On Kilkenny, I genuinely think he would rip the A-league apart if he could stay fit. His ability to play killer passes are all angles is uncanny.

Depends on his circumstances, but IF SO, then why not? He'd be classified as an Aussie, but have VISA quality AND his Socceroos prospects may increase too.

He'd be a valuable CM option for a number of sides, so there'd be atleast 2-3 suitors?



And this is why Holger and some others questioned his move to Celtic/SPL. The doubts/concerns continue, the longer he's there. Hopefully he sees a regular run now and does enough to impress scouts south of the border and preferably across the channel.

Even to see Oliver Bozanic and Dario Vidosic impressing in the Swiss league, EVEN THERE, he could be tearing it up, week in, week out! Let alone Tommy Oar reaping rewards at Utrecht.

Those are the sorts of leagues known for the development of 'jong'/young players, NOT Scotland! ](*,)

I know there are arguments counter - Celtic are in the CL/European football etc... but pointless when his style of game isn't valued by the coaching staff, above others of different qualities perhaps?

Mind you, Kris Commons and others are good players too, so he chose one of the teams/suitors with arguably the 'strongest squad'/midfield' of the bunch, bar QPR (Which would've been arguably worse?). He could've been tearing it up at Matt Ryan's club, Club Brugge instead, for instance?

Ah well, it's all hindsight - hopefully his 'next move' is a better one?

This recent article with Holger about it, circa recent friendlies, reminds why we need Rogic breaking through. People were constantly critical of Holger, but he was NOT WRONG on this one:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/socceroos-coach-holger-osieck-explains-why-tom-rogic-only-playing-cameo-roles/story-fnii0fc4-1226726398483

BTW To see how his Celtic team-mate, fellow Aussie, Irvine, thrives in the same league, albeit via loan, is another ironic reflection. He's too good to be loaned out to another SPL club like that, but he's also, so far, not been considered good enough to crack the senior Celtic team proper, thus far.

Amini mentioned as BvB II's best player last night

http://www.3-liga.com/news-3liga-muenster-setzt-den-aufwaertstrend-gegen-dortmunds-zweitbesetzung-fort---spielbericht-8290.html

or shit?

Gosh if rogic does get a run perhaps then he can play for the wallabies

I wonder if Neill was dropped or rested...

I just pulled this off and article about Kris Commons injury. Really sums up the attitude towards football in Scotland

Thank you.
And what do they want justice for?

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Edited by Voice ofReason: 20/10/2013 11:34:08 AM

I would Imagine Rogic is the logical option to take his spot although isn't Rogic also injured? If he can get a run of a few games as a number 10 and shows what he is capeable of it could be hard to drop him.

Irvine's goal


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXmTXdcYWvg

Good news for Rogic, Kris Commons is out injured.

Irvine's goal seems to be from a set piece on the edge of the boxed rolled across which he hit from outside the box.

Great to see Amini get more game time again. Its interesting Rogic cant break through at Celtic while Amini isn't playing in the first team but should we give him a look in for the November friendlies to see how he goes?

Should Neil Kilkenny come home as well? He seems to have fallen right out of favor at Bristol.

He had a good game, he made no defensive errors and Omiya only lost 1-0. He is showing his best form for the season, it is great to see the coach has kept faith in him and kept him in the team even if it was only on the bench. Hope Ange shows the same amount of faith in him.

Was our great leader an unused sub for Omiya?

U r right he played over twenty game season in the championship in 07 when he was 19/20 which is very impressive as well as playing in the spl.

Wesolowski is a slightly sad story, but he's still in there and playing fairly regularly it seems, so not that sad perhaps and he's still young enough to come back!

Younger days debuted with Leceister City at 18/19 in the Championship - coach and fans were raving about him, but then he suffered injury from a bad tackle and then injury spell after injury spell for the next few years. It's only his recent club, Oldham, where it seems, hopefully, he's finally settled into a regular run of senior football, albeit in a lower division.

He's the gem in the rough, a good, hard working, DM/CM who gets around, has a good tackle and is a generally good footballer, apparently. I don't know much more tbh, but again, he debuted early, purely due to his talent and was still high in the team's pecking order/rotation, despite injury spells, but the absences and lack of football took their toll.

Not unlike Rhys Williams in that regard, just Williams saw through that and is still with his club, where Wesolowski had to see loan moves and eventually departed.

Even just looking at his Wiki, his record of career appearances, season on season, alone gives an indication of where he once was. He was even called up to the Socceroos - I forgot about that! But no wonder I did - he had to pull out due to, you guessed it, injury! :/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Wesolowski


But again, he's playing regularly and coming back. Hopefully he can rise up in league level/standard again before he hits his peak years, which are only a season or two away.

Edited by gloryperth: 20/10/2013 06:56:28 AM

Irvine got on the score sheet as well!

on the other hand mcdonald has had 3 touches all game...

Missed that Scott McDonald started for Milwall and he has now scored. I wonder whether the new national coach might give him another chance.

There is a bit of spread of ages, Federici 28, Langerak 25, Ryan 21 but goalkeeping is certainly a position which is a strength.

Looks like a Middlesbrough need Williams, down 3-0 now with one goal being a penalty given away by center back Ben Gibson.

federici, ryan and langerak is quite a good crop of goalkeepers from generation next....

The only positive is that McCarthy might end up in the EPL again quite quickly. January even if a side is looking for a goalkeeper. Fulham?

we have a lot of 3rd division players, one of them might be a gem. I hope our new coach has a look at them. He may not find anyone good enough but its worth a look

mccarthy has a knee injury
http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport/readingfc/articles/2013/10/19/94217-live--reading-fc-v-doncaster-rovers/

apparently he has been considered for england and is very highly rated!

poor fed, stuck in the ecl behind an up and coming star

Meredith, Wright and Wesolowski all started in league 1

correction irvine playing midfield

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live/match-commentary/289379/kilmarnock-v-ross-county

dont know if that is reliable....still cant find a stream :(