chris
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I received this message in my inbox from Joffa Quote:Joffa Posted: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:34:29 PM WARNING: The next time you allege corruption, criminal behaviour or dishonesty by an A-League club/official, without facts I am going to ban you. That includes comments like Heart are going to fold at the end of the year without providing proof.
Joffa Even with the above warning - I feel compelled to advise that I have heard from various solid quarters MH investors have said "enough is enough - we are not putting in any more money" Luckily this is a break even season - or at least that is what we are told I know I know - where is the proof you ask?? Well 442 - how about you get Sidwell on the phone including some of the board and ask them to refute the above My info is solid and MH are in serious trouble As for the above note - I believe Heart will go broke - it is an opinion i have based on what I see and deliver my opinion to this forum Corruption is held by those that try to have us believe all is rosy at the Red and White One more thing - Joffa - you are too sensitive to anything that is negative to our game I am just as passionate as you about our game - however I don't see how ignorance can have a positive effect on our game If something is not working out - we need to identify it - address it and resolve it The Heart are a very weak link in this game - My opinion on the back of crowds of 5390 - re-affirms my position so rather than give me warnings..... >>>>>>
1. Pick up the phone 442 2. give MH a call 3. post some quotes from their board to reassure their small army and print on your FFA endorsed national magazine ......and 4. prove me wrong once and for all!!!Edited by chris: 13/3/2013 11:44:06 PM
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aufc_ole
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SM in MH out is all I got from that
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Roarz
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Just. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
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Roar_Brisbane
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Should be in the rumour mill at this stage.
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jlm8695
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People dismiss his opinions because he's a South fan, are you really any better than these supposed "mono ethnic" clubs that dont accept anyone in unless they're greek? There have been questions over Hearts financial viability since day dot, this is not a new realisation.
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TheSelectFew
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jlm8695 wrote:People dismiss his opinions because he's a South fan, are you really any better than these supposed "mono ethnic" clubs that dont accept anyone in unless they're greek? There have been questions over Hearts financial viability since day dot, this is not a new realisation. Nah his type ramp on without evidence, make up sources etc. Itsquite hilarious. I wonder if they actually believe their tripe. It's like going to a socialist rally trying to convince people that the state will work better than greedy capitalist investment. :roll: Keep trying bud.
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Dark Paladin
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Considering this from an analytical point of view, it's kind of interesting:
(1) Here's what I've heard and I have good sources (2) But I'm not going to tell you who my sources are or offer tangible proof (3) Why don't you go and make some enquiries to prove my story
@ chris, unless you are prepared to offer tangible evidence then I call bulldust on you.
And no, I don't have any real reason to support the Heart, Victory is my team.
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Roar #1
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For some reason I thought the FFA owned the Heart.
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KenGooner_GCU
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Is FourFourTwo liable where a user has posted a potentially defamatory comment? I can't imagine it would be but I don't blame Joffa for being on the safe side. If I'm honest OP, there's no need to be naming people, it's perfectly acceptable to say "I heard through the grapevine but I don't really know" or something.
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rusty
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I just spoke to Sidwell on my mobile phone and he categorically DENIES those rumours. If you don't believe me call him yourself and get 442 on it to refute it.
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macktheknife
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Quote:My info is solid and MH are in serious trouble Is your info solid like some of your other posts? http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=47363 - Heart will lose $6 million dollars in 2010/11, even though it was actually 2.5 million? Or: http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=59629 - Peter Sidwell wants out. October 2011 you posted that piece of 'solid' info. Some selected quotes of your bullshit: Quote:Melbourne Heart to go into administration within 2 weeks. Quote:The Heart will not be around next season - they are on life support Quote:Sidwell will definitely walk by the time the next season kicks off - I am certain of this Quote:As for the above note - I believe Heart will go broke - it is an opinion i have based on what I see and deliver my opinion to this forum Your thread has no evidence. I guess that's a ban then. You are playing a very dangerous game here Chris, you are opening yourself up to a libel claim. KenGooner_GCU wrote:Is FourFourTwo liable where a user has posted a potentially defamatory comment? I can't imagine it would be but I don't blame Joffa for being on the safe side. If I'm honest OP, there's no need to be naming people, it's perfectly acceptable to say "I heard through the grapevine but I don't really know" or something. I would doubt 442 would have action brought against it. It's far more likely that as they are warning Chris for his shit posts, that Sidwell (I'm not 100% sure if corporations can sue for libel) would ask 442 to remove the offending posts. Or Sidwell might merely decide to sue Chris only, and avoid asking 442 to do anything entirely related to removing or suing for the posts, but may request or legally require 442 to give any identification such as email or ip address to Sidwell's lawyers. It could be a very sticky situation for 442. My layman's view is that a lawsuit/case against 442 would fail, while no lawyer in their right mind would recommend going after 442 in the first place. Edited by macktheknife: 14/3/2013 01:18:51 AM
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shallow hal wants a gal
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How has this thread not been locked?
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paulbagzFC
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Dark Paladin wrote:Considering this from an analytical point of view, it's kind of interesting:
(1) Here's what I've heard and I have good sources (2) But I'm not going to tell you who my sources are or offer tangible proof (3) Why don't you go and make some enquiries to prove my story
@ chris, unless you are prepared to offer tangible evidence then I call bulldust on you.
And no, I don't have any real reason to support the Heart, Victory is my team. This farken. P.S. Hasn't been locked coz Joffa is snoozin. -PB
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phreeky
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How about you agree to leave this forum for good if your claims turn out to be false?
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macktheknife
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phreeky wrote:How about you agree to leave this forum for good if your claims turn out to be false? We already did something similar with Mister Football and that didn't stick. :lol:
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crimsoncrusoe
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chris wrote:I received this message in my inbox from Joffa Quote:Joffa Posted: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:34:29 PM WARNING: The next time you allege corruption, criminal behaviour or dishonesty by an A-League club/official, without facts I am going to ban you. That includes comments like Heart are going to fold at the end of the year without providing proof.
Joffa Even with the above warning - I feel compelled to advise that I have heard from various solid quarters MH investors have said "enough is enough - we are not putting in any more money" Luckily this is a break even season - or at least that is what we are told I know I know - where is the proof you ask?? Well 442 - how about you get Sidwell on the phone including some of the board and ask them to refute the above My info is solid and MH are in serious trouble As for the above note - I believe Heart will go broke - it is an opinion i have based on what I see and deliver my opinion to this forum Corruption is held by those that try to have us believe all is rosy at the Red and White One more thing - Joffa - you are too sensitive to anything that is negative to our game I am just as passionate as you about our game - however I don't see how ignorance can have a positive effect on our game If something is not working out - we need to identify it - address it and resolve it The Heart are a very weak link in this game - My opinion on the back of crowds of 5390 - re-affirms my position so rather than give me warnings..... >>>>>>
1. Pick up the phone 442 2. give MH a call 3. post some quotes from their board to reassure their small army and print on your FFA endorsed national magazine ......and 4. prove me wrong once and for all!!!Edited by chris: 13/3/2013 11:44:06 PM I imagine you sitting in a corner with a tin foil hat on your head talking to your sources.
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Fourfiveone
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442 forum members have said ENOUGH!!! Roarz wrote:Just. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
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Bowden
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Forza South Malbourneeeeeee opa!
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Joffa
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And yet it was only a matter of weeks ago that MH were making offers to Lucas Neill and David Beckham....maybe they weren't offering money...
anyway rumour mill.
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YerNathanael
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It must be true. I mean people wouldn't just go on the internet and tell lies. :D :D
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Poid
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chris wrote:something something...Melbourne Heart...something something...attendances...something something south melbourne...something something... NSL...something something HELLAS
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Create an entirley different thread category called 'chris' petty Heart threads'.
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Red_or_Dead
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chris wrote:I received this message in my inbox from Joffa Quote:Joffa Posted: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:34:29 PM WARNING: The next time you allege corruption, criminal behaviour or dishonesty by an A-League club/official, without facts I am going to ban you. That includes comments like Heart are going to fold at the end of the year without providing proof.
Joffa ... The Heart are a very weak link in this game - My opinion on the back of crowds of 5390 - re-affirms my positionso rather than give me warnings..... >>>>>>
1. Pick up the phone 442 2. give MH a call 3. post some quotes from their board to reassure their small army and print on your FFA endorsed national magazine ......and 4. prove me wrong once and for all!!! Soooo...it's your opinion that re-affirms that Heart are a very weak link? Aah-ha! I don't think it's ANYONE'S job let alone Joffa's or 442's have to prove you wrong or otherwise...you're the one with the wild accusations and no evidence or sources to back it up so it should be YOU that needs to prove you are NOT wrong! Ban him Joffa. <-- that's quite catchy, I'd put it up there along with "Chop it daddy" and "sick'em rex" :lol:
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f1worldchamp
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chris wrote:>>>>>>
1. Pick up the phone 442 2. give MH a call 3. post some quotes from their board to reassure their small army and print on your FFA endorsed national magazine ......and 4. prove me wrong once and for all!!! You do realise that when make these accusations the burden to supply proof is on YOU. If you can't produce evidence, STFU.
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Benjamin
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Joffa wrote:And yet it was only a matter of weeks ago that MH were making offers to Lucas Neill and David Beckham....maybe they weren't offering money...
anyway rumour mill. I'm pretty sure that Chris is getting carried away with his initial post - however, I wouldn't go using bids for Neill and Beckham as proof that the investors aren't sick. Neill was a short term deal on (apparently) lowish wages, and was a move which would have raised quite a bit of interest. No brainer. Beckham - one of the most marketable players in the world, I'm sure even sick-to-the-gills investors would see the benefit in putting a package together for him - he is one of the few players in the world who could generate enough income to make such a deal worthwhile... No brainer. That's all assuming that the offer was genuine. It's very easy to make a bid on a player (and make sure everyone knows you are making it), with no financial risk, if you make the offer relatively low. Heart wouldn't be the first team in the world to make a public move for a player they didn't actually expect to sign. In the meantime - whilst making bids for Neill and Beckham - who was it they actually signed? Jamie Coyne, wasn't it?
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f1worldchamp
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So the most you can say about your mate is he's 'getting carried away'. Making serious accusations without a shred of evidence is getting carried away? At least Joffa takes moderating seriously.
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Poid wrote:chris wrote:something something...Melbourne Heart...something something...attendances...something something south melbourne...something something... NSL...something something HELLAS
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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pv4
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major league baseball is spying on us pretty much around the clock. if you don't believe me, give them a call and find out.
now do you want me to contribute to this forum like a normal person, or do you want to watch me sock a few dingers?
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GCU till I die
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Did read, but didn't learn anything.
Maybe Heart's board have learnt from Tinklers negotiation tactics though. There's still no queue of new clubs waiting to fill a vacant 10th spot.
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