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Hmm yeah, improve the facilities and provide a well-designed roof for the ground's lay out and orientation and perhaps leave capacity there for the stadium's eventual greater capacity upgrade to 25k... but the current capacity is well sufficient and perhaps a slight bump up by 1-2k would be well sufficient, but no more than that. Upgrade the facilities, make the stadium experience more comfortable and even accessible for all spectators, see the attendance of primary tenants Adelaide United slowly increase and like the Wanderers-model, let scarcity build, demand start to seriously push/exceed supply, and THEN seriously pursue greater expansion. melbourne_terrace wrote:quickflick wrote:Fucking tragic. The Adelaide Oval used to be one of the most picturesque cricket grounds in the world. As a result of redevelopment and making it a multi-purpose stadium, it has been ruined. And it's only getting worse. Utter tragedy. Yep, one of the worlds greatest grounds and now just another carbon copy AFL bowl. Indeed. :/ Kamaryn wrote:clifton wrote:A covered roof? Why do you need to cover a roof? It's a roof. CLASSIC! =d> =d> =d> =d> I genuinely laughed out loud! Hehe less the roof is covered... in terms of costs? Or, that roof is covered by insurance? :p Edited by GloryPerth: 19/2/2014 03:20:56 AM
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Kamaryn
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clifton wrote:A covered roof? Why do you need to cover a roof? It's a roof. CLASSIC! =d> =d> =d> =d> I genuinely laughed out loud!
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clifton wrote:A covered roof? Why do you need to cover a roof? It's a roof. I, personally, have no problem with it.
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A covered roof? Why do you need to cover a roof? It's a roof.
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paladisious wrote:davidbloop wrote:williamn wrote:Schultzy wrote:Redandwhite wrote:patjennings wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:paulc wrote:Last puissant game attracted 6950? :oops: Rain affected crowd. -PB Wettest Feb day in Adelaide since 1969 and Valentines Day and the Fringe Festival. All in all, I think it was actually not a bad turnout at all, plus several major roads north were flooded, I left work at 415, and got to game 10 mins in. I was at home getting chasnged for 5 mins. starting to sound more fickle than east sydney supporters If over 6,000 people rocking up while this was happening is fickle....    Then fine, we're fickle. Clearly you needed this:  :lol: :lol: :lol: Love it
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Multibet wrote:lukerobinho wrote:trosa001 wrote:We have been waiting for something like this for donkey years............but i cant see it happening. Football is offside with the majority of sport fans in SA and the government.
Rugby is not going to come to coopers stadium so for the government to give 75mil to upgrade a "soccer" stadium.i cant see it happening.
quite sad. a roof and the corners filled in would just be awesome. and the roof would make it a complete stadium very similar to AAMI Park in melbourne
the atmosphere and noise 25000 united supporters could make would equate to a full mcg afl game easily How about 6 thousand ? 25k AUFC fans is like 25k AFL fans...................................Adelaide united fans don't make that much noise tbh. Quick question, have you ever been to an Adelaide game?
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davidbloop wrote:williamn wrote:Schultzy wrote:Redandwhite wrote:patjennings wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:paulc wrote:Last puissant game attracted 6950? :oops: Rain affected crowd. -PB Wettest Feb day in Adelaide since 1969 and Valentines Day and the Fringe Festival. All in all, I think it was actually not a bad turnout at all, plus several major roads north were flooded, I left work at 415, and got to game 10 mins in. I was at home getting chasnged for 5 mins. starting to sound more fickle than east sydney supporters If over 6,000 people rocking up while this was happening is fickle....    Then fine, we're fickle. Clearly you needed this:
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melbourne_terrace wrote:And the attendance thread
but anyway i'll just copy what i said.
Doesn't seem like they want to do the upgrade for the right reasons. A roof and expansion isn't going to attract a Rugby team to play 5 times a year. The ARU work by the FFA school of thought and give all extra National Team games to Sydney and the Rebels might do a pre season game or some other token fixture there but no NRL team is desperate enough to whore itself out to another city for more than one game a year. The worst bit is they are actually considering extending the pitch when the ground is perfect atm and is primarily a football ground. Plenty of Rugby games in England are played on football grounds just use a smaller in goal area than usual.
A roof or some basic cover should be happening now and built to allow a possible expansion if needed but no expansion of the ground should happen until AU average 15k a game
It has happened for the past 3 years. It's usually Cantebury and some red & white mob ( St. George? ) There has also has been talk for many years now about re-enstating the Adelaide Rams franchise, But really someone hasn't done their homework, it's been discussed on here before that by blocking in the corners major roads are affected as is land, Plus a 50% clouded roof in our climate would really play havoc with the grass + make the inside like a sauna.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:quickflick wrote:Fucking tragic. The Adelaide Oval used to be one of the most picturesque cricket grounds in the world. As a result of redevelopment and making it a multi-purpose stadium, it has been ruined. And it's only getting worse. Utter tragedy. Yep, one of the worlds greatest grounds and now just another carbon copy AFL bowl. But that's the 21st century for you. You have to upgrade in order to attract good events even if it comes at the cost of demolishing what was there before.
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williamn wrote:Schultzy wrote:Redandwhite wrote:patjennings wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:paulc wrote:Last puissant game attracted 6950? :oops: Rain affected crowd. -PB Wettest Feb day in Adelaide since 1969 and Valentines Day and the Fringe Festival. All in all, I think it was actually not a bad turnout at all, plus several major roads north were flooded, I left work at 415, and got to game 10 mins in. I was at home getting chasnged for 5 mins. starting to sound more fickle than east sydney supporters If over 6,000 people rocking up while this was happening is fickle....    Then fine, we're fickle.
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Multibet wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:And the attendance thread
but anyway i'll just copy what i said.
Doesn't seem like they want to do the upgrade for the right reasons. A roof and expansion isn't going to attract a Rugby team to play 5 times a year. The ARU work by the FFA school of thought and give all extra National Team games to Sydney and the Rebels might do a pre season game or some other token fixture there but no NRL team is desperate enough to whore itself out to another city for more than one game a year. The worst bit is they are actually considering extending the pitch when the ground is perfect atm and is primarily a football ground. Plenty of Rugby games in England are played on football grounds just use a smaller in goal area than usual.
A roof or some basic cover should be happening now and built to allow a possible expansion if needed but no expansion of the ground should happen until AU average 15k a game
Those shorter grounds are actually dangerous for the Rugby codes.......................What happens when the half back puts a kick through into the in goal and 2 players are charging to get to the ball to score a try? Bamm straight into the mettle fence and a potentially season ending injury. Possibly but in Rugby League there is precedent to make it work. The Super League grand final is played at Old Trafford and the Challenge Cup final is at Wembley and the halves there adapt to the smaller In-Goal area by playing their kicks more horizontally so they go across the in-goal area rather than right on the goal line like you constantly see in the NRL. Melbourne Storm also used to do this at Olympic Park as their was never enough grass for a full sized pitch, they still do this at AAMI Park, even with the space for a full pitch, as it's now a part of their game plan and got in a massive scrap with the NRL about doing this in finals at the Durka Dome. Edited by melbourne_terrace: 17/2/2014 10:43:28 AM
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lukerobinho wrote:trosa001 wrote:We have been waiting for something like this for donkey years............but i cant see it happening. Football is offside with the majority of sport fans in SA and the government.
Rugby is not going to come to coopers stadium so for the government to give 75mil to upgrade a "soccer" stadium.i cant see it happening.
quite sad. a roof and the corners filled in would just be awesome. and the roof would make it a complete stadium very similar to AAMI Park in melbourne
the atmosphere and noise 25000 united supporters could make would equate to a full mcg afl game easily How about 6 thousand ? 25k AUFC fans is like 25k AFL fans...................................Adelaide united fans don't make that much noise tbh.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:And the attendance thread
but anyway i'll just copy what i said.
Doesn't seem like they want to do the upgrade for the right reasons. A roof and expansion isn't going to attract a Rugby team to play 5 times a year. The ARU work by the FFA school of thought and give all extra National Team games to Sydney and the Rebels might do a pre season game or some other token fixture there but no NRL team is desperate enough to whore itself out to another city for more than one game a year. The worst bit is they are actually considering extending the pitch when the ground is perfect atm and is primarily a football ground. Plenty of Rugby games in England are played on football grounds just use a smaller in goal area than usual.
A roof or some basic cover should be happening now and built to allow a possible expansion if needed but no expansion of the ground should happen until AU average 15k a game
Those shorter grounds are actually dangerous for the Rugby codes.......................What happens when the half back puts a kick through into the in goal and 2 players are charging to get to the ball to score a try? Bamm straight into the mettle fence and a potentially season ending injury.
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quickflick wrote:Fucking tragic. The Adelaide Oval used to be one of the most picturesque cricket grounds in the world. As a result of redevelopment and making it a multi-purpose stadium, it has been ruined. And it's only getting worse. Utter tragedy. Yep, one of the worlds greatest grounds and now just another carbon copy AFL bowl.
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Schultzy wrote:Redandwhite wrote:patjennings wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:paulc wrote:Last puissant game attracted 6950? :oops: Rain affected crowd. -PB Wettest Feb day in Adelaide since 1969 and Valentines Day and the Fringe Festival. All in all, I think it was actually not a bad turnout at all, plus several major roads north were flooded, I left work at 415, and got to game 10 mins in. I was at home getting chasnged for 5 mins. starting to sound more fickle than east sydney supporters
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Fucking tragic. The Adelaide Oval used to be one of the most picturesque cricket grounds in the world. As a result of redevelopment and making it a multi-purpose stadium, it has been ruined. And it's only getting worse. Utter tragedy.
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So 45 million for the roof to be made. 30 million to add a few thousand seats, well to go from 17,000 to 25,000 seats... Im happy enough just the the roof alone.
Still I noticed 1 thing... I remember a few years ago, Adelaide United only had to pay $35,000 just to rent out Hindmarsh. When the AEC came in and own the stadium, it has jumped up to $50-60,000 a game. Keep in mind the AEC is trying to be self sufficient and trying to be profitable without government handouts. If the NRL did actually field a South Australian Rugby league side here in Adelaide, The AEC will double their revenue in rent.
The negative I will find out of this if the roof or seating increase or both plans go through, The AEC might increase the rental prices again.
Im pissed off with the SA government, they are willing to put 700 million into the Adelaide oval upgrade but will not go through with this.
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Redandwhite wrote:patjennings wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:paulc wrote:Last puissant game attracted 6950? :oops: Rain affected crowd. -PB Wettest Feb day in Adelaide since 1969 and Valentines Day and the Fringe Festival. All in all, I think it was actually not a bad turnout at all, plus several major roads north were flooded, I left work at 415, and got to game 10 mins in. I was at home getting chasnged for 5 mins.
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patjennings wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:paulc wrote:Last puissant game attracted 6950? :oops: Rain affected crowd. -PB Wettest Feb day in Adelaide since 1969 and Valentines Day and the Fringe Festival. All in all, I think it was actually not a bad turnout at all,
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Some billionaire should just buy it for Adelaide.
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paulbagzFC wrote:paulc wrote:Last puissant game attracted 6950? :oops: Rain affected crowd. -PB Wettest Feb day in Adelaide since 1969
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paulc wrote:Last puissant game attracted 6950? :oops: Rain affected crowd. -PB
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Kamaryn
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williamn wrote:seriously bidding for the commonwealth games. would be ridiculous if aus gets to host it 3 times over a 24 year period Probably unfair, but not necessarily unrealistic. In reality, of the 21 games that have happened, they have only been hosted by 9 countries. 3 of those countries were Malaysia, Jamaica and Wales - not the sort of countries that are going to get regular rights as they don't have the facilities in enough different cities. That only leaves us, NZ, Eng, Scotland, India and Canada. I don't know if you could take it to India regularly, whilst you probably can't for Scotland or New Zealand due to the limited number of major cities. England don't get to host it often either as I think (I could be wrong) they are counted together with Ireland and Scotland as home nations (and so have to share rights between them). In the end, it doesn't leave a lot of choices. It basically goes down to rotating between us, NZ, Canada and Ireland/Scotland/England. It sucks for the smaller countries, but that's the way it works. Edited by Kamaryn: 16/2/2014 05:07:18 PM
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Redeveloping Hindmarsh is not the best of ideas in my opinion. Due to the tight spaces around the stands and the positioning of the stadium itself it doesn't really allow for a proper upgrade. The best option really is to build a new stadium and training/club facilities on the park site on Glover Avenue. Either side would be alright, but the side nearer to the river is more preferable due to the high school being on the other side. You can build quite a decent 20,000 capacity stadium with room to expand for far less than 250 million. You don't want to go all guns blazing and build a 30k stadium which only has 10k fans in it every week. Its also my understanding that transport to this are would be better too with a train station and tram station only minutes away.
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seriously bidding for the commonwealth games. would be ridiculous if aus gets to host it 3 times over a 24 year period
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Crusader wrote:The only guarantee in the article is that AEC plans a massive price hike for the pissants. Some pie in the sky predictions to give a little justification for it. Yeah, I got that impression too.
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The only guarantee in the article is that AEC plans a massive price hike for the pissants. Some pie in the sky predictions to give a little justification for it.
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An extra 7 metres to get the potential extra negotiating support of the rugby codes is a ridiculously good deal. I have no doubt that AFL headquarters cannot be worked with and will do all they can to undermine us, but I think that if football wants better rectangular facilities in this country, strategically allying with the NRL and ARU in lobbying government makes a lot of sense (maybe not so much in SA admittedly but elsewhere at least). It's a very small price to pay for potentially great gain.
Edited by Kamaryn: 16/2/2014 04:21:41 PM
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Last puissant game attracted 6950? :oops:
In a resort somewhere
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I'd happily sacrifice the extra length at the ends for this, would be perfect size and with enhanced transport links would be brilliant for getting people in and out.
Though i would think some air conditioning would be needed if the temps are gonna be 3-4 degrees warmer inside than out it aint gonna be nice playing a 4 o'clock arvo game on a lovely 43 degree adelaide summers day.
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