Turn-of-the-century TV: the true horror exposed


Turn-of-the-century TV: the true horror exposed

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playmaker11 wrote:
Thank fuck TV is so much better today...

:lol:=d> =d>
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Thank fuck TV is so much better today...

By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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I'm sorry, but any list missing that black hole Everybody Loves Raymond cannot be taken seriously. I voted Seinfeld since it is a stand up comic routine using situation comedy but as a TV show.

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Kamaryn wrote:

*Rant inspired by the fact that I had tipped the Tigers in my NRL tipping comp and changed with 1 minute before kickoff, only for the Tigers to win with 2 minutes to go...

Edited by Kamaryn: 24/5/2013 10:49:29 PM

LEICHHARDT OVAL IS A FORTRESS!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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RedKat wrote:
I am that sole that voted Seinfeld. Ive seen a fair few episodes and find it exceptionally plain, unfunny and really not that good. Never get its hype.

Y'know...I used to think you were cool. :lol: =;

Fucking love Seinfeld myself, huge fan, along with my dad.

WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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Can't believe Seinfeld is on this list! It was a brilliant show.

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Dammit, I voted Melrose Place without seeing Sex and the City there.

Also, what a stupid critique of Friends.* Just because it doesn't fit her overly feminist, anti-marriage position it is somehow bad? "Marriage = bad, so Friends is bad for treating it like it's something to aspire too; giving up career for someone = bad and offensive to women therefore the series finale is bad; implied gay jokes (which are minimal at most) = bad and offensive; any conservatism = bad bad bad". And Dawson's Creek is all white privilege with its redeeming quality that an actor came out?

I know I am probably overreacting too, but come on! Condemning a show just because it differs from your worldview? The most offensive thing about 90s television is that it inspired this poor attempt of an article.


*Rant inspired by the fact that I had tipped the Tigers in my NRL tipping comp and changed with 1 minute before kickoff, only for the Tigers to win with 2 minutes to go...

Edited by Kamaryn: 24/5/2013 10:49:29 PM
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Loved the first few seasons of Seinfeld when Larry David was writing. Thought they went downhill fast once he stopped, became very laboured and simply not funny imo.
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RedKat wrote:
I am that sole that voted Seinfeld. Ive seen a fair few episodes and find it exceptionally plain, unfunny and really not that good. Never get its hype.

I can understand why people don't like Seinfeld. I can only watch a couple of episodes of it before I have to watch something else.

As Benjo said, all the main characters are arseholes.
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afromanGT wrote:


Also, how is Buffy not on that list? .


I thought about putting it on the list, then I remembered it was Buffy and left it off.
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RedKat wrote:
I am that sole that voted Seinfeld. Ive seen a fair few episodes and find it exceptionally plain, unfunny and really not that good. Never get its hype.


Seinfeld I can understand people not liking. I love it, but I think it's one of those shows you either really like or you really hate it.
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Friends was my childhood. I know so many people that grew up loving it too. You have made many an enemy today Clementine Ford.
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Why is Seinfeld in the poll? It's also brilliant. On par with Friends for me. I actually think Seinfeld is funnier, but I have more of an attachment to the characters in Friends. The main characters in Seinfeld are horrible people really :lol: Except Kramer. Kramer is brilliant.
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Benjo wrote:
GTFO, Friends is awesome. Love how she says it's so conservative and then gives just two examples. Fuck off.

+1.
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Friends was a part of growing up for so many people. It was a great show. Plus the idea that people can live in an inner-NYC apartment despite having no discernible income and/or patchy income at best was HILARIOUS.

Dawson's Creek and Party of Five were bad, but Sex and the City was by far the worst tv show of the 90's and early 00's. The absurd messages it sent to women about what constituted 'mr right' and the notion that you should continue to chase a man who fucks you about until you're well into middle age is just stupid. Not to mention it put Sarah Jessica Parker's face on our screens on a weekly basis, which is a heinous enough crime in itself. And as a bartender, re-popularising the joke of a drink that is a Cosmopolitan should be a death sentence.

Also, how is Buffy not on that list? I mean...I loved the show, and young adolescent Afro is thankful we got to see a young and nubile Sarah Michelle Gellar strutting about. But it really was a terrible show.
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GTFO, Friends is awesome. Love how she says it's so conservative and then gives just two examples. Fuck off.
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Turn-of-the-century TV: the true horror exposed


May 23, 2013 - 11:59PM

Clementine Ford

Last week, I was lucky enough to contract a flu so violent that it sent me to bed for three days straight, sent all the water that exists in the world directly to my head, and made me see the face of God (shiny!).

My muscles had atrophied to the point where I could only crawl to the living room where daytime TV reruns awaited. Flu-related delusions aside, do any of you know how bad Friends is? Because it's really, really bad. In fact, a lot of those zeitgeisty shows from the late '90s/early 2000s are terrible. At the time, we thought they defined a generation. Looking back on them now, I realised it wasn't just the fever related sweat sticking to my dressing gown that had taken on a putrid smell.

So here, in no particular order, are five of the most awful shows ever made that were once – much like 'The Rachel' – thought hip and so fetch but have since revealed themselves to be, well, crap.


1. Friends


Long before Girls was accused of whitewashing New York, six friends lived within a stone's throw from each other in one of the most expensive cities on earth. They spent their evenings sitting on the pristine couch of a mentally ill woman, whose tragic descent into OCD may or may not have had something to do with her traumatic adolescence as a *whispers* ... fat girl. Sometimes, they hung out drinking buckets of coffee in the quirkily named Central Perk. Its quippy name seems to indicate the gang live somewhere around the Upper West Side, whose gentrified enclaves seem at odds with the fact that, for most of the Friends, work hours appeared optional. This laissez faire approach to money probably also explains why none of them ever locked their doors. But in a city entirely stocked with white people, why would you need to worry about crime?

While it was screening, Friends seemed relatively inoffensive. But rewatching it shows just how conservative it really was. Marriage as a form of success is a big theme, while the affectionate friendship between the guys gives rise to lots of "hilarious" jokes about how gross it is to be gay. And even though Ross is basically a psychopathic stalker who may or may not be making a suit out of human skin, Rachel still gives up her dream job at the show's end so that they can satisfy the audience's desire to have really horrendous relationships modelled to them via the magic of television. I'll be there for you Rachel ... always.



2. Sex and the City

When I was in New York, a young Australian woman approached me on 34th Street and asked how to get to Spring Street in SoHo. I pointed out the subway entrance to her, and told her it was only a few stops down the line. “Do you think it's safe?” she asked, gripping her Louis Vuitton handbag. “I mean, do you think I should get a taxi?” I assured her it was really safe - the Friends didn't even lock their doors, remember? But if she were really worried, she could walk to Spring Street. It was only a few blocks, and if she gripped the walls behind her on the sidewalk then she could probably avoid running into one of the rapists on SVU. “I think I should catch a cab,” she said, looking worried. “OK,” I replied, having already stopped caring. She flagged one down, just like Carrie had taught her to, and went all the way to SoHo to find Magnolia Bakery. I assume that's where she was going, because the only people who come to New York to catch cabs are people who bought the box set of Sex and the City and care about which archetype they are. And they never want to be Miranda, because even though Miranda is smart and successful and so pale she's almost translucent, producer Darren Star apparently hates women so for most of the series her hair looked like it belonged on '80s Feminist Barbie. And now she's a lesbian.

Watching this show is a bit like watching a Hen's Night bedecked in plastic penises screaming at passing men to kiss them while simultaneously choking on the cloud of their own perfume. You kind of want them all to be run over by a car, but you also can't look away.


3. Dawson's Creek

The theme of white privilege continues with a show which is probably singlehandedly responsible for the fact that any of us have to know who Katie Holmes is right now. The eponymous Dawson had the kind of floppy blonde hair that I guess middle-aged male TV executives think girls like, so for a while I think he was supposed to be the romantic lead. Unfortunately, nothing slays a lady boner quite like seeing a grown man in shorts and socks except seeing a grown man in shorts and socks crying.



Sorry Dawson.

In fact, the only good things to come out of Dawson's Creek were Michelle Williams and Joshua Jackson. Jack came out in Dawson's Creek, and that was pretty good for gay teens. And Katie Holmes sang this, which I think we can all agree sums up the production qualities and overall appeal of DC.



4. Beverly Hills 90210

This will be an unpopular inclusion. Beverly Hills 90210 (or just 90210 for those who were there) had just enough cheese, drama and PSA storylines to elevate it to cult status. And that was just behind the scenes.

But it was still dominated by rich white folks battling rich white folk problems – cocaine abuse, car troubles and whether or not Aaron Spelling would ever let Tori boink on camera. Sure, it took a look at teen suicide and teen pregnancy (but as if swotty Andrea would have really sacrificed her life to a child in real life – having a baby doesn't get you on the honour roll, what they can do teen suicide but not teen abortion?) but on the whole the biggest things to happen in that show were Tori Spelling's boobs. They also remain its most famous stars.

5. Party of Five

The show about five orphaned children suddenly and left to fend for themselves was not really what I'd call a party, unless by "party" you mean wake. It introduced the world to what I like to call the Party of Five school of method acting. Basically, this involved the characters engaging in dialogue so heartfelt that they literally couldn't continue looking into each other's faces and instead had to sort of raise an arm to their side so as to provide a visual cue to pull their eyes out of the tractor beam of emotion pulsating between them. They then direct the rest of their feelings to their hands, before allowing their eyes to finally swing back to starting position when it seems like their hearts have sufficiently recovered. Neve Campbell was especially good at this move and has continued to use it to great effect in all the movies she's never been cast in since Scream 5000.

If I had to describe the show in a single sentence, it would probably be this: an avalanche of emotions running down the side of a mountain of feelings caused by a thunderclap of heartache and contained in a single crystallised tear of sorrow.

And there it is. Basically, the turn of the millennium was exceptionally uncool for television. Our "zeitgeist" had no taste and no vision, which was actually physically a lot like myself during the flu that precipitated this little walk down memory lane. Thankfully I'm better now, and I can get back to television I've now grown to love - epic torture and Machiavellian moves on Game of Thrones, and Connie Britton's Hair on Nashville.

Good times.

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