http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/2277429884/Newcastle-Jets-preview

the truth of the pudding is in the eating. f he truly selects first team players on technical ability the the academy will produce them.
The results for the academy will take no more than two seasons if their own selection is good.
about time someone said it loud and clear for all the out of step Australian coaches to hear.
Defintly nomixed messages in this interview.=d> =d> =d> =d> =d> =d>

Love the comments about the playing with both feet, something I have never avoided but never focused as heavily on as I should have and neither has any coach I've met. Petty worrying considering the importance of the skill.
Just goes back to the grassroots coaching problem, just not eoungh being done to rectify it by the FFA nore the local federations.
On the subject of having a reserves side the plays the rep teams to show the kids they are fighting for their places is a great idea, something I've always pushed for, I hate seeing the same kids being picked year after year where others who (imo) should be, never getting a proper chance.

I think you will find almost all the AIS graduates pick up a youth contract somewhere or another. Others do go overseas though.
Not sure about the conversion of NTC graduates to A-League youth contracts though.
The problem with going overseas is, as we know, the age barrier. Players must be over 18 to be able to play in Europe without having parents with them. Unless you are Alistair Edwards son it seems. With the AIS concentrating on Joeys U/17 level once they turn 17 and the youth league season is over these kids get turned over for the new lot of Joeys. So they are still to young to travel to Europe on their own. I don't know many people that would or could just sell up and go to Europe. Although I do know someone that has sold up and moved to the UK it is still a difficult move. That lad I mentioned earlier was asked by Wigan to comeback to the UK for an U/16 position but the parents could not make that sacrifice.
In saying all this, there should be more youth players exposed to the highest level of training the country can provide. Whether that be at AIS, NTC's or wherever. Selecting only 15-18 players for these academies is not enough.

Interesting point
Just to add to that i believe a player is better off going to Europe than staying in Australia if he truly wants to make it as a footballer.
Possibly it would be more cost effective, at this time in our football evolution to help players to do this rather than try to run our present system?

Interesting point
Just to add to that i believe a player is better off going to Europe than staying in Australia if he truly wants to make it as a footballer.
Possibly it would be more cost effective, at this time in our football evolution to help players to do this rather than try to run our present system?

As Spathi has brought up the question of selection to the AIS, I have a question related to players selected to pathways.

Has there been a study into what percentage of players selected for the pathways such as Junior National/State teams, AIS, NTC and the Institutes actually make it to the National League level?

And how many make to Senior National Team Level?

By implication is the pouring of resouces into the small number of junior players selected into the pathways worth it? (A cost benefit analysis?)

European coaches are always looking for ability in both feet (i hear them mention it all the time)and never yet have i heard it from Australian coaches.



Interesting you should be talking about youth being able to use both feet. I know a young fellow who can use both feet. He scores with both feet, passes with both feet, crosses with both feet. This lad played in the NTC challenge last December scoring 4 goals in 6 games yet did not get selected for the all star squad and in turn was not asked to join the AIS. Goes to show that either the people involved at the AIS are playing favourites for players from certain states or really don't know talent when they see it. To be honest with you I have not heard of any Australian youth coaches talking about the player needing to have the ability to use both feet either.

That would be Ruiz, but I think you have hit the nail on the head with the KNVB vs Cruyff/Barcelona differences.

Cruyff/Barcelona is mostly about technique (But not 1v1 moves) it is about passing technique (both feet are automatically taught due to high repitition)in tight spaces, SSG's 4v4 preferable with more emphasis on possesion than direct play to score, it is about first touch used with a lateral movement away from your opponenet. And RONDO.

Interesting point again, Krones.

Elite programs usually have the technical and game sense priority.

However, there are some antiquated bastions of the old school still in the system. I can't say too much because many guests lurk on the likes of here. On a number of occasions various stakeholders have noted comments I've made on 442. I've been gobsmacked.:-s

One comment I can make, is that elite coaches are frustrated with the quality of training that is being delivered at club level. There is also a belief that the better educated, and onside, the coaches at club level are, the easier it makes the elite coaches' job.


A recent article by Alex Tobin alluded to the fact that there are 50 Advanced coaches in Japan to Australia's one. Japan has about 6 - 7 times the population so there are about 7 times as many Advanced coaches per capita in Japan as in Australia.

Returning back to your point, Krones, I still talk to Australian coaches nearly everywhere who are still focused on speed, power and strength.](*,)

Interesting point, Krones.

Verbeek was concerned about the lack of coaching players to be both footed in Australia compared to Korea.

A comment from you, reinforced by an ancillary training drill that you entered, has had an effect on my training. Subconsciously I knew i should have been doing it, but you reinforced it.

What is also interesting if one follows many sound training ground exercises, both footedness is inevitably developed, including paired juggling.

As there is such a current trend in the FFA NC to make everything taught in game sense, there is the possibility of players not developing two footedness. The isolated technique is frowned upon ATM in the FFA NC.

From what I can gather, Barca Academy is teaching more explicit technique that the KNVB currently advocates, and the FFA NC definitely does.

Wiel Coerver was a critic of the KNVB, as was Cruyff, and possibly the guy in the article that Arthur posted, whose name currently escapes me. Apparently, he also did a lot of work establishing the Barca Academy.





Edited by Decentric: 3/9/2012 11:29:50 AM

I listen to coaches talk all the time, i hear their differing interests in individual players.
Australian coaches:
strength
speed
Power

European(including English)
Skill
fast feet?????
Game awareness
But the one thing that sets them apart
European coaches are always looking for ability in both feet (i hear them mention it all the time)and never yet have i heard it from Australian coaches.

Just an interesting point.


Edited by krones3: 3/9/2012 09:23:12 AM

Technical Director Australian Institute of Sport Men's Football Program

Whats happened to Peter De Roo, krones?

What you select at grass roots is what you get at the top.
Football is not a protection game it is a game of the best get the spot and the rest challenge them for that spot.
Regrettably everyone in youth development knows the game in this country has become protectionist.
Before selecting a division, state, QAS ,or national squad, a best of the rest should be selected, games played not one but many so everyone knows their position is on the line.
Not the protected few of wealthy fathers.




http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/2269194495/Shootout

Edited by krones3: 18/8/2012 08:11:03 AM