★The Official 'FFA Cup' Thread |Matchday 1 results in OP!★


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Lakeside Stadium a possible alternative venue is off limits for the FFA Cup quarter final between Bentleigh Greens and Melbourne Victory as the pitch will be closed off between Monday September 12th & Sunday October 2nd apparently due to top dressing and scarification there will be no access to the soccer pitch and warm up area.

source - Lakeside Stadium website.
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Lakeside would be pants anyway. Prefer to go to Kingston Heath.
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melbourne_terrace - 31 Aug 2016 2:56 PM
Surely it's more trouble than it's worth to move Bentleigh vs Vuck to anywhere other than Kingston Heath. Moorabbin Oval (St Kilda AFL) is the only biggish ground anywhere close to and it's pretty much a dump.

South Melbourne might open up Lakeside for them in the name of the #hellanicbrotherhood but it is genuinely halfway across the city and then Hume will lose their shit for not being allowed to move their own game away from ABD Stadium.

Lot of history at that oval. Plugger etc. Don't hate, mate, appreciate.



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loki - 31 Aug 2016 3:04 PM
Lakeside would be pants anyway. Prefer to go to Kingston Heath.

Definitely. It's not like there was some huge rush for tickets for the game at Hume anyway with their limited capacity. 

Viennese Vuck

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melbourne_terrace - 31 Aug 2016 3:07 PM
loki - 31 Aug 2016 3:04 PM

Definitely. It's not like there was some huge rush for tickets for the game at Hume anyway with their limited capacity. 

These regional stadiums are what it's all about anyway


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TheSelectFew - 31 Aug 2016 3:17 PM
melbourne_terrace - 31 Aug 2016 3:07 PM

These regional stadiums are what it's all about anyway

lol till you use Magic Park or Dorrien Gardens a billion times.

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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paulbagzFC - 31 Aug 2016 3:22 PM
TheSelectFew - 31 Aug 2016 3:17 PM

lol till you use Magic Park or Dorrien Gardens a billion times.

-PB

This just exposes another issue in Aus football. The lack of stadiums and facilities available in this country. Said it once and I will say it a billion times temporary seating. I think Devonport used it at Valley Road funnily enough.


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TheSelectFew - 31 Aug 2016 3:26 PM
paulbagzFC - 31 Aug 2016 3:22 PM

This just exposes another issue in Aus football. The lack of stadiums and facilities available in this country. Said it once and I will say it a billion times temporary seating. I think Devonport used it at Valley Road funnily enough.

Or we could just move FFA Cup games to weekends. 

It would benefit clubs, fans and venues. But Foxtel decide. 
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scott21 - 31 Aug 2016 3:28 PM
TheSelectFew - 31 Aug 2016 3:26 PM

Or we could just move FFA Cup games to weekends. 

It would benefit clubs, fans and venues. But Foxtel decide. 

And then fans complain that they want midweek football. Can't please everyone.
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Wait, am I missing something? Is Kingston Heath not suitable/not available for the game?

Was really looking forward to the best souva of the FFA Cup again...
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scott21 - 31 Aug 2016 3:28 PM
TheSelectFew - 31 Aug 2016 3:26 PM

Or we could just move FFA Cup games to weekends. 

It would benefit clubs, fans and venues. But Foxtel decide. 

That doesnt solve the venue problem. That masks it by pushing it to a stadium that is to big.

No.


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scott21 - 31 Aug 2016 3:28 PM
TheSelectFew - 31 Aug 2016 3:26 PM

Or we could just move FFA Cup games to weekends. 

It would benefit clubs, fans and venues. But Foxtel decide. 

Except:

Early stages conflict with the end of the State League regular season and finals also on weekends.
Later stages conflict with the kick-off to the A-League season.
Premium venues will charge a premium as the weekend is their most in demand time.
Fans may be more likely to go out to games but now must choose between AFL, NRL, and later in the cup alternative A-League matches.
TV ratings are lower on weekends.
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A16Man - 31 Aug 2016 3:35 PM
scott21 - 31 Aug 2016 3:28 PM

And then fans complain that they want midweek football. Can't please everyone.

If we use the current model, this cup you could have played

WP v WSW
WW v SFC 
NJ v MV
BR v PG 
GG v CCM
RU v AU
HC v MS
MK v CC

etc on a weeknight as their stadiums can handle the games. As Redlands drew AU you could make a rule if it vs an A-League team you have to play midweek. There are ways around things. Technically you only need to play one match for a tv time, the other 12 games in r32 could have been played on the weekend and shown online. 
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SoccerLogic - 31 Aug 2016 3:37 PM
scott21 - 31 Aug 2016 3:28 PM

Except:

Early stages conflict with the end of the State League regular season and finals also on weekends.
Later stages conflict with the kick-off to the A-League season.
Premium venues will charge a premium as the weekend is their most in demand time.
Fans may be more likely to go out to games but now must choose between AFL, NRL, and later in the cup alternative A-League matches.
TV ratings are lower on weekends.

Please see below comment. Also , NPL games can be played midweek. On average only a few teams would be effected by 2 matches. 
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scott21 - 31 Aug 2016 3:44 PM
SoccerLogic - 31 Aug 2016 3:37 PM

Please see below comment. Also , NPL games can be played midweek. On average only a few teams would be effected by 2 matches. 

So can FFA Cup matches. What is your point?




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TheSelectFew - 31 Aug 2016 3:57 PM
scott21 - 31 Aug 2016 3:44 PM

So can FFA Cup matches. What is your point?


It is more convienent imo to play FFA Cup matches on the weekends for players. This has to do with time off work etc.. Intracity games can be played midweek with ease.



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I'm definitely in the Cup games should be played on the weekend camp. I don't care about peoples preferences for midweek football or player availability etc, mid week fixtures cause venue problems once we get to the televised stage. The lack of lighting at most clubs is the major reason why games have to be moved to regional grounds which make things pretty shit rather than giving them true home advantage. 

To me that contradicts the key idea of the cup, being that even A-League clubs could be brought down to the level and facilities of amateur football. Moving Games to Dorian gardens or Perry Park isn't good enough as it means the hosting club has to adapt to (semi) professional rather than than be give true home advantage.

Saturday 3pm should be the standard time slot. There is hardly any competition from AFL or NRL then as they move their games later and later anyway. Clubs equipped for televised night football can be scheduled for Monday/Tuesday night like in the FA Cup. It's standard practice around the world to reschedule a few league matches midweek rather than make all cup ties played then.

If the Scottish Cup was played under the same conditions as here with TV restrictions, the reality is most clubs below the championship/top of League 1 would have to ask SPFL clubs to play at their grounds as they'd have the exact same facility issues as NPL clubs here.


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I love midweek football. Breaks up the week, a good chance to get out to support the local game and eat some good food.
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azzaMVFC - 31 Aug 2016 4:44 PM
I love midweek football. Breaks up the week, a good chance to get out to support the local game and eat some good food.

I also enjoy it and have had a lot of fun with it this season but I'd cop losing that to ensure that we never have to see Palm Beach at Robina again for example.

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apparently Bentleigh Greens have applied to the FFA to hold the quarter final at AAMI Park i just seen.

it was via this link:
http://www.melbournevictory.net/showthread.php?62182-FFA-Cup-Qtr-Final-Bentleigh-Greens-v-Melbourne-Victory

but i'll wait for official word.
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Not going if that goes through.

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melbourne_terrace - 31 Aug 2016 4:27 PM
I'm definitely in the Cup games should be played on the weekend camp. I don't care about peoples preferences for midweek football or player availability etc, mid week fixtures cause venue problems once we get to the televised stage. The lack of lighting at most clubs is the major reason why games have to be moved to regional grounds which make things pretty shit rather than giving them true home advantage. 

To me that contradicts the key idea of the cup, being that even A-League clubs could be brought down to the level and facilities of amateur football. Moving Games to Dorian gardens or Perry Park isn't good enough as it means the hosting club has to adapt to (semi) professional rather than than be give true home advantage.

Saturday 3pm should be the standard time slot. There is hardly any competition from AFL or NRL then as they move their games later and later anyway. Clubs equipped for televised night football can be scheduled for Monday/Tuesday night like in the FA Cup. It's standard practice around the world to reschedule a few league matches midweek rather than make all cup ties played then.

If the Scottish Cup was played under the same conditions as here with TV restrictions, the reality is most clubs below the championship/top of League 1 would have to ask SPFL clubs to play at their grounds as they'd have the exact same facility issues as NPL clubs here.

Well summed 
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"FFA announce double header"
BG v MV ko 6pm
MC v WSW ko preliminary 8 pm

?

#ffastuff
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scott21 - 31 Aug 2016 6:07 PM
"FFA announce double header"BG v MV ko 6pmMC v WSW ko preliminary 8 pm?#ffastuff

Would be nice but potential for ET and penalties plus time for teams to warm up for the second game makes this impossible.


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melbourne_terrace - 31 Aug 2016 4:58 PM
azzaMVFC - 31 Aug 2016 4:44 PM

I also enjoy it and have had a lot of fun with it this season but I'd cop losing that to ensure that we never have to see Palm Beach at Robina again for example.

It was gonna be held at Robina regardless of what day it was on.


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biscuitman1871 - 31 Aug 2016 6:13 PM
scott21 - 31 Aug 2016 6:07 PM

Would be nice but potential for ET and penalties plus time for teams to warm up for the second game makes this impossible.

I'm definitely keen. That way I watch both. More football is more awesomeness
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melbourne_terrace - 31 Aug 2016 6:04 PM
Not going if that goes through.

removes any 'Magic Of The Cup' if it's a Bentleigh home game at AAMI. I'm not sure I'd go either..
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Match Report - Devonport Strikers v Bentleigh Greens & lighting issue for Quarter Final:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/inner-south/sport/bentleigh-greens-are-through-to-the-ffa-cup-quarterfinals/news-story/72289fcc0c4d580d44a372da4fcc622c
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there are issues needing to be worked out regarding improved lighting with Kingston Council if Bentleigh Greens v Melbourne Victory is going to held at Kingston Heath Soccer Complex.

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