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Hi guys.
What's the meaning of life?
This thread is for serious philosophical discussion only. Please leave your derailments in another thread.
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FulofGladbach
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The Meaning of Life? 42.
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notorganic
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I've been reading a lot of modern philosophy lately, particularly what has been coined "the red pill".
Basically embracing the biological imperative of man and accepting the inherent differences between men and women. I have always been an egalitarian, but have come to understand that equal opportunity does not mandate equal outcome.
By implementing some of the core tenants of the philosophy I have improved just about every facet of my life. Work is more fulfilling, family life is much better and my sex life has never been this good.
There's an excellent subreddit at /r/theredpill.
Has anyone else come across TRP and used it to have a significant positive impact on their life?
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macktheknife
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http://www.returnofkings.com is another site that delves into that modern male philosophy/red pill stuff. Some of it is crap, but a lot of it is useful. Take it with much salt. As for Philosophy, I'm starting to look into the 'stoic' philosophy. It should be an interesting journey. I need a more balanced and grounded view of life, with better control over my thoughts.
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notorganic
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The rational male.com is another good one.
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humbert
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What is this 'redpill'?
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u4486662
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Stanley Kubrick was the last great modern philosopher.
You guys should watch room 237
[youtube]qi0IjGC0K0w[/youtube]
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DinosMum
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notorganic wrote:I've been reading a lot of modern philosophy lately, particularly what has been coined "the red pill".
Basically embracing the biological imperative of man and accepting the inherent differences between men and women. I have always been an egalitarian, but have come to understand that equal opportunity does not mandate equal outcome.
By implementing some of the core tenants of the philosophy I have improved just about every facet of my life. Work is more fulfilling, family life is much better and my sex life has never been this good.
There's an excellent subreddit at /r/theredpill.
Has anyone else come across TRP and used it to have a significant positive impact on their life? Im glad you found something positive from the Red Piller's. Most people come out the other side a misogynistic prick. Some of their advice is flaky at best but if you pick and choose the different doctrines you can come up with something that adds value to your life. Unfortunately the majority of guys in there are a bunch of neck beards trying to upgrade to 'alphas' and will simply never make the cut
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ricecrackers
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macktheknife wrote:http://www.returnofkings.com is another site that delves into that modern male philosophy/red pill stuff. Some of it is crap, but a lot of it is useful. Take it with much salt.
As for Philosophy, I'm starting to look into the 'stoic' philosophy. It should be an interesting journey. I need a more balanced and grounded view of life, with better control over my thoughts.
why would you want control over your thoughts?
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The Red Pill is an absolute embarrassment.
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notorganic
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Draupnir wrote:The Red Pill is an absolute embarrassment. As stated in OP, this is a serious discussion thread. If you're going to call something out, show your reasoning.
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afromanGT
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notorganic wrote:Draupnir wrote:The Red Pill is an absolute embarrassment. As stated in OP, this is a serious discussion thread. If you're going to call something out, show your reasoning. I was browsing their web page and there's an article on there by a bloke named Chris Delamo. I assume that since he's posting articles on the home page he's a major spokes person for the doctrine. the article wrote:I tweeted out to Cara the following: “@CaraSantaMaria claims to be an empiricist, yet relies on hearsay from studies she didn’t conduct as foundation of her knowledge.”
The rationale behind the tweet was to show that, although Cara claims to be an advocate of science and empiricism, she is willing to BYPASS scientific empiricism by believing in the results of studies she did not personally conduct, on the basis of faith and hearsay alone. So basically he contends that in order to use a computer you must replicate all experiments of Nicolas Tesla (among others'). That's completely nonsensical. Edited by afromanGT: 17/4/2014 08:06:27 PM
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notorganic
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afromanGT wrote:notorganic wrote:Draupnir wrote:The Red Pill is an absolute embarrassment. As stated in OP, this is a serious discussion thread. If you're going to call something out, show your reasoning. I was browsing their web page and there's an article on there by a bloke named Chris Delamo. I assume that since he's posting articles on the home page he's a major spokes person for the doctrine. the article wrote:I tweeted out to Cara the following: “@CaraSantaMaria claims to be an empiricist, yet relies on hearsay from studies she didn’t conduct as foundation of her knowledge.”
The rationale behind the tweet was to show that, although Cara claims to be an advocate of science and empiricism, she is willing to BYPASS scientific empiricism by believing in the results of studies she did not personally conduct, on the basis of faith and hearsay alone. So basically he contends that in order to use a computer you must replicate all experiments of Nicolas Tesla (among others'). That's completely nonsensical. Edited by afromanGT: 17/4/2014 08:06:27 PM Link to page and article so I can see it in the intended context rather than cherry picked quotes.
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ricecrackers
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I dont know anything about "The Red Pill" but i support your open minded attempt to find meaning "notorganic".
discussion about particular tenets of this movement or any others would be more interesting than glib character assassination attempts by those who wish to quell thoughts about anything that doesnt sit in their comfort zone
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afromanGT
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notorganic wrote:Link to page and article so I can see it in the intended context rather than cherry picked quotes. http://redpillphilosophy.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/skeptics-arent-really-skeptics/
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DinosMum
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Draupnir wrote:The Red Pill is an absolute embarrassment. I lurk there a lot but never post. To be fair there have been a few horseshit threads bit for the main part it gives an alternative to the overly feminised culture that young men have forced upon them.
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Always preferred Eastern philosophy over Western philosophy, but I think learning both is crucial as they are culturally relativised attempts at understanding the same environment
He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.
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Wonderful stuff. Notor has realised men and women are different and Mack has discovered he is unbalanced.
Did you know a university in the US conducted a study and eventually concluded (after long research) that the elephant is a descendant of the mammoth? True story.
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humbert
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Had a quick squiz at red pill. Seems the usual pseudo-spiritual, self-affirming psychobabble that excites those looking for 'something deeper'. Just found out about this male support subculture; 'alphas', 'betas', 'omegas', etc etc. Looks to be composed entirely of gentlemen who can't get laid, and are bitter as a result.
Re. philosophy; find David Hume incredibly insightful.
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afromanGT
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humbert wrote:Just found out about this male support subculture; 'alphas', 'betas', 'omegas', etc etc. Looks to be composed entirely of gentlemen who can't get laid, and are bitter as a result. :lol:
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notorganic
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It always interesting to see people's reactions the first time they hear about TRP.
I reacted much the same way that Humbert did the first time I looked at the subreddit.
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he's def not an alpha
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humbert
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notorganic wrote:It always interesting to see people's reactions the first time they hear about TRP.
I reacted much the same way that Humbert did the first time I looked at the subreddit. What's changed?
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humbert
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ricecrackers wrote:he's def not an alpha The answer to the question no one asked.
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notorganic
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humbert wrote:notorganic wrote:It always interesting to see people's reactions the first time they hear about TRP.
I reacted much the same way that Humbert did the first time I looked at the subreddit. What's changed? I realised that I was wrong. It's not misogynistic or bitter to embrace reality.
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humbert
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notorganic wrote:humbert wrote:notorganic wrote:It always interesting to see people's reactions the first time they hear about TRP.
I reacted much the same way that Humbert did the first time I looked at the subreddit. What's changed? I realised that I was wrong. It's not misogynistic or bitter to embrace reality. Might you explain what you mean?
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Neanderthal
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The whole red pill thing sounds like it has some great values that it champions. But at the same time it does sound a little bit desperate to be special and "in the know". To my limited reading it also sounded like the culture is a little overly pessimistic and negative about alot of things. Also some of it's claims, like the inherent differences between male and female are not backed up by anything credible.
Why not just skip all of that and go straight to modern psychology? Cognitive behavioural psychology can tell you generally what kind of thinking, behaviour and values make a happy fulfilled individual. And it's generally backed up with evidence which makes it alot more worthwhile.
Edited by neanderthal: 20/4/2014 11:00:16 PM
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notorganic
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humbert wrote:notorganic wrote:humbert wrote:notorganic wrote:It always interesting to see people's reactions the first time they hear about TRP.
I reacted much the same way that Humbert did the first time I looked at the subreddit. What's changed? I realised that I was wrong. It's not misogynistic or bitter to embrace reality. Might you explain what you mean? http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/
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notorganic
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Neanderthal wrote:The whole red pill thing sounds like it has some great values that it champions. But at the same time it does sound a little bit desperate to be special and "in the know". To my limited reading it also sounded like the culture is a little overly pessimistic and negative about alot of things. Also some of it's claims, like the inherent differences between male and female are not backed up by anything credible.
Why not just skip all of that and go straight to modern psychology? Cognitive behavioural psychology can tell you generally what kind of thinking, behaviour and values make a happy fulfilled individual. And it's generally backed up with evidence which makes it alot more worthwhile.
Edited by neanderthal: 20/4/2014 11:00:16 PM I generally agree. The important thing to remember is that the subreddit is a discussion forum, not a dogmatic pulpit. Concepts are discussed, debated, rationalised etc. There is quite a lot of discussion revolving around various studies and evidence that back up some of the conclusions, but you are right that it is often thin on the ground.
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notorganic wrote:Hi guys.
What's the meaning of life?
This thread is for serious philosophical discussion only. Please leave your derailments in another thread. Does the question "What is the meaning of life" make sense? Will drinking more make this essay more interesting?
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