I actually think notorganic has reached a new low. And that takes some doing.

Fucking lol @ Notor copping hate for being a realist :lol:

-PB

By the time they're an addict they no longer have the control. As for trying it for the first time - often depression pushes people into self-destructive behaviour. No one is supporting drug taking, you just can't look at it as a black and white issue.

But only the Russians would be crazy enough to even consider cooking that shit up.

Worse than ice and crack?

As far as I'm aware it's not arrived in Australia, and if it has it's still very low key. We've still got major problems with Heroin and Ice, and junkies are happy to stick to those as it's still relatively cheap.

Krokodil only became popular in Russia in the mid-late 90's because of their government cracking down on the Heroin trade. I wouldn't be surprised to see Krokodil hit our shores soon, but I don't think we'll have a major epidemic of it.

I liked the bit where EG tried to paint me into an emotional corner using the torture and murder of my daughter.

If that happened, I would probably feel pretty sorry for myself. Likely for the rest of my life.

She wouldn't care as much.

Edited by Notorganic: 4/2/2014 08:41:36 PM

By order of magnitude.

The mortality rate of Krokodil users is ridiculously high - somewhere in the 90% range.

Nice try, but I won't feel sorry for you when your dad shoots you in the face either.

There's a difference between being a 'realist', and being a insensitive fuckwit.

It's not insensitive to have sympathy for the loved ones of people who die.

Any names you've ever called me on this forum, I'd like to rebound them back to you now. Your posts in this thread (non relating to krokodil because I haven't read those posts) are outright disgusting (there's that word again) and I hate the fact that someone who has those views actually feels validated in themselves to label OTHER people shit human beings.

:lol:

I'm sorry that feeling empathy for people that have lost loved ones is so reprehensible to you.

ITT: FFT Moral compass GOING HAM

At no stage has Notor said he would be happy about the deaths of any of the people in these ridiculous scenarios. Just stating that you feel sympathy and invest time in the people who are left behind, because that actually achieves something

Have you been taking sidestepping lessons from Mack again?

Fucking oath :lol:

I fail to see how anything he has said is insensitive.

-PB

Notorganic has truly hit a new low here.

I still don't see how :lol:

It's a well known fact that he's an Atheist, he has no beliefs in things like the afterlife and so forth so I can see exactly where he's coming from in regards to not feeling sympathy for someone who is no longer alive.

At no point did he say to not remember them or to just disregard their lives and their achievements/failures in it like nothing had happened.

People are making this a storm in a teacup because it is notor and nothing more :lol:

-PB

Christians and alike more often then not like to ask me the question "So where do you think you go when you die?" The look on their face as they process the response "the same place you were before you were conceived" is priceless, some even have to ask, "where's that?"

No, This is Patrick

ftfy

This isn't about the afterlife, about talking to dead people or something like that, isn't about any of that bs. Feeling sympathy for the people who out-live the dead person is good, and normal. But to just straight up say no emotions/feelings go to the actual person that died is just wrong.

I just keep thinking back to the hypothetical scenario I posted a page or two ago, and can't help but think anyone who thinks that way is an insensitive so-and-so. Apparently, according to the "realists", it's not cool or worth the time to even remotely feel some form of emotion for the person who died because of the opportunities, achievements, etc that they will miss out on because they're no longer alive. The "realists" don't even invest the time to think "he/she could have done this, he/she would have lived an amazing life if they had done that" or anything remotely close to it.

I think your way of thinking is much more selfish and callous by the way of heaping misery on grieving people.

You've hit a new low etc.

If someone in your life died, and you felt sorry for yourself because you missed that person (and did not feel any emotions for the person who died) is that not the selfish way of looking at it?

Any emotions felt are your own emotions. You can perceive other people's emotions, but not feel them.

Dead people aren't emotional at all.

That's ok, the forum won't feel anything when something macabre happens to your daughter too. After all, " anyone who dies...isn't deserving of anyone's sympathy."

I'm struggling to understand this post & how it applies to this conversation (particularly the bit about being selfish). Congrats on providing the brainhurt for the day.