Fans' effect on sports teams overblown


Fans' effect on sports teams overblown

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Football is about me and my right to do whatever I want with no regard for the name of the sport or those enjoying the sport around me!


But whatever I do, I do in the name of my club... Which I love...
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afromanGT wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
Clearly doesn't take into account teams in countries like Serbia where supporters very much influence the game :lol:

-PB

WE CAN'T LOSE IF THE GAME DOESN'T GO 90 MINTUES!


Or if we're holding the referee's family for ransom :lol:

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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paulbagzFC wrote:
Clearly doesn't take into account teams in countries like Serbia where supporters very much influence the game :lol:

-PB

WE CAN'T LOSE IF THE GAME DOESN'T GO 90 MINTUES!
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Clearly doesn't take into account teams in countries like Serbia where supporters very much influence the game :lol:

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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sobkowski wrote:
This reporter has obviously never been to Wanderland jajaja

But seriously. has this reporter heard of The Den. I'm sure the millwall roar would've kept vinnie jones in his shell.

A study a couple of years ago in the Bundesliga suggested that players were less influenced by the crowd than the referees were and that was where the home ground advantage came from. They also found that stadiums which were seated closer to the pitch had a stronger home ground advantage.
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That isn't to say one team just played shit on the day.


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TheSelectFew wrote:
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I always said home ground advantage is nothing but a myth in society


And you're wrong. No two ways about it. You're wrong.

Although referring to NFL, an article here suggests that home field advantage becomes more pronounced as the season wears on.

The article to which I referred earlier was a serialised piece from a book called 'Scorecasting' where they look at the suggestion in great depth - they went through the complete scoring records for Major League Sports in america. You can read a truncated piece here
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Condemned666 wrote:
I always said home ground advantage is nothing but a myth in society


And you're wrong. No two ways about it. You're wrong.


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chillbilly wrote:
Other studies have said home ground advantage is more about knowing which objects around the stadium to take cues from so that you can line up and time a pass or run with greater accuracy and consistency.

That combined with the comfort the players get from not having anything disrupted from their pre-game routine for home games makes a difference.

I'd be interested to know whether teams with more proficiency at set pieces showed a stronger affinity for home ground advantage.
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Other studies have said home ground advantage is more about knowing which objects around the stadium to take cues from so that you can line up and time a pass or run with greater accuracy and consistency.
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I always said home ground advantage is nothing but a myth in society
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Benjo wrote:
Obviously have never been to a Seattle Seahawks game. The amount of noise they produce makes it very hard for opposing teams to communicate properly.

I think it's more pronounced in NFL for that exact reason. They make a lot of noise when the D is on the field so that the opposition O struggles to make audible calls at the line of scrimmage.

I recall reading an article about 18 months ago from the american university that found home ground advantage in football and gridiron was strongly pronounced, moderate in baseball and less so in basketball.
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milan_7 wrote:
^^^Mainly because the Heart fans help fire up the team for the derby.

But he can't hear them! :lol:


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petszk wrote:
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When teams based within the same time zone play each other, there is little or no advantage gained by the home team. However, when two or more time zones are crossed, home teams score about twice as many goals as away teams.

We'll see after the derby today ;)


Actually...
http://www.aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_11_1.html

Heart v Victory all time record is 3 wins apiece & 4 draws.


Paladisious wrote:
We'll see after the derby today ;)

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^^^Mainly because the Heart fans help fire up the team for the derby.
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paladisious wrote:
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When teams based within the same time zone play each other, there is little or no advantage gained by the home team. However, when two or more time zones are crossed, home teams score about twice as many goals as away teams.

We'll see after the derby today ;)


Actually...
http://www.aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_11_1.html

Heart v Victory all time record is 3 wins apiece & 4 draws.

Edited by petszk: 21/12/2013 04:34:30 PM


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Obviously have never been to a Seattle Seahawks game. The amount of noise they produce makes it very hard for opposing teams to communicate properly.
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playmaker11 wrote:
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09.12.2013
Home Ground Advantage

Memo to A league soccer supporters, no matter how good your songs are, or how loud you cheer, you have little influence over the outcome of a game.

A new study appearing in the Journal of Science and Medicine in Sport, published by Sports Medicine Australia, has discovered that home ground advantage can have more to do with the distance the away team travels, than the noise the home team’s crowd makes.

The results of the study, Home Advantage in Australian Soccer, by Sydney University’s Chris Goumas, flies in the face of conventional wisdom.

“The general consensus amongst sports scientists is that home-team crowd support, which can affect both player performance and referee decision making, is the main cause of home advantage in soccer,” Goumas said.

“The results of the present study, however, suggest that when a soccer competition covers several time zones, travel effects such as jet-lag may play an even greater role than crowd support.

“The more time zones an A-League soccer team crosses when playing away from home, the worse they perform. When teams based within the same time zone play each other, there is little or no advantage gained by the home team. However, when two or more time zones are crossed, home teams score about twice as many goals as away teams.”

Goumas, who considers himself a soccer fan, was surprised by the results.

“Results of previous studies suggest that home-team crowd support is the major cause of home advantage in soccer, whereas away-team travel has little, if any, effect. The present study, however, found the opposite to be the case,” he said.

http://sma.org.au/2013/12/home-ground-advantage/




Just for laughs, here's the opening paragraph from the Townsville Bulletin, pg. 10, 10/12/13

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Chanting and cheering soccer fans may as well shut up and enjoy the show, new research on home ground advantage has shown.

I read this on the bbc.com website and I was like huh? But who cares ? Are we that insecure about people bagging the sport out ? Get over it
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When teams based within the same time zone play each other, there is little or no advantage gained by the home team. However, when two or more time zones are crossed, home teams score about twice as many goals as away teams.

We'll see after the derby today ;)
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09.12.2013
Home Ground Advantage

Memo to A league soccer supporters, no matter how good your songs are, or how loud you cheer, you have little influence over the outcome of a game.

A new study appearing in the Journal of Science and Medicine in Sport, published by Sports Medicine Australia, has discovered that home ground advantage can have more to do with the distance the away team travels, than the noise the home team’s crowd makes.

The results of the study, Home Advantage in Australian Soccer, by Sydney University’s Chris Goumas, flies in the face of conventional wisdom.

“The general consensus amongst sports scientists is that home-team crowd support, which can affect both player performance and referee decision making, is the main cause of home advantage in soccer,” Goumas said.

“The results of the present study, however, suggest that when a soccer competition covers several time zones, travel effects such as jet-lag may play an even greater role than crowd support.

“The more time zones an A-League soccer team crosses when playing away from home, the worse they perform. When teams based within the same time zone play each other, there is little or no advantage gained by the home team. However, when two or more time zones are crossed, home teams score about twice as many goals as away teams.”

Goumas, who considers himself a soccer fan, was surprised by the results.

“Results of previous studies suggest that home-team crowd support is the major cause of home advantage in soccer, whereas away-team travel has little, if any, effect. The present study, however, found the opposite to be the case,” he said.

http://sma.org.au/2013/12/home-ground-advantage/




Just for laughs, here's the opening paragraph from the Townsville Bulletin, pg. 10, 10/12/13

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Chanting and cheering soccer fans may as well shut up and enjoy the show, new research on home ground advantage has shown.


By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

GO


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