Angola Bans Islam, Destroys Mosque
Sunday, 24 November 2013 00:00


Last October, Muslims from the urban municipality of Viana, Luanda, attended the destruction of the minaret of their mosque Zengo.


LUANDA – According to several Angolan newspapers, Angola has become the first country in the world to ban Islam and Muslims, taking first measures by destroying mosques in the country.
“The process of legalization of Islam has not been approved by the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights, their mosques would be closed until further notice,” Rosa Cruz e Silva, the Angolan Minister of Culture, was quoted by Agence Ecofin on Friday, November 22.
Silva comments were given during her visit last Tuesday to the 6th Commission of the National Assembly.

She asserted that the decision was the latest is a series of efforts to ban ‘illegal’ religious sects.
According to the minister, the action was necessary to fight relentlessly against the emergence of congregations whose worshipping is contradicting with the customs of the Angolan culture.
Same as Islam, other faiths which were not legalized will face closure of their houses of worship.
“All sects on the list published by the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights in the Angolan newspaper ‘Jornal de Angola’ are prohibited to conduct worship, so they should keep their doors closed," she was quoted by Cameroon Voice‏.
"In addition, we also have a long list of more than a thousand legalization applications,” she added.

The anti-Islam comments were not the first by Angolan officials.
“This is the final end of Islamic influence in our country,” President José Eduardo dos Santos was quoted by Osun Defender newspaper on Sunday, November 24.
Last October, Muslims from the urban municipality of Viana, Luanda, attended the destruction of the minaret of their mosque Zengo.
The provincial governor of Luanda, Bento Bento, has also said on the airwaves of a local radio that "radical Muslims are not welcome in Angola and the Angolan government is not ready for the legalization of mosques."
He added that Muslims were not welcome in Angola and that the government would not legalize the presence of mosques in the country.
According to CIA Factbook, 47% of Angolans practice indigenous beliefs, 38% Roman Catholic and 15% Protestant.
Islam’s opinion about freedom of religion is evident from the Qur’an, which says what means:
*{Say, ‘The truth is from your Lord’: Let him who will, believe, and let him who will, reject [it]}* (An-Nisaa' 4:29)
Again, God says: *{Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error…}* (Al-Baqarah 2:256)

I'm sure a well measured and reasonable response from the Muslim community is incoming.

And I bet it won't take into account the views/laws of the governing country rofl.

-PB

I'm sure a well measured and reasonable response from the Muslim community is incoming.

Well shit...

This is a sad day for humanity.

1) Each and every person on this planet should be afforded their own religious freedoms, free from persecution.
2) This will no doubt result in an angry and violent response from the extremes of the belief.

1) Its done by the ministry for Justice and Human Rights.Clearly they have thoughts this through.

2) This is seriously my biggest fear. There is a real chance that shit could get crazy once the extremes hear of this. Angolan ambassadors probably best to flee the extreme countries.

Do they even exist? :lol:

Edited by 433: 25/11/2013 09:24:41 PM

Do they even exist? :lol:

Good question. If they ban the religion they probably wouldn't even have ambassadors in Muslim countries.

So Zimbabwe orders foreign shop owners to shut its doors for locals, Angola bans Islam, all in a week.

How many nations in the world have banned a religion?

How many nations in the world have banned a religion?

I'll give it about a week until either Al-Qaeda, Al-Shaabab or Boko Haram does something.

Only two percent of Angolans follow Haram anyway.

Only two percent of Angolans follow Haram anyway.

Only two percent of Angolans follow Haram anyway.

Judaism in islamic places? May not be completely banned but not exactly welcoming.

This is fantastic news.

For those that think terrorists will target Angola now are kidding themselves. Angola is too unknown worldwide for terrorists to target them. That's my guess anyway. Attacking high-profile targets like the USA and Britain makes for better advertizing.

Edited by socceroossupporter: 26/11/2013 02:18:42 午前

This is fantastic news.

For those that think terrorists will target Angola now are kidding themselves. Angola is too unknown worldwide for terrorists to target them. That's my guess anyway. Attacking high-profile targets like the USA and Britain makes for better advertizing.

Edited by socceroossupporter: 26/11/2013 02:18:42 午前

Next, eliminate christians, jews and whatever dumb shit humans have used to justify their bullshit.

Governments too.

For those that think terrorists will target Angola now are kidding themselves. Angola is too unknown worldwide for terrorists to target them. That's my guess anyway. Attacking high-profile targets like the USA and Britain makes for better advertizing.

Probably lots, but in modern times I'd think you'd find the entire list of current countries being East of Turkey and West of India.

China has banned a number of religions and heavily regulates others. France banned Scientology.

North Korea?

Exodus ??? Lol

Well, its proven to a false article. As I was suspecting. No big media outlet reporting such a big issue and surely a UN member nation would not be allowed to get away with something like this.

Get away with something like this?

They can do whatever they want as far as I was aware, it's their country and they govern it how they see fit.

-PB

This. For two reasons:
1) Each and every person on this planet should be afforded their own religious freedoms, free from persecution.
2) This will no doubt result in an angry and violent response from the extremes of the belief.

1. like Islam does
2. Like Islam does

Islam actually does afford each and every person their own religious freedoms. Don't judge a 'supposed' Islamic country as the base for Islamic teaching.

Like me judging the Catholic church as some sort of sex cult in which initiation is done through molestation of a young boy.

I'm still not sure which Islam is supposed to be the correct Islam.

Elaborate.

It seems like every time something bad happens in the Islamic world, you defend the faith by saying "that's not true Islam".

So we have a broad view of what Islam is not, but haven't seen much of what it is.

Islam actually does afford each and every person their own religious freedoms. Don't judge a 'supposed' Islamic country as the base for Islamic teaching.

Like me judging the Catholic church as some sort of sex cult in which initiation is done through molestation of a young boy.

And lets not forget the infidels

Its a basic injustice and takes away from the whole freedom of rights, religions, etc etc.

Anyway, the mosque being destroyed in the picture is in Angola. However, its a mosque that had incorrect permits and was not authorised to be constructed thus violating Angolan and, if you will, Islamic law.

I'm sure there are passages in the Quran that explicitly tell followers to kill non-believers and people who insult the prophet.

So not contradicting the book is considered to be true Islam?

So what about the freedom of rights that Islamic countries take away from their citizens?

Or are we only talking about UN council countries?

-PB

This is fantastic news.

For those that think terrorists will target Angola now are kidding themselves. Angola is too unknown worldwide for terrorists to target them. That's my guess anyway. Attacking high-profile targets like the USA and Britain makes for better advertizing.

I cant say I am a scholar on the Quran, so perhaps you can enlighten me as to these passages.

Its extremely sad to be honest with you. Islam used to be such that you could look at a Muslims actions and people would know Islam, now we have to defend so many things and say that that is not Islam.

This. For two reasons:
1) Each and every person on this planet should be afforded their own religious freedoms, free from persecution.
2) This will no doubt result in an angry and violent response from the extremes of the belief.

Yeah exactly! Just like Muslims practice (freedom of religion) in extreme Islamic countries! They had no problems with the US impeding on their national (Afg/Irq) sovereignty so I don't see why Angola would have a problem with Muslim extremists strapping bombs to themselves and dishing our some reprisals...

One law for them, another for the rest...](*,) ](*,)

I will look in to those and get back to you

I will look in to those and get back to you

My view is that the Muslims are the cause of their own downfall. If Muslims acted the way we should, we would not be subject to what we have today. Is Islamic countries were proper Islamic countries, then the religion would not be tarnished the way it has. We always blame the west, but we dont want to take responsibility for our actions. We complain about the this person and that person, but then we dont want to get involved in politics and become active contributors to society. Muslims want to live this closed off life and expect everything to fall for them. We have too many people who want to lead and have difference of opinion and insist that theirs is right rather than what hadith and the quran says. We cant even have a unified Ramadan how can we expect to be rid of Islamophobia.

Edited by zimbos_05: 27/11/2013 02:56:55 PM

What annoys me though, is when Muslims blame the West for their issues. The West is slightly responsible, but on the whole it is the followers of Islam that make trouble for themselves.

I think you said something similar to me a couple years ago about some other verses. Still waiting. :-"

This Sharia Law movement in England bothers me a great deal. Labelling their local communities rife with "western decadence" and enforcing Sharia above the law...if they don't like western society, why don't they just fuck off back to their bomb-crater riddled homelands?

Did i? I am a very forgetful person. Excuse me. You might have to re-jog my memory on which ones?

I will look in to those and get back to you

This Sharia Law movement in England bothers me a great deal. Labelling their local communities rife with "western decadence" and enforcing Sharia above the law...if they don't like western society, why don't they just fuck off back to their bomb-crater riddled homelands?

I know what you mean have you seen this?

Sharia Zones in England

I can tell you right now ginger beard was born in the UK.

This should be taken seriously. These Shariah zones are a slap in the face to the law of the land. I wish offenders could be charged with the likes of treason as to spend a hell of a long time in prison for having such disrespect for British laws.

Shariah Zones not only break british law, but they break Shariah Law. The people who impose these zones and claim them as theres should be thrown out the country.

Edited by zimbos_05: 28/11/2013 03:10:18 PM

Those movements are a real threat to western society, ironically the U.S. are in bed with the Saudis.

It's reassuring to know that of all of the different "flavours" of Islam, with all of the different interpretations of what is encouraged/acceptable/tolerated, by a happy stroke of luck you follow the real version, and can say with such absolute certainty that others have got it wrong. ;)


(Of course, this applies to any follower of any branch within any religion. Reminds me of this old joke...)

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!"
"Why shouldn't I?" he said.
I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"
He said, "Like what?"
I said, "Well, are you religious or atheist?"
He said, "Religious."
I said, "Me too! Are your Christian or Buddhist?"
He said, "Christian."
I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?"
He said, "Protestant."
I said, "Me too! Are your Episcopalian or Baptist?"
He said, "Baptist!"
I said, "Wow! Me too! Are your Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?"
He said, Baptist Church of God!"
I said, "Me too! Are your Original Baptist Church of God or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?"
He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God!"
I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?"
He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915!"

I said, "Die, heretic scum!" and pushed him off.






NB: I agree with you to a degree about the political/legal side of this. I am of the opinion that anyone attempting to establish a new set laws in a country in opposition to the existing laws should, by definition, be charged with treason.

How do you define a non muslim country? If England is 51% muslim it is a muslim country?

I find it amusing (and quiet sad) how valid and honest criticism can be interpreted as "trolling" (and by extension racist). Says alot about the world we live in.

1) Fair enough.

2) Playing the old context card again. :lol:

Your paraphrasing of the verse makes it seem alot more peaceful than it actually is. He is directly threatening non-believers to join or be killed. Hardly a peaceful and tolerant faith then?

3) More context :lol:

I didn't pick and chose my words, it is a direct quote. Besides, it is not about a war against an enemy, it is about a war against unbelievers.

But what do I know, I'm just a stupid bigoted racist troll :roll:

No. As stated before, you cant impose your cultures, beliefs, and religious laws on a country. So if hypothetically a muslim was to become PM, he wouldnt be able to institute Shariah Law all of a sudden.

There are plenty of people who are trying to though. That's the worrying thing.

I understand Angola have come out and said they've never banned Islam.

Yeah I was going to post more articles of the denials from their Ambassadors but there's also new articles coming out from Angola saying it's going ahead, so believe who you want I guess.