There would have been an a league team in Brisbane with or without Qld lions. And I fail to see how the history of Lions has had any affect on getting Roar to where they are today.

Really? As if there wouldn't have been a team based in Brisbane. If it wasn't lions someone else would have done it.

Hes not saying there would have been no A-league team in Bris without the Lions, just that the team that you do have has ties to them.

Like a son denying the existence of their father.

Sure they have ties, lions signed the paperwork. But that then Doesn't transfer their 60 year history into that of the Roar's.

Lions got the gig over Strikers due to the work the people involved put in over the 50 years prior. Their roots and stability obviously made them an attractive proposition to the newly formed FFA to hold the franchise licence for a top flight team.
If the Strikers got the gig, but changed owners and continued to play in blue/yellow you would have to say there is still a historical link there wouldn't you?........... surely

Sure but the history only dates back 10 years. What happened before the creation of the A league is irrelevant to the history of the Roar.

Fella, just accept the situation and move on. Personally, I am content that BR has links to the Lions. It provides a tangible history to the forming of Brisbane Roar (which is either good or bad, depending on your point of view) than having an entity be formed from nothing.

The league was formed out of nothing, why wouldn't the clubs be the same?

Roar #1, why are you so resistant to this point anyway?

Meh something to do :lol:

#NoEffnics

Anyway I just don't understand how a club that has only existed for 10 years in a league that has only existed for 10 years have a 60 year history.

No, the club that founded the Roar has 50 years of history.

Doubt the logo could change to something with Dutch roots due to the national club identity policy.

I'm not disputing that, but how can you create something completely new and say it's 60 years old?

Part of Lions history is that they helped launched Queensland Roar. The Roars history runs separate to that and starts 10 years ago.

I'll put it one more way-

If the AFL didn't merge Fitzroy Lions and Brisbane Bears and buy the name Brisbane Lions off the Lions club, forcing them to adopt the Queensland Lions monicker then 100% the Queensland Roar would've been called Brisbane Lions from the outset.
Marketing guy- ummm we can't use Lions so what can we do??? Lions roar don't they?
Other marketing guy- ooh that'll do and we can still use the lion on the badge since we're keeping our orange and blue kits too.

That's just cosmetic stuff. Still don't see how their history would link into that of the roars.

And it's amazing that of those, nobody (if any) that suggested dropping the buzz word and just keeping the lion image prominent on the emblem instead, was taken seriously.

Yep this. Qld Lions were actually able to fund their bid because the AFL bought the rights to the name "Brisbane Lions" off them for a hefty sum. The original lions Blue and Orange kit was just given a splash of maroon (horrid, horrid kit) and hey presto, our very own ethnically linked A-league team. :d

In 2014 it's all 'just cosmetic' - take away everything that's 'cosmetic' about a football club in today's context, what do you have left?

This guy gets it! :d

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At the very least does this not tell you that Lions saw their A-League franchise as the top level of their club? And only the technicality of their being a national sporting rival in the same city with the same monicker prevented using the same name
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if trolling, well played sir

I don't hate it. But probably needs a few white highlights - around the letters in 'Brisbane', around the border.

Thanks again - definitely a step away from cartoon land into the badge of a mature football club - without resorting to images from the middle ages.

...that's hideous.

After all this discussion I think Brisbane should just keep their damn lion head, there's nothing wrong with it. Maybe stick it in a badge if that tickles their fancy, but a complete redesign to be more dutch is bizarre at this point.

FAO "Roar #1"
You keep saying/arguing that "the Roar only have a history of 10 years, not 60 years (or words to that effect)." I'm not sure why you keep banging on at that point. I could be wrong, but I don't recall anyone actually claiming the Brisbane Roar having a history of 60 years.

Also, I think it may be an idea to calm down a wee bit and not take everyone so serious regarding this topic :)

This.

The apparent love for heraldic lions is amazing. I can't see how marketing the club/game as ancient and European is looking to the future?

Or we could just inter-twine the letters 'B' and 'R', eh?

-PB

Some very precious petals on here haha. God i hope the club comes out with an Orange lion rampant holding a dutch flag on a bicycle eating some fine gouda cheese with a windmill in the background.

^ that's the best one I've seen so far