Sport in Sydney's Grammar Schools


Sport in Sydney's Grammar Schools

Author
Message
Roar #1
Roar #1
World Class
World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 6.4K, Visits: 0
The popularity of rugby in private schools is incredible, they take great pride in the Wallabies they produce over any other sport, I've watched many first rugby games with 4500 people watching. This was after I had just played across the road for the first football infront of 50 people :lol:
Roar #1
Roar #1
World Class
World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)World Class (6.4K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 6.4K, Visits: 0
Private school rugby is pretty fierce here in Brisbane, although by the looks of it, not quite to the level that's being written about. Football definitely runs at a far second, even third at some schools. A lot of the bigger private school first 15 teams are made up of Islanders brought over here in grade 9-10 on sporting scholarships. Because islander boys typically mature physically earlier then Australian boys, I've seen 110kg 15 years olds playing for some of the schools and there have been score lines of 100-0 :lol:

I finished in 09 and the private school I went to is one of the better sporting schools in the second division in Brisbane. They don't offer sporting scholarships but still produce a high amount of pro athletes, currently there are 2 Australian volleyballers, 3 NRL, 4 with junior NRL scholarships,1 Rugby in France, 3 AFL, 1 Major League Baseball. 1 world champion Paralympic swimmer, 1 Roar youth team player. All who are still at school or have graduated in the last 5 years.
thupercoach
thupercoach
World Class
World Class (8.4K reputation)World Class (8.4K reputation)World Class (8.4K reputation)World Class (8.4K reputation)World Class (8.4K reputation)World Class (8.4K reputation)World Class (8.4K reputation)World Class (8.4K reputation)World Class (8.4K reputation)World Class (8.4K reputation)World Class (8.4K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 8.3K, Visits: 0
All true, GPS really is a pissing contest between cashed up private schools.

I've had a little bit to do with Scots (not as a parent) and yes, those first team boys want for nothing. It's effectively the life of a US college athlete.
Arthur
Arthur
World Class
World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 5.1K, Visits: 0
Quote:
Elite school in turmoil: the team no one wants to play
Adrian Proszenko, Peter Munro
Published: September 24, 2013 - 10:15AM

Advertisement •Full SMH Education coverage
•Related coverage: College accused of 'buying' team with scholarships
Sydney's most prestigious schools association, the GPS, is in turmoil with Scots College boycotted from sporting contests amid claims from rival schools that it offered prohibited inducements to recruit young athletes.

Concerns have also been raised about the exclusive Bellevue Hill school's sports science program, which Fairfax Media can reveal is being run by a protege of controversial sports scientist Stephen Dank. Five of Sydney's top private schools - believed to be The King's School, Sydney Church of England Grammar School, St Joseph's College, Sydney Grammar School and St Ignatius' College, Riverview - have refused to play Scots' first- and second-grade basketball teams in the season which starts next month.

The schools accuse Scots of offering sports scholarships to its players in breach of the Great Public Schools code of practice, which prohibits such inducements ''whether direct, disguised, or at arm's length''. Scots' premiership-winning rugby team is also thought to be under scrutiny.

The boycott has fractured the GPS athletics association. The King's School headmaster Tim Hawkes, who declined to comment on Scots, said the use of such inducements killed ''off meaningful competition … Do we play sport to develop character, resilience and teamwork, or do we play sport to build enrolments, prestige and provide the gift of bragging rights?''

Fairfax Media can reveal that Scots College's director of sports science, Tenzing Tsewang, worked with Mr Dank at the Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles NRL club. Mr Dank is a central figure in the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority investigations into the AFL and NRL.

''I rate [Mr Tsewang] streets ahead of anyone in the NRL from a sports science point of view,'' said Mr Dank, who denies providing athletes with performance-enhancing drugs and has begun legal action to clear his name.

Mr Tsewang said he did four months unpaid work with Manly in 2008 to gain experience and was not aware of any "unethical or illegal practices".

"I learnt valuable experience that has made me into the sports scientist I am today. I have held the esteemed roles of head sports scientist at the Wests Tigers since then and now the Director of Sports Science at Scots and strongly reject your links that have the capacity to defame my character and the good work that is happening at Scots."

Fairfax Media does not suggest Mr Tsewang has any involvement with performance-enhancing drugs.

Scots College principal Ian Lambert refused to say whether he was aware of Mr Tsewang's previous connection with Mr Dank.

Each of the five rival schools wrote to Dr Lambert notifying him of their boycott and raising alleged similar breaches by Scots teams in other sports.

He has denied awarding sports scholarships. ''I believe they [the other schools] have got it wrong. It is rumour. It is a misunderstanding of our program,’’ he said.

He refused to say whether any premiership-winning basketball players were on a bursary or scholarship, citing privacy reasons.

On Friday, the last day of term, Dr Lambert emailed parents to say the school had ‘‘complied with the spirit and letter of the GPS code of practice’’. He cited the school’s improved win-loss ratio and ‘‘wonderful year of success’’ in sport, winning GPS premierships in basketball, shooting, cross country and rugby.

Dr Lambert said Scots had engaged a consultant from Melbourne to investigate its sporting programs and practices, ‘‘to ensure that there are no areas of concern’’.

The results of the three-day inquiry would be sent to the standing committee of GPS heads, before an extraordinary meeting of the association on October 15.

Its first basketball games are on October 12. Dr Lambert said he hoped the rest would go ahead as scheduled.

The executive director of the Association of Independent Schools of NSW, Geoff Newcombe, said: ‘‘If there is a protocol in place where schools have agreed not to offer scholarships to students talented in a sporting area, then obviously the schools should honour that protocol.’’

Former Riverview principal Shane Hogan said the use of sports inducements could fracture the GPS sports association.

‘‘If it continues like this you are going to have a break-up of schools in Sydney ... Everyone is always concerned if there is not a level playing field ...

‘‘The only concern I have is for kids who enter the field at first-grade level without any hope whatsoever of being competitive. It becomes a safety issue.’’
http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/elite-school-in-turmoil-the-team-no-one-wants-to-play-20130923-2uadp.html



Arthur
Arthur
World Class
World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 5.1K, Visits: 0
Quote:
GPS competition an aggressive arms race, says World Cup hero
Peter Munro
Published: September 25, 2013 - 8:06AM

Advertisement Former Rugby World Cup-winning captain David Kirk has slammed Sydney's prestigious GPS competition as an aggressive ''arms race'' in which private schools recruit young athletes with sports scholarships at the expense of talented students.

The former All Blacks captain and chairman of trustees at Sydney Grammar School said recruiting year 10 and 11 students from other schools to win rugby games threatened the future of the GPS, which began in 1892. ''This recruitment has got to a point where it has nothing to do with developing rugby-playing talent,'' he said. ''This has severely and probably irrevocably undermined the integrity of the GPS First XV rugby competition.''

Mr Kirk, writing in the Sydney Grammar magazine in June, said US-style sports recruiting programs at Scots College and Newington College had turned GPS rugby into a ''futile arms race we cannot win''. ''We will not parachute in rugby players in the final years of school to displace boys who have worked their way up through the grades,'' he said. ''Scholarships for sportsmen are not the solution.''

Fairfax Media revealed on Tuesday that five of Sydney's top private schools - believed to be The King's School, Sydney Church of England Grammar School, St Joseph's College, Sydney Grammar and St Ignatius' College, Riverview - had refused to play Scots' first- and second-grade basketball teams in the coming season over allegations it used prohibited inducements to recruit players.

A Sydney teacher who has worked in both private and public sectors accused several GPS schools of offering inducements. ''Basketball coaches at Scots, Newington and Sydney Boys High School will call 15 or 20 families a week of promising young players as part of a recruitment drive,'' he said. ''I know the NSW state squad is chosen and within 48 hours most of those kids receive a phone call … It clearly says they will do anything to win.''

President of the NSW Secondary Principals' Council Lila Mularczyk called on GPS schools to stop targeting state students with scholarships. ''It is unnecessary and unfair,'' she said. ''It is not to the benefit of any school community when particular students are targeted away from that system.''

The five schools wrote separately to Scots to accuse it of offering sports scholarships to players in breach of the Great Public Schools code of practice, which prohibits such inducements ''whether direct, disguised, or at arm's length''. Scots' premiership-winning rugby team is also thought to be under scrutiny.

Principal Ian Lambert has denied the allegations. On Tuesday, Scots took down the sports section of its website, which had revealed details of its new high-performance centre, including a ''hypoxic simulated altitude training environment'' for students.

One Scots student told Fairfax Media that almost a dozen players in some of the school's rugby teams had been imported from other schools. ''I think it is too far what is happening and other schools need to know that we are cheating,'' he said.

The exclusive Bellevue Hills school received more than $5 million in government funding in 2011.

Mr Kirk said Scots and Newington, which were joint winners of the GPS rugby premiership, had developed sports programs similar to those in US colleges. ''They aggressively recruit and provide scholarships to the best rugby players they can find,'' he said.

In a growing sign of fractures within the GPS, Sydney Grammar headmaster John Vallance is believed to have told parents at an open day in August that his school did not buy rugby players, ''unlike some other schools''.

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/gps-competition-an-aggressive-arms-race-says-world-cup-hero-20130924-2uca7.html

Arthur
Arthur
World Class
World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)World Class (5.5K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 5.1K, Visits: 0
Stakes high as schools dabble in elite approach to success
James Robertson
Published: September 25, 2013 - 3:00AM

Fast bowling lessons from Brett Lee. Premier League sports scientists. A hypoxic chamber that can simulate training at up to 3000 metres above sea level.

These are just some of the privileges promised young ''Scotsmen'' who play in The Scots College elite teams. They reflect an increasing professionalisation of schoolboy sport that is concerning Australia's top sports scientists.

''They have the finances to pay well,'' said Craig Duncan, a lecturer at the Australian Catholic University and former head of performance at A-League side Sydney FC, who has fielded offers from top schools. ''I think this is parent driven. Every parent thinks their kids are going to make a living from sport.''

Late last month, Scots boasted about the future involvement of Lee in the school's ''Fast Bowling Unit''. Earlier this year, Scots' high-performance football coach, Chris Petrie, took a sports science role at English Premier League club Crystal Palace.

But Dr Duncan believes the tendency to focus on specialisation and high performance techniques is counter-productive in schools. ''They want them to specialise early, at 12, 10 years of age; long term we're going to produce less good athletes because kids need to be able to solve movement puzzles,'' he said. ''The more sports they are exposed to the better.''

Coaches are not only delivering high-performance training but also increasingly using sports science to boost the performance of schoolboy players. Scots boasts a gym with a ''hypoxic simulated altitude-training environment'' that Fairfax Media understands was bought for between $50,000 and $100,000.

Some professional clubs began using the chambers after they became sanctioned by the World Anti-Doping Agency. But that was only after former WADA chief Dick Pound criticised them as ''artificial'' and wondered about their impact on the spirit of sport.

Even today, the chambers are a rarity at the elite level and, when used improperly, have been linked to increased blood viscosity.

''There's probably three or four AFL clubs that [have chambers], and the AFL's the richest sport in Australia,'' said Darren Burgess, head of high-performance coaching at Port Adelaide, which does not have a chamber. ''If we're talking about kids or teenagers, there are so many things kids should be working on above a 2 or 3 per cent gain in their fitness. It's just a misguided use of resources.''

Dr Burgess made an observational study of elite sports programs at Sydney schools for his doctoral research. He found generally the programs were conducted safely and well, but there was a downside.

''There were issues with talented players doing six or seven days a week of training,'' he said. ''There was no management of their [workload]. That's pretty dangerous for a 13-, 14-, 15-year-old kid.''


Sports science: A "hypoxic simulated altitude-training environment", located in the Scots gym. Photo: Michel O'Sullivan



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/stakes-high-as-schools-dabble-in-elite-approach-to-success-20130924-2ucad.html#ixzz2fs0bm8Ub
GO


Select a Forum....























Inside Sport


Search