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Buzz Aldrin says US must colonise Mars with a permanent human presence by 2030-2040 by:Kerry Sheridan From: AAP May 09, 2013 BUZZ Aldrin, the US astronaut who was the second man to walk on the moon, says his country must lead the way toward building a permanent settlement on Mars. Speaking at a conference of space experts in the US capital on today, the 83-year-old said the United States should apply what it learned decades ago by reaching the moon toward building a new colony on the Red Planet. "The US needs to begin homesteading and settlement of Mars," Aldrin said at the Humans to Mars conference at George Washington University. "It is within reach." His call for US leadership in the space race to Mars largely lines up with plans set forth by NASA and President Barack Obama's administration to send the first people to Mars in the 2030s. But unlike NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, who acknowledged at the start of the three-day conference that significant technological gaps remain, Aldrin said the bulk of the research has already been done. "There is really very little new research that is required," he said, calling for cash investment and political will to sustain the vision of a permanent dual-planetary society. "The US needs to continue to be the human space transportation leader and I think we can capitalise on the dynamism of the commercial market to develop a landing system that can truly become the basis for a US highway to space." Aldrin, who has authored a new book titled Mission to Mars: My Vision for Space Exploration, said the title should have been Missions to Mars since the trips will be many and the human presence should be continuous. "We are talking about multiple missions to eventually settle and colonise Mars," said Aldrin, who also plugged his plan to send spacecraft on cycling orbits that would engage in perpetual trajectories between earth and Mars. "We should focus our attention on establishing a permanent human presence on Mars by the 2030-2040 decade. "The United States will be a beacon for the development of humanity." Aldrin described how there could be different modular habitats on Mars, perhaps built by the world's various space agencies from China, Europe, India, Japan and Russia, with the US in the leadership role. He said a first step would be to send three people to the Martian moon Phobos "and use that year and a half to oversee the robotic deployment of the international Mars base". He derided those who have suggested that people who make the trip to Mars may be able to come back to earth afterward. "There is no other choice than to commit to permanence on Mars," Aldrin said. "I just don't think you can have one-shot forays to the surface of Mars." Aldrin was the lunar module pilot on Apollo 11. On July 20, 1969, he and Neil Armstrong became the first humans to set foot on the moon. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/technology/buzz-aldrin-says-us-must-colonise-mars-with-a-permanent-human-presence-by-2030-2040/story-fn7celvh-1226638400114
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Honestly would rather the private sector look into this more than Nasa. Space will only be worth it, when it actually is worth it to someone, but obviously at some point in time the issue of national territory will come into the fold should we ever colonise another area of space. The New World only took off when it became profitable, I'd imagine history would repeat itself if we ever took the next step. I'm not sure if it'll be in my lifetime though.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:Would live on Mars
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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OK Buzz, you got 10 Trillion lying around? NASA/US Government sure don't.
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As soon as we get to mars, we'll just destroy it like we have this planet.
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sydneyfc1987 wrote:OK Buzz, you got 10 Trillion lying around? NASA/US Government sure don't. Wrong way to think about it.
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notorganic wrote:sydneyfc1987 wrote:OK Buzz, you got 10 Trillion lying around? NASA/US Government sure don't. Wrong way to think about it. I have an old space book from my childhood somewhere saying we'll be back on the moon by 2005 and on Mars by 2015. It hasn't happened/won't happen because of the enormous costs involved getting people into space. On the other hand, the technological advancements in robotics has meant probes and rovers can do all the same shit or even more for the fraction of the price. So until somebody builds Authur C Clarke's space elevator its not gonna happen.
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Send all the ultraz! At least they know how to light the flares if they strike any trouble.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:Would live on Mars Did anyone post this on here? AFP wrote:Dutch reality show seeks one-way astronauts for Mars NEW YORK — Are you crazy enough to sign up for a one-way trip to Mars? Applications are now being accepted by the makers of a Dutch reality show that says it will deliver the first humans to the Red Planet in 10 years. The main requirements are strong health, good people and survival skills, being 18 or older, and having a reasonable grasp of the English language. The non-profit company, called "Mars One," aims to land its first four astronauts in 2023 for a televised reality show that would follow the exploits of the first humans to attempt to establish a colony on Mars. A range of potential pitfalls might prevent the project from becoming a reality, including the inability to return to Earth, the small living quarters and the lack of food and water on Mars. Assuming of course, that radiation endured during the trip is not lethal, and that any spacecraft is able to negotiate a volatile landing onto the harsh Martian landscape. Nevertheless, Mars One founder Bas Lansdorp told a New York press conference on Monday that organizers had received 10,000 messages from prospective applicants in over 100 different countries in the past year. In all Mars One is seeking six groups of four people each. A new quartet would make the seven-month journey every two years after the first crew departs in 2022. Lansdorp said the plan is to use technology and equipment from those who have already made it, and not to start from scratch. A series of rovers would be sent to Mars first before the human mission would be attempted. The overall cost for the first manned mission is about six billion dollars, he said. "It sounds like a lot of money. And actually it is a lot of money. But imagine what will happen when the first people land on Mars. Literally everybody on the globe will want to see it," Lansdorp said. The project has garnered plenty of skeptics but is backed by Dutch Nobel laureate Gerard 't Hooft, who won the 1999 prize for physics. The world's space agencies have only managed to send unmanned robotic rovers to Mars so far, the latest being NASA's $2.5 billion Curiosity rover which touched down in August 2012. Key attributes for applicants, according to Mars One medical director Norbert Kraft, are being adaptable, resilient, creative and having empathy. "Can you really work with other people from other countries, as a team?" he asked. Many questions remain about how the astronauts would survive on a planet with a temperature of minus 55 degrees C (minus 67 F) and whose atmosphere consists mainly of carbon dioxide. But the company's representatives insisted that their mission is ethically sound. "The long term aim is to have a lasting colony," said Hooft. "This expansion will not be easy," he added. "How soon that will be accomplished is anyone's guess." The deadline for the first round of online applications is August 31. The application fee differs by country; from the United States it costs $38.
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By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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2035 will mark the time when as much time has passed between then and the Moon Landing in 1969 as there was between the Moon Landing and the Wright brother's first powered flight in 1903.
Pretty depressing.
And still no hoverboards.
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sydneyfc1987 wrote:notorganic wrote:sydneyfc1987 wrote:OK Buzz, you got 10 Trillion lying around? NASA/US Government sure don't. Wrong way to think about it. I have an old space book from my childhood somewhere saying we'll be back on the moon by 2005 and on Mars by 2015. It hasn't happened/won't happen because of the enormous costs involved getting people into space. On the other hand, the technological advancements in robotics has meant probes and rovers can do all the same shit or even more for the fraction of the price. So until somebody builds Authur C Clarke's space elevator its not gonna happen. This is fucking retard logic. Do you know how many trillions of private dollars have been made from the domestication of the technology developed for the original moon landing?
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paladisious wrote:2035 will mark the time when as much time has passed between then and the Moon Landing in 1969 as there was between the Moon Landing and the Wright brother's first powered flight in 1903.
Pretty depressing.
And still no hoverboards. There haven't been any major global conflicts to accelerate the development of technology in that time period though.
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notorganic wrote:sydneyfc1987 wrote:notorganic wrote:sydneyfc1987 wrote:OK Buzz, you got 10 Trillion lying around? NASA/US Government sure don't. Wrong way to think about it. I have an old space book from my childhood somewhere saying we'll be back on the moon by 2005 and on Mars by 2015. It hasn't happened/won't happen because of the enormous costs involved getting people into space. On the other hand, the technological advancements in robotics has meant probes and rovers can do all the same shit or even more for the fraction of the price. So until somebody builds Authur C Clarke's space elevator its not gonna happen. This is fucking retard logic. Do you know how many trillions of private dollars have been made from the domestication of the technology developed for the original moon landing? What the FUCK does that have to do with the human race not yet having the means to achieve a manned mars mission without spending an unprecedented amount of money? Why did NASA stop sending people to the moon if it was making people so rich? Manned space travel in its most simple form is HIDEOUSLY expensive. Thats why so few nations have even attempted to try it. Amazing a feat as it was, the Apollo program was nothing more than the result of a dick measuring contest between the USA and the USSR. Yes, technology has made big differences in our lives but it does not change the fact that rockets cost a fuckload does it?
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sydneyfc1987 wrote:Manned space travel in its most simple form is HIDEOUSLY expensive. Thats why so few nations have even attempted to try it. Amazing a feat as it was, the Apollo program was nothing more than the result of a dick measuring contest between the USA and the USSR. Yes, technology has made big differences in our lives but it does not change the fact that rockets cost a fuckload does it? To be fair, there are a lot of nations with a space program.
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Heineken wrote:11.mvfc.11 wrote:Would live on Mars  [youtube]OSmYt2JG_eM[/youtube] [youtube]s3TXc5Befzo[/youtube] http://vimeo.com/53767959[youtube]ECxf_EhXxLc[/youtube] "GET YOUR ASS TO MARS!"[youtube]7sPUpKGI1Z4[/youtube] "Open your mind..."Edited by GloryPerth: 10/5/2013 12:39:37 AM
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afromanGT wrote:sydneyfc1987 wrote:Manned space travel in its most simple form is HIDEOUSLY expensive. Thats why so few nations have even attempted to try it. Amazing a feat as it was, the Apollo program was nothing more than the result of a dick measuring contest between the USA and the USSR. Yes, technology has made big differences in our lives but it does not change the fact that rockets cost a fuckload does it? To be fair, there are a lot of nations with a space program. Today I learned about the (mooted) Pan-Arab Space Agency good luck to them in bringing Sharia law into space, maybe they'll put a veil on Venus :lol: Although there's a lot of countries with scientific agencies that listen in to satellites or whatever (like Australia's CSIRO) the fact is only three countries have put humans into space, and no one's bothered to go further than we did 44 years ago. We've got a lot of work to do.
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paladisious wrote:afromanGT wrote:sydneyfc1987 wrote:Manned space travel in its most simple form is HIDEOUSLY expensive. Thats why so few nations have even attempted to try it. Amazing a feat as it was, the Apollo program was nothing more than the result of a dick measuring contest between the USA and the USSR. Yes, technology has made big differences in our lives but it does not change the fact that rockets cost a fuckload does it? To be fair, there are a lot of nations with a space program. Today I learned about the (mooted) Pan-Arab Space Agency good luck to them in bringing Sharia law into space, maybe they'll put a veil on Venus :lol: Although there's a lot of countries with scientific agencies that listen in to satellites or whatever (like Australia's CSIRO) the fact is only three countries have put humans into space, and no one's bothered to go further than we did 44 years ago. We've got a lot of work to do. India, Russia, USA, China...that's four off the top of my head.
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afromanGT wrote:paladisious wrote:afromanGT wrote:sydneyfc1987 wrote:Manned space travel in its most simple form is HIDEOUSLY expensive. Thats why so few nations have even attempted to try it. Amazing a feat as it was, the Apollo program was nothing more than the result of a dick measuring contest between the USA and the USSR. Yes, technology has made big differences in our lives but it does not change the fact that rockets cost a fuckload does it? To be fair, there are a lot of nations with a space program. Today I learned about the (mooted) Pan-Arab Space Agency good luck to them in bringing Sharia law into space, maybe they'll put a veil on Venus :lol: Although there's a lot of countries with scientific agencies that listen in to satellites or whatever (like Australia's CSIRO) the fact is only three countries have put humans into space, and no one's bothered to go further than we did 44 years ago. We've got a lot of work to do. India, Russia, USA, China...that's four off the top of my head. I don't think India has put their own people into space yet, although there was that famous Indian NASA astronaut that died when space shuttle Columbia blew up.
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afromanGT wrote:sydneyfc1987 wrote:Manned space travel in its most simple form is HIDEOUSLY expensive. Thats why so few nations have even attempted to try it. Amazing a feat as it was, the Apollo program was nothing more than the result of a dick measuring contest between the USA and the USSR. Yes, technology has made big differences in our lives but it does not change the fact that rockets cost a fuckload does it? To be fair, there are a lot of nations with a space program. Yet only two of these countries (not even the USA) currently have the capability to put a man in space.
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afromanGT wrote:paladisious wrote:2035 will mark the time when as much time has passed between then and the Moon Landing in 1969 as there was between the Moon Landing and the Wright brother's first powered flight in 1903.
Pretty depressing.
And still no hoverboards. There haven't been any major global conflicts to accelerate the development of technology in that time period though. This... The US space program was largely helped by the 'discoveries' and 'research' the 'Nazi' scientists made back in the 40's (the experiments that were conducted on live 'subjects' as well as the various weaponry developed - V2 rockets, the various prototype aircraft developed for the luftwaffe). If you believe some of the more 'out there' theories about the Nazi's, they were also apparently looking at space travel: http://www.armaghplanet.com/blog/nazis-in-space.htmlIt will take a major conflict/disaster on Earth for us to seriously start looking at colonizing other planets.
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Of course, Werner Von Braun, inventor of the V2, also designed the Saturn V for NASA. His biography was "I aim for the stars", someone else added "but sometimes I hit London".
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