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Tom AUFC wrote:killua wrote:Watched the second half of the Utrecht game. Oar doing well again attacking down the left and with good crosses. I couldn't tell from my stream, but if he is the one taking corners on the right, they were also very good. Sarota was less evident in play.
I think Oar will be sold at the end of this season if he keeps his current form up. I honestly think the EPL would be a perfect fit. I definitely think that he has the ability to attract interest from there. Such an exciting player! I hope he stays at Utrecht for a few years. Historically the Eredivise has been the best place for Australians to develop. Holman and Culina had zero hype around them before they went there. Then after a few years they became some our most important players. Add to that Emerton, Graham Arnold, the Vidmar's and now even Sarota who nobody rated is coming good due to his time there. I can't think of a single Australian who played in the Eredivise for a few years that didn't do very well for the NT during their time there. Also on some occasions when one of these players moved to the premier league or other more physical leagues they suddenly started putting in less impressive performances for the Socceroos. Holman hasn't been very good for us since his move so far. Let's hope he doesn't get added to that list.
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GloryPerth wrote:Tom AUFC wrote:killua wrote:Watched the second half of the Utrecht game. Oar doing well again attacking down the left and with good crosses. I couldn't tell from my stream, but if he is the one taking corners on the right, they were also very good. Sarota was less evident in play.
I think Oar will be sold at the end of this season if he keeps his current form up. I honestly think the EPL would be a perfect fit. I definitely think that he has the ability to attract interest from there. Such an exciting player! Please don't overdo it - sheesh. A bigger Eredivisie club would be more than enough and even there it'd be a struggle to maintain regular first team for a still young lad. It's good he's coming on this season, but it's still early in the season and consistency is the key. But indeed, agreed with killua, if he keeps up this form the next few months then surely a few bigger clubs both within and outside of the league will come calling. But when that time comes his next destination has to be a place where he's a good chance of regular first team - especially as where he's at now with Utrecht, regular football in the Eredivisie is not a bad thing AT ALL, infact pretty good for a young Aussie player, so even if he could string a few consecutive seasons here or even more, ala Holman, then that would be stella too. And flipside, we've seen how risky it can be leaving a good trot in a half decent league like the Eredivisie at an arguably 'too soon time' for the likes of lower EPL/English Championship - Just ask David Carney and 1-2 others. And with Holman being a good example - He was interested in moving to the EPL for his last couple seasons. But obviously it took him a little while - despite a strong Eredivisie and NT career and Championship success with AZ. Only after his contract ran through was he free to make the move and too, EPL clubs like Villa interested. And boy, weren't Villa lucky to pick him up on a free and don't they know it! AND Another good example - Brett Emerton too, 3 full seasons and nearly 100 Eredivisie games with big Dutch club Feyenoord before making the move to Blackburn at 24 years of age. And Emerton got in younger at EPL level too (Than Holman and some others) - but even he still had that strong, consistent 3 seasons in the Eredivisie that contributed to his value/stock in making his next move and too chances of first team at that next club. Edited by gloryperth: 22/10/2012 08:19:00 AM I agree with the too soon part, if he went over at the end of this season I could see a season or two like last year. the club I would like to see him the most at would be Ajax al I like them the most but PSV, Feyenoord and probably Twente now are all good at bring youth through and regularly play in Europe often getting to the knock out stages of the Europa league. in moving to England the only benefit for him would be back in an english speaking country so it would be easier to adapt. I don't know about you but I an hoping he will move central so like Mata. now the players like this I know of all cane from overseas not in England so I would say Spain + Italy would be much better especially with the financial state of many clubs so I could see him making mid to just above mid table teams starting XI. In terms of Italy or Spain it really depends on the club. Italy has teams using inside forwards which I think would be perfect for Oar while Spain have more traditional wingers but I feel the focus on passing over there (don't judge other teams tactics on how they play the big 2) would make Oar a better player and maybe after he has good ball control and has been taught well he should move to England where they play a bit faster but I feel the coaching for development is still behinds. other places I think he could go to play at the end of the year and would be good for him. a big Portuguese team who plays in Europe (i think there were rumours last year). Brazil - it is becoming a stronger league each year and really encourages players to be creative but I think it unlikely as most players probably see this as a step back and also Brazil teams don't bring many european based players over, also like many Brazilians have said it is the location of the world cup which can only he good. Also a word of warning, these rumours where going around at the start of last season after he scored and had some good performances, it is still early days
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Tom AUFC wrote:killua wrote:Watched the second half of the Utrecht game. Oar doing well again attacking down the left and with good crosses. I couldn't tell from my stream, but if he is the one taking corners on the right, they were also very good. Sarota was less evident in play.
I think Oar will be sold at the end of this season if he keeps his current form up. I honestly think the EPL would be a perfect fit. I definitely think that he has the ability to attract interest from there. Such an exciting player! Please don't overdo it - sheesh. A bigger Eredivisie club would be more than enough and even there it'd be a struggle to maintain regular first team for a still young lad. It's good he's coming on this season, but it's still early in the season and consistency is the key. But indeed, agreed with killua, if he keeps up this form the next few months then surely a few bigger clubs both within and outside of the league will come calling. But when that time comes his next destination has to be a place where he's a good chance of regular first team - especially as where he's at now with Utrecht, regular football in the Eredivisie is not a bad thing AT ALL, infact pretty good for a young Aussie player, so even if he could string a few consecutive seasons here or even more, ala Holman, then that would be stella too. And flipside, we've seen how risky it can be leaving a good trot in a half decent league like the Eredivisie at an arguably 'too soon time' for the likes of lower EPL/English Championship - Just ask David Carney and 1-2 others. And with Holman being a good example - He was interested in moving to the EPL for his last couple seasons. But obviously it took him a little while - despite a strong Eredivisie and NT career and Championship success with AZ. Only after his contract ran through was he free to make the move and too, EPL clubs like Villa interested. And boy, weren't Villa lucky to pick him up on a free and don't they know it! AND Another good example - Brett Emerton too, 3 full seasons and nearly 100 Eredivisie games with big Dutch club Feyenoord before making the move to Blackburn at 24 years of age. And Emerton got in younger at EPL level too (Than Holman and some others) - but even he still had that strong, consistent 3 seasons in the Eredivisie that contributed to his value/stock in making his next move and too chances of first team at that next club. Edited by gloryperth: 22/10/2012 08:19:00 AM
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killua wrote:Watched the second half of the Utrecht game. Oar doing well again attacking down the left and with good crosses. I couldn't tell from my stream, but if he is the one taking corners on the right, they were also very good. Sarota was less evident in play.
I think Oar will be sold at the end of this season if he keeps his current form up. Oar takes them from the right and Sarota from the left
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playmaker11 wrote:Troisi gets a start for Atalanta Brilliant!
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killua wrote:Watched the second half of the Utrecht game. Oar doing well again attacking down the left and with good crosses. I couldn't tell from my stream, but if he is the one taking corners on the right, they were also very good. Sarota was less evident in play.
I think Oar will be sold at the end of this season if he keeps his current form up. I honestly think the EPL would be a perfect fit. I definitely think that he has the ability to attract interest from there. Such an exciting player!
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Troisi gets a start for Atalanta
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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Capac wrote:What has caused Massimo Loungo to drop out of favour? He was starting and playing whole games at the beginning and has been slowly getting less time. Be even harder now considering they signed Nigel Reo Coker
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Watched the second half of the Utrecht game. Oar doing well again attacking down the left and with good crosses. I couldn't tell from my stream, but if he is the one taking corners on the right, they were also very good. Sarota was less evident in play.
I think Oar will be sold at the end of this season if he keeps his current form up.
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What has caused Massimo Loungo to drop out of favour? He was starting and playing whole games at the beginning and has been slowly getting less time.
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Sarota assist. 2-1
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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Oar and Sarota starting for Utrecht. Oar with an assist moments ago. Currently 1-1.
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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An absolute screamer by Jedinak.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:Do you know anything more about Fed & Herd? I've seen a couple of reports saying they are out injured. This is true. I believe Herd is close. @Cheers- yeah mate that was his first full competitive game for the ressies
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good to see Degenek doing well at Stuttgart. Jones getting a full game for Liverpool and Kruse did OK in a pretty poor team performance V B.Munich. Must be the first full game Amini has played?
Does Porta ever stop scoring?
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Do you know anything more about Fed & Herd? I've seen a couple of reports saying they are out injured.
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Farrand93 wrote:Jeezus Christttt! 85% of them were "Not in the squad". Very upsetting for our O/S boys last night. Well done to Matthew Byrne for getting plent of game time. And hats off to Richard Porta for simply ripping holes in the back of nets the in the middle east. A number of them were not in the squad due to injury
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Milos Degenek... He surely should get an u19 call-up? Though I know he wasn't in the squad for the two games against the Portuguese u19's.
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Jeezus Christttt! 85% of them were "Not in the squad". Very upsetting for our O/S boys last night. Well done to Matthew Byrne for getting plent of game time. And hats off to Richard Porta for simply ripping holes in the back of nets the in the middle east.
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The most comprehensive wrap of the Aussies abroad from Saturday http://osaussies.com/saturday-wrap-3/
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DeVere (Gyeongnam) just played in the Korean FA Cup final against Pohang. Pohang won 1-0 with a goal in the 120th minute. I didn't watch the game but I'd imagine the standard to be quite good. Time for at least a squad call-up, Holger.
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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All the overnight Aussie action abroad http://osaussies.com/friday-wrap-3/
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Just the one Aussie abroad in action Wednesday but one close to Mariner's fans hearts http://osaussies.com/wednesday-wrap-3/
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http://osaussies.com/tuesday-wrap-3/Another quiet night as expected with the internationals on
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A quiet night for the Aussies abroad http://osaussies.com/monday-wrap-3/
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Voice ofReason wrote:Farrand93 wrote:Higashi wrote:Bouzanis seem to be getting a decent run nowadays. Might be finally living up to his potential. At the expense of Cisak :( Oldham have 3 Aussie keepers Australian exports: coal, iron, goalkeepers... :lol:
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Farrand93 wrote:Higashi wrote:Bouzanis seem to be getting a decent run nowadays. Might be finally living up to his potential. At the expense of Cisak :( Oldham have 3 Aussie keepers
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Higashi wrote:Bouzanis seem to be getting a decent run nowadays. Might be finally living up to his potential. At the expense of Cisak :(
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The Aussies abroad overnight action plus Young Roos match report http://osaussies.com/sunday-wrap-3/
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