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tbitm wrote:
paladisious wrote:
Looking at the NPLV1 table, St Albans Saints are in third with 18 points from seven wins and two draws. Is the table software stuffed or did they get deductions?


"We were initially served the ‘Breach Notice’ on the 15th of April regarding our club failing to field an NPL Under 13’s team for a match scheduled on the 13th of April against Hume City."

http://stalbanssaints.com/ffv-deduct-points-from-saints/

Seems a bit extreme to deduct points from the senior team for not fielding U13's


Shit decision. Thought it was being appealed.


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Also mods can we Make this a sticky instead of the vpl one. Likewise with the FFA cup qualifying thread.
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paladisious wrote:
Looking at the NPLV1 table, St Albans Saints are in third with 18 points from seven wins and two draws. Is the table software stuffed or did they get deductions?


"We were initially served the ‘Breach Notice’ on the 15th of April regarding our club failing to field an NPL Under 13’s team for a match scheduled on the 13th of April against Hume City."

http://stalbanssaints.com/ffv-deduct-points-from-saints/

Seems a bit extreme to deduct points from the senior team for not fielding U13's
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Trying to solve the CT conundrum
26.05.2014
Go inside the mind of Chris Taylor, the man who has led South Melbourne to its tenth-straight NPL win.

By Craig MacKenzie


(Image credit: Cindy Nitsos)

Chris Taylor is a complex character. So is his former coach John Gardiner.

Their paths crossed at Sunshine George Cross in the 1980s and the indelible mark left on Taylor by the football genius of Gardiner is there to see.

It’s as if Taylor has taken on the coaching persona of his one-time mentor, in fact there is an eerie similarity in some of their mannerisms.

Taylor’s deadpan gameday expression in the dugout or standing in the technical area chin resting in the palm of one hand as he ponders his next move are Gardinerisms.

So is his usual greeting, eyes peering up from a slightly bowed head, a seeming shyness that camouflages the warrior within.

If Taylor wasn’t such a successful football coach he could be a world-class poker player.

Mere mortals such as us who look upon Taylor from afar have little chance of getting to know him well.

His players are much closer but they have no chance of unravelling his mystique because he won’t let them.

“I think when you are coaching you are trying to get the best out of individuals and one of the philosophies I’m really big on is that I need to know more about my players than they’ll ever know about me, “ Taylor said.

“Sometimes coaching involves a bit of front. Coaching often is about managing situations and sometimes by looking like you’re upset you can get a positive response. But that’s just part of my style of managing people.”

It’s a style that gained impetus at Thomastown over two decades ago (as assistant to Ken Murphy), then developed at Sunbury, Altona Magic, Melbourne Raiders, Green Gully, Altona East Phoenix, Sunshine George Cross, Melbourne Knights and Dandenong Thunder.

His journey also includes being Victorian state coach and winning dual VPL Coach of the Year honours as well as coaching Victorian state junior sides and a gig as head zone coach with the Southern Blue Tongues in the Victorian Champions League.

It’s been a journey with a purpose and that purpose becomes all too clear when he talks about his current destination.

“I’ve done the hard yards and I’ve worked very, very hard to get here. It’s been a long process but it’s nice to look back on all that work and say to yourself that it’s really paid off because now you are at South Melbourne, the most famous football club in Australia.

“For me South Melbourne is still the biggest and the best club going around.

“You can say that Victory has been a fantastic invention and certainly they are the flagship of the A-League but there are other clubs there that pale into insignificance when compared to South Melbourne.”

Taylor is one of the highest credentialled coaches in Victoria and is about to complete his AFC A Licence.

He has a liberal dose of football pragmatism and he is forthright.

His views can ruffle feathers and are significant points of difference between him and some of his counterparts.

“I learned a lot from John Gardiner and what he taught me is still relevant today despite the different buzzwords in use now.

“We all want to play like Barcelona or Real Madrid then reality kicks in and if you haven’t got the cattle you have to adjust your philosophy to achieve your outcomes.

“Sometimes outcomes may be the way you play football, other times it might be results.

“I find that a lot of coaches I speak to get lost in philosophies.”

Not Taylor though and this is where his competitive nature takes over.

“If you ask me whether I’m outcomes or results driven I’d love to say outcomes but results mean a lot to me. I want to win every game we play.

"I know that’s not what everyone wants to hear but I see a lot of coaches going around and painting a pretty picture of how many passes their team has and that they play a lot of possession brands which tends to gloss over the result.

“People don’t get passionate when they get beat but they get passionate when they win and at the end of the day the game is about results.

“We say that kids just play for the enjoyment but I wouldn’t like to be a kid growing up and getting beaten every week. For me results are paramount.”

Once the dust settled earlier this year from the off-season stoush between clubs and FFV over the structure of the NPL, Taylor got down to business assembling a squad that could face the challenge of competing in four major competitions – NPL Victoria, NPL (national) Championship, Dockerty Cup and FFA Cup.

And it didn’t take him long to make heads turn by selecting 15-year-old former junior Andy Kecojevic in his first-team squad.

“I feel I’ve got a duty in terms of what we are trying to achieve at the club and while it would be nice to go out and get the best players available we’re aiming at building a culture within the club that takes the club to another level.

“Part of that is to either promote from within or get young players from other clubs that fall into line with what the NPL is all about.

“Younger players are great to work with anyway. They are enthusiastic and respond well.

“Okay, not every one of them is going to be a success but I certainly believe that we will create talented players as we have been doing over the years.

“Sometimes a young player just needs that opportunity and encouragement they might not always get offered at other clubs.”

When Taylor casts his net it can drift far and wide as evidenced by last week’s capture of 19-year-old midfielder Dion Kirk from Adelaide United.

Kirk was Adelaide’s Most Valuable Player in last season’s National Youth League and his signing is yet another statement of intent from Taylor.

“We think Dion (Kirk) has a lot of potential and he’s a prime example of what we are trying to do,” Taylor said.

“We are trying to enhance what the NPL wants to do and this is to give young kids an opportunity.

“We want to keep improving and although we’re doing okay at the moment we might need to freshen things up when the transfer window opens. We’ll see.

“But it’s not a case of going out and changing for the sake of change.”

On and off the field life’s good for the man his mates call ‘CT’.

Sunday’s 1-0 win away from home against Werribee was the club’s tenth in a row, the greatest start to a season in a history that dates back to 1959.

And Taylor’s personal life is stable and fulfilling. He has married for the second time and he and partner Michelle have a four-year-old son, Ryder.

“Obviously I’m very fortunate at my age to have a four-year-old son and Michelle and Ryder are my main priorities so everything else runs a very distant second after that.”

Distant it may be but coaching in a sport he is passionate about means a lot to him.


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“I get nervous all the time before games.

“As a coach you can’t directly affect the result of a game other than by making certain changes which means that you are relying on other people to achieve what you want to achieve.

“I love being involved at this level. I really do like local football and that’s where my focus has been for some time.”

But now and again Taylor allows himself time to dream, to imagine what his football future may hold and it’s a positive future that emerges.

“Without doubt I’d love to be a full-time coach but that would be the ultimate goal for a lot of people in football and it’s often not possible here because of limited opportunity.

“To be coaching South Melbourne in the A-League is my dream and I like to think that that is possible.

“I like to think that it’s more logical than some of the other ideas that are being floated around at the moment.

“If South Melbourne was in the A-League I don’t think that our crowds would be any less than some of the clubs in the competition right now.

“South Melbourne as a whole would probably need to market itself a bit differently but the infrastructure and the people are there and I don’t think that it’s a far-fetched idea.

“I think it would only enhance the A-League.”

Whether or not that dream proves to be pie-in-the-sky remains to be seen and currently the greatest source of satisfaction for Taylor in football terms comes from helping to make players better.

“It’s a great feeling, it really is. I guess a prime example is to see a player like Ivan Franjic get selected to go to a World Cup.

“If you believe that you’ve played a small part in his development then it’s a fantastic feeling and as a coach it makes everything worthwhile.”

It’s even better than winning awards which has become almost commonplace for Taylor.

“I’m not so sure that these awards mean a great deal because they are individual awards and being a coach isn’t about being an individual.

“For me the greatest thing a coach can do is to take a club and change the situation they are in and build a better future for them.

“I like to think that I’ve done that in most cases.

“When I’ve been to a club I think I’ve taken them to a better place in terms of developing players and probably improving the club overall.”

Taylor can hold his head high if that turns out to be his legacy at the most famous football club in Australia.

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Looking at the NPLV1 table, St Albans Saints are in third with 18 points from seven wins and two draws. Is the table software stuffed or did they get deductions?
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1-0 to south to make it 10 from 10 and 9 points clear at the top. You definitely don't want your a-league side in preseason to be playing south in this kind of form.

I've watched a few YouTube highlights and do look quite dominate, but that could just be because it is souths channel. But Ben, I think you said at the start that South weren't really playing that well. Has this changed? Two consecutive 1-0 scores usually mean scrappy affairs but I could be wrong.

And is there a bigger buzz around the club now with the current form and potential FFA cup matches? Looked like about 1000 people at the pascoevale game, is this higher than previous years?

And here's a table update

South Melbourne FC -30
Oakleigh Cannons FC -21
Heidelberg United SC -21
Dandenong Thunder SC -17
Bentleigh Greens SC -14
Northcote City FC -13
Hume City FC -13
Werribee City FC -13
Port Melbourne Sharks FC -12
Green Gully SC -12
Ballarat Red Devils SC -10
Melbourne Knights FC -9
Pascoe Vale SC -9
Goulburn Valley Suns FC -4

All on 10 games but Bentleigh and Ballarat.
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CL wrote:
and bless the FFV for not publishing the cap totals for squads this season


They are enforcing the visa quota, and that's the only element of the cap that ever should have mattered.

Meanwhile, South are top of the table with one of the youngest squads in the NPL-V.

Oakleigh lost last night, meaning South are now 6 points clear with a game in hand.

EDIT: South won. 9 points clear after 10 games.

Milos Lujic with 10 goals from 10 games; Jason Saldaris with 6 clean-sheets from 10.

Have just strengthened the squad by signing Adelaide Utd youth team MVP for last season.

Edited by Benjamin: 26/5/2014 04:22:47 PM
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and bless the FFV for not publishing the cap totals for squads this season
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This is why we need a second division.South Melbourne recruited perfectly. Picking up a New Zealand youth international, young ex A-League player, a Welsh Semi pro international and plenty of young stars on the books. I reckon they are gonna be giant killers. A second division is a must.


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paladisious wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Position: 1
Played: 9
Won: 9
Drawn: 0
Lost: 0
Goals for: 22
Goals against: 7

6 point lead over 2nd place.

I don't expect us to be 100% all season - but I'm going to enjoy it whilst it lasts.


An exceptional run, and the right year to do it, too.


Indeed, first past the post makes a big difference - especially as I can think of a couple of players who may be chased by A-League sides in the second half of the season - we need a lead in case we lose them.
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Benjamin wrote:
Position: 1
Played: 9
Won: 9
Drawn: 0
Lost: 0
Goals for: 22
Goals against: 7

6 point lead over 2nd place.

I don't expect us to be 100% all season - but I'm going to enjoy it whilst it lasts.


An exceptional run, and the right year to do it, too.
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Position: 1
Played: 9
Won: 9
Drawn: 0
Lost: 0
Goals for: 22
Goals against: 7

6 point lead over 2nd place.

I don't expect us to be 100% all season - but I'm going to enjoy it whilst it lasts.
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Werribee City are a dark horse. 0-3 away victors at Dandenong.


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melbourne_terrace wrote:
South are killing it, it'd be cool to see them in the national championships if they keep it up. Did you have a look at the facilities by any chance imonfft?


Funny thing is we've been pretty scrappy so far - only played 2-3 good halves to date - but we're very hard to beat, and we're always going to score goals.
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HIGHLIGHTS: Hume City v. Melbourne Knights - 4/5/14

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South are killing it, it'd be cool to see them in the national championships if they keep it up. Did you have a look at the facilities by any chance imonfft?

Viennese Vuck

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FT (90+5') - South grind out another win and break a Club record for most consecutive wins to start a League season!


Sounds like it was a good game, sorry I couldn't make it down for it.

Can't wait for the stands to be built on both sides at Morsehead.
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South Melbourne 2-1 Ballarat Red Devils

Last night Oakleigh absolutely smashed Dandenong Thunder 6-0.

Bentleigh lost 3-2 at Green Gully today - so the top top beginning to open a gap.

South Melbourne Pld 7 W 7 D0 L0 21pts
Oakleigh Cannons Pld 7 W5 D2 L0 17 pts
Bentleigh Greens Pld 7 W4 D1 D2 13 pts

South next week vs Bentleigh - big match.
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Latest photos of Morshead Park before the opening match this Saturday, far from completed but starting to shape up nicely!






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thejollyvic wrote:
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Long way to go but...

1   South Melbourne FC    5   5   0   0   16   5   9   15
2   Oakleigh Cannons FC    5   3   0   2   11   4   7   11
3   Dandenong Thunder SC   5   3   0   2   6   3   3   11

4 points clear, baby.


the traditional melbourne derby this weekend against knights?


don't follow either side but will be heading down always a cracker of a game


Bit of a rough first half - fantastic save from Saldaris but nothing much else to talk about. Second half a lot better, Milos coming up with the goods again. 6 out of 6 now. Setting ourselves up pretty well for the season.

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[youtube]IUY5M6cbi9U[/youtube]


I said when Gaspa scored that one in the first weekend that no one would top it this season - my opinion hasn't changed. Blinding goal.
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[youtube]IUY5M6cbi9U[/youtube]


Some fantastic goals tbh.


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19-SU-58 wrote:
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Long way to go but...

1   South Melbourne FC    5   5   0   0   16   5   9   15
2   Oakleigh Cannons FC    5   3   0   2   11   4   7   11
3   Dandenong Thunder SC   5   3   0   2   6   3   3   11

4 points clear, baby.


the traditional melbourne derby this weekend against knights?


don't follow either side but will be heading down always a cracker of a game
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NPL Round 6 & NPL 1 Round 5

Port Melbourne Sharks 0-4 Heidelberg United ( Own Goal 18' Kanakaris 40' Vasilevski 46' 69' )
Bentleigh Greens 3-1 Dandenong Thunder ( Stirton 49' 59' Jeggo 85' - Jinks 47' )
Green Gully 2-1 Goulburn Valley Suns ( Fisher 20' Ederado 82' )
Northcote City 4-1 Werribee City FC ( Rixon 27' 55' Wooding 42' Catalano 63' - Zappia 80' )
Pascoe Vale 2-2 Ballarat Red Devils ( Ferrante 78' Megic 89' - Swinton 36' Milardovic OG 75' )
Hume City 0-2 Oakleigh Cannons ( Bosnjak 11' Foster 40' )
Melbourne Knights 0-1 South Melbourne ( Ljuic 84' )

NPL LADDER

       P   W   L   D   F   A   GD   PTS
1   South Melbourne FC    5   5   0   0   16   5   11   15
2   Oakleigh Cannons FC    5   3   0   2   11   4   7   11
3   Dandenong Thunder SC   5   3   0   2   6   3   3   11
4   Bentleigh Greens SC    4   3   0   1   8   4   4   10
5   Werribee City FC    5   3   2   0   8   10   -2   9
6   Heidelberg United SC    5   2   3   0   12   11   1   6
7   Melbourne Knights FC   5   2   3   0   7   7   0   6
8   Hume City FC    5   2   3   0   5   6   -1   6
9   Ballarat Red Devils SC   4   2   2   0   8   9   -1   6
10   Northcote City FC    5   2   3   0   7   9   -2   6
11   Port Melbourne Sharks    5   1   2   2   8   9   -1   5
12   Pascoe Vale SC    5   1   3   1   3   8   -5   4
13   Green Gully SC    5   1   4   0   9   15   -6   3
14   Goulburn Valley Suns FC   5   0   5   0   8   16   -8   0

NPL 1 Round 5

Whittlesea Ranges 2-3 Brunswick City ( Dimitrieski 49' 76' - Vithoulkas 62' Sadik 75' Mazzolini 92' )
Avondale Heights 3-0 Moreland Zebras ( Krhapko ? Pajic 32' Principato 88' )
Sunshine George Cross 0-1 St Albans Saints ( Danek 90' )
Kingston City 2-0 North Geelong Warriors ( Papadopolous 60' Etheridge 90 )
Box Hill United 1-3 Springvale White Eagles ( Kokalakis 38' - Fesseha 46' Millar 73' 90' )
FC Bendigo 1-4 Richmond (Waterson 36' - Cahill 18' 72' Armenian 45+1' Romein OG 81' )
FC Bulleen Lions 1-1 Dandenong City ( Katebian 37' - Borghesi 90+1' )

NPL 1 LADDER

    P   W   L   D   F   A   GD   PTS
1   Box Hill United SC    4   4   0   0   11   1   10   12
2   Sunshine George Cross    4   3   0   1   8   4   4   10
3   Avondale Heights SC    4   3   1   0   11   5   6   9
4   St Albans Saints SC    4   3   1   0   11   7   4   9
5   North Geelong Warriors    4   3   1   0   7   4   3   9
6   FC Bulleen Lions    4   2   1   1   8   6   2   7
7   Kingston City FC    4   2   2   0   9   9   0   6
8   Dandenong City SC    4   2   2   0   10   10   0   6
9   Moreland Zebras FC    4   1   2   1   9   8   1   4
10   Whittlesea Ranges FC    4   1   2   1   7   9   -2   4
11   Richmond SC Seniors   4   1   2   1   5   12   -7   4
12   FC Bendigo    4   0   3   1   6   9   -3   1
13   Springvale White Eagles    4   0   4   0   6   14   -8   0
14   Brunswick City SC    4   0   4   0   3   13   -10   0





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Benjamin wrote:
Long way to go but...

1   South Melbourne FC    5   5   0   0   16   5   9   15
2   Oakleigh Cannons FC    5   3   0   2   11   4   7   11
3   Dandenong Thunder SC   5   3   0   2   6   3   3   11

4 points clear, baby.


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