Even though I cop flack on this forum I have continually broken news on 442 - particularly where smfc is concerned so hear me when I say....I Know that the FFA are in fact very much the architect of the NPLV model

The FFA directed the FFV for their Champions League model in Victoria 5 years ago with an objective to have Licensees representing each zone as the premiere comp in this state over arching the existing state leagues

Today Vuctoria is isolated with its version of the NPL for good reason

Victoria is the strongest state league in the country with an assett rich membership (clubs)

If the Victorian Version of the NPL was executed nationally this year across all the states then the stronger state league cubs would surely form a break away national football league -> at the very least the Eastern and Southern states

By 2022 Football will have a revolution in place in Australia

AFC has demanded a true national 2nd tier (not by state) be in place with promotion and relegation by 2022

Problem with the game in Australia is that Currently the FFA HAL model is driven by a licencing trademarked model which is privately run by its investors and formulated so that the financials of each club is centrally managed and distributed to its franchises after licence, administrative and running costs are withheld - this means that the HAL Licences are the sub servants to the FFA and the program is designed for the FFA to be the beneficiary whilst the clubs take the risks

The issue is not about allowing ethnic teams to 1 day have the opportunity to to be promoted into National Football - but more specifically clubs that are not licensed the opportunity

The FFA MASTER PLAN is to ensure that - clubs are buried down beneath the commercial line at a community level within a localized zone meaning proud clubs such as Melbourne Knights will only participate within its zone with a lid on any potential opportunities to once again become a commercial reality as their success will not provide revenue for the FFA even though this will be good for football by way of diversity and reach V the other codes

The Plan

Commencement in Victoria is a critical step for the FFA to replace a non licensed club competition from playing at the highest level in its state and within reach of 1 day participating at a national level by implementing a competition that will field new licenced consortiums as the Premiere competition within its state

Once implemented in VIC: Qld and NSW are next and they too will have the same model imposed within their states with a fully fledged National Premiere Licenced League in turn with its non licenced membership driven clubs participating in their own zones as sub servants to their licensed zonal rep

The Resistence

Club unification in Victoria was not expected and an historic moment

This will land at the Supreme Court and more specifically the issue will potentially be unresolved for up to 5 years meaning that VIC will operate minus a NPL version of its own thus severely impacting the objective to spread the current NPL_V model nationally to the other states

Also the 50 clubs have centralised their resources to fight this at all levels for as long as it takes

Also just as pertinent is the fact that clubs interstate are also looped in as to ensure that unification is not only within the confines of VIC but shaping the future of the game nationally - they have been briefed and are monitoring carefully the outcome in VIC as this will no doubt shape the game Nationally and fear for their own welfare should the NPL_V Model be implemented in VIC

A National Tier 2 by 2022 is being shaped only for private and licensed consortiums (....if the FFA has its way)

2 Universes will collide and a new one will be formed

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One more thing

I have no doubt this thread will be locked:lol:




Edited by chris: 31/8/2013 05:57:06 PM

You didn't realise the FFA was behind the FFV's actions?

Joffa - I knew this since the summer league was drawn up 5 years ago

More specifically, It does not bother you that there is a plan in place to restrict certain elements of our game to grow?

Specifically the organic elements?

The FFA will need to come out and intervene as I can see this dragging out for up to 5 years - Our place in ASIA may be at stake

Edited by chris: 31/8/2013 05:59:38 PM

"even though this will be good for football by way of diversity and reach V the other codes"

Could you explain this bit please, thank you.

Game has a strong organic sector - hampering the growth of this sector by placing organic clubs in an underground competition and replacing them with manufactured franchises that noone will follow is not good for the game

There are plenty of things about Australian Football that bother me, but the future and our place in Asia aren't among them, I have deliberately kept out of this discussion other than to highlight some of the more obvious claims of hubris.

And for the record I do not wish harm on any club, state league or otherwise.

You have to ask yourself this question, why is it after everything that has happened in Australian Football in the last ten years, there are some clubs that have refused to notice or acknowledge the changing landscape and have refused to adjust accordingly.

It is not the new dawn confining some clubs to a state of irrelevance, it is the clubs themselves.

Part of the problem is you attribute the growth of the last ten years to the good work of the State League clubs, the FFV/FFA will probably tell you that the growth has come despite them....in fact with their NPL and zonal policies they are quite clearly telling you that.

Edited by Joffa: 31/8/2013 06:36:10 PM

Edited by Joffa: 31/8/2013 06:42:51 PM

Benjamin and I discussed this very premise in a thread about 12-18 months ago.

I think you will find that most clubs are willing to adopt and adapt and most clubs - even the x NSL brigade will tell you change was necessary

However the NPL_V is not inclusive - but rather exclusive

It is purposefully designed to exclude clubs and in their place to bring in licences that will require investors rather than community

To be honest the clubs don't have an issue with that part - if the NPL is not for them - it simply means they do not apply

Where the issue lies and also provides concrete legal grounds is the plan to marginalise clubs by restricting their commercial potential to have them play within a certain zone as a sub servant to their zonal rep beneath the surface

FFA Plan is to have this system in NSW and QLD next once VIC sets the precedent

If successful; all community clubs will not ever have an opportunity for organic growth

It will squeeze their lifeblood to a standstill and for the consortiums to land grab their assets

I can see court case lasting years on end

Edited by chris: 31/8/2013 11:15:59 PM

I was poked when I announced

smfc offered a $4 sum for CCM
smfc offered $3.5 million for Heart
smfc offered $7 million for Heart

seems FFA had the last laugh as it appears they used smfc as they are using Marconi simply to lure higher investment sums to the table for their licences - after all the FFA is the beneficiary

smfc's due diligence shows Heart value at no more than $4.5 million (inclusive of $3.5 million worth of debts by MH)

CCM not worth more than $3.7 Million - once again with the addition of their debts

FFA's slence on the NPL_V model needs to be treated as siding with the FFV - Actually they (the FFA)are the architects

Now its time for the clubs to lure the FFA to publicly state if they are for or against the NPL_V so that the clubs know where they stand - for the good of the game so that the football community can move forward

Afterall the Victorian version is an anomaly to what the other states have executed - therefore cannot be viewed as NCR compliant - unless ofcourse all the other states are non compliant

FFA please advise - which of the 2 versions is compliant to the NCR and the NPL?

Your statement reads the NPL is meant to be a consistent model across all the states











Edited by chris: 31/8/2013 11:36:37 PM

Chris, you are to Vic focused. The NPL-Vic model will not work in SA at the least. Never fear.

Stopped reading right here, that is the biggest load of shit I have ever read



Edited by GDeathe: 1/9/2013 12:53:31 PM

The NSW NPL is a far cry from the FFA NPL document that came out. In saying that it is moving towards their slowly. In NSW the Premier League clubs got together and went to NSW to say how they wanted the NPL to be run. That is why only metro teams made the NPL, no regional areas which is a contradicition on the FFA model. The QLD model is probably the one most similar to FFA's

Winter is coming

You lost me at VPL is the strongest state league

chris please take note.

10 years ago you were just as suicidal warning everyone how criminal it was what the FFA was doing to football in this country by introducing a new "plastic" competition (the A-League) that wouldn't last even a single season without the "traditional" mono-ethnic clubs like SMFC in it that had all the supporters, all the assets, all the money, all the juniors and all the fucking "know-how".

10 years on and you still sound just as suicidal, just as paranoid and just as full of shit.

The FFA gave us a National club competition that we are all proud of and only the FFA can give us a 2nd tier national club competion that is not the embarrassment of the football community and it actually attracts people to its games.

Just remember when you go to bed tonight the FFA can start a competition from scratch with new clubs that can create a big fan-base within weeks and far superior to what the mono-ethnic clubs are averaging at the moment, so that collective club power you are talking about shows how little idea you have of what is going on at the moment.

Take a valium son and relax. It's all good for the future of the game, as long as it is in the hands of the FFA. We're in very good hands.

Your comments are legitimately the most boring on this forum.

Chris - be thankful Heart turned down the bid.

Stick to your real club, you're much better off.

I knew that smfc MH would not work out - however it was a statement by smfc that given the opportunity an organic club can generate the money and resonate with the public in a more meaningful way that what the MH have managed to achieve

Irony is with smfc openly stating they will be the 3rd team in this state one must question the value of the Hearts licence

The fact that on 1 projector we are offering them $7 Million and on the other projector we were ridiculing them as an enterprise and not something we want to be associated with was more strategic and beyond the Hearts talent profile

from a football perspective and at every layer the Heart time and time again have demonstrated how naive they are

Edited by chris: 7/9/2013 07:35:56 PM

This.