Australia Day - What does it mean to you?


Australia Day - What does it mean to you?

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Edited by Joffa: 22/1/2013 10:38:20 PM
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Violence, booze a nation's shame as police prepare for Australia Day assaults

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Aaron Langmaid From:
Herald Sun January 23, 2013
12:00AM In

AUSTRALIA is earning itself a reputation for violence and drinking to excess because young people can't handle their booze, experts have warned.
It comes as police gear up for a spike in violent assaults on Australia Day.
Our day of national pride is second only to New Year's when it comes to the number of punches thrown by goons.
Last year 109 assaults were reported to police on Australia Day and 122 were reported on the same day in 2011.
Deputy Commissioner Tim Cartwright said the figures were an alarming revelation for a day that was supposed to be one of our proudest.
"There is a real association with alcohol and violence in Australia and it's embarrassing," he said.
"Lots of other cultures drink alcohol but it seems like Australians use booze as an excuse. Especially, on Australia Day, it's not something to be proud of."
. He said the Australian Open and music festivals such as the Big Day Out and Rainbow Serpent, as well as the city and bayside regions would be a focus for police on Saturday.
Dalgarno Institute director Shane Varcoe said we lived in a society where people thought they were "entitled to get drunk".
"Australia Day should be a chance to celebrate our liberty, to look after our neighbours and our mates, not get smashed," he said.
"We no longer understand what it means to be a mature Australian."
A tougher stance on the responsible service of alcohol, starting from how it was advertised to its sale across the counter, would be key to any cultural shift, he said.
Police warned yesterday warm weather and an over-indulgence in alcohol and drugs were the main drivers behind the spike. Males aged 18 to 24 account for a huge slice of the offences, which mostly occur after 5pm.
Extra resources will be rolled out across Victoria this weekend, with a focus on known troublespots including the city, coastal and foreshore areas such as St Kilda and the Mornington Peninsula. Lake Wendouree in Ballarat also will be targeted.
Police will patrol entertainment precincts and transit police will patrol public transport hubs.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/violence-booze-a-nations-shame-as-police-prepare-for-australia-day-assaults/story-e6frf7kx-1226559588345

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Public holiday.
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Nothing.
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Funky Munky wrote:
Nothing.

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Very important to me. Far more important than the pagan festivals of Xmas and Easter. To be honest, it is pretty sad how mindless people are that Xmas is the most important holiday of the year.
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T-UNIT wrote:
Public holiday.
This, the family usually get together but that's mainly because of this reason.
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Just an excuse to get on the piss for me. It's the same for quite a few people in our society but very few will admit it.
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Well, last australia day i was dared to run about a park with friends draped in a red flag and shirt with a hammer and sickle on it.
So I did.
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The first person to use the phrase 'invasion day' should be perma-banned.
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afromanGT wrote:
The first person to use the phrase 'invasion day' should be perma-banned.
Technically it was you..
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milan_7 wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
The first person to use the phrase 'invasion day' should be perma-banned.
Technically it was you..

Funky.
You know what to do.
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What a sad day it'll be, the day Funky takes orders from notorganic.
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Is that going to be your new over-used meme, GA? :lol:.



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Well, I'm working Australia Day, so for me it means gearing up for a 10-hour shift, hoping we have no fights during the afternoon in the bar. Security isn't being put on until the normal time of 7pm. :lol:.

During the day I'll fire up the BBQ, throw a couple steaks on, crack a couple cold beers and relax with dad.

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Well, I'm working Australia Day, so for me it means gearing up for a 10-hour shift, hoping we have no fights during the afternoon in the bar. Security isn't being put on until the normal time of 7pm. :lol:.

Fuck that. That's a joke. You KNOW it's going to be busy earlier. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to not have security on? I know that Victoria have laws requiring a guard for every 50 people now.
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Flag is our greatest Australian divide

by:
JESSICA MARSZALEK From:
News Limited Network January 23, 2013
12:00AM

FOUR in 10 Australians think the flag needs to be reclaimed as a symbol of unity
And only a third of people would vote yes if another referendum to establish a republic were held today.
A Galaxy Poll of more than 1000 people, conducted exclusively for News Limited in the run up to Australia Day, reveals how some feel the flag has slipped as an icon of togetherness.


*One word is required for each field.
Forty per cent said there was "a need to reclaim the Australian flag as a symbol of unity", while 33 per cent said there was no need. The remainder were uncommitted.
Sydney University researcher Ben Moffitt, who wrote a thesis on the Cronulla race riots, said the use of the flag during that violence had left an ugly mark.
. The wearing of the flag as a cape there, and at other events like music festivals, had turned it into a weapon, he said.
"It was not a symbol of unity, it was a symbol of otherness... as if to say this is what is really Australian, you are not," Mr Moffitt said.
The riots was a "perfect storm" of symbolism with lasting connotations, he said.
"You had life savers, the beach, the Australian flag, the southern cross, the Eureka tattoo," Mr Moffitt said.
"Chuck in some beers, the hot sun. It's all those Australian symbols turned into a nasty cocktail."
People who had southern cross tattoos prior to the riots now looked like "nationalist boofheads" because of the changed symbolism, he said.
University of Technology Sydney associate professor Katrina Schlunke said the flag had become a confused symbol, both filled with meaning and deprived of it.
"It can be used as a kind of rallying symbol for a racist action, so it's too heavily imbued with meaning," she said.
"And on the other hand, it's as if it's being emptied out of meaning by its popular uptake and casual use on cars and everyone flying one in their back yard and here and there."
Meanwhile, the poll revealed even fewer people would vote for a republic if the 1999 referendum question were put to them now, with 33 per cent answering yes, compared with 45 per cent who answered yes 13 years ago.
Monarchist David Flint said support for a republic had been down in polls for years, even before the latest royal marriage and the Queen's diamond jubilee.
He said people were "peeved" with politicians, but not with the Queen.
But republican David Morris said the original question had been so flawed, the result was unsurprising. Research last year by UMR showed 48 per cent supported Australia becoming a republic, he said.
Mr Morris said the question had been off the political agenda for too long and a national conversation needed to happen on the best way to frame a republic.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/flag-our-greatest-australian-divide/story-fncynkc6-1226559592125


Edited by Joffa: 23/1/2013 07:55:29 AM
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Our day of national pride is second only to New Year's when it comes to the number of punches thrown by goons.
Last year 109 assaults were reported to police on Australia Day and 122 were reported on the same day in 2011

And here I thought it was the sokka hooligans causing all the problems
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Time to go Cronulla and beat on some lebs.

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Eureka flag to become our national flag!
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jlm8695 wrote:
Funky Munky wrote:
Nothing.

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imonfourfourtwo wrote:
Eureka flag to become our national flag!

Yeah, a symbol of rebellion and subversion should be the symbol of the Australian establishment :lol:
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When is Australia Day?
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I'm the son of an Immigrant so it means a hell of a lot to me and if you think it's just about getting boozed up and being a Nationalist, you're wrong.

Australia, although it has its faults is the greatest country in the world and if you think its not then perhaps you should do a pro's and con's list with any other country to see that I'm right.

I don't believe in Love it or Leave it and I don't think we're full, I think we have plenty of room for anyone who genuinely wants a better life like my Father and grand Father did.
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KiwiChick1 wrote:
When is Australia Day?

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I don't believe in Love it or Leave it and I don't think we're full, I think we have plenty of room for anyone who genuinely wants a better life like my Father and grand Father did.

Those aren't the problem. I concur with that. Majority of Australia's populace has emigrated here in the last century or so. The problem is people bringing their own problems here.
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afromanGT wrote:
Those aren't the problem. I concur with that. Majority of Australia's populace has emigrated here in the last century or so. The problem is people bringing their own problems here.

The problem is those people who think they are superior cause they emigrated here first.
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It takes time for people to move on from these issues, look at the offspring of many Croatians and serbians or Greeks and Masodonians, they're still carrying around their problems as much as any person from an Afgani, Persian or other Islamic middle Eastern background.
I work with plenty of New immigrants and refugees and honestly, the ACA TT ones are few and far between the ones that actually want to be Australian and Asimilate into our culture (geez I hate that term).
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rocknerd wrote:
I work with plenty of New immigrants and refugees and honestly, the ACA TT ones are few and far between the ones that actually want to be Australian and Asimilate into our culture (geez I hate that term). become functional and constructive members of our society

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rocknerd wrote:
It takes time for people to move on from these issues, look at the offspring of many Croatians and serbians or Greeks and Masodonians, they're still carrying around their problems as much as any person from an Afgani, Persian or other Islamic middle Eastern background.
I work with plenty of New immigrants and refugees and honestly, the ACA TT ones are few and far between the ones that actually want to be Australian and Asimilate into our culture (geez I hate that term).

Also a massive number of Irish migrants brought the troubles with them. FFS we have the orange order etc here to this day and people don't kick up a fuss about that.

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General Ashnak wrote:
rocknerd wrote:
It takes time for people to move on from these issues, look at the offspring of many Croatians and serbians or Greeks and Masodonians, they're still carrying around their problems as much as any person from an Afgani, Persian or other Islamic middle Eastern background.
I work with plenty of New immigrants and refugees and honestly, the ACA TT ones are few and far between the ones that actually want to be Australian and Asimilate into our culture (geez I hate that term).

Also a massive number of Irish migrants brought the troubles with them. FFS we have the orange order etc here to this day and people don't kick up a fuss about that.

A couple of months back I had a couple of Irish blokes in my bar who would shout "UP THE R-A!!" every time they had a drink. We asked them to stop but it went on for about half an hour until another group of irishmen came in and put their heads through a table.
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afromanGT wrote:
General Ashnak wrote:
rocknerd wrote:
It takes time for people to move on from these issues, look at the offspring of many Croatians and serbians or Greeks and Masodonians, they're still carrying around their problems as much as any person from an Afgani, Persian or other Islamic middle Eastern background.
I work with plenty of New immigrants and refugees and honestly, the ACA TT ones are few and far between the ones that actually want to be Australian and Asimilate into our culture (geez I hate that term).

Also a massive number of Irish migrants brought the troubles with them. FFS we have the orange order etc here to this day and people don't kick up a fuss about that.

A couple of months back I had a couple of Irish blokes in my bar who would shout "UP THE R-A!!" every time they had a drink. We asked them to stop but it went on for about half an hour until another group of irishmen came in and put their heads through a table.

It's just stupid, my parents used to be part of the Irish Association until they realised it was just being used as a way to carry on all the bullshit they left Ireland to get away from.

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General Ashnak wrote:
It's just stupid, my parents used to be part of the Irish Association until they realised it was just being used as a way to carry on all the bullshit they left Ireland to get away from.

Yeah, it's bullshit. If you want to continue all the agitations from your old country that you or your compatriots left the country to get away from, go the fuck back there.
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Maribyrnong Council snubs Australia Day celebrations

by: Bridie Byrne, Maribyrnong Leader
From: Leader
January 23, 2013 12:00AM

MARIBYRNONG Council has been labelled un-Australian for its failure to embrace any community celebrations on Australia Day.

..Residents claimed the council should host a family event along the Maribyrnong River to mark the national day given its festival city agenda.

The council wants to become the carnival capital of Melbourne and has tried to lure more festivals to its events calendar.

Its line-up is jam packed with music concerts and multicultural events from the St Jerome's Laneway Festival to the East Meets West Lunar New Year Festival but public Australia Day celebrations have not made the cut.

Maribyrnong Residents Association spokeswoman Edith Pringle said with a growing population the council should be doing more to recognise the historic day.

"The community is getting bigger and bigger on Australia Day and the council needs to keep pace with that," she said.

"They should be celebrating the day in a much larger way than it does at the moment.

"A lot of people would view this as un-Australian."

The council will hold a citizenship and civic awards ceremony but both are invitation only.

Wyndham Council puts on a fireworks display, live music and a free barbecue, Hobsons Bay has a beach day with sandcastle competitions and Brimbank hosts a family barbecue and entertainment at the Kevin Wheelahan Gardens in Sunshine West.

Leader is awaiting comment from Maribyrnong Council.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/maribyrnong-council-snubs-australia-day-celebrations/story-fngnvmj7-1226559068743

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Australia, although it has its faults is the greatest country in the world


This!!!

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I don't believe in Love it or Leave it and I don't think we're full, I think we have plenty of room for anyone who genuinely wants a better life like my Father and grand Father did.


I came here as a young child immigrant. I love this country and think that people who don't should reconsider their choice to live here.

Anyone with gripes about how this country is run needs to go to the USA or Europe to get a taste of a struggling economy.
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It's just stupid, my parents used to be part of the Irish Association until they realised it was just being used as a way to carry on all the bullshit they left Ireland to get away from.

Yeah, it's bullshit. If you want to continue all the agitations from your old country that you or your compatriots left the country to get away from, go the fuck back there.


I don't get all the fucking Kiwis who talk way more bro than they are and have those stupid silver ferns on their cars.

I was born there, I certainly didn't come to Australia to be proud of NZ!
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Australians are way too patriotic for their own good at times... Who gives a fuck? As long as it's safe to walk the streets at night and you're doing all right financially, I'm fairly happy.

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Nothing.

I mean I love this country and feel very lucky to be here... But it's just a day.
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I feel proud to be Australian and having lived in Australia, but it's just another day for me. A bit like birthdays, but I don't get lots of money or gifts.
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Nothing as I'm not patriotic or proud to be Australian. I do however like how I can get drunk and high with friends listening to music

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Realistically it is now just a day to spend with my kids.

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benelsmore wrote:
rocknerd wrote:

I don't believe in Love it or Leave it and I don't think we're full, I think we have plenty of room for anyone who genuinely wants a better life like my Father and grand Father did.


I came here as a young child immigrant. I love this country and think that people who don't should reconsider their choice to live here.

Anyone with gripes about how this country is run needs to go to the USA or Europe to get a taste of a struggling economy.

I think we are nearing capacity in terms of maintaining our current lifestyle with the current infrastructure and way of thinking. There is only so much water that can be captured in our dams and only so much fertile land around the capital cities.
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chillbilly wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
rocknerd wrote:

I don't believe in Love it or Leave it and I don't think we're full, I think we have plenty of room for anyone who genuinely wants a better life like my Father and grand Father did.


I came here as a young child immigrant. I love this country and think that people who don't should reconsider their choice to live here.

Anyone with gripes about how this country is run needs to go to the USA or Europe to get a taste of a struggling economy.

I think we are nearing capacity in terms of maintaining our current lifestyle with the current infrastructure and way of thinking. There is only so much water that can be captured in our dams and only so much fertile land around the capital cities.

Most of that fertile land has houses on it - especially in Adelaide.

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Australians are way too patriotic for their own good at times... Who gives a fuck? As long as it's safe to walk the streets at night and you're doing all right financially, I'm fairly happy.

Australians are incredibly un-partiotic. Look at the apathetic response in this thread.

There's bogan nationalism, which makes us all cringe. But there's no patriotism.
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General Ashnak wrote:
chillbilly wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
rocknerd wrote:

I don't believe in Love it or Leave it and I don't think we're full, I think we have plenty of room for anyone who genuinely wants a better life like my Father and grand Father did.


I came here as a young child immigrant. I love this country and think that people who don't should reconsider their choice to live here.

Anyone with gripes about how this country is run needs to go to the USA or Europe to get a taste of a struggling economy.

I think we are nearing capacity in terms of maintaining our current lifestyle with the current infrastructure and way of thinking. There is only so much water that can be captured in our dams and only so much fertile land around the capital cities.

Most of that fertile land has houses on it - especially in Adelaide.

Exactly my point about infrastructure and ways of thinking.

Edited by chillbilly: 24/1/2013 10:16:07 AM
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what australia day means to me:
a day where i get to chill on the family yacht and count down the hottest 100

aka sfa, just a public holiday excuse
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afromanGT wrote:
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Australians are way too patriotic for their own good at times... Who gives a fuck? As long as it's safe to walk the streets at night and you're doing all right financially, I'm fairly happy.

Australians are incredibly un-partiotic. Look at the apathetic response in this thread.

There's bogan nationalism, which makes us all cringe. But there's no patriotism.

That must make us English even more unpatriotic. I just watched an insurance advert the other day and isntead of a saying people, it said Australians (certainly not an ad targeted at bogans). Woolies: Australians are fast food people. There's quite a list but I cba making it.

You sing national anthems at schools, patriotic songs in class. We don't in the UK.

Perhaps it's more of an indictment on British opinion of themselves but in my eyes, Australians are patriotic (maybe it's a colonial thing :-" ).

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Means; not Citizens Day.

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Ken, I think that's just because the british are boring and miserable.
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afromanGT wrote:
Australians are incredibly un-partiotic. Look at the apathetic response in this thread.

There's bogan nationalism, which makes us all cringe. But there's no patriotism.


I think most Aussies are patriotic, I just think it is understated and laidback as is our way...Aussies aren't so much into the jingoism of the yanks for example.

For many of us we're just rapt to have a long weekend with out families or at the football, or beach etc.. rather than waving a flag or standing to attention singing our anthem...mind you I do love hearing/singing our anthem at the football.

Edited by Joffa: 24/1/2013 08:46:47 PM
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It's usually just a day, but having it reminds me what a great country we live in. Good to have it.
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Harsh judgment awaits idiots with no respect for the fallen

by: SIMON BLACK From: The Daily Telegraph January 24, 2013 12:00AM

THE two men might have thought it was funny at the time but police have called them "disrespectful knuckleheads" for vandalising a memorial to fallen WWI soldiers.
Now they want them arrested.

The two men were caught on CCTV climbing on the Martin Place Cenotaph last Saturday before placing a traffic cone on the figure's head. Police said the men also bent the bayonet on the bronze model's rifle.

The pair also interfered with plants in a nearby flowerbed.

Police attempted to repair the bayonet on the night by straightening it while a passerby removed the traffic cone - which was taken away for forensic analysis.

The Sydney Cenotaph is the centre for Anzac Day commemorations and was unveiled 86 years ago.

Police are hoping to speak with three men who stopped and talked to the two men as they walked past.

"We are hoping the three men might recognise themselves and contact us or someone might know who they are and get them to speak with us," Rocks Police crime manager Detective Inspector Damian Loone said.

"It is important we find out what they know about the damage to the Martin Place Cenotaph."

It was the second time in four months the Cenotaph has been vandalised and the RSL has called for the strictest possible penalties to apply to the vandals.

"They looked like brainless yahoos, probably with a gutful of grog, just being stupid," NSW president of the RSL Don Rowe said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/harsh-judgment-awaits-idiots-with-no-respect-for-the-fallen/story-e6freuy9-1226560383732

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Joffa wrote:
For many of us we're just rapt to have a long weekend with out families or at the football, or beach etc.. rather than waving a flag or standing to attention singing our anthem...mind you I do love hearing/singing our anthem at the football.

I think that majority of the responses and attitude ammounts to 'I don't give a fuck about this country', people with little to no national pride or appreciation for all the things that they take for granted. And most of them have never had to fend for themselves in another country.
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afromanGT wrote:
Joffa wrote:
For many of us we're just rapt to have a long weekend with out families or at the football, or beach etc.. rather than waving a flag or standing to attention singing our anthem...mind you I do love hearing/singing our anthem at the football.

I think that majority of the responses and attitude ammounts to 'I don't give a fuck about this country', people with little to no national pride or appreciation for all the things that they take for granted. And most of them have never had to fend for themselves in another country.


+1

All you have to do is drive past all the slums in places like South Africa to realise just how lucky people are to grow up in countries like Australia. You hear people complain about being a "battler on the pension" and "having to shop at 8pm at night to buy the reduced to clear meat and bread" stories, and sure some people do it tough, but there is literally a billion + people in this world who would trade places with an Aussie "battler" in a heart beat.
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I consider myself lucky and am greatful that i live and was born here, but i never understood what the hell being 'proud' to be australian is meant to mean.
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catbert wrote:
I consider myself lucky and am greatful that i live and was born here, but i never understood what the hell being 'proud' to be australian is meant to mean.

I guess it's down to being proud of being involved in a community where you don't have to fear going down the street and that you've contributed to building one of the highest standards of living in the world.
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afromanGT wrote:
catbert wrote:
I consider myself lucky and am greatful that i live and was born here, but i never understood what the hell being 'proud' to be australian is meant to mean.

I guess it's down to being proud of being involved in a community where you don't have to fear going down the street and that you've contributed to building one of the highest standards of living in the world.


Again, greatfulness to my fellows is more the feeling there for me.
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catbert wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
catbert wrote:
I consider myself lucky and am greatful that i live and was born here, but i never understood what the hell being 'proud' to be australian is meant to mean.

I guess it's down to being proud of being involved in a community where you don't have to fear going down the street and that you've contributed to building one of the highest standards of living in the world.


Again, greatfulness to my fellows is more the feeling there for me.

Maybe you need to contribute more to the community to feel a sense of pride then.

I'm reminded of something Funky said yonks ago.
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Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:13:43 PM

It says a lot about the people of this forum, that they can express sentiments that they're "proud" of a man on the other side of the world's ability to be a cunt, but they aren't proud of the society they live in.
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afromanGT wrote:
catbert wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
catbert wrote:
I consider myself lucky and am greatful that i live and was born here, but i never understood what the hell being 'proud' to be australian is meant to mean.

I guess it's down to being proud of being involved in a community where you don't have to fear going down the street and that you've contributed to building one of the highest standards of living in the world.


Again, greatfulness to my fellows is more the feeling there for me.

Maybe you need to contribute more to the community to feel a sense of pride then.

I'm reminded of something Funky said yonks ago.
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Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:13:43 PM

It says a lot about the people of this forum, that they can express sentiments that they're "proud" of a man on the other side of the world's ability to be a cunt, but they aren't proud of the society they live in.


Not everyone has the same feelings about doing the same things you know.
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Well it's quite clear what it means to Joffa. He clogs up ET just to bump his post count.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:
Well it's quite clear what it means to Joffa. He clogs up ET just to bump his post count.

To be fair, ANY public holiday is a reason for Joffa to boost his post count.

You should see what he does on Lincoln day...
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Another long weekend for the public servants , it shits me that those who work on the real AUS day get nothing extra, while those that have the REAL day off , get to double dip on monday . We are truly the land of the long weekend (and i am a very proud aussie).
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jg wrote:
Another long weekend for the public servants , it shits me that those who work on the real AUS day get nothing extra, while those that have the REAL day off , get to double dip on monday . We are truly the land of the long weekend (and i am a very proud aussie).

I take it you're a hospitality worker then?
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afromanGT wrote:
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Another long weekend for the public servants , it shits me that those who work on the real AUS day get nothing extra, while those that have the REAL day off , get to double dip on monday . We are truly the land of the long weekend (and i am a very proud aussie).

I take it you're a hospitality worker then?

Yep , cooking in a pub .Don't get me wrong , good luck to those who get the day off .

Edited by jg: 25/1/2013 01:53:15 AM
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afromanGT wrote:
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For many of us we're just rapt to have a long weekend with out families or at the football, or beach etc.. rather than waving a flag or standing to attention singing our anthem...mind you I do love hearing/singing our anthem at the football.

I think that majority of the responses and attitude ammounts to 'I don't give a fuck about this country', people with little to no national pride or appreciation for all the things that they take for granted. And most of them have never had to fend for themselves in another country.


Many on this forum have never had to fend for themselves in THIS country, hence their lack of appreciation for what we have and how good we have it.

The wankers will equate "Australian values" with getting on the piss and racist boganry, but for me Australian values are a sense of equality between people and opportunity for all to better themselves if they put in the effort. Freedom of religion, association and political affilitation are part of it too.

We're far from being a perfect society, and there is much to improve, not the least the Aboriginal situation (although I'd argue that nearly 200 years of institutionalised discrimination can't be undone in the next 50 or so, but more still must be done today). But overall most people around the world view us very well, and would love to live here, which is a very good indicator of the society we are.

Not to be proud of that is the domain of the kind of people who don;t appreciate how good we have it.
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I don't want to start this argument again, but...I find it humorous that people will say on one hand "We're lucky to have been born in a country where we've got things so good" and then go on to say "We should be proud of being from that country".

If it's luck that put me here (and it was), then I don't see it as something to be proud of.
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Funky Munky wrote:
I don't want to start this argument again, but...I find it humorous that people will say on one hand "We're lucky to have been born in a country where we've got things so good" and then go on to say "We should be proud of being from that country".

If it's luck that put me here (and it was), then I don't see it as something to be proud of.

It was luck that saw you born here. But you could be literally ANYWHERE in the world right now, and you're still here.

Maybe if you contributed something to society you'd have more of a sense of pride at having helped to make our social environment unique and one of the best in the world.
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afromanGT wrote:
Funky Munky wrote:
I don't want to start this argument again, but...I find it humorous that people will say on one hand "We're lucky to have been born in a country where we've got things so good" and then go on to say "We should be proud of being from that country".

If it's luck that put me here (and it was), then I don't see it as something to be proud of.

It was luck that saw you born here. But you could be literally ANYWHERE in the world right now, and you're still here.

Maybe if you contributed something to society you'd have more of a sense of pride at having helped to make our social environment unique and one of the best in the world.


I await with bated breath for you to let us know what you have contributed to this society of ours.
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afromanGT wrote:
It was luck that saw you born here. But you could be literally ANYWHERE in the world right now, and you're still here.

Maybe if you contributed something to society you'd have more of a sense of pride at having helped to make our social environment unique and one of the best in the world.

I was going to write a response to this, but I honestly just don't care. This covers it nicely:

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I await with bated breath for you to let us know what you have contributed to this society of ours.


FFS, give it a rest.
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Funky Munky wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
It was luck that saw you born here. But you could be literally ANYWHERE in the world right now, and you're still here.

Maybe if you contributed something to society you'd have more of a sense of pride at having helped to make our social environment unique and one of the best in the world.

I was going to write a response to this, but I honestly just don't care. This covers it nicely:

So what you're saying is that if I work for charity, help the youth and contribute towards building the country that we identify as 'Australia' I shouldn't feel proud of that.
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Last time I checked working for charity isn't an "accident of birth", so no, that's not what he's saying.
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jlm8695 wrote:
Last time I checked working for charity isn't an "accident of birth", so no, that's not what he's saying.

well as he said, it's pure accident as to whether you're on the giving or receiving end of that.
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afromanGT wrote:
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Last time I checked working for charity isn't an "accident of birth", so no, that's not what he's saying.

well as he said, it's pure accident as to whether you're on the giving or receiving end of that.


In your original statement you said nothing about receiving charity (that I'll agree with you on, is pure luck), but giving to charity, helping the youth etc is something you can be proud of as you attained that, only you can make yourself do that (bar court imposed orders, but still, that's of your own actions etc)

Edited by jlm8695: 25/1/2013 03:51:08 PM
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jlm8695 wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
jlm8695 wrote:
Last time I checked working for charity isn't an "accident of birth", so no, that's not what he's saying.

well as he said, it's pure accident as to whether you're on the giving or receiving end of that.


In your original statement you said nothing about receiving charity (that I'll agree with you on, is pure luck), but giving to charity, helping the youth etc is something you can be proud of as you attained that, only you can make yourself do that (bar court imposed orders, but still, that's of your own actions etc)

Edited by jlm8695: 25/1/2013 03:51:08 PM

Yes, but it's down to pure luck that you're born in a country where we're majority on the giving end, rather than the receiving end of said charity.

I'm not sure a raging arrogant asshole (yes, takes one to know one) like George Carlin is exactly the kind of person you want to be quoting about this topic either.
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RJL25 wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
Joffa wrote:
For many of us we're just rapt to have a long weekend with out families or at the football, or beach etc.. rather than waving a flag or standing to attention singing our anthem...mind you I do love hearing/singing our anthem at the football.

I think that majority of the responses and attitude ammounts to 'I don't give a fuck about this country', people with little to no national pride or appreciation for all the things that they take for granted. And most of them have never had to fend for themselves in another country.


+1

All you have to do is drive past all the slums in places like South Africa to realise just how lucky people are to grow up in countries like Australia. You hear people complain about being a "battler on the pension" and "having to shop at 8pm at night to buy the reduced to clear meat and bread" stories, and sure some people do it tough, but there is literally a billion + people in this world who would trade places with an Aussie "battler" in a heart beat.

Or people whinging about having to pay a carbon tax. Poor battlers. No really.
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2. You believe that stubbies can be either drunk or worn.
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4. You waddle when you walk due to the 53 expired petrol discount vouchers stuffed in your wallet or purse.
5. You've made a bong out of your garden hose rather than use it for something illegal such as watering the garden.
6. You believe it is appropriate to put a rubber in your son's pencil case when he first attends school.
7. When you hear that an American "roots for his team" you wonder how often and with whom.
8. You understand that the phrase "a group of women wearing black thongs" refers to footwear and may be less alluring than it sounds.
9. You pronounce Melbourne as "Mel-bin".
10. You pronounce Penrith as "Pen-riff".
11. You believe the "l" in the word "Australia" is optional.
12. You can translate: "Dazza and Shazza played Acca Dacca on the way to Maccas."
13. You believe it makes perfect sense for a nation to decorate its highways with large fibreglass bananas, prawns and sheep.
14. You call your best friend "a total bastard" but someone you really, truly despise is just "a bit of a bastard".
15. You think "Woolloomooloo" is a perfectly reasonable name for a place.
16. You're secretly proud of our killer wildlife.
17. You believe it makes sense for a country to have a $1 coin that's twice as big as its $2 coin.
18. You understand that "Wagga Wagga" can be abbreviated to "Wagga" but "Woy Woy" can't be called "Woy".
19. You believe that cooked-down axlegrease makes a good breakfast spread.
20. You believe all famous Kiwis are actually Australian, until they stuff up, at which point they again become Kiwis.
21. Hamburger. Beetroot. Of course.
22. You know that certain words must, by law, be shouted out during any rendition of the Angels' song Am I Ever Gonna See Your Face Again.
23. You believe, as an article of faith, that the confectionary known as the Wagon Wheel has become smaller with every passing year.
24. You still don't get why the "Labor" in "Australian Labor Party" is not spelt with a "u".
25. You wear ugh boots outside the house.
26. You believe, as an article of faith, that every important discovery in the world was made by an Australian but then sold off to the Yanks for a pittance.
27. You believe that the more you shorten someone's name the more you like them.
28. Whatever your linguistic skills, you find yourself able to order takeaway fluently in every Asian language.
29. You understand that "excuse me" can sound rude, while "scuse me" is always polite.
30. You know what it's like to swallow a fly, on occasion via your nose.
31. You understand that "you" has a plural and that it's "youse".
32. You know it's not summer until the steering wheel is too hot to handle.
33. Your biggest family argument over the summer concerned the rules for beach cricket.
34. You shake your head in horror when companies try to market what they call "Anzac cookies".
35. You still think of Kylie as "that girl off Neighbours".
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37. You believe the phrase "smart casual" refers to a pair of black tracky-daks, suitably laundered.
38. You understand that all train timetables are works of fiction.
39. When working on a bar, you understand male customers will feel the need to offer an excuse whenever they order low-alcohol beer.
40. You get choked up with emotion by the first verse of the national anthem and then have trouble remembering the second.
41. You find yourself ignorant of nearly all the facts deemed essential in the government's new test for migrants.
42. You know, whatever the tourist books say, that no one says "cobber".
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Quote:
1. You know the meaning of the word "girt".

:lol: Most of australia doesn't know the meaning of the word girt :lol:
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(what is the meaning of the word girt?)
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KiwiChick1 wrote:
(what is the meaning of the word girt?)

Encompassed or surrounded by.
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afromanGT wrote:
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(what is the meaning of the word girt?)

Encompassed or surrounded by.


Now your national anthem makes so much more sense :lol:
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KiwiChick1 wrote:
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(what is the meaning of the word girt?)

Encompassed or surrounded by.


Now your national anthem makes so much more sense :lol:

Australians all let us ring joyce,
for she is young and free.
With gold and soil and wells of foil,
our home is gurbadee.

Our land a bounce,
in natures gifts,
of beauty, ritchy rare,

In history's page,
let every stage,
avdance australia fair.

Edited by afromanGT: 26/1/2013 07:00:27 PM
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                         I don't want to start this argument again, but...I find it humorous...
Funky Munky - 12 Years Ago
                         Funky Munky wrote: I don't want to start this argument again,...
afromanGT - 12 Years Ago
                         afromanGT wrote: Funky Munky wrote: I don't want to start this...
notorganic - 12 Years Ago
                         afromanGT wrote: It was luck that saw you born here. But you could...
Funky Munky - 12 Years Ago
                         notorganic wrote: I await with bated breath for you to let us know...
Fredsta - 12 Years Ago
                         Funky Munky wrote: afromanGT wrote: It was luck that saw you...
afromanGT - 12 Years Ago
                         Last time I checked working for charity isn't an "accident of birth",...
jlm8695 - 12 Years Ago
                         jlm8695 wrote: Last time I checked working for charity isn't an...
afromanGT - 12 Years Ago
                         afromanGT wrote: jlm8695 wrote: Last time I checked working for...
jlm8695 - 12 Years Ago
                         jlm8695 wrote: afromanGT wrote: jlm8695 wrote: Last time I...
afromanGT - 12 Years Ago
                         Rofllllllllllllllllll [youtube]xGRZpzie2vc[/youtube] -PB
paulbagzFC - 12 Years Ago
                         RJL25 wrote: afromanGT wrote: Joffa wrote: For many of us...
ozboy - 12 Years Ago
                         You know you're Australian if ... 1. You know the meaning of the word...
f1worldchamp - 12 Years Ago
                         :lol: :lol:
KiwiChick1 - 12 Years Ago
                         Quote: 1. You know the meaning of the word "girt". :lol: Most of...
afromanGT - 12 Years Ago
                         (what is the meaning of the word girt?)
KiwiChick1 - 12 Years Ago
                         KiwiChick1 wrote: (what is the meaning of the word girt?)...
afromanGT - 12 Years Ago
                         afromanGT wrote: KiwiChick1 wrote: (what is the meaning of the...
KiwiChick1 - 12 Years Ago
                         KiwiChick1 wrote: afromanGT wrote: KiwiChick1 wrote: (what is...
afromanGT - 12 Years Ago
                         monday off is what it means to me. and the big blue is generally on so...
shallow hal wants a gal - 12 Years Ago
                         Australia Day - What does it mean to you?
notorganic - 12 Years Ago
                         If you think that's not a plant then your not planted deep enough.
KenGooner_GCU - 12 Years Ago
                         Doesn't matter if it's set up or not, you can hear all the bogans,...
afromanGT - 12 Years Ago


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