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TheSelectFew wrote:Tomorrow Heidelberg and gvs play. Winner goes through to the RO32. Palm Beach at home Saturday night
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:Draupnir wrote:Not sure what all the fuss about Hakoah is. Not a fan at all of that organisation, but there is not much difference between calling a club "Hakoah" than there is calling it "Olympic". The issue with Hakoah is that they were allowed to change their logo and include the star of david in it, even though the NCIP explicitly states they shouldn't be allowed to do that. It differs enough IMO  That's not a star of david
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scott21 wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Draupnir wrote:Not sure what all the fuss about Hakoah is. Not a fan at all of that organisation, but there is not much difference between calling a club "Hakoah" than there is calling it "Olympic". The issue with Hakoah is that they were allowed to change their logo and include the star of david in it, even though the NCIP explicitly states they shouldn't be allowed to do that. It differs enough IMO  That's not a star of david That's not their logo, this is their logo
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aussie scott21
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:scott21 wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Draupnir wrote:Not sure what all the fuss about Hakoah is. Not a fan at all of that organisation, but there is not much difference between calling a club "Hakoah" than there is calling it "Olympic". The issue with Hakoah is that they were allowed to change their logo and include the star of david in it, even though the NCIP explicitly states they shouldn't be allowed to do that. It differs enough IMO  That's not a star of david That's not their logo, this is their logo  :) I need more time for analysis
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The star of David is a religious symbol too. Unless you're going to tell clubs to remove "Saint" from their names or to remove cross shapes from logos, there's no way it's going away. Not saying I agree with either side, but it's essentially a loophole that allows them to keep using it I suppose.
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sydneycroatia58
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Draupnir wrote:The star of David is a religious symbol too. Unless you're going to tell clubs to remove "Saint" from their names or to remove cross shapes from logos, there's no way it's going away. Not saying I agree with either side, but it's essentially a loophole that allows them to keep using it I suppose. The NCIP explicitly states that new clubs may not have a logo that has any ethnic, national, political, racial or religious connotations either in isolation or combination and that any existing clubs logo upon a change may not have any ethnic, national, political, racial or religious connotations either in isolation or combination. By including the star of david, which as you rightly point out is a religious symbol, in their new logo which was changed after the NCIP came in they are in clear breach of the NCIP and I would love to know the FFA's reasoning for approving the change. What this needs is for someone like a South Melbourne, Sydney United or Melbourne Knights to change their logo and see whether the FFA approves it, I'd be very surprised if they did. Edited by sydneycroatia58: 22/6/2015 08:04:13 PM
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TheSelectFew
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Buggalugs - you should have listened... wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Tomorrow Heidelberg and gvs play. Winner goes through to the RO32. Palm Beach at home Saturday night And the hume city kingston clash on wednesday.
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aussie scott21
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:Draupnir wrote:The star of David is a religious symbol too. Unless you're going to tell clubs to remove "Saint" from their names or to remove cross shapes from logos, there's no way it's going away. Not saying I agree with either side, but it's essentially a loophole that allows them to keep using it I suppose. The NCIP explicitly states that new clubs may not have a logo that has any ethnic, national, political, racial or religious connotations either in isolation or combination and that any existing clubs logo upon a change may not have any ethnic, national, political, racial or religious connotations either in isolation or combination. By including the star of david, which as you rightly point out is a religious symbol, in their new logo which was changed after the NCIP came in they are in clear breach of the NCIP and I would love to know the FFA's reasoning for approving the change. What this needs is for someone like a South Melbourne, Sydney United or Melbourne Knights to change their logo and see whether the FFA approves it, I'd be very surprised if they did. Edited by sydneycroatia58: 22/6/2015 08:04:13 PM Hume City FC changed this year. The muslim symbol is just as close as the star of david symbol. Its not special treatment.
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Maccabi hakoah is literally no different to Sydney Croatia
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Forgot to mention the South Australia qualifier is on Sunday. So games tomorrow, Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Maccabi hakoah is literally no different to Sydney Croatia Not sure brother. Hakoah means something like strength. So Hakoah is the same as Dinamo/Dynamo.  Which is accepted.
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scott21 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Maccabi hakoah is literally no different to Sydney Croatia Not sure brother. Hakoah means something like strength. So Hakoah is the same as Dinamo/Dynamo.  Which is accepted. Is hakoah English? Thats another issue.
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aussie scott21
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TheSelectFew wrote:scott21 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Maccabi hakoah is literally no different to Sydney Croatia Not sure brother. Hakoah means something like strength. So Hakoah is the same as Dinamo/Dynamo.  Which is accepted. Is hakoah English? Thats another issue. Theyre called Hakoah Sydney City East Football Club But it is where the line is undefined. Olympic is the English version of a Greek word, so that is ok, but then you have Surfers Paradise Apollo SC.. Is Apollo English? Or just how we spell a Greek Word. There are several question marks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_FFA_Cup_preliminary_roundsUniversity Azzurri Old Scotch Bunbury Dynamos Hellenic AC Fremantle Croatia Im sure the list goes on. Edited by scott21: 22/6/2015 10:15:30 PM
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TheSelectFew
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I think thats the argument. Where is the line?
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Old Scotch is a drink, not a nationality.
At worst, it refers to the private school where-from the team arose.
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TheSelectFew wrote:I think thats the argument. Where is the line? I'm not sure. You can accept olympic and juve/Juventus because they are clubs not nationalities. Then you should accept celtic (who are an ethnic team) because it is homage to the club, not the Irish , same with shamrock. I would argue Sydney Celtic FC is fine but Sydney Irish FC is not. Hence Darwin Olmpic is fine but not Hellenic FC. Bunbury Dynamo is fine, but not Gwelup Croatia. Hokoah is fine.
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SWandP wrote:Old Scotch is a drink, not a nationality.
At worst, it refers to the private school where-from the team arose. Aye  Because nothing screams we're not scottish more than the cross of st Andrew
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TheSelectFew
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scott21 wrote:SWandP wrote:Old Scotch is a drink, not a nationality.
At worst, it refers to the private school where-from the team arose. Aye  Because nothing screams we're not scottish more than the cross of st Andrew Better inform the school then. Edited by TheSelectFew: 22/6/2015 11:14:36 PM
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scott21 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:I think thats the argument. Where is the line? I'm not sure. You can accept olympic and juve/Juventus because they are clubs not nationalities. Then you should accept celtic (who are an ethnic team) because it is homage to the club, not the Irish , same with shamrock. I would argue Sydney Celtic FC is fine but Sydney Irish FC is not. Hence Darwin Olmpic is fine but not Hellenic FC. Bunbury Dynamo is fine, but not Gwelup Croatia. Hokoah is fine. Well actually according to the NCIP the name Gwelup Croatia is fine, just so long as they never want to change it to anything else.
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Heidelberg united v GVS is on Futbol24. Live score updates and tipping available. No surprises as to who are the favourites.
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scott21 wrote:SWandP wrote:Old Scotch is a drink, not a nationality.
At worst, it refers to the private school where-from the team arose. Aye  Because nothing screams we're not scottish more than the cross of st Andrew Can the Masons themselves enter a team ?
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I had to laugh last year at the Sydney United game v Sydney FC how loud to Croatian chanting was coming through on the TV, and the Croatian flags and jerseys in the crowd. The FFA must have loved that. :lol:
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Heineken wrote:I had to laugh last year at the Sydney United game v Sydney FC how loud to Croatian chanting was coming through on the TV, and the Croatian flags and jerseys in the crowd.
The FFA must have loved that. :lol: The trollage was strong. Paulc booked a holiday after that night.
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Heineken wrote:I had to laugh last year at the Sydney United game v Sydney FC how loud to Croatian chanting was coming through on the TV, and the Croatian flags and jerseys in the crowd.
The FFA must have loved that. :lol: They should be thankful they are allowed to compete in the competition with their supporters constantly chanting stick the a-league up your ass. And yes i know the FFA Cup and the a-league are different competitions but they are still run by the same people Edited by vincenzogold: 23/6/2015 02:22:24 PM
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vincenzogold wrote:Heineken wrote:I had to laugh last year at the Sydney United game v Sydney FC how loud to Croatian chanting was coming through on the TV, and the Croatian flags and jerseys in the crowd.
The FFA must have loved that. :lol: They should be thankful they are allowed to compete in the competition with their supporters constantly chanting stick the a-league up your ass. And yes i know the FFA Cup and the a-league are different competitions but they are still run by the same people Edited by vincenzogold: 23/6/2015 02:22:24 PM Yeeeah nah.
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We have no ACL We can win FFA match this time
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westiemcwanderer1 wrote:We have no ACL We can win FFA match this time i hope we play the eastie scum! burn down that shit stadiem they got 4 gud! last time for tha derby i nearly got done by the pigz, but i woz to quick 4 them. next time ill be betta and get em proper gud. shame we cant play hakoah. those scum lot deserve as right kickin.
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vincenzogold wrote:Heineken wrote:I had to laugh last year at the Sydney United game v Sydney FC how loud to Croatian chanting was coming through on the TV, and the Croatian flags and jerseys in the crowd.
The FFA must have loved that. :lol: They should be thankful they are allowed to compete in the competition with their supporters constantly chanting stick the a-league up your ass. And yes i know the FFA Cup and the a-league are different competitions but they are still run by the same people Edited by vincenzogold: 23/6/2015 02:22:24 PM "They should be grateful to participate in a competition open for all Australian teams" yeah nah, xenophobic cunts like yourself can drink bleach
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Heidelberg United the next club in the RO32. Hellas.
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