I was told in my mid-year performance review last year that if things weren't so bad in the industry, they wouldn't hesitate to put me on full time. They said (the first part jokingly) that I finished uni at the wrong time and that if I'd finished the year before I'd have a job no problems at all.

In my experience of face-to-face contact with companies, in the end it boils down to "here's our business card, apply online", where I go back to being just a number.

It's so hard to find work locally, so I've been applying for positions far and wide. Perth, Brisbane, Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney, Mackay. I can't exactly turn up in person to all those places I applied for.

Pretty much agree with some of what afro is saying. People just need to get a fair go/catch a break. I applied for a job recently and got a rejection email. Ok, nothing new. A job where experience was desired but not essential. A job in which I have experience in what they wanted the successful applicant to be doing. So I requested feedback as to why I didn't get it, so maybe I could fix some issues possibly relating to my cover letter/resume. I was told I was next in line, but the kicker was the guy who got the gig knew someone within. Not cos they were necessarily better than me. At least I know my documents look ok I guess. *shrugs*

Don't know how long the industry is going to be in a hole for, so if it's still in a bad way mid-year I might jump into a teaching degree (which is the other degree I was considering) and try and land a part time job to keep me going but knowing my luck, the UK's demand for Aussie teachers would dry up by the time I'd finish. :lol:

When I was doing my degree we were constantly being told by guys working in the industry that they wouldn't hire us because we couldn't do as good a job as them and they weren't willing to take us on as interns or whatever. It was purely these assholes protecting their last paychecks and it's the same in a lot of industries. I've got a dozen kids working the function events for my bar who have degrees but can't get jobs in their industries. Granted, one of them showed up to work in food service with bright blue fingernails and is fucking doomed regardless. But most of them are good, talented kids who can't get jobs because Baby Boomers are assholes.

hes actually still there. still no job for his degree & he doesn't want to face the real world as both his grandparents are doctors & have huge expectations of him. his problem was he did nuclear medicine radiography at newy Uni, which initially had great job prospects, but from what I'm led to believe about a year before he graduated there was an advancement in the field & that whole line of radiography is relatively redundant now. he reckons there was only 5/50 kids in his grad year that actually got jobs & they had to move to Adelaide to get said jobs.

I got a job straight out of uni. From experience with the contempt undergraduates speak with when i've gone into uni to talk to them or to take samples in for their projects, they seem to over-estimate their value.

I remember thinking as an under-grad that because of my GPA i'd be flying into the likes of AURECON or AECOM and be riding high within a few years.

I've said it before in another thread but kids coming through need to show their face to companies they go after. It's a lot harder to say no to a face than it is to delete an email or hang up a phone.

My wife did this as well, But housekeeping! what year did your mate go?

move to hamilton island for a year doing bartending

that's what my mate did when he finished his degree & couldn't get a job

Fact is, a lot of industries have baby boomers trying to protect their last few paychecks.

The only job getting a degree gets you these days is as a bartender.

Ok internet strangers, help me out.

I called several firms today to ask about grad opportunities. The general response was that they are not taking on any grads atm and will not be in the foresee-able future.

So now, I'm considering getting another job until the industry turns itself around. Any suggestions for something I could do?

Can confirm Soov to be a fine elixir and would recommend to anyone in a similar predicament.

like a boss!

firstly, i demand you name him/her griff.

if it was me i'd imagine the "excitement", "magic", etc would be a bit worn off now, by the third. knowing if it's a boy/girl would be so much better organisation-wise, you'd be able to plan much better. i also like the idea of a mid-pregnancy milestone, in finding out. having a baby is surprise/exitement enough as it is - rewarding yourself along the way is a good little treat & motivator to get through it all imo.

realistically, because you guys are torn, there's only one logical & fair way to settle this:

It's our third, so we already have the names, it's just a matter of finding out what we're having and then filling out the form.

I personally think that it's better to wait so you have the suprise, but as it's our third my wife doesn't think it really matters and knowing will allow us to plan what we need, or convince me to get the cut (which is never happening).

Depends what it means for you. I guess it gives you six months odd to think about the baby's name...

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Depends how exciting/special it was for you to find out when the child was born.

Alright, here's a head scratcher for you all. I've recently, for the third time impreganated my wife (like a Boss) and we're coming up for our 13 week ultra sound.

Now for those of you in the know you are aware but for those that are not, this is the time they ask you if you wish to know the sex of the child.
Now for our first two we didn't find out but my wife is swinging to the idea of finding out.

Should we find out now or should we stick to waiting until the birth to find out?

Make sure the car is in the house. Burn the lot to the ground. And then to be sure, piss on the ashes. It's going to take a lot of urine, but I have faith you can finish the job.

Wait. Swelling you say?

It's too late.

We only have one solution now.

Just to be sure.

I'd also organise flights. It's no guarantee, but it's your best option.

Cheers, will invest in some Soov Bite. I think it happened in my car though, should probably burn both to be on the safe side yeah?

Also, burn down your house. He has now tasted your blood, and will not stop hunting you until he has finished his work.

If it's tender and swollen, go to your chemist and get them to take a look at it. Buy a tube of Ego Soov Bite as well, helps with pretty much any bug bites or stings.

I think I've been bitten by a spider, not a serious one just a lot of redness and swelling, anyone know an effective remedy/how long I can expect symptoms to persist?

TL;DR but skimmed, gaming and movie industry you can get into - I have a mate who did it. How ever you will need to be in it for the long haul, it took him about 5-6 years before he succeeded. He started as a lighting artist (well first credit is that) and now is a lead texture and look dev.

It was his dream job and he persisted with it.

I was at Trinity-Willison before. At that club you basically had to be a member of this shitcunt family, or be the best friend of one of them, to get a fair go. Plus they didn't have teams that play on turf

I'm sure as long as you didn't leave badly they'll welcome you back :)

Oh cool, changing clubs a few years ago was the best decision I've made in cricket. Seeing as you're looking at Fitzroy I'd definitely recommend training Tuesdays as well for the rest of the season

I'm at Hawthorn, I remember you saying another time that you used to play at Bulleen right? Are you still playing in the ECA?

I think you'll be fine showing up to training. I know at my club old players show up fairly often and it's all good.
Note, they might not have training tonight anyway because of the T20 comp, my training for tonight got cancelled because of this

Oh and it's Cricket. Go and train with your old mates and they'll be okay with it. it's cricket after all, you're aloud to be podgie.

IF you're under 25 and have no life responsibilities, (kids, cars, credit debt, mortgage et al) it shouldn't even be a hard question. Study, study what you want and party like you ain't wearing pants! Careers are over rated and only assist you in supporting a wife family and getting deeper into debt with every thing that comes with being a grown up.

If I had no responsibilities I'd go back to study and become a physio, but since I can't afford to pay the mortgage and open Universities, I get to stay in my shitty job and hope that one day I can actually go back to being cool!

Also I get to go to Football matches but that's just to stop my head from exploding.

Live, learn, travel. Only grow up when you get tired of of it all and then learn the fear of being a grown up with a mortgage and having to provide for a family.

It's also not as bad as it may sound.