos actually got membership above 50% of average attendance in the last two seasons and The Reds have had a 400% increase in that time too.
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if i were in charge of brisbane roar i'd be pushing for a suncorp-year-pass so you get your broncos fans & roar fans on season passes all year round. could do some serious damage with them, i reckon.
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Brisbane would probably have a higher take up of memberships if they had a smaller stadium
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Whats Sydney's like today?
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Those numbers for the Roar are clearly false. We had around 3800 members last season, we've broken through the 5000 mark comfortably at this stage.
And pv4, there's Suncorp Stadium memberships available. Probably around 1000-2000 of them are at every game, and aren't counted in the official membership tally. Good value if you like both rugby codes and football, or even just two of them.
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Imagine if you can get a membership for all the codes in your city, it would be mutually beneficial for every league.
Melbourne football membership: Your choice of MH/MV + your choice of AFL + Storm + Rebels. Access to GA of all home games. I'd buy that.
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pv4 wrote:if i were in charge of brisbane roar i'd be pushing for a suncorp-year-pass so you get your broncos fans & roar fans on season passes all year round. could do some serious damage with them, i reckon. Suncorp Stadium already has 5039 seats allocated for yearly stadium membership. These are SOLD OUT. http://www.suncorpstadium.com.au/Memberships/Membership_Packages.aspx
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gurudave wrote:pv4 wrote:if i were in charge of brisbane roar i'd be pushing for a suncorp-year-pass so you get your broncos fans & roar fans on season passes all year round. could do some serious damage with them, i reckon. Suncorp Stadium already has 5039 seats allocated for yearly stadium membership. These are SOLD OUT. http://www.suncorpstadium.com.au/Memberships/Membership_Packages.aspx I suppose the question is, how many people are using them to see the Roar? Are people using them to just see Broncos and Reds? Similar question would need to asked of Allianz membership where we have Waratahs, Roosters, and SFC.
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scouse_roar wrote:Those numbers for the Roar are clearly false. We had around 3800 members last season, we've broken through the 5000 mark comfortably at this stage.
And pv4, there's Suncorp Stadium memberships available. Probably around 1000-2000 of them are at every game, and aren't counted in the official membership tally. Good value if you like both rugby codes and football, or even just two of them. Sounds good. I've already seen more billboards this off-season than any previous. We are really pushing the $50 kid membership.
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that's awesome about the suncorp memberships. didn't even know they existed, obviously.
it's too hard for me to comment on roar membership numbers now, it all seems to far up in the air.
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scouse_roar wrote:Those numbers for the Roar are clearly false. We had around 3800 members last season, we've broken through the 5000 mark comfortably at this stage.
Brisbane had 4459 members last year (refer to page 1), whats your source that you are above 5000 this year? its not just speculation is it? Because WSW fans have been telling me for weeks that they are well above 2000 and they only reached that milestone the other day. Edited by tbitm: 18/9/2012 04:12:18 PM
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Gyfox wrote:killua wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:tjwhalan wrote:tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9008 (September 17th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th) Are these numbers confirmed? If so what more do the Brisbane public want, or would they prefer to just goto one game a year if Roar make the Grand Final. Still unofficial for the Roar. I'm not sure why you feel the need to attack our crowd figures considering we average the 2nd highest in the comp. Since the numbers are unofficial it has to be taken with a grain of salt, but they are a worry largely because Brisbane should be getting around the second highest in the league, but look no where near it despite winning the grand final for the past two seasons, and a shift towards a membership culture in QLD in other football codes. I personally won't criticise the numbers until the season starts and we have a better idea of the actual membership count. Why should Brisbane be getting the second highest memberships? They play in a state where membership is not part of the tradition for sport. Its only since the Lions rocked up that it was introduced. It is taking hold though. The Broncos actually got membership above 50% of average attendance in the last two seasons and The Reds have had a 400% increase in that time too. Brisbane should be getting the second highest membership because, according to Brisbane supporters, they average the second highest membership numbers in the league. Adding to that, the idea of memberships has been taking hold in Brisbane especially over the last few years, and there is no major reason why they should be going backwards. Personally I think their target of 10,000 is realistic, that the current numbers quotes are too low, and I think they have every chance to make it with proper engagement of the community.
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killua wrote:Gyfox wrote:killua wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:tjwhalan wrote:tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 2500 (August 12th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9008 (September 17th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15035 (Septmber 10th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th) Are these numbers confirmed? If so what more do the Brisbane public want, or would they prefer to just goto one game a year if Roar make the Grand Final. Still unofficial for the Roar. I'm not sure why you feel the need to attack our crowd figures considering we average the 2nd highest in the comp. Since the numbers are unofficial it has to be taken with a grain of salt, but they are a worry largely because Brisbane should be getting around the second highest in the league, but look no where near it despite winning the grand final for the past two seasons, and a shift towards a membership culture in QLD in other football codes. I personally won't criticise the numbers until the season starts and we have a better idea of the actual membership count. Why should Brisbane be getting the second highest memberships? They play in a state where membership is not part of the tradition for sport. Its only since the Lions rocked up that it was introduced. It is taking hold though. The Broncos actually got membership above 50% of average attendance in the last two seasons and The Reds have had a 400% increase in that time too. Brisbane should be getting the second highest membership because, according to Brisbane supporters, they average the second highest membership numbers in the league. Adding to that, the idea of memberships has been taking hold in Brisbane especially over the last few years, and there is no major reason why they should be going backwards. Personally I think their target of 10,000 is realistic, that the current numbers quotes are too low, and I think they have every chance to make it with proper engagement of the community. No we average the 2nd highest crowd figures.
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Ah ok, my apologies.
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Will Newcastles memberships go up if they sign Heskey?
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Glory Recruit wrote:Will Newcastles memberships go up if they sign Heskey? Fox Sports News have confirmed the signing of Heskey. As for Newcastle memberships, i think they will increase for Newcastle...it's not exactly going to slow down their chase to 11,000 members
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deluka wrote:Glory Recruit wrote:Will Newcastles memberships go up if they sign Heskey? Fox Sports News have confirmed the signing of Heskey. As for Newcastle memberships, i think they will increase for Newcastle...it's not exactly going to slow down their chase to 11,000 members Apparently facebook said its not official yet.
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Glory Recruit wrote:deluka wrote:Glory Recruit wrote:Will Newcastles memberships go up if they sign Heskey? Fox Sports News have confirmed the signing of Heskey. As for Newcastle memberships, i think they will increase for Newcastle...it's not exactly going to slow down their chase to 11,000 members Apparently facebook said its not official yet. Are there any Manchester United supporters here? I need to know how to put the cork back in this bottle of champagne.
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deluka wrote:Glory Recruit wrote:Apparently facebook said its not official yet. Are there any Manchester United supporters here? I need to know how to put the cork back in this bottle of champagne. =d>
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Tried to use a ticketek gift voucher bought by one of the teams i coach, cant be used against BR membership how shit is that. 5 less members thanks
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dirkvanadidas wrote:Tried to use a ticketek gift voucher bought by one of the teams i coach, cant be used against BR membership
how shit is that.
5 less members thanks Not sure what you expect....membership isnt the same as buying tickets for single games/concerts etc. Ticketek is simply the payment processor for Brisbane Roar memberships.
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Surely, if these marquees are confirmed, will see rises in Adelaide and Perth where capacities are so low
Those clubs need to push that point strongly
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deluka wrote:Glory Recruit wrote:deluka wrote:Glory Recruit wrote:Will Newcastles memberships go up if they sign Heskey? Fox Sports News have confirmed the signing of Heskey. As for Newcastle memberships, i think they will increase for Newcastle...it's not exactly going to slow down their chase to 11,000 members Apparently facebook said its not official yet. Are there any Manchester United supporters here? I need to know how to put the cork back in this bottle of champagne. :lol: :lol: :lol: This is going in my sig. ;) Edited by Tom AUFC: 20/9/2012 12:24:05 AM
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girtXc wrote:Surely, if these marquees are confirmed, will see rises in Adelaide and Perth where capacities are so low
Those clubs need to push that point strongly Oh here in Perth, 'capacity is low' alright - nib is under going redevelopment, so the stadium capacity is only around 9k! 5k, at the very least, in a 9k stadium isn't too bad IMHO - If Glory aren't near packing out that venue for every game, including Wellington, then there's a problem, lol. BTW As far as I can see Glory track well and always have with memberships, despite their poor A-League history so far (bar last season). It's a bummer time to be seeing this redevelopment considering how attractive a proposition some of our visitors will be, ontop of Glory's quite successful last season. And Adelaide will surely be pushing their capacity this season, 12-13k crowd average or the like (In a 16k cap stadium!)? Enthusiasm carrying over from their ACL campaign hopefully helps - here's hoping they do well in Tashkent! Perth and Adelaide have never been the worries, bar Perth's early A-League history when FFA had to be in control after Tana sold and were major struggle street under Ron Smith. But even then crowds were still 'okay.' Adelaide has had impressive crowds and probably strong memberships even in their worst seasons, like that season they finished last? Not to go over old ground, but the real concerns have always been Brisbane and Sydney. But finally, both seem to be on an upward trend - especially Brisbane, who although coming from a low base, could really be setting themselves up well now and while that 10k mark is ambitious - medium term it's realistic - especially if they keep up their level of success and steady growth off the pitch. Their early A-League season crowd records could be well matched sooner rather than later - which was around 17-18k fan average season 3 I think it was, circa later Bleiberg/early Farina era, with a few 25-30k crowds for big drawing and finals fixtures. Sydney too, seem to have been growing from their low base of memberships over the past few seasons now. So them reaching 7-8k is quite an achievement, considering their earlier context. Though yes, it could be better, but it will get better and they will surely push past 10k, maybe even this season? That would be a record of records for the club, considering their memberships are already at a record high. Edited by gloryperth: 20/9/2012 12:47:02 AM
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My source is someone at the club for 5k+.
I'd say that's also a very low estimate, because I also heard something about 1k+ NEW members...
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Jets now up past 9.2k
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kitsoasis wrote:Imagine if you can get a membership for all the codes in your city, it would be mutually beneficial for every league.
Melbourne football membership: Your choice of MH/MV + your choice of AFL + Storm + Rebels. Access to GA of all home games. I'd buy that. You'd actually be able to stomach those other games?? I doubt i could even if it offered good value
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Blackmac79 wrote:Jets now up past 9.2k Hi, Not trying to hijack this thread, i just did not want to start a whole new thread about this question and I did not know where else to ask - it is related to membership. I'm looking at buying a membership to the Jets this season. I have been living down in Wagga for a while, but I am moving back after Christmas (Nelson Bay) and I want to get to some games. Not sure at this stage if I will buy a whole season membership or just a regional one - as I will be missing a lot of the season before I move back there. I don't have many friends up there who like the A-League, but I try and do my part to drag people to the game to get them interested (may not be that hard with ADP here now). Anyways if I have a members seat and I want to bring a friend or two, most probably the seats around mine will be taken by other members, but can i ask for a free ticket next to my friends in the general reserve or general admission section. Or is it a case of I sit by myself or buy a new ticket with my friends in the general area. Has anyone had this dilemma before?. I hope that all made sense as I think I have confused myself now.#-o
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there are two grass hills at either end where you can sit where you like. You can just leave your seat and join them on one of the hills without having to buy another ticket.
Another option is to buy two memberships, one adult and one child. With a child membership, you can upgrade it to a full adult when you need to by paying an extra $20 on match day so if you have a kid to take along you can buy them a membership ticket and then upgrade it when you want to take a mate to the game instead. They can then sit next to you in your area.
Or if you want an actual seat with them you can wait until everyone is seated and find some vacant seats. I'm not sure how often security ask to see your tickets in the general admission areas.
It would be great if you could get a membership to support the club. Good on you.
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scouse_roar wrote:My source is someone at the club for 5k+.
I'd say that's also a very low estimate, because I also heard something about 1k+ NEW members... ADP, Heskey and now Ballack - that's 3 visiting fixtures that for Roar fans and those of other teams around the league, that could appeal to the wider masses, turning the visit of SFC, Jets and Wanderers into 'Events.' Unlike the Yorke, Fowler and even Kewell days - It's not just one circus a week, but potentially 2-3! And it ain't any old circus - it's a veritable Cirque Du Soleil! There will 'surely' be 'some' knock on, for all A-League clubs, especially following all the hype, nationally, of the past week - The A-League has seen unprecedented mainstream coverage, especially considering we're still only in the midst of off-season and the rival codes are in finals stage! I understand view of some around here - It may not have THAT big of a quantifiable impact on numbers around the league, just as Yorke, Kewell and co didn't - And indeed, many may just buy the ticket for the 1 game. But I just speculate that MLS-style having such a spread of Marquee star-power makes more visiting teams premium, hot tickets. We already have 3/9 (Excluding the home team) with superstar marquees, so it gets into territory were it may be more worth it, attractive, for 'new fans' to get get 'some sort of membership' even if it's one of those 5 match ones, mid-season ones, or whatever some clubs offer? And Marquees aside - scouse_roar and other Roar fans, your team has been doing all the right things, it seems, past two seasons, especially on the field? Your memberships have surely been trending upwards accordingly, especially considering low base? And given big success of last couple seasons, you guys were surely set for a record membership level anyway? And it's for the best for a club like yours as it reflects longer term approach - These marquees will be a shot in the arm, but they'll come and go, but hopefully Roar, Sydney and the rest have strengthened their base even further by then. Edited by gloryperth: 21/9/2012 05:45:01 AM
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I just want to add that getting a regional membership probably isnt worth it when A full season (if you are coming at christmas you will still have 50% of games left) is only between $20-40 more off the top of my head.
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I had plans for the motoGP at Phillip Island at the same time Roar are playing WSW. If Ballack is in the team I won't be going anywhere.
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box-33r wrote:Blackmac79 wrote:Jets now up past 9.2k Hi, Not trying to hijack this thread, i just did not want to start a whole new thread about this question and I did not know where else to ask - it is related to membership. I'm looking at buying a membership to the Jets this season. I have been living down in Wagga for a while, but I am moving back after Christmas (Nelson Bay) and I want to get to some games. Not sure at this stage if I will buy a whole season membership or just a regional one - as I will be missing a lot of the season before I move back there. I don't have many friends up there who like the A-League, but I try and do my part to drag people to the game to get them interested (may not be that hard with ADP here now). Anyways if I have a members seat and I want to bring a friend or two, most probably the seats around mine will be taken by other members, but can i ask for a free ticket next to my friends in the general reserve or general admission section. Or is it a case of I sit by myself or buy a new ticket with my friends in the general area. Has anyone had this dilemma before?. I hope that all made sense as I think I have confused myself now.#-o at $115 for a ful membership of $70 for a Regional with only access to 3 games, it is well worth getting the full membership on a payment plan of $11.50 oer month it's cheap as chips.
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rocknerd wrote:box-33r wrote:Blackmac79 wrote:Jets now up past 9.2k Hi, Not trying to hijack this thread, i just did not want to start a whole new thread about this question and I did not know where else to ask - it is related to membership. I'm looking at buying a membership to the Jets this season. I have been living down in Wagga for a while, but I am moving back after Christmas (Nelson Bay) and I want to get to some games. Not sure at this stage if I will buy a whole season membership or just a regional one - as I will be missing a lot of the season before I move back there. I don't have many friends up there who like the A-League, but I try and do my part to drag people to the game to get them interested (may not be that hard with ADP here now). Anyways if I have a members seat and I want to bring a friend or two, most probably the seats around mine will be taken by other members, but can i ask for a free ticket next to my friends in the general reserve or general admission section. Or is it a case of I sit by myself or buy a new ticket with my friends in the general area. Has anyone had this dilemma before?. I hope that all made sense as I think I have confused myself now.#-o at $115 for a ful membership of $70 for a Regional with only access to 3 games, it is well worth getting the full membership on a payment plan of $11.50 oer month it's cheap as chips. A 'non-reserved general admission' membership is cheaper again and you'll never have to worry about taking someone else's seat when you bring your mates along Edited by absent_doz_2259: 21/9/2012 11:14:18 AM
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Good advice people
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Less then 400 member seats for sale at NIB.
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Thanks guys, good info.
I'm thinking now of either getting silver reserved in the Andrew Johns Grandstand or community reserved up above.
Just one other question.. Can I buy 2 adult memberships in my name and then whoever wants to come with me each home game I can just flick one the passes to them?? It doesn't have to be in their name does it?
Sorry guys, just trying to get involved.
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box-33r wrote:Can I buy 2 adult memberships in my name and then whoever wants to come with me each home game I can just flick one the passes to them?? It doesn't have to be in their name does it? Yes, I have two memberships in my name. Even if you don't go to the game, you can give both away for it.
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box-33r wrote:Thanks guys, good info.
I'm thinking now of either getting silver reserved in the Andrew Johns Grandstand or community reserved up above.
Just one other question.. Can I buy 2 adult memberships in my name and then whoever wants to come with me each home game I can just flick one the passes to them?? It doesn't have to be in their name does it?
Sorry guys, just trying to get involved. Absolutely, you can buy many memberships in anyone's name if you wanted. If you call the memberships number they will be able to field the more specific questions you have but in general they are very flexible and helpful with the details and options of thier member packages. No need to apologise, happy to help. Good luck!
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box-33r wrote:Thanks guys, good info.
I'm thinking now of either getting silver reserved in the Andrew Johns Grandstand or community reserved up above.
Just one other question.. Can I buy 2 adult memberships in my name and then whoever wants to come with me each home game I can just flick one the passes to them?? It doesn't have to be in their name does it?
Sorry guys, just trying to get involved. Just consider the heat when buying on that side of the stadium. Generally, if there are a lot of 5.30pm games in dec to feb you are going to boil. If you are thinking of getting a silver membership and looking to renew it year after year, just take that into account. The gold seating in the western stand is sold out for that reason and newcomers will find it hard to get in there.
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tribina wrote:kitsoasis wrote:Imagine if you can get a membership for all the codes in your city, it would be mutually beneficial for every league.
Melbourne football membership: Your choice of MH/MV + your choice of AFL + Storm + Rebels. Access to GA of all home games. I'd buy that. You'd actually be able to stomach those other games?? I doubt i could even if it offered good value Plenty of Melbourne Victory supporters are fans of an AFL team, you can always hear talk of what's going on with AFL in the stadium in the lead up to kick off. Personally I follow both but football is my greater love. Melbourne loves its sport, it would be very smart for Victory or Heart to try and negotiate some sort of partnership with the AFL but I can't see it ever happening.
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There was some talk a while back (2005) between Demons (AFL) and Storm (NRL) linking up, which included the possibility of join memberships as well as joint sponsorships. I don't know what became of it, but maybe Victory could look at bringing it up again with the other clubs. Then again, it would require the AFL, NRL and HAL administrators agreeing on something and supporting each other, so I'd give it about a 1% chance of success.
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I was the only guy at my work who had a Roar membership last year, so far this season I'm one of 3 at work, with another 4 saying they are considering it, but even if they don't get one they will still be attending the majority of games anyway.
Persistence eventually pays off, I think current members constantly pestering friends and workmates probably does more for membership sales then what the clubs marketing department could ever do
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Sorry if this is a re-post, but this is an extract from an old Fox Sports article about BR's hopes and intentions for memberships and crowds this season: wrote:Champions Brisbane Roar say they expect their membership base to increase by as much as 30 per cent this season. Roar are offering $50 memberships for children, and they aim to sign up 3000 youngsters as opposed to 820 last season. Roar also offer free transport to Suncorp Stadium, and they could increase their average crowd to over 15,000 if, as expected, they surpass last season’s figure of 4459 members.
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So how many do Brisbane have atm?
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Glory Recruit wrote:So how many do Brisbane have atm? Scouse is claiming inside knowledge on 5,000+ Last year we went from 1,800 to 4,400 which is a really good increase, if we could continue on to 6,000 this year then I'd be happy
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Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 5000 (September 20th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9258 (September 20th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15905 (Septmber 20th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th)
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Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 5000 (September 20th)
Central Coast 3000 (September 26th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9528 (September 26th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 8000 (September 24th)
Victory 16453 (September 25th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th)
Just a few notes as well, Wellington Phoenix are apparently up 50% on last year what ever that was for the same time. Not sure what that would be but probably somewhere between a jump from 2000 to 3000 and 3000 to 4500 but if someone has last years number post it on here.
Heart I'm assuming had a great membership drive on the family day if Scott Munn is saying that we should be looking at around 7000 before the first game.
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tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 5000 (September 20th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9258 (September 20th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15905 (Septmber 20th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th)
Those are really healthy numbers. =d>
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George_Worst wrote:tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 5000 (September 20th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9258 (September 20th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15905 (Septmber 20th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th)
Those are really healthy numbers. =d> :-k :lol:
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We may know AUFC's numbers after 10/10.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football.
- Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals
For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players.
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tbitm wrote:
Victory 16453 (September 25th)
Heart I'm assuming had a great membership drive on the family day if Scott Munn is saying that we should be looking at around 7000 before the first game.
If so, that means the game has grown here - we had 23K in season 3.
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Newcastle now sitting at 9,743.
Great effort and fantastic to see.
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General Ashnak wrote:We may know AUFC's numbers after 10/10. AU Members Club AGM? beats me why we can't just email Matt Rossi and expect a proper answer?
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Was at the Wanderers game tonight against Bankstown City and they announced the Wanderers have reached 2500 members.
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robstazzz wrote:Was at the Wanderers game tonight against Bankstown City and they announced the Wanderers have reached 2500 members. A solid but slightly disappointing figure
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RJL25 wrote:Glory Recruit wrote:So how many do Brisbane have atm? Scouse is claiming inside knowledge on 5,000+ Last year we went from 1,800 to 4,400 which is a really good increase, if we could continue on to 6,000 this year then I'd be happy Joffa wrote:robstazzz wrote:Was at the Wanderers game tonight against Bankstown City and they announced the Wanderers have reached 2500 members. A solid but slightly disappointing figure Hmm, may've been a slow down since SydneyCroatia and Mack were talking circa 2k a month or so ago? But look - Guys, it just shows the hard yards involved! They don't grow on trees! People are talking 7k for Heart too - wouldn't be surprised to hear calls of 'that's disappointing/crap' there too, let alone for Roar too, who probably still cop a battering - '5k? You kidding?!' They're all growing from '0,' IF that - infact it may be a step to 'even reach 0' such are the struggles to set up and establish a club in this competitive marketplace. There are no givens, no build it and they will come. Less we repeat Gold Coast United all over again. Wanderers, Heart, Roar and the rest need to work, but it's also a 'slow burn.' The good signs I can see is most clubs are making steady, gains on gains and have so last couple seasons. Roar may be coming from a low base, but like RL25 suggested, that's still amazing growth IMHO and shows good signs for Roar heading in the right direction. Some people talk like club's should be getting 9-10k instantly (Not saying you Joffa)?! But for many of these clubs in tougher markets, who had bad starts too, that kind of threshold may still be a season or two away, and even then on the proviso of reasonable success on the field, and continued hard work of it. Like Roar, Sydney and others have experienced, it can be undone if you drop the ball, put prices up or what not. If Wanderers still have 3k members come start of season then that's still a great start, despite the short start up time as club, mixed pre-season and the poor membership culture that still exists in Sydney and which Sydney are still building up from too - Good job they're doing too, pushing record numbers even before talk of ADP! And again, if Wanderers are even half those numbers (3.5/4k), then shows they are still tracking well, given the Sydney landscape! Also - they haven't even taken the park yet - many would be pundits may be 'waiting and see' - it's during the season and second season Wanderers may start to see some more added on gains as good word of mouth spreads, friends bring friends, positive rep grows? Football fans in the West are no mugs - The Wanderers will have to prove themselves and that means playing some decent football and hosting a good, positive, occasion at every Parra game they host. This is 'bottom up' growth stuff. Not insta-grow - that was always the plan with this one, slow and steady. Aslong as steady IS steady - something is happening, work is being done! Club may be small operation - club itself may expand as it naturally grows, they can only do so much with the handful of people they probably have at the moment? Ali07 wrote:George_Worst wrote:tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 5000 (September 20th)
Central Coast 2300 (August 10th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9258 (September 20th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 7000 (September 9th)
Victory 15905 (Septmber 20th)
Wellington ?
West Sydney 2000 (September 12th)
Those are really healthy numbers. =d> :-k :lol: Phoenix seem to be a mystery of the cosmos, don't they? I saw Herbert's 50% growth comment on TWG too, that week or two ago - I presume that may mean a figure around 3k - but that's purely from my rear! But presuming they had 1.5k before, that makes sense. Or even from 1k to 2k. I doubt their member base would be more than 4k, though you never know?! :o I wonder how big their 'Yellow Fever' fan group is - they would contribute a fair chunk to that member base, you'd think? Edited by gloryperth: 28/9/2012 04:15:56 AM
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People are quick to forget that thanks to Archie Fraser's price hike a few years ago, about half our membership base up and left. We went from ~3k down to 1.5k and stayed there for a couple of years. Nobody should overlook what an excellent effort it's been to raise it from there to the level it is at.
Of course, now sustainable, long-term policies are in place on and off the pitch, that number can only grow.
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scouse_roar wrote:People are quick to forget that thanks to Archie Fraser's price hike a few years ago, about half our membership base up and left. We went from ~3k down to 1.5k and stayed there for a couple of years. Nobody should overlook what an excellent effort it's been to raise it from there to the level it is at.
Of course, now sustainable, long-term policies are in place on and off the pitch, that number can only grow. 10K crowds is the pass mark for WSW. If Brisbane can have 3K members and average 15K, no reason Wanderers can average 10K with 2.5K members
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ozboy wrote:scouse_roar wrote:People are quick to forget that thanks to Archie Fraser's price hike a few years ago, about half our membership base up and left. We went from ~3k down to 1.5k and stayed there for a couple of years. Nobody should overlook what an excellent effort it's been to raise it from there to the level it is at.
Of course, now sustainable, long-term policies are in place on and off the pitch, that number can only grow. 10K crowds is the pass mark for WSW. If Brisbane can have 3K members and average 15K, no reason Wanderers can average 10K with 2.5K members Absolutely. Brisbane and both Sydney clubs will likely have similar member/crowd ratios (may be skewed temporarily for SFC with Del Piero, but going on past numbers), have similar lack of membership culture in those cities. Hopefully bodes well for our crowds this season working off such a high membership base compared to the past.
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Great thing for WSW too is Parra Stadium - only 20k-ish and I foresee a very similar scenario mirroring Melbourne Victory when they were at Olympic Park. Though ofcourse Victory's memberships were near filling Olympic Park on their own by time of the move to Telstra and then their own stadium. Obviously Wanderers may take quite a while to track that far if at all. But it's still achievable! Especially with so many NSW rivalries - Mariners, Jets and SFC - that's 3 home games a season where the full house sign should be instantly up! Not to be a downer though - but some will rightly argue some of these 'new members' Roar and SFC are signing up with their 'record numbers' are fans who are regulars anyway on regular tickets or what not. Clearly not ALL are - but I mean to say some are regulars anyway, just are buying memberships, getting into being a fully fledged member now, or even again? Heck - that's still not a bad thing or what ever, all win-win, but I mean to say it's not exactly '+1' on the crowd average, but maybe a 'move across.' But don't worry, I understand, the guaranteed income of the fan buying the membership etc definitely helps make a difference as too helps reflect better the club's fan base and level of success converting casuals into fans. But flipside again - With the levels of growth at both clubs and the factors behind that, esp Roar with their success, you definitely get a sense many you are converting could be from all sorts of backgrounds including a few genuinely new fans who came on-board Ange era perhaps? And Sydney too - they were lax in the past, but have been working more on memberships the past few seasons, so their hard work pays off more now. The difference is in thousands here and even in terms of significant % here - figures and terms like 25%, 40% growth and what not. It's not just a growth of a few hundred or even a k, it's significant. Still 'low base' does factor in a little though, especially with Roar. Potential, capacity, take up only being exploited now. Once you get to a certain mark, probably that 9-10k mark, then you might see slower growth over the seasons as you enter the true 'needing to convert/new fans' market phase or what not that the 'Southern Clubs' have been in the last few seasons. So you guys certainly are playing 'catch up' in some ways. scouse_roar wrote:People are quick to forget that thanks to Archie Fraser's price hike a few years ago, about half our membership base up and left. We went from ~3k down to 1.5k and stayed there for a couple of years. Nobody should overlook what an excellent effort it's been to raise it from there to the level it is at.
Of course, now sustainable, long-term policies are in place on and off the pitch, that number can only grow. Oh yeah - but that was Archie Fraser's doing?! Did not know that! I thought it was related to the cost of stadium rent at Suncorp and that didn't change till the FFA had to intervene and suddenly the Stadium agreement was re-negotiated? GCU had same problems at Skilled too. I was only looking at a list of Roar attendances other day, thanks to this thread and indeed, once more reflects that notorious period - it can be so hard to win fans back once you've put them off like that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisbane_Roar_FC_records_and_statistics#Home_attendances_by_seasonYour team is STILL only JUST recovering from that disaster of a decision. Thankfully you had Ange's era of success and it's got your team on track. Bakries being owners too gives a stability and independence you struggled for during that era of financial struggles/Coffee Club leaving and owner uncertainty. Just realised too - You had nearly a quarter of a million fans in total turn out last season. You are on track to meet and maybe even exceed that cumulative total this season. IF you guys meet the circ 18k crowd average of season 3 then you may draw even 30-40k more than last season! What also, EVEN MORE impressive about last season was that your minimum crowd was your highest 'lowest attendance' second only to season two - 9,200 fans with Season two being 10k mark. Season 2/3 is even more extra-ordinary when you compare to the Membership increase and other factors that drove down the overall average to below the crowd minimum of Season 2 even and that Season 5 8k-ish average was nearly a full 10k below the record 18.5k of Season 3, just two season before. And with a member base higher than ever and growing, things sure should look promising for your team. Edited by gloryperth: 28/9/2012 08:07:10 AM
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Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 5000 (September 20th)
Central Coast 3000 (September 26th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9902 (September 28th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 8000 (September 24th)
Victory 16800 (September 28th)
Wellington 3000 (September 28th)
West Sydney 2500 (September 27th)
Btw the Wellington number isn't accurate just basing it on someone saying last year when they bought tickets before the game and the PAX started at 2000 so 2000x1.5 = 3000 so it is a very rough estimate
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tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 5000 (September 20th)
Central Coast 3000 (September 26th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9902 (September 28th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 8000 (September 24th)
Victory 16800 (September 28th)
Wellington 3000 (September 28th)
West Sydney 2500 (September 27th)
Btw the Wellington number isn't accurate just basing it on someone saying last year when they bought tickets before the game and the PAX started at 2000 so 2000x1.5 = 3000 so it is a very rough estimate i thought WSW were suppose to have thousands upon thousands ready to be signed up.. =d> Edited by tribina: 28/9/2012 09:07:09 PM
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ozboy wrote:scouse_roar wrote:People are quick to forget that thanks to Archie Fraser's price hike a few years ago, about half our membership base up and left. We went from ~3k down to 1.5k and stayed there for a couple of years. Nobody should overlook what an excellent effort it's been to raise it from there to the level it is at.
Of course, now sustainable, long-term policies are in place on and off the pitch, that number can only grow. 10K crowds is the pass mark for WSW. If Brisbane can have 3K members and average 15K, no reason Wanderers can average 10K with 2.5K members They won't average 10k, probably crowds around the 7k mark i reckon.
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scouse_roar wrote:People are quick to forget that thanks to Archie Fraser's price hike a few years ago, about half our membership base up and left. We went from ~3k down to 1.5k and stayed there for a couple of years. Nobody should overlook what an excellent effort it's been to raise it from there to the level it is at.
Of course, now sustainable, long-term policies are in place on and off the pitch, that number can only grow. Totally agree. Will never forget the drivel and spin Fraser produced when he went on this site when he was questioned about the price hike. He almost single handedly destroyed your club. It was yuck to see your club go from playing Sydney in season 2-3 getting 18-25,000 to 7,000 matches which was one of your biggest rivals. Thank god you guys had some on field success. Those few who stuck around certaintly deserved it ;) I think loyal Perth fans may be the next in line. Edited by aussie pride: 29/9/2012 12:54:03 PM
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Any news on what Adelaide's updated numbers are - It's been a while since their figure was updated. Strange if it remains so low - I thought Perth and Adelaide would be similar in terms of member numbers, maybe even AU slightly highly, given their A-L success, loyal following/good avg attendances and, like Glory, that history rooted in a time before the A-League, so that additional establishment. Though I think some AU people here DID say they're tracking for 4-5 and THAT would sound about right. Shame if numbers down for them though.
Also - Given how the Jets and Victory update us so well on their member numbers, I know the numbers for the rest aren't THAT much to crow about, but with new team Wanderers - their being FFA owned ftm - I'm kind of surprised we don't 'seem' to hear any updates from them, in this regard. But it could be partially because they're consumed elsewhere. I just remember the A-League4Canberra site too, they updated quite frequently whenever new foundation members were signed. It got kind of exciting seeing that list of 1k, then 2k build up. And given Wanderers are new, it could be quite exciting for them too?
Just a post on the official site, FB notice, tweet or something, c'mon? Aka 'We passed the 3k members mark, yipee!' or something. Same goes for the other clubs too tbh, except maybe Glory who have their particular circumstances this year and infact seek compensation from the State Govt. inpart, due to the natural cap of members the reduced stadium capacity induces.
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GloryPerth wrote:
I just remember the A-League4Canberra site too, they updated quite frequently whenever new foundation members were signed. It got kind of exciting seeing that list of 1k, then 2k build up. And given Wanderers are new, it could be quite exciting for them too?
Edited by gloryperth: 30/9/2012 05:21:14 AM Would be embarrassing if the Canberra theoretical bid for the a-league pulled more foundation members than the concrete football heartland that is western Sydney....
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GloryPerth wrote:
Oh yeah - but that was Archie Fraser's doing?! Did not know that! I thought it was related to the cost of stadium rent at Suncorp and that didn't change till the FFA had to intervene and suddenly the Stadium agreement was re-negotiated? GCU had same problems at Skilled too.
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The price hike was definitely an FFA decision. Basically our club was being financially screwed by Stadiums Queensland, so your right there, and the Roar asked for the FFA's help in renegotiating the deal, so yes that all happened, but as part of all of that the Roar asked the FFA for a financial loan to pay debts, which was granted but the FFA made that conditional of a major increase in ticket prices and membership prices to help recover the FFA's money more quickly. Lasted only half a season, by the end of the season they were offering tickets for only $5 in the corners of the stadium to try and desperately get the fans back, but the damage was already done. Your absolutely right in saying that right to this very day, we are still receiving from that fuck up by the FFA!
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RJL25 wrote:GloryPerth wrote:
Oh yeah - but that was Archie Fraser's doing?! Did not know that! I thought it was related to the cost of stadium rent at Suncorp and that didn't change till the FFA had to intervene and suddenly the Stadium agreement was re-negotiated? GCU had same problems at Skilled too.
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The price hike was definitely an FFA decision. Basically our club was being financially screwed by Stadiums Queensland, so your right there, and the Roar asked for the FFA's help in renegotiating the deal, so yes that all happened, but as part of all of that the Roar asked the FFA for a financial loan to pay debts, which was granted but the FFA made that conditional of a major increase in ticket prices and membership prices to help recover the FFA's money more quickly. Lasted only half a season, by the end of the season they were offering tickets for only $5 in the corners of the stadium to try and desperately get the fans back, but the damage was already done. Your absolutely right in saying that right to this very day, we are still receiving from that fuck up by the FFA! Well, the FFA didn't sign the original stadia deal with Suncorp, the FFA didn't choose Suncorp over a much cheaper Ballymore, you can't blame the FFA for your clubs own mistakes. Edited by Joffa: 30/9/2012 11:42:00 AM
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Joffa wrote:RJL25 wrote:GloryPerth wrote:
Oh yeah - but that was Archie Fraser's doing?! Did not know that! I thought it was related to the cost of stadium rent at Suncorp and that didn't change till the FFA had to intervene and suddenly the Stadium agreement was re-negotiated? GCU had same problems at Skilled too.
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The price hike was definitely an FFA decision. Basically our club was being financially screwed by Stadiums Queensland, so your right there, and the Roar asked for the FFA's help in renegotiating the deal, so yes that all happened, but as part of all of that the Roar asked the FFA for a financial loan to pay debts, which was granted but the FFA made that conditional of a major increase in ticket prices and membership prices to help recover the FFA's money more quickly. Lasted only half a season, by the end of the season they were offering tickets for only $5 in the corners of the stadium to try and desperately get the fans back, but the damage was already done. Your absolutely right in saying that right to this very day, we are still receiving from that fuck up by the FFA! Well, the FFA didn't sign the original stadia deal with Suncorp, the FFA didn't choose Suncorp over a much cheaper Ballymore, you can't blame the FFA for your clubs own mistakes. Edited by Joffa: 30/9/2012 11:42:00 AM Thanks for that RL25 and that's harsh Joffa - I'm sure you have heard how bad Ballymore is, location, transport and facilities wise? It's the home of Rugby Union in Brisbane but apparently not even the Reds play there any more. Suncorp is the premium rectangle venue in the city, located right near the centre, with good public transport, surrounding entertainment and places to eat, lots of parking. Aside from the Stadium's QLD deal RL25 described the only major problem 'seems' to be that the stadium is just 20k too overlarge. And I think/presume that's a fair chunk of the reason why Stadium QLD 'rip off' Roar and GCU because they are playing in these over large, premium venues. And Stadium's QLD are seeking the rent to make up for the tax payer's expense in building or upgrading these huge venues where RL/Rugby only occupies them half the year. One can argue that a Brisbane based franchise has little choice but Suncorp as it's positives are hard to deny and there's hardly any more suitable venues, short term. IMHO though med-longer term Roar could get their own 'Victory-like' Boutique stadium, but then again, if they're drawing like Victory are, by then, and like 'they can do' then that = 20-25k crowd average, which is quite impressive, Suncorp at 50% capacity on average and we know Roar's biggest drawing games have exceeded 30k cap. So Roar could easily 'grow into' their stadium. And since that ticketing debacle we've heard less or even 0 complaints from Roar and others about the tenancy agreement with Stadiums QLD. As suggested, seems the FFA did help them in re-negotiating the deal and I even recall the Roar CEO last season saying something along the lines of the average attendance needed to break even per game is a lower mark around 12k which is a few thousand less at the very least, than before. FFA also helped out GCU in this regard, but by then too little, too late and ofcourse GCU was screwed from get go thanks to Palmer's arrogant trouble making.
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GloryPerth wrote:Joffa wrote:RJL25 wrote:GloryPerth wrote:
Oh yeah - but that was Archie Fraser's doing?! Did not know that! I thought it was related to the cost of stadium rent at Suncorp and that didn't change till the FFA had to intervene and suddenly the Stadium agreement was re-negotiated? GCU had same problems at Skilled too.
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The price hike was definitely an FFA decision. Basically our club was being financially screwed by Stadiums Queensland, so your right there, and the Roar asked for the FFA's help in renegotiating the deal, so yes that all happened, but as part of all of that the Roar asked the FFA for a financial loan to pay debts, which was granted but the FFA made that conditional of a major increase in ticket prices and membership prices to help recover the FFA's money more quickly. Lasted only half a season, by the end of the season they were offering tickets for only $5 in the corners of the stadium to try and desperately get the fans back, but the damage was already done. Your absolutely right in saying that right to this very day, we are still receiving from that fuck up by the FFA! Well, the FFA didn't sign the original stadia deal with Suncorp, the FFA didn't choose Suncorp over a much cheaper Ballymore, you can't blame the FFA for your clubs own mistakes. Edited by Joffa: 30/9/2012 11:42:00 AM Thanks for that RL25 and that's harsh Joffa - I'm sure you have heard how bad Ballymore is, location, transport and facilities wise? It's the home of Rugby Union in Brisbane but apparently not even the Reds play there any more. Suncorp is the premium rectangle venue in the city, located right near the centre, with good public transport, surrounding entertainment and places to eat, lots of parking. Aside from the Stadium's QLD deal RL25 described the only major problem 'seems' to be that the stadium is just 20k too overlarge. And I think/presume that's a fair chunk of the reason why Stadium QLD 'rip off' Roar and GCU because they are playing in these over large, premium venues. And Stadium's QLD are seeking the rent to make up for the tax payer's expense in building or upgrading these huge venues where RL/Rugby only occupies them half the year. One can argue that a Brisbane based franchise has little choice but Suncorp as it's positives are hard to deny and there's hardly any more suitable venues, short term. IMHO though med-longer term Roar could get their own 'Victory-like' Boutique stadium, but then again, if they're drawing like Victory are, by then, and like 'they can do' then that = 20-25k crowd average, which is quite impressive, Suncorp at 50% capacity on average and we know Roar's biggest drawing games have exceeded 30k cap. So Roar could easily 'grow into' their stadium. And since that ticketing debacle we've heard less or even 0 complaints from Roar and others about the tenancy agreement with Stadiums QLD. As suggested, seems the FFA did help them in re-negotiating the deal and I even recall the Roar CEO last season saying something along the lines of the average attendance needed to break even per game is a lower mark around 12k which is a few thousand less at the very least, than before. FFA also helped out GCU in this regard, but by then too little, too late and ofcourse GCU was screwed from get go thanks to Palmer's arrogant trouble making. Yeah, my comments came across a lot harsher than intended, my bad.
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Joffa wrote:RJL25 wrote:GloryPerth wrote:
Oh yeah - but that was Archie Fraser's doing?! Did not know that! I thought it was related to the cost of stadium rent at Suncorp and that didn't change till the FFA had to intervene and suddenly the Stadium agreement was re-negotiated? GCU had same problems at Skilled too.
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The price hike was definitely an FFA decision. Basically our club was being financially screwed by Stadiums Queensland, so your right there, and the Roar asked for the FFA's help in renegotiating the deal, so yes that all happened, but as part of all of that the Roar asked the FFA for a financial loan to pay debts, which was granted but the FFA made that conditional of a major increase in ticket prices and membership prices to help recover the FFA's money more quickly. Lasted only half a season, by the end of the season they were offering tickets for only $5 in the corners of the stadium to try and desperately get the fans back, but the damage was already done. Your absolutely right in saying that right to this very day, we are still receiving from that fuck up by the FFA! Well, the FFA didn't sign the original stadia deal with Suncorp, the FFA didn't choose Suncorp over a much cheaper Ballymore, you can't blame the FFA for your clubs own mistakes. Edited by Joffa: 30/9/2012 11:42:00 AM Sigh... I was just clearing something up for GloryPerth as to what the background of that decision was, I'm not blaming the FFA for the Roar's problems, I'm simply saying that that decision had disastrous consequences for the club and it WAS the FFA's decision. The original management at the Roar made many mistakes, the stadium deal probably the biggest, and no doubt are the reason the club struggled so much financially, however they DID do an excellent job with crowds, averaging over 15k consistently, almost 17k in season 3 and the second best attended club for the first 3 seasons. The price hike just before season 4 undid all that good work and trashed the only good thing the club had going for it off the park, and yes that CAN be blamed on the FFA!! As for Ballymore, please, don't make me laugh. It was NEVER an option, the Reds own the ground and they don't even play there! It's fucked mate, fucked facilities and zero public transport and zero parking! Joffa, it's unusual for you to talk about shit you know nothing about, so don't start!
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RJL25 wrote:Joffa wrote:RJL25 wrote:GloryPerth wrote:
Oh yeah - but that was Archie Fraser's doing?! Did not know that! I thought it was related to the cost of stadium rent at Suncorp and that didn't change till the FFA had to intervene and suddenly the Stadium agreement was re-negotiated? GCU had same problems at Skilled too.
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The price hike was definitely an FFA decision. Basically our club was being financially screwed by Stadiums Queensland, so your right there, and the Roar asked for the FFA's help in renegotiating the deal, so yes that all happened, but as part of all of that the Roar asked the FFA for a financial loan to pay debts, which was granted but the FFA made that conditional of a major increase in ticket prices and membership prices to help recover the FFA's money more quickly. Lasted only half a season, by the end of the season they were offering tickets for only $5 in the corners of the stadium to try and desperately get the fans back, but the damage was already done. Your absolutely right in saying that right to this very day, we are still receiving from that fuck up by the FFA! Well, the FFA didn't sign the original stadia deal with Suncorp, the FFA didn't choose Suncorp over a much cheaper Ballymore, you can't blame the FFA for your clubs own mistakes. Edited by Joffa: 30/9/2012 11:42:00 AM Sigh... I was just clearing something up for GloryPerth as to what the background of that decision was, I'm not blaming the FFA for the Roar's problems, I'm simply saying that that decision had disastrous consequences for the club and it WAS the FFA's decision. The original management at the Roar made many mistakes, the stadium deal probably the biggest, and no doubt are the reason the club struggled so much financially, however they DID do an excellent job with crowds, averaging over 15k consistently, almost 17k in season 3 and the second best attended club for the first 3 seasons. The price hike just before season 4 undid all that good work and trashed the only good thing the club had going for it off the park, and yes that CAN be blamed on the FFA!! As for Ballymore, please, don't make me laugh. It was NEVER an option, the Reds own the ground and they don't even play there! It's fucked mate, fucked facilities and zero public transport and zero parking! Joffa, it's unusual for you to talk about shit you know nothing about, so don't start! I totally agree, like I said I didn't mean for my comment to come across as harsh as it did, I also do agree Suncorp is the best option.
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tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 5000 (September 20th)
Central Coast 3000 (September 26th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 9902 (September 28th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 8000 (September 24th)
Victory 16800 (September 28th)
Wellington 3000 (September 28th)
West Sydney 2500 (September 27th)
Btw the Wellington number isn't accurate just basing it on someone saying last year when they bought tickets before the game and the PAX started at 2000 so 2000x1.5 = 3000 so it is a very rough estimate Phoenix estimate is probably in the ballpark. Last season was something between 1500-2000 after all the off field dramas, but previous seasons have been around the 3k-3.5k mark and think we will be around there again. This season offers great value, NZ$75 cheaper than last season (NZ$175) as an 'early bird' deal and NZ$50 cheaper ($199) if buying now - silver section which is most of the stadium and includes Yellow Fever, Family and Away sections. Nova Energy (Phoenix sponsor) customers can get memberships for NZ$99. Family, Concession and Child memberships have also been reduced drastically and offer great value. Members get 1 free ticket to give to a mate to one of the first 3 games, new scarf, lanyard, magnet, stickers and playing cards. Last 2 or 3 seasons there was nothing extra thrown in.
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Interesting Bullion - sounds as if you guys are tacking well too! Any news on Adelaide United? RJL25 wrote:Joffa wrote:RJL25 wrote:GloryPerth wrote:
Oh yeah - but that was Archie Fraser's doing?! Did not know that! I thought it was related to the cost of stadium rent at Suncorp and that didn't change till the FFA had to intervene and suddenly the Stadium agreement was re-negotiated? GCU had same problems at Skilled too.
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The price hike was definitely an FFA decision. Basically our club was being financially screwed by Stadiums Queensland, so your right there, and the Roar asked for the FFA's help in renegotiating the deal, so yes that all happened, but as part of all of that the Roar asked the FFA for a financial loan to pay debts, which was granted but the FFA made that conditional of a major increase in ticket prices and membership prices to help recover the FFA's money more quickly. Lasted only half a season, by the end of the season they were offering tickets for only $5 in the corners of the stadium to try and desperately get the fans back, but the damage was already done. Your absolutely right in saying that right to this very day, we are still receiving from that fuck up by the FFA! Well, the FFA didn't sign the original stadia deal with Suncorp, the FFA didn't choose Suncorp over a much cheaper Ballymore, you can't blame the FFA for your clubs own mistakes. Edited by Joffa: 30/9/2012 11:42:00 AM Sigh... I was just clearing something up for GloryPerth as to what the background of that decision was, I'm not blaming the FFA for the Roar's problems, I'm simply saying that that decision had disastrous consequences for the club and it WAS the FFA's decision. The original management at the Roar made many mistakes, the stadium deal probably the biggest, and no doubt are the reason the club struggled so much financially, however they DID do an excellent job with crowds, averaging over 15k consistently, almost 17k in season 3 and the second best attended club for the first 3 seasons. The price hike just before season 4 undid all that good work and trashed the only good thing the club had going for it off the park, and yes that CAN be blamed on the FFA!! I really think, that even DESPITE being at massive Suncorp, you guys somehow could grow into your stadium. I mean the Season 3 average of 18.5k and that included some season high crowds of 30k-ish - If you guys reach and even exceed slightly, that mark again, which seems entirely possible, then Suncorp could more and more become an 'appropriate venue' for you guys, as unlikely as that sounds. Especially if you keep making finals, where you near pack the house and ofcourse did for the last couple Grand Finals you hosted! It could become not too unlike Victory at Telstra Dome in that way too (Not just Boutique scenario) - That stadium is a bit overlarge too, but you notice less, matter's less, when Victory have 25-30k+ crowds there. Edited by gloryperth: 1/10/2012 01:44:13 PM
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Stadiums QLD screwed the HAL for every cent they could and killed NQF and GCU. Thanks Bligh, you bitch. The QLD govt also made Ballymore unusable by refusing to provide public transport, security and opposing it on every admin issue they could, forcing the QRU to abandon a ground they own and cop a huge loss at Lang Park. The Broncos are also slugged more than any other team in Australia.
Strangely enough the VFL temas in QLD were actually given bundles of cash by Bligh. I am sure it has NOTHING to do with the millions that Demetriou shovels to the ALP, nothing at all.
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Crusader wrote:Stadiums QLD screwed the HAL for every cent they could and killed NQF and GCU. Thanks Bligh, you bitch. The QLD govt also made Ballymore unusable by refusing to provide public transport, security and opposing it on every admin issue they could, forcing the QRU to abandon a ground they own and cop a huge loss at Lang Park. The Broncos are also slugged more than any other team in Australia.
Strangely enough the VFL temas in QLD were actually given bundles of cash by Bligh. I am sure it has NOTHING to do with the millions that Demetriou shovels to the ALP, nothing at all. Bligh is a season ticket holder at the Roar....
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Blackmac79 wrote:Crusader wrote:Stadiums QLD screwed the HAL for every cent they could and killed NQF and GCU. Thanks Bligh, you bitch. The QLD govt also made Ballymore unusable by refusing to provide public transport, security and opposing it on every admin issue they could, forcing the QRU to abandon a ground they own and cop a huge loss at Lang Park. The Broncos are also slugged more than any other team in Australia.
Strangely enough the VFL temas in QLD were actually given bundles of cash by Bligh. I am sure it has NOTHING to do with the millions that Demetriou shovels to the ALP, nothing at all. Bligh is a season ticket holder at the Roar.... Not anymore, she's moving to Sydney to run for the NSW ALP. Consider yourselfs warned, this women is poison!
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GloryPerth wrote:Interesting Bullion - sounds as if you guys are tacking well too! Any news on Adelaide United? RJL25 wrote:Joffa wrote:RJL25 wrote:GloryPerth wrote:
Oh yeah - but that was Archie Fraser's doing?! Did not know that! I thought it was related to the cost of stadium rent at Suncorp and that didn't change till the FFA had to intervene and suddenly the Stadium agreement was re-negotiated? GCU had same problems at Skilled too.
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The price hike was definitely an FFA decision. Basically our club was being financially screwed by Stadiums Queensland, so your right there, and the Roar asked for the FFA's help in renegotiating the deal, so yes that all happened, but as part of all of that the Roar asked the FFA for a financial loan to pay debts, which was granted but the FFA made that conditional of a major increase in ticket prices and membership prices to help recover the FFA's money more quickly. Lasted only half a season, by the end of the season they were offering tickets for only $5 in the corners of the stadium to try and desperately get the fans back, but the damage was already done. Your absolutely right in saying that right to this very day, we are still receiving from that fuck up by the FFA! Well, the FFA didn't sign the original stadia deal with Suncorp, the FFA didn't choose Suncorp over a much cheaper Ballymore, you can't blame the FFA for your clubs own mistakes. Edited by Joffa: 30/9/2012 11:42:00 AM Sigh... I was just clearing something up for GloryPerth as to what the background of that decision was, I'm not blaming the FFA for the Roar's problems, I'm simply saying that that decision had disastrous consequences for the club and it WAS the FFA's decision. The original management at the Roar made many mistakes, the stadium deal probably the biggest, and no doubt are the reason the club struggled so much financially, however they DID do an excellent job with crowds, averaging over 15k consistently, almost 17k in season 3 and the second best attended club for the first 3 seasons. The price hike just before season 4 undid all that good work and trashed the only good thing the club had going for it off the park, and yes that CAN be blamed on the FFA!! I really think, that even DESPITE being at massive Suncorp, you guys somehow could grow into your stadium. I mean the Season 3 average of 18.5k and that included some season high crowds of 30k-ish - If you guys reach and even exceed slightly, that mark again, which seems entirely possible, then Suncorp could more and more become an 'appropriate venue' for you guys, as unlikely as that sounds. Especially if you keep making finals, where you near pack the house and ofcourse did for the last couple Grand Finals you hosted! It could become not too unlike Victory at Telstra Dome in that way too (Not just Boutique scenario) - That stadium is a bit overlarge too, but you notice less, matter's less, when Victory have 25-30k+ crowds there. Edited by gloryperth: 1/10/2012 01:44:13 PM Perhaps they could look to MLSs Seattle Sounders for inspiration and tarp off the upper deck to artificially create a more practically sized stadium to help the supply /demand equation for their membership dept.
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Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 5000 (September 20th)
Central Coast 3000 (September 26th)
Heart 4000 (September 12th)
Newcastle 10700 (October 7th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 8000 (September 24th)
Victory 17503 (October 6th)
Wellington 3000 (September 28th)
West Sydney 3000 (October 6th)
Really hope newcastle is still able to get 300 more in the coming days
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schimch wrote:GloryPerth wrote:
I just remember the A-League4Canberra site too, they updated quite frequently whenever new foundation members were signed. It got kind of exciting seeing that list of 1k, then 2k build up. And given Wanderers are new, it could be quite exciting for them too?
Edited by gloryperth: 30/9/2012 05:21:14 AM Would be embarrassing if the Canberra theoretical bid for the a-league pulled more foundation members than the concrete football heartland that is western Sydney.... Yeah but what would it cost to become a Canberra foundation member? $20-30?
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at work wrote:schimch wrote:GloryPerth wrote:
I just remember the A-League4Canberra site too, they updated quite frequently whenever new foundation members were signed. It got kind of exciting seeing that list of 1k, then 2k build up. And given Wanderers are new, it could be quite exciting for them too?
Edited by gloryperth: 30/9/2012 05:21:14 AM Would be embarrassing if the Canberra theoretical bid for the a-league pulled more foundation members than the concrete football heartland that is western Sydney.... Yeah but what would it cost to become a Canberra foundation member? $20-30? I believe it was $200 - maybe you are thinking of the Central Coast Bears RL team!!
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Melbourne Heart FC Members: 4750 (October 4)
according to their latest newsletter.
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imonfourfourtwo wrote:Melbourne Heart FC Members: 4750 (October 4)
according to their latest newsletter. I heard Scott Munn on SEN on last thursday saying they had well over 5000.
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 We at the Central Coast Mariners are looking to make Hyundai A-League Season 8 our best yet, both on and off the field. So, we have set ourselves a goal to reach 5,000 Members by the start of the season, and we need your help to get us there! Help us reach 5,000 Members by signing up today and you could win yourself a Lifetime Membership* so you can continue your dedicated support the Central Coast Mariners for years to come. Already signed-up for Season 8? Spread the word to your friends and family about the great benefits of being a Central Coast Mariners Member, plus the passion and excitement that runs through your body each and every time the Yellow and Navy hit the back of the net at Bluetongue Stadium! And don't worry, everyone who signs up for a Season 8 Membership (even if you did it months ago) will be in the running to win the Mariners Lifetime Membership! Our new packages for 2012/13 are on sale now, with the great benefits of last season…and more! There is a Membership package to suit everyone, including 3 and 6 game Memberships, and part payment plans also available. Browse our Membership packages and purchase online, or, if you have more questions give our Membership Team a call on 4353 7200 and we'll help find the right package to suit you! WE ARE MARINERS! *Terms and Conditions apply
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http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/newcastlejets/news-display/Jets-pass-11000-Members/49907Jets have reached their target of 11,000 members today! Tally is at 11,007. I feel very proud to be part of a football region that shows such strong commitment to our club. Well done Newcastle & the Hunter.
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Well done Newcastle.
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Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 5000 (September 20th)
Central Coast 3000 (September 26th)
Heart 4750 (October 4th)
Newcastle 11007 (October 9th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 8000 (September 24th)
Victory 17758 (October 6th)
Wellington 3000 (October 8th)
West Sydney 3000 (October 6th)
Not sure if i believe scott munn saying were over 5000 after saying we're on track to hit 7000. as much as id like to be wrong
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Ah nice, Mariners have their own little measuring, update, pic too, hehe. 3k out of 5k, seems to be tracking well - and the target mark would be a club record for them, right? STILL no news/update on Adelaide? They MUST BE double that, near 4k-ish, by now? tbitm wrote:Adelaide 2000 (August 10th)
Brisbane 5000 (September 20th)
Central Coast 3000 (September 26th)
Heart 4750 (October 4th)
Newcastle 11007 (October 9th)
Perth 5000 (August 10th)
Sydney 8000 (September 24th)
Victory 17758 (October 6th)
Wellington 3000 (October 8th)
West Sydney 3000 (October 6th)
Not sure if i believe scott munn saying were over 5000 after saying we're on track to hit 7000. as much as id like to be wrong asanchez wrote:imonfourfourtwo wrote:Melbourne Heart FC Members: 4750 (October 4)
according to their latest newsletter. I heard Scott Munn on SEN on last thursday saying they had well over 5000. The Newsletter's info could be a little dated - that could be from a couple days before or even earlier, whenever they compile and then publish it? And if there's a weekend between then, then ofcourse a few people working for Heart and what not would not be working - But more members might be being signed up? On the other side, in comparison - Scott Munn's info would be 'right up to the minute' you'd think, from that same day, being at Heart's HQ, the calls coming in, or what not. The difference is only 250 members or so - So, in theory, a couple hundred could be signed in half a week. But yeah, take the newsletter's exact figure on it and if Munn isn't exaggerating too much, they're tracking, then 'the next newsletter' may reflect an over 5k figure?
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Congrats to the SCUM on reaching 11000. Great to see the community getting behind your team.
Now as for us.........
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This thread has dropped 7 pages back and hasn't been updated in a while, especially numbers wise. We're now into the second week of the A-League season, so we should be having a much better idea or better update, of the latest member numbers?
Especially keen to see where Adelaide United and Wanderers are at now - They should be both pretty much double the last confirmed figures, surely both are around the 4k ballpark?
Hmm curious to see how Sydney and Brisbane are doing too - it's been a few weeks since last update there. SFC may even have a thousand more members now, could be pushing that wonderful 10k mark? Especially as ADP effect really starts to kick in. And who knows - Roar could be pushing that thousand more too now?
One wonders how the Mariners are tracking for their 5k target - only 2k off going by last report?
There must be a natural bump up circa time of season start too - that may be reflected in the latest figures?
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patjennings wrote:at work wrote:schimch wrote:GloryPerth wrote:
I just remember the A-League4Canberra site too, they updated quite frequently whenever new foundation members were signed. It got kind of exciting seeing that list of 1k, then 2k build up. And given Wanderers are new, it could be quite exciting for them too?
Edited by gloryperth: 30/9/2012 05:21:14 AM Would be embarrassing if the Canberra theoretical bid for the a-league pulled more foundation members than the concrete football heartland that is western Sydney.... Yeah but what would it cost to become a Canberra foundation member? $20-30? I believe it was $200 - maybe you are thinking of the Central Coast Bears RL team!! Shit ay, that's not bad from the Canberrans then. The CC Bears were charging some token amount such as $20-30 from memory Edited by at work: 14/10/2012 11:07:41 AM
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Came across this last night. Quote:Our goal is to be the best club in Australia. In 2013, we need 10,000 members to make this a reality. Join us and make the assist! The new One Goal areas in the Eastern stand are a sign of our further commitment to the Brisbane football community. By nominating a club, members can enjoy reduced pricing in an area that’s all about local football. The South end of Suncorp Stadium will take on a stronger identity with the new designated Family End. Members can choose the flexibility of General Admission seating, Reserved seating or unlicensed. Kids now have more options with our extended $50 kids season membership but also the new $80 Plus kids membership. Benefits include a fantastic supporter pack and a members only Roar Active Program training session. The world newest members can now be the worlds newest Roar members. Our Lil Roary membership is the perfect gift for kids under 2. Brisbane Roar 2013/14 Memberships on sale Monday 18 February 2013! http://www.roarmemberships.com/ Good to see the club getting in early for the next season.
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Sorry for big bump, but this is for completism: Quote:http://www.a-league.com.au/article/club-members-the-heart-and-soul-of-a-league/1r497ylftwd1o1vml36sxjig01[size=9]Club members the heart and soul of A-League[/size] Monday, [size=6] 23 June 2014[/size] - Staff '... If you-re a member, you-re one of 96,641 people who have set a record this Season 9. That number is an all-time high for club membership and a massive 32% increase on Season 8. ... The percentage growth figures for individual clubs speak for themselves - Wanderers up 141%, Mariners up 68%, Roar up 52%. Meanwhile, Victory added 19% to their member ranks to have over 22,000 paid-up and proud supporters, the biggest membership in the competition. Sydney FC cracked the 10,000-mark for the first time by lifting membership by 28% and Adelaide United jumped by 23% while the Jets continue to have over 10,000 proud Novocastrians signed up on their membership roster. Clear growth as well for Heart, Glory and Phoenix has helped Season 9 to be the most successful and vibrant season yet for club membership. ...' Estimates, based on above, utilising the more well sourced 2013/14 figures, a calculator and here: http://www.percentagecalculator.net/ (My maths isn't great and/or I'm rusty) Feel free to double-check my results or investigate for yourselves! Season 2012/13 Adelaide United: ~5,200? Brisbane Roar: ~5,337? Central Coast Mariners: ~3,548? Melbourne Heart: 6,583 Melbourne Victory: ~18,505? (Not sure where the 18,767 figure comes from? +Pet Members?!) Newcastle Jets: *11,007 Perth Glory : 5,000 (-ish, Capped during that season, due to stadium renovation) Sydney FC: ~8,470? Wellington Phoenix: ~3,000?! Western Sydney Wanderers: ~7,014? TOTAL: ~73,500?! (MAXIMUM, that leaves room for a 31.6% increase to be added, for the 2013/14 season) * http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2012/10/09/jets-fly-past-11000-markI think I'm still some way off, as reports of the membership level WSW achieve vary greatly from between 6,500 right up to 7,500. My estimate, going from the stated percentage increase for WSW in 2013/14, sits around inbetween. For some reason, Adelaide United rate a bit higher, even though anecdotally, they shouldn't be and some fans had them around 4,500 for that season. I just got that rough figure from again, deducing from the percentage increase for AU. Flipside, Brisbane Roar had as many as 6,500 Members in Season 2012/13, according to anecdotal from fans. But the FFA states a '52%' increase, where a 52% increase with the outcome of the 'provided' 8112 figure for 13/14, means their 12/13 figure must've been sitting in the mid 5ks, as I estimated via the provided percentage. It's possible there are variables like Pet Memberships again - or perhaps Roar's 'Lite Members' aren't included in the FFA's totals? :-k I struggled to squeeze in Phoenix there. Was going to list then a couple hundred lower, but some anecdotal kept re-inforcing they were 3k this season and that could could still match in the above configuration. Again, I came to these results, via the guidelines of FFA's stated percentage increases and the reasonably well source 2013/14 figures above, as too FFA article stated Season 2013/14 total. I wonder how close my deductions are to, the truth? :-k It's entirely possible that the FFA's Media Department 'rounds-up' some of these percentages, as the point of the article was to spruik the A-League's growth and note how Heart, Glory and Phoenix's percentage gains were not mentioned and also the spin surround Newcastle - who fell short of their record by a thousand, but 'still topped 10k' - which was great, but if we talk in-terms of percentage increase, they were technically down. FTR I checked Heart, due to their reliable figures, and their percentage increase was around a quite reasonable 10%. And it would not remind me if Glory's real numbers were indeed rather stagnant that period. Phoenix too. Both Glory and Phoenix only really pulled their fingers out to grow by another thousand each, in more recent times.
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