i read your post and i see a whole lot of personal attacks/insults and not a bit of reasoning
did you miss the entire point that science is not a vote? it seems you did

your links mean nothing, they're merely well funded propaganda sites specifically set up to promote the climate change scare with the usual suspects on board. there is no science in your position or argument.

these frauds posit themselves as victims when in fact they're raking in billions collectively from government funding and NGO investments.

So again you refuse to answer the simple question above which speaks volumes for your position.

Because I don't have days to waste I won't go into detail regarding that video but I will point out 1 of a dozen factual or debunked points of that video. The bit where old mate talks about 9000 PHD's and 30 000 scientists that refute climate change?

Perhaps these 2 links may explain why this video has, like yourself, no credibility.

http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/1654
http://www.skepticalscience.com/scrutinising-31000-scientists-in-the-OISM-Petition-Project.html

But then again, scientists are writing these articles and they're all in on the scam right? RIGHT!

It's funny how you blokes deny the science and yet use the science to help back your position.

Look, they say you shouldn't argue with a fool as others may not be able to tell the difference so I'll choof off now.

Maybe I'll post later if you deem yourself worthy enough to answer the question above but we'll see. (Personally I'm betting you don't have the self-examination skills to see that vested interests are far better off maintaining the status quo than doing anything about it.)

if thats all you got from it then i doubt you were paying attention
i explained it in the space thread, i've already told you

if your comprehension skills are better than your listening skills then you might pick up on afrodopeGT owning himself by posting a link to an oil&gas company promoting the climate change scare. (psst: he didnt know they were an oil&gas company as he was grasping for something to support his failing argument )

Care to explain why?

I'm an engineer so I'd class myself as pretty cluey but if I went to a doctor and he said I may have cancer, and it was confirmed by 2 or 3 others, I definitely wouldn't shop around to find a doctor that told me that I'm OK and those doctors that told you that you have cancer are all part of giant conspiracy to enslave the worlds population by big pharma and you'd be best to do nothing.

Give me a break. As an intellectual exercise it'd be interesting to see how the CFC brigade would have acted these days had the ozone degradation be discovered now in the age of the internet. Fortunately back in the day scientists came to a consensus, recommended action and something was done.

Given the vast amount of outright lies and debunked arguments floating about by shrills in the pay of fossil fuel merchants its doubtful that that situation would have been repeated today.

"There's no clear consensus."
"Ozone is natural"
"it's good for the planet"
"it's all rubbish by scientists who want to live in Toorak or Double Bay and drive Ferraris and Lamborghinis around the place"
"blah blah"

Edited by munrubenmuz: 23/3/2014 01:45:31 PM

This is silly.

I watched the video. Hilarious stuff. World government woooooo!! All due to a shafted scientist back in the day.

The question you need to answer, and I'm happy to wait, is who has the most to gain from maintaining the status quo?

go back and read the space thread, then watch the video i posted. then get back to me.
i'm not going to repeat old ground.

If you say so.

Ask yourself this simple question; Who has the most to gain from maintaining the status quo? Who?

Scientists (on their massive $60k per annum salaries working for the CSIRO or other government agencies) or oil, gas & mining giants whose net wealth is larger than most countries GDP's?

What is in it for thousands of professionals across dozens of fields to perpetuate this great "lie" you speak of?

What is in it for them? The laughable precept that scientists are in it for grant money is the biggest joke put forward by the deniers. I can't remember the last time I saw a scientist driving a Ferrari. The whole concept is patently ridiculous and absurd.

Apparently some huge, vast conspiracy exists across dozens of disciplines, fields of science, countries, independent bodies et al to enslave the Western World in some sort of Socialist Utopian fantasy.

What a laugh.

what a ridiculous non sequitur

97 doctors say you have cancer, 3 say you don't. Act or don't act?

You can have your own opinions but you can't have you own facts.

Climate change thread: fact or fiction?

I am posting in it so I'm going to go with fact. The climate change thread does exist

Indirectly.
The RBB invented Obama, and then Obama invented climate change.

#Rbbinventions ?

#thingsObamainvented

Fiction.

how the global warming movement began
an interesting presentation and history lesson of the past 50 years or so.

36 minutes, recommended viewing.

[youtube]7P5RW0Tmp-U[/youtube]

Neil de Grasse Tyson is an idiot

For all your debates on the topic.

Lets keep the Space is cool thread free from climate change talk.

Post it here instead.



Human induced climate change: fact or fiction?

Discuss………….

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