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Ok, that spat rest is over.
Ima bump this to the next page so no one has to read the abortion of a convo that took place here.
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ricecrackers wrote:tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson for f**ks sake :lol:
the first one is a clown the second just talks about 'cool' stuff
they're both designed to indoctrinate kids as thats about the level of their teaching expertise damn you have high standards, Neil degrasse Tyson only works at the Hayden planetarium at the museum of natural history and has a PHD in astrophysics. Bill Nye was only a mechanical engineer at Boeing. [size=7]Nonetheless they are both some of the biggest scientific voices to the public hence I'm sure they want to remain credible and not sell out to money interests.[/size] lol @ the delusion Congrats on your 1000th post. Given all you can do is insult as opposed to give me details on to who they are selling out too, out debate can't really go on. they're celebrities, they're not credible scientists and they're not climate scientists nor meteorologists. they're not qualified to speak about climate related issues with any authority and yet they do so because they're paid to by networks who are sponsored by the same cabal that sponsors climate alarmism they simply dispense glib half truths to the ignorant who think because something sounds right then it must be so its a snake oil trick from the 19th century like i said, a new one is born every minute Bill Nye is a brand. thats why he wears the bow tie. he's an actor acting like a climate scientist on television for kids - like you in other words, no they don't make money off talking about it and you're full of shit. Bill nye did that stupid creation debate and gave all the proceeds to charity. And you'd have to be fucking retarded to think he's getting paid to go on tv for interviews. Then again They're fucking famous without talking about climate change you fucking idiot. Atleast put on your tin hat and say they're gonna make big bucks off a solar panel industry or something. Also, it's not an insult to call me a kid. Kids are much smarter than adults are when it comes to just about everything relevant in today's society. so you whine about being insulted and now you call me a "fucking idiot". nice type you are. just like all the other morons you're nothing more than a fanatical extremist. there is megabucks in the climate change industry and its not just solar panels. they're small fry. the cap and trade taxes are where the big dollars are at. its a boon for bankers as well as the oil/gas industry which is taxed at a lower rate than coal. various NGOs and scientific studies with foregone conclusions are also a massive gravy train as the advertising budget is seen as an investment. furthermore a lot of it is paid for by governments, ie the taxpayer so the profiteers are getting some of it for free. so naive are you. Bill Nye has been widely discredited on various issues in the field of science. on climate change he's barely at elementary school level. I've re-edited my post above. Cleared up a few things. And I don't usually get pissy with people on the internet but you're one dumb motherfucker. Let's be honest, have you been 'nice' either, so don't act all offended like a typical right winger victim all of a sudden. Any reports these guys are corrupt or should I just take yours and Alex jones word on this one? FYI, I didn't "whine". You couldn't refute what I said and resorted to insults which is a sign that someone is losing an argument and I just pointed it out. Edited by tbitm: 20/5/2014 01:28:10 AM
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tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson for f**ks sake :lol:
the first one is a clown the second just talks about 'cool' stuff
they're both designed to indoctrinate kids as thats about the level of their teaching expertise damn you have high standards, Neil degrasse Tyson only works at the Hayden planetarium at the museum of natural history and has a PHD in astrophysics. Bill Nye was only a mechanical engineer at Boeing. [size=7]Nonetheless they are both some of the biggest scientific voices to the public hence I'm sure they want to remain credible and not sell out to money interests.[/size] lol @ the delusion Congrats on your 1000th post. Given all you can do is insult as opposed to give me details on to who they are selling out too, out debate can't really go on. they're celebrities, they're not credible scientists and they're not climate scientists nor meteorologists. they're not qualified to speak about climate related issues with any authority and yet they do so because they're paid to by networks who are sponsored by the same cabal that sponsors climate alarmism they simply dispense glib half truths to the ignorant who think because something sounds right then it must be so its a snake oil trick from the 19th century like i said, a new one is born every minute Bill Nye is a brand. thats why he wears the bow tie. he's an actor acting like a climate scientist on television for kids - like you in other words, no they don't make money off talking about it and you're full of shit. They're fucking famous without talking about climate change you fucking idiot. Atleast put on your tin hat and say they're gonna make big bucks off a solar panel industry or something. so you whine about being insulted and now you call me a "fucking idiot". nice type you are. just like all the other morons you're nothing more than a fanatical extremist. there is megabucks in the climate change industry and its not just solar panels. they're small fry. the cap and trade taxes are where the big dollars are at. its a boon for bankers as well as the oil/gas industry which is taxed at a lower rate than coal. various NGOs and scientific studies with foregone conclusions are also a massive gravy train as the advertising budget is seen as an investment. furthermore a lot of it is paid for by governments, ie the taxpayer so the profiteers are getting some of it for free. so naive are you. Bill Nye has been widely discredited on various issues in the field of science. on climate change he's barely at elementary school level.
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ricecrackers wrote:tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson for f**ks sake :lol:
the first one is a clown the second just talks about 'cool' stuff
they're both designed to indoctrinate kids as thats about the level of their teaching expertise damn you have high standards, Neil degrasse Tyson only works at the Hayden planetarium at the museum of natural history and has a PHD in astrophysics. Bill Nye was only a mechanical engineer at Boeing. [size=7]Nonetheless they are both some of the biggest scientific voices to the public hence I'm sure they want to remain credible and not sell out to money interests.[/size] lol @ the delusion Congrats on your 1000th post. Given all you can do is insult as opposed to give me details on to who they are selling out too, out debate can't really go on. they're celebrities, they're not credible scientists and they're not climate scientists nor meteorologists. they're not qualified to speak about climate related issues with any authority and yet they do so because they're paid to by networks who are sponsored by the same cabal that sponsors climate alarmism they simply dispense glib half truths to the ignorant who think because something sounds right then it must be so its a snake oil trick from the 19th century like i said, a new one is born every minute Bill Nye is a brand. thats why he wears the bow tie. he's an actor acting like a climate scientist on television for kids - like you in other words, no they don't make money off talking about it and you're full of shit. Bill nye did that stupid creation debate and gave all the proceeds to charity. And you'd have to be fucking retarded to think he's getting paid to go on tv for interviews. Then again :-k They're fucking famous without talking about climate change you fucking idiot. Atleast put on your tin hat and say they're gonna make big bucks off a solar panel industry or something. Also, it's not an insult to call me a kid. Kids are much smarter than adults are when it comes to just about everything relevant in today's society. Edited by tbitm: 20/5/2014 01:19:08 AM
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tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson for f**ks sake :lol:
the first one is a clown the second just talks about 'cool' stuff
they're both designed to indoctrinate kids as thats about the level of their teaching expertise damn you have high standards, Neil degrasse Tyson only works at the Hayden planetarium at the museum of natural history and has a PHD in astrophysics. Bill Nye was only a mechanical engineer at Boeing. [size=7]Nonetheless they are both some of the biggest scientific voices to the public hence I'm sure they want to remain credible and not sell out to money interests.[/size] lol @ the delusion Congrats on your 1000th post. Given all you can do is insult as opposed to give me details on to who they are selling out too, out debate can't really go on. they're celebrities, they're not credible scientists and they're not climate scientists nor meteorologists. they're not qualified to speak about climate related issues with any authority and yet they do so because they're paid to by networks who are sponsored by the same cabal that sponsors climate alarmism they simply dispense glib half truths to the ignorant who think because something sounds right then it must be so its a snake oil trick from the 19th century like i said, a new one is born every minute Bill Nye is a brand. thats why he wears the bow tie. he's an actor acting like a climate scientist on television for kids - like you
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ricecrackers wrote:tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson for f**ks sake :lol:
the first one is a clown the second just talks about 'cool' stuff
they're both designed to indoctrinate kids as thats about the level of their teaching expertise damn you have high standards, Neil degrasse Tyson only works at the Hayden planetarium at the museum of natural history and has a PHD in astrophysics. Bill Nye was only a mechanical engineer at Boeing. [size=7]Nonetheless they are both some of the biggest scientific voices to the public hence I'm sure they want to remain credible and not sell out to money interests.[/size] lol @ the delusion Congrats on your 1000th post. Given all you can do is insult as opposed to give me details on to who they are selling out too, out debate can't really go on.
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RedKat wrote:Firstly that article does not look at all reliable.
Secondly, youve still failed to explain what is wrong with the scientific method in explaining phenomena such as climate change.
Thirdly, you are proving my point that the science has been politicised to such a point that people now think they are entitled to an opinion on the matter rather than letting the science explain things properly like i said, its a pointless exercise when the fanatical indoctrination is so deeply ingrained i can put irrefutable proof of corruption in front of your eyes covering every possible angle but you'll still deny it and i dont have all year time will prove me right
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tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson for f**ks sake :lol:
the first one is a clown the second just talks about 'cool' stuff
they're both designed to indoctrinate kids as thats about the level of their teaching expertise damn you have high standards, Neil degrasse Tyson only works at the Hayden planetarium at the museum of natural history and has a PHD in astrophysics. Bill Nye was only a mechanical engineer at Boeing. [size=7]Nonetheless they are both some of the biggest scientific voices to the public hence I'm sure they want to remain credible and not sell out to money interests.[/size] lol @ the delusion
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thupercoach wrote:leftrightout wrote:This is what people overlook. Climate change will happen regardless of anything. Look no further than the Ice Age and it's pretty clear things have warmed up since than. Nature is a cunt. A Prime Minister? This forums filter for ç.unt. :lol:
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ricecrackers wrote:Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson for f**ks sake :lol:
the first one is a clown the second just talks about 'cool' stuff
they're both designed to indoctrinate kids as thats about the level of their teaching expertise damn you have high standards, Neil degrasse Tyson only works at the Hayden planetarium at the museum of natural history and has a PHD in astrophysics. Bill Nye was only a mechanical engineer at Boeing. Nonetheless they are both some of the biggest scientific voices to the public hence I'm sure they want to remain credible and not sell out to money interests.
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Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson for f**ks sake :lol:
the first one is a clown the second just talks about 'cool' stuff
they're both designed to indoctrinate kids as thats about the level of their teaching expertise
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leftrightout wrote:This is what people overlook. Climate change will happen regardless of anything. Look no further than the Ice Age and it's pretty clear things have warmed up since than. Nature is a cunt. A Prime Minister?
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tbitm wrote:Al gore didn't do the research for his film though, all he did as present the evidence he had to raise awareness.
He did make decent coin from this of course, but I don't know what the overwhelming majority of the scientific community will get out of this.
[size=7]What does Neil deGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye[/size] get out of endorsing this? [size=7]They have very high reputations in the scientific community[/size] and I doubt they'd give this up over money they already have.
And compared to the fossil fuel industry who have a huge incentive to keep everyone int he dark, it isn't even close which side has more of an incentive to make money. :lol: lol no they dont they get a lot of coin for their shillage too the fossil fuel industry are actually profiteering out of it. the oil and gas industry that is, as they have all the power. their competitor coal is out in the cold look at how the taxes are structured, they are to the benefit of the oil and gas industry and coal is eliminated from the marketplace as non competitive
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Al gore didn't do the research for his film though, all he did as present the evidence he had to raise awareness.
He did make decent coin from this of course, but I don't know what the overwhelming majority of the scientific community will get out of this.
What does Neil deGrasse Tyson or Bill Nye get out of endorsing this? They have very high reputations in the scientific community and I doubt they'd give this up over money they already have.
And compared to the fossil fuel industry who have a huge incentive to keep everyone int he dark, it isn't even close which side has more of an incentive to make money.
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tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:you dont even know who he is
i doubt you know who John Cook is either, but let me tell you, he's nothing more than a dopey web developer who calls himself a scientist
i've actually researched this 97% thing myself and concluded the actual amount of the sample of 'scientists'...and let me tell you it is a sample that voted for man made climate change... is actually far less than 97%.
that's just from deconstructing the questionnaire responses that were linked in the wiki article..was around 50% from memory and didnt take into account the number of scientists who actually didnt answer the question but were assumed to be in agreement because, wait for it,
they werent in disagreement
its pointless though explaining to you new age nutters. you're completely indoctrinated and lack the ability to accept something that contradicts everything you've ever been indoctrinated with via the mass media, Al Gore films, sloppy BBC docos as well as funded alarmists in universities
science doesnt even come into it anymore great talking points, it's easy to say you've won when you reduce your opponents to a caricature of what you believe they are. Haven't seen An Inconvenient truth for about 8 years when I was 13, don't think I remember much of it. Don't watch BBC docos or mainstream media (which is actually pretty 50/50 on the issue) Edited by tbitm: 19/5/2014 05:19:11 PM um that's pretty much what you alarmists do every time your pseudo science trickery is exposed you label the rest of us right wing nutjobs.. religious nutters, tin foil, paranoid etc etc then you align us with anti medicine, anti science, going back to the 1950's etc etc obviously the timing of your indoctrination was young. an inconvenient truth at 13. its difficult to rollback that kind of programming. Edited by ricecrackers: 19/5/2014 06:04:33 PM But not believing scientists is anti science... And you seem to think there's some sort of hidden agenda behind the scientists to trick people into believing in something that doesn't exist. Of course that's just projection, the only scientists that don't believe in climate change are the ones funded by big oil companies and people that actually do have a reason to spread the mis information that climate change doesn't exist. Yes, believing the scientists on face value is indoctrination (though doing so is a pretty safe bet in most cases) but I don't think anyone here hasn't done their own research. We are on the internet, it's pretty easy to find what you want, then it just comes down to if you trust your sources, which I do. mate, there's scientists and there's scientists they're not all truthsayers and soothsayers money plays a big part in all of this. that's the real world at work. Al Gore is no kind of scientist either. He got a 'D' in Roger Revelle's class.
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ricecrackers wrote:tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:you dont even know who he is
i doubt you know who John Cook is either, but let me tell you, he's nothing more than a dopey web developer who calls himself a scientist
i've actually researched this 97% thing myself and concluded the actual amount of the sample of 'scientists'...and let me tell you it is a sample that voted for man made climate change... is actually far less than 97%.
that's just from deconstructing the questionnaire responses that were linked in the wiki article..was around 50% from memory and didnt take into account the number of scientists who actually didnt answer the question but were assumed to be in agreement because, wait for it,
they werent in disagreement
its pointless though explaining to you new age nutters. you're completely indoctrinated and lack the ability to accept something that contradicts everything you've ever been indoctrinated with via the mass media, Al Gore films, sloppy BBC docos as well as funded alarmists in universities
science doesnt even come into it anymore great talking points, it's easy to say you've won when you reduce your opponents to a caricature of what you believe they are. Haven't seen An Inconvenient truth for about 8 years when I was 13, don't think I remember much of it. Don't watch BBC docos or mainstream media (which is actually pretty 50/50 on the issue) Edited by tbitm: 19/5/2014 05:19:11 PM um that's pretty much what you alarmists do every time your pseudo science trickery is exposed you label the rest of us right wing nutjobs.. religious nutters, tin foil, paranoid etc etc then you align us with anti medicine, anti science, going back to the 1950's etc etc obviously the timing of your indoctrination was young. an inconvenient truth at 13. its difficult to rollback that kind of programming. Edited by ricecrackers: 19/5/2014 06:04:33 PM But not believing scientists is anti science... And you seem to think there's some sort of hidden agenda behind the scientists to trick people into believing in something that doesn't exist. That's pretty tin foil Of course that's just projection, the only scientists that don't believe in climate change are the ones funded by big oil companies and people that actually do have a reason to spread the mis information that climate change doesn't exist. Yes, believing the scientists on face value is indoctrination (though doing so is a pretty safe bet in most cases) but I don't think anyone here hasn't done their own research. We are on the internet, it's pretty easy to find what you want, then it just comes down to if you trust your sources, which I do. Edited by tbitm: 19/5/2014 06:38:58 PM
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u4486662 wrote:Can people stop saying that the Earth hasn't warmed since 1989?
This is completely and utterly wrong.
[size=7]It has warmed dramatically[/size]. Even people that deny climate change is caused by humans, acknowledge that the Earth is warming. They just say other factors are at hand, rather than CO2 emissions alone. thats just poppycock 1 degree in 100 years is nothing dramatic
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tbitm wrote:ricecrackers wrote:you dont even know who he is
i doubt you know who John Cook is either, but let me tell you, he's nothing more than a dopey web developer who calls himself a scientist
i've actually researched this 97% thing myself and concluded the actual amount of the sample of 'scientists'...and let me tell you it is a sample that voted for man made climate change... is actually far less than 97%.
that's just from deconstructing the questionnaire responses that were linked in the wiki article..was around 50% from memory and didnt take into account the number of scientists who actually didnt answer the question but were assumed to be in agreement because, wait for it,
they werent in disagreement
its pointless though explaining to you new age nutters. you're completely indoctrinated and lack the ability to accept something that contradicts everything you've ever been indoctrinated with via the mass media, Al Gore films, sloppy BBC docos as well as funded alarmists in universities
science doesnt even come into it anymore great talking points, it's easy to say you've won when you reduce your opponents to a caricature of what you believe they are. Haven't seen An Inconvenient truth for about 8 years when I was 13, don't think I remember much of it. Don't watch BBC docos or mainstream media (which is actually pretty 50/50 on the issue) Edited by tbitm: 19/5/2014 05:19:11 PM um that's pretty much what you alarmists do every time your pseudo science trickery is exposed you label the rest of us right wing nutjobs.. religious nutters, tin foil, paranoid etc etc then you align us with anti medicine, anti science, going back to the 1950's etc etc obviously the timing of your indoctrination was young. an inconvenient truth at 13. its difficult to rollback that kind of programming. Edited by ricecrackers: 19/5/2014 06:04:33 PM
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leftrightout wrote:tbitm wrote:Roar #1 wrote:leftrightout wrote:This is what people overlook. Climate change will happen regardless of anything. Look no further than the Ice Age and it's pretty clear things have warmed up since than. Nature is a cunt. How do we know there was an ice age? It's just Disney propaganda to sell movie tickets. notice how ice age 2 "the meltdown" came out the same year as an inconvenient truth? I smell a slimy left wing conspiracy. :lol: I'm not sure if you're serious about their not being an Ice Age or not but the movie Ice Age was clearly not Disney! omg sorry, im not an expert in animated films :lol: And I just dont believe the science that says there was an Ice Age, the way I see it there is no proof what so ever.:-"
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Can people stop saying that the Earth hasn't warmed since 1989?
This is completely and utterly wrong.
It has warmed dramatically. Even people that deny climate change is caused by humans, acknowledge that the Earth is warming. They just say other factors are at hand, rather than CO2 emissions alone.
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tbitm wrote:Roar #1 wrote:leftrightout wrote:This is what people overlook. Climate change will happen regardless of anything. Look no further than the Ice Age and it's pretty clear things have warmed up since than. Nature is a cunt. How do we know there was an ice age? It's just Disney propaganda to sell movie tickets. notice how ice age 2 "the meltdown" came out the same year as an inconvenient truth? I smell a slimy left wing conspiracy. :lol: I'm not sure if you're serious about their not being an Ice Age or not but the movie Ice Age was clearly not Disney!
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Up until now I haven't seen any suggestion that this thread is solely for the discussion of carbon induced climate change.
You can't dismiss smog from the global warming debate. NO2 breaks down in the sunlight and then reacts with oxygen to create ozone, a major greenhouse gas.
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Roar #1 wrote:leftrightout wrote:This is what people overlook. Climate change will happen regardless of anything. Look no further than the Ice Age and it's pretty clear things have warmed up since than. Nature is a cunt. How do we know there was an ice age? It's just Disney propaganda to sell movie tickets. notice how ice age 2 "the meltdown" came out the same year as an inconvenient truth? I smell a slimy left wing conspiracy.
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leftrightout wrote:This is what people overlook. Climate change will happen regardless of anything. Look no further than the Ice Age and it's pretty clear things have warmed up since than. Nature is a cunt. How do we know there was an ice age? It's just Disney propaganda to sell movie tickets.
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ricecrackers wrote:you dont even know who he is
i doubt you know who John Cook is either, but let me tell you, he's nothing more than a dopey web developer who calls himself a scientist
i've actually researched this 97% thing myself and concluded the actual amount of the sample of 'scientists'...and let me tell you it is a sample that voted for man made climate change... is actually far less than 97%.
that's just from deconstructing the questionnaire responses that were linked in the wiki article..was around 50% from memory and didnt take into account the number of scientists who actually didnt answer the question but were assumed to be in agreement because, wait for it,
they werent in disagreement
its pointless though explaining to you new age nutters. you're completely indoctrinated and lack the ability to accept something that contradicts everything you've ever been indoctrinated with via the mass media, Al Gore films, sloppy BBC docos as well as funded alarmists in universities
science doesnt even come into it anymore great talking points, it's easy to say you've won when you reduce your opponents to a caricature of what you believe they are. Haven't seen An Inconvenient truth for about 8 years when I was 13, don't think I remember much of it. Don't watch BBC docos or mainstream media (which is actually pretty 50/50 on the issue) Edited by tbitm: 19/5/2014 05:19:11 PM
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This is what people overlook. Climate change will happen regardless of anything. Look no further than the Ice Age and it's pretty clear things have warmed up since than. Nature is a cunt.
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pretty sure this thread is about carbon induced climate change as thats what they're taxing, not smog pollution which is an entirely separate topic and doesnt result in global warming or rising sea levels
i'm all for reducing smog and most advanced nations have achieved that without a global tax
you're muddying the waters now
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Who said carbon is the only thing that is driving climate change?
Edited by chillbilly: 19/5/2014 05:03:17 PM
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