Then it's KrissKrash and SouthMelb, etc., that you're having a go at? Similarly non-pimple faced kids who were on the scene way over 2 minutes ago.

Let's just get it out and clear - please - how long does one have to have followed football, in person, in Australia, to be allowed to comment on the game. I'd love to know, then we can adjust the rules for posting on the forum to suit you...

Have nothing against the club which was the most watched by me during and pre NSL. I felt welcome and was one of the 5%. However being armed with this knowledge I completely understand how entrenched the Greek culture at the club is. I'm also aware of all tyhe lip service it paid to broaden at a time when the authorities pushed for it, banned ethnic signatures, names and when there was a glimmer of hope with the development of other main stream clubs producing crowds only Hellas could imagine. It bucked at all that right up to the end of the NSL which in reality was not that long ago. Coupled that with the ethnic tensions and culture still exhibited eg vs Macedonia in the VPL in 2005, they have still long way to go. Mind you same applies to clubs like Sydney Croatia and / or Melbourne Croatia with similar histories. But this thrfead is about Hellas getting into the A-League.

Until they can demonstrate a clear new direction (not lip service) and comply with all the criteria forml or informal set by the FFA, they belong out of the limelight in the lower leagues.

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You should look at whom I made that pimple face response to. Too hard and inconvenient?..........and as if your going on about is important :lol:

Edited by paulc: 13/2/2013 01:07:01 PM

So now you're trying to take the pimple faced kids (plural) and suggest that it was directed at an individual (singular). Mmmmm.

Wow! We should call you Nostradamus Paulc, you sure picked me and Chris.

I'm the one in the middle Chris is the on the left of me as you look at the photo.


We had just infiltrated the Heart hardcore support and have been teaching them to rip flares in the SMFC tradition.

Pile enough shit onto a wheelbarrow and you can counterbalance a pot of gold...

Or pile enough facts together and the job is easy.

I see you and your lot have been on overdrive on this thread ie plenty of piles of shit :lol:

I find it ironic how now we have people within the game with this anti-wog mentality.

"You dirty ethnics go away with your scary souvlaki and chevapi's, and your up tempo music which makes people happy".

Don't know who you're talking about but I love souvlaki, chevapi and even octopus.

What's more ironic is people believing their club have a right to represent their community first and foremost, bias and all and not expect a backlash.

Are you a pimple facer too?

Edited by paulc: 13/2/2013 01:39:24 PM

There haven't any facts from you, just speculation based on xenophobia.

Can't wait for the first state league club to join the A-League!

Incorrect - reports, extracts from forums, articles and history is not speculation backed up by the more honest and astute forumites.

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen boy!

All irrelevant in 2013 with the rules in place for promotion. Take your xenophobia back to the days of Johnnie Howard.

So far there are no rules for promotion. When they do come up you will be a grandfather.

So far there are rules for eligibility into the National Premier League. Promotion/relegation within 5 years. Then it will be time for dinosaurs like you to become extinct.

Wrong again. There was no timeline in the press release and a very obvious omission of any reference to P&R.

Your mention of 5 years could only be the time when you might lose your pimples.

1991 Grand Final - best quality and physical game I have seen in Australia to date

the atmosphere was electric

South Melbourne Hellas v Melbourne Croatia

smfc is evolving quicker than the Heart Paul

anybody that wants to use football to convey a political message has a serious issue Paul

why arent the Heart attracting many families?

These kids should get a detention at school for their behaviour


Edited by chris: 13/2/2013 03:34:49 PM

And why are kids buttoning there shirts upto the top?

Arthur - Coz that's Melbourne hip man!! lol

Chris - I know plenty of families and couples that go to Heart games, I do not however know many of them that stand in the Active areas and light flares...we leave that to the hipsters, like the ones in the image above!

I'm sure the oldies would rather sit in Lakeside Stadium's grand stand too instead of behind the goals with the 'young hooligans'.

[size=3]Disclaimer: I'm not labelling all active fans who stand behind the goals as young hooligans. It's just an example of a perception someone older might have of the younger generation standing behind goals yelling and throwing flares! Not that all Active Areas have flare throwers. I think flares should stay out of stadiums for good. Also, get a hair cut you hippies! :p[/size]

Yet there's evidence of political violence a mere handful of years ago.

But agree, there's no future for it which beggers why such mono ethnic clubs brought their fight into this country in the first place.

I bet there's still hatred between some of the Greek club supporters and the Macedonian club supporters. One thing I've learned is that emotional european countries like Greece, Macedonia, Croatia and other Balkan states will not let go their grievences or hatred of their waring nations past that easy. After hundreds of years of pain its easy to understand why they still exist, however it doesn't belong here.

Now that's one of the concerns and another is Hellas' willingness (unwillingness rather)to expand and broaden.

Does SM Hellas still cater for Greek functions only, I bet you do!

Edited by paulc: 14/2/2013 10:00:10 AM

Is it just me or is the majority of heart fan base the youth in the active areas? its no secret thats the most populated part of aami park when Heart play, they seem to make up half the crowd, the rest are scattered all over the place...based on my experience it doesnt seem like many families turn up..and yes i've sat on the near camera side that fox sports doesnt show.

It's just you.

Good work for coming to a Heart game though, you should come back Sunday week for the SFC match...Del Piero will be there ;)

On Saturday there certainly appeared to be more people in the active area behind the goal than on either side of the ground. There weren't very many on the camera side.

perhaps their mummy's dressed them

Think South is going to have a really difficult time proving it isn't a Greek club.

With all the colours, chants, fans, history, boardroom identitiies, etc generally in life if something looks, walks, quacks like a duck its probably a duck.

Actions speak louder than words my friends.

Think Heart are going to have a really difficult time proving themselves to be viable.

With all the empty seats, the red ink in the ledger, the lack of differentiation, the failed youth policy, etc, in life if something looks, walks, quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

Quack quack.

Better a duck than a goose

Ah yes, but who's the duck and who's the goose?

Ours is a club with a strong Greek heritage which no-one denies, Heart meanwhile has no point of differentiation but no one there appears to want to admit it. Perhaps ostrich would be a more accurate bird for them?

Ostrich's are pretty cool. They'd kill a goose with one kick