Jedinak to Arsenal?


Jedinak to Arsenal?

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liverpoolfan2010 wrote:
Neanderthal wrote:
liverpoolfan2010 wrote:
jlm8695 wrote:
liverpoolfan2010 wrote:
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paladisious wrote:
It's certain that Premier League clubs will go for him, doubly so if/when Palace go down.


I somehow doubt Arsenal though... :lol:



Why ?

Arsenal play with a DM Jedinak has been one of the best in the prem so far this season.


We already have two better players than him that both provide different options. Our players also need to know how to pass. This rumour is SST levels of BS.



who arteta :lol: :lol: :lol: got his ass kicked in DM against nearly every player in a red shirt on the weekend


Seriously? Was close to best on ground. Think it was 6 tackles, 3 interception's and 13-14 ball recoveries. Not to mention he probably completed more passes in a game then Jedinak has all season. If you seriously think Jedinak> Arteta then idek anymore.


What game were you watching he was beaten in almost all of his one on ones. Is to slow and his body on body is not good enough. I cant even count how many times the commentator said and arteta again with the mistake.

Do i think defensively jedinak is better ? yes
do i think jedinak is better at passing and attacking then arteta ? no

jedinaks role for palace as a DM is make the tackle pass it off to the attackers to attack. If that is what wenger wants just a wall at DM jedinak would be a great cheap buy.

Several people have already come out against you to say that you couldn't be more wrong. All knowledgeable pundits and journo's have been raving about Arteta's fantastic performance against Liverpool.

Where in gods name do you get the idea that he was beaten in almost all of his 1v1's?
Go look at the stats. It couldn't be further from the truth. He dominated them.
He was only dispossessed once the whole match. While I've already stated how many times he won the ball.
You're just making stuff up. And yes Stewart Robson, a known Arteta hater who has very little tactical knowledge was commentating and calls out his every mistake. Ofcourse you're going to have a couple of mistakes when you are by far the most involved player in the entire game.


You just asked where i heard it then answered about where i heard it :lol:
You say im a liar but then you go on about where i heard it from this post was very confusing Neanderthal

Point being, Robsons deluded commentary is the last place I'd rely on to form an opinion. Particularly on Arteta, Giroud and Wenger.

And no one, not even Robson said he was beaten in almost all of his 1v1's.

Edited by neanderthal: 8/11/2013 11:23:34 AM
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Leave Liverpool2010 alone , he did say brad Jones is the best keeper we have under schwarz Because he is at Liverpool
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grazorblade wrote:
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I watched him play this morning against WBA, seriously the guy is phenomenal, he's like a one man band in that team, everyone else is lost, he seems to be both the defense and attack, fuck me no wonder the Gunners are after him


everyone should remember holman's story and how it sometimes takes a while for club form to translate to international form


You may be right Grazor Blade, but same time (I was never Holman Hater FTR), Jedinak has already played with the Socceroos for a number of years now, 40 odd caps since his debut 2008. Two full World Cup campaigns. But just, even that and 'the suggestion we've seen the extent of his talents with the NT already' aside - There is ALSO the thing where the demands, tactical approach, style of opponents etc... which ALSO factored in to Holman's mixed form (Again, was never a hater).

Yeah, Jedinak's in the supposedly best domestic league in the world, albeit playing with one of it's poorest teams - WHICH, in itself, is a major factor in the equation, the circumstances of the team's tactical set up and approach to their opponents.

Going by Stifler'sMom and the comments of others, he seems to perform well in a 'free-er' role with Palace, in a different contextual environment and even style league.

But with the Socceroos, we have our 'Dutch-style' system, and Jedinak, like the rest of our players, have to perform to the requirements of their respective roles 'within' that system. And 'often' we're the 'favoured' team who are having to 'seize the initiative' and break down 10-man defences via AFC qualifying in temperatures, match and pitch conditions far foreign from Europe and even the A-League. THEN, jump from that, to friendlies and even WC matches against the best teams in the world, and the challenge there is even greater than any Jedinak and his Socceroos team mates face at club level. Brazil and even France are genuinely top International sides, featuring players, individuals regarded amongst the best players in the world, right now and two of those individuals literally tore our sides apart - Neymar and Ribery. Heck, EPL-based Jedinak - not even he faces the likes of they - He faces some top players, no doubt, but NOT they (Nor Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo)!

Jedinak may be good in context, in the context of his Palace role, but the Socceroos and the DM-role he's long played, has different demands in a different, very intense, much more varied environment with some team mates of quite varying circumstances and even playing levels (Some who even lacked regular football/fitness - Holman, Neill, Carney etc).

Don't forget how poorly we played against Oman, with he and Holland in CM/DM. That was in fair part a tactical fault, pointing to Holger, but Holland and Jedi shared blame too, unable or lacking the game to contribute to our build up going forward, with Jedinak resorting to long and at times even aimless, balls.

Edited by gloryperth: 9/11/2013 02:52:53 AM
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Leave Liverpool2010 alone , he did say brad Jones is the best keeper we have under schwarz Because he is at Liverpool

:lol: To be fair on him, a lot of people said that after the Liverpool transfer.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Leave Liverpool2010 alone , he did say brad Jones is the best keeper we have under schwarz Because he is at Liverpool



:lol: no i haven't smoking the stuff again ?


Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 9/11/2013 11:24:55 PM
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Neanderthal wrote:
liverpoolfan2010 wrote:
Neanderthal wrote:
liverpoolfan2010 wrote:
jlm8695 wrote:
liverpoolfan2010 wrote:
jlm8695 wrote:
liverpoolfan2010 wrote:
Proud2BeCanberran wrote:
paladisious wrote:
It's certain that Premier League clubs will go for him, doubly so if/when Palace go down.


I somehow doubt Arsenal though... :lol:



Why ?

Arsenal play with a DM Jedinak has been one of the best in the prem so far this season.


We already have two better players than him that both provide different options. Our players also need to know how to pass. This rumour is SST levels of BS.



who arteta :lol: :lol: :lol: got his ass kicked in DM against nearly every player in a red shirt on the weekend


Seriously? Was close to best on ground. Think it was 6 tackles, 3 interception's and 13-14 ball recoveries. Not to mention he probably completed more passes in a game then Jedinak has all season. If you seriously think Jedinak> Arteta then idek anymore.


What game were you watching he was beaten in almost all of his one on ones. Is to slow and his body on body is not good enough. I cant even count how many times the commentator said and arteta again with the mistake.

Do i think defensively jedinak is better ? yes
do i think jedinak is better at passing and attacking then arteta ? no

jedinaks role for palace as a DM is make the tackle pass it off to the attackers to attack. If that is what wenger wants just a wall at DM jedinak would be a great cheap buy.

Several people have already come out against you to say that you couldn't be more wrong. All knowledgeable pundits and journo's have been raving about Arteta's fantastic performance against Liverpool.

Where in gods name do you get the idea that he was beaten in almost all of his 1v1's?
Go look at the stats. It couldn't be further from the truth. He dominated them.
He was only dispossessed once the whole match. While I've already stated how many times he won the ball.
You're just making stuff up. And yes Stewart Robson, a known Arteta hater who has very little tactical knowledge was commentating and calls out his every mistake. Ofcourse you're going to have a couple of mistakes when you are by far the most involved player in the entire game.


You just asked where i heard it then answered about where i heard it :lol:
You say im a liar but then you go on about where i heard it from this post was very confusing Neanderthal

Point being, Robsons deluded commentary is the last place I'd rely on to form an opinion. Particularly on Arteta, Giroud and Wenger.

And no one, not even Robson said he was beaten in almost all of his 1v1's.

Edited by neanderthal: 8/11/2013 11:23:34 AM


Ive always said Arteta is a better attacker and passer of the ball better dribbler but my point is Jedinak is a better DM his defending tackling positioning is alot better then Arteta.

in the highlights a few things when Henderson attacks when he steals the ball Arteta as a DM should come across block him off make a tackle but instead jogs and ball watches.

So many Arsenal fans undies are too tight ive never said Arteta is crap and shit ? ive said Jedinak is a better defensive person and if that is what Arsenal want he would do a better DEFENSIVE job then Arteta does.

If they rather a deeper player to play the ball out and create attacks down the park but not as good on the defensive keep Arteta.







Edited by liverpoolfan2010: 9/11/2013 11:38:47 PM
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Which is why Arsenal got flamini. I love Jedi, but there is no way that we would get him at arsenal, his passing completion rate is nowhere near good enough to play in a team where passing is so important.
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What's the price they are gonna offer..?
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RooseveltHernandez wrote:
What's the price they are gonna offer..?


Palace to block the move as Arsenal want to pay in instalments, only for fans of the other 19 clubs to slam palace for their actions.
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did someone just try to say Jedinak is better then Arteta? can I have some of your drugs please?
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jas88 wrote:
did someone just try to say Jedinak is better then Arteta? can I have some of your drugs please?


As a CDM i think Jedinak plays it better

As an attacking deep player Arteta plays it better.

Both play different styles for the same position it depends what arsenal want.

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