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12 June 2014 17:00
Brazil v Croatia
Arena de São Paulo, São Paulo
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Edited by Joffa: 11/5/2014 08:23:05 PM
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Joffa
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Tough game for Croatia...
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Brazil beat them 1:0 in 2006. Ok, comparing is something we do a lot and this is a different tournament but I think Croatia are strong enough to make Brazil work for it. Olic is old but in form and likes to ruin a party.mandzukic suspended but Perisic and Modric also very good players.Will be a fun opener.
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Rakitic will miss a great chance in the 86th minute with the score at 0-0, Brazil will go on to win 3-0
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Temporary stands for W/Cup opener After inspecting the Itaquerao stadium, authorities said it would be safe to use the stands during the high-profile match between Brazil and Croatia on Thursday. The stands behind one of the goals were not approved for the final test event at the stadium last week because of safety concerns. The installation of the temporary seats was delayed mostly because of an accident earlier this year. Thursday is the first time the Itaquerao will have a capacity crowd. Football's governing body Fifa initially said the stadium would hold 68,000 next week, but it put only about 61,000 tickets on sale for the match because many places will be used by journalists and to accommodate cameras needed to broadcast the match. Fifa denied the decrease in capacity was caused by delays in stadium construction, saying it had to make adjustments to the number of tickets sold for the match because more than 1,500 journalists would be present. It also said changes had to be made after the location of 34 television cameras needed for the match was established. "The size of the Arena de Sao Paulo was not reduced, as many people are reporting," Fifa said. "As in any operation for the World Cup, the stadium's total capacity is adjusted according to the needs of the media and the television broadcast." The Itaquerao has been one of the most problematic stadiums for the World Cup. Late last year, a crane hoisting a giant roofing structure into place collapsed, killing two workers and causing significant delays. Builders have already said that the stadium's roof will not be fully completed until after the World Cup. Fifa secretary general Jerome Valcke said it was normal to see a lot of work still being done outside the Itaquerao, especially because it was completed late. One of the reasons the Brazilian football federation refused to use Sao Paulo's already-built Morumbi Stadium for the World Cup was because it claimed it would not be able to hold more than 65,000 people for the opener as required by Fifa. But Brazil played Serbia in its final warm-up match before the World Cup at the Morumbi yesterday, with nearly 70,000 people in attendance. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/temporary-stands-for-wcup-opener-30336224.html
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World Cup opener: Only 25,000 tickets go to fans Fifa reveals how seats for Brazil-Croatia match in Sao Paulo have been allocated APPublished: 15:00 June 9, 2014Gulf News Sao Paulo: Fifa says less than half of the tickets available for the opening match of the World Cup next week went directly to the general public, with most being reserved for commercial partners, broadcasters, local organisers and hospitality programmes. Fifa said on Sunday that of the 61,600 tickets available for the Brazil-Croatia match on Thursday in Sao Paulo, only 25,636 were sold to the general public. About 10,000 additional tickets are going to fans through promotional activities. Football’s governing body said more than 1,500 tickets were reserved for VIPs, and about the same number are going to journalists. More than 13,700 tickets went to hospitality programmes, and 12,600 to commercial affiliates and broadcasters, who are expected to give away 85 per cent of their share to fans and partners. Local organisers and the football community, including association members, received 6,600 tickets. Fifa initially said the Itaquerao stadium in Sao Paulo would hold 68,000 people in the high-profile inaugural match, but the capacity was adjusted because of the seats reserved for journalists and to accommodate the 34 cameras needed to broadcast the match. Fifa denied that the decrease in capacity was caused by delays in construction at the Itaquerao. The stadium has been one of the most problematic in the run-up to the World Cup, prompting a series of concerns from Fifa. Late last year, a crane hoisting a giant roofing structure into place collapsed, killing two workers and causing significant delays. Constructors have already said that the stadium’s roof will not be fully completed for the tournament. Fifa is also worried about the recent wave of strikes in Sao Paulo, especially by operators of the subway line that will takes fans and journalists to the Itaquerao. “Fifa and the local organising committee rely on the urban mobility plans presented by host city Sao Paulo, which include not only the usual means of transportation but also contingency plans in case of one of the modals is unavailable or partially working,” football’s governing body said. The strike by subway operators created havoc in the city’s traffic last week, nearly halting South America’s biggest city. “What Fifa and the LOC always stress is the importance of fans to plan their way to the stadium and leave early for the match,” Fifa said. On Saturday, Fifa said that 1,376 people will have to change their tickets because they were handed out before work at the stadiums was completed. It said seating configurations changed after technical teams established exactly where the media tribunes and broadcast equipment had to be placed in each of the 12 venues. A total of about 3.3 million tickets will be sold for the first World Cup in Brazil since 1950. More than 2.5 million tickets had already been allocated, including through the hospitality programmes. http://gulfnews.com/sport/football/brazil-2014/world-cup-opener-only-25-000-tickets-go-to-fans-1.1344921
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Should be a good opener i'd probably say a draw would be a good result for Croatia but anything less then a win for Brazil will really amp up the pressure on the south Americans. Im tipping a 1-all-draw Edited by Davstar: 9/6/2014 10:15:47 PM
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Dani Alves says Brazil intent on ‘sending out a message’ in World Cup opener Agence France-Presse June 11, 2014 Updated: June 11, 2014 11:53:00 Brazil are desperate to make a powerful statement of intent in Thursday’s World Cup opener against Croatia as they seek to relieve the suffocating pressure that has engulfed the team in the build-up to the tournament. Coach Luiz Felipe Scolari has the luxury of being able to field the same team that destroyed world champions Spain 3-0 in the final of last year’s Confederations Cup, with Barcelona star Neymar the focal point of a powerful and settled line-up. The five-time champions are expected to qualify from their group without too much trouble but Barcelona defender Dani Alves admitted there was anxiety ahead of the Sao Paulo opener, as they seek to ease the jitters. “I have always said that if you don’t feel anxiety it is not worth being a professional athlete. The opening game is difficult, important,” said Alves. “The three points count but so does the idea of sending out a message to our rivals. The most important game at the World Cup, for everyone, is the opening game.” He added: “We will only know on Thursday if everything is OK. We are very confident and we want this moment to come. We want to enjoy the World Cup. We are going to try to give a good image.” The only question mark for tournament favourites Brazil for the match at the new Arena Corinthians would appear to be over the out-of-sorts Oscar, with his impressive Chelsea teammate Willian pushing for a starting berth. But Scolari, who masterminded Brazil’s last World Cup win in 2002, is likely to stick with his tried-and-tested winning formula against 18th-ranked Croatia after the same 11 edged past Serbia 1-0 in a friendly last week, courtesy of a goal from Fred. Brazilian reserve striker Jo, speaking after training on Tuesday, said the mood in the camp was calm but the nerves would be jangling as kick-off approached. “At this moment, everyone is calm,” said the striker. “When we go to Sao Paulo and the game approaches, there will be excitement, anxiety. But the opening of the World Cup in our country will be different to others.” And squad member Bernard said it was crucial to start the tournament with a win as Brazil chase their first World Cup tournament win on home soil. “There are no easy games and the game against Serbia was very complicated,” said the winger. “They are quite a well-balanced side. I think the game against Croatia will be similar. It’s important to be focused on the opening game, we need to start off with three points.” Croatia will be missing Bayern Munich striker Mario Mandzukic because of a red card he picked up in a match against Iceland in November. But they also boast Real Madrid’s Luka Modric in their line-up, who said the key to the game would be the midfield battle, admitting the task of taking on Brazil in their own backyard was daunting. “Virtually every game is decided in the midfield. In most situations the winner is the team that has the better midfield,” said Modric. “I hope that we can show our qualities and can beat Brazil. But this will of course be very difficult.” And Modric, fresh from winning the Champions League with Real Madrid, highlighted the danger of Neymar, hailed by many as the key man for Brazil. “Neymar did not have the best of season with Barcelona, but when he plays for Brazil, he is a completely different player,” said Modric. “But I believe that we will find a way to stop him.” The match will be played in the 61,600-capacity Arena Corinthians, which was delayed by accidents in which three workers were killed. Follow us on Twitter @SprtNationalUAE Read more: http://www.thenational.ae/sport/world-cup-2014/dani-alves-says-brazil-intent-on-sending-out-a-message-in-world-cup-opener#ixzz34JfufUkz
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FIFA World Cup Opener: Brazil Versus Croatia Preview June 11, 2014 woz1867 International, Soccer Brazil Versus Croatia – Arena de Sao Paulo, Sao Paulo – Thursday 12 June Kick-off 2100 BST No nation is more eager to see the football get underway than Brazil. The opening game sees the World Cup favourites take on Niko Kovac’s Croatia. The 42-year-old Kovac has selection worries up front, Mario Mandzukic is suspended due to his red card against Iceland in the playoffs. Ivica Olic may be preferred in the lone striker role supported by Sevilla’s Ivan Rakatic in a 4-4-1-1 formation. Croatia will need to keep their discipline especially of Brazil take an early lead during the game. Much is expected from Luka Modrić, is the Real Madrid really that good? This World Cup will give him the chance to demonstrate that. Expect Modric to collect the ball and link up the back for with the more advance players. The nephew of Brazil coach Luiz Felipe Scolari was killed in a car accident yesterday, a victory for Brazil will no doubt be dedicated to him. Brazil lined up with Fred, Hulk and Neymar in their last outing against Serbia. Brazilian fans will want to see plenty of goals and Scolari . One thing is for sure, Scolari will not take any chances and will start with his strongest XI on Thursday night. Expect a tentative start by the home nation, a little bit of magic might just settle the crowd and lift the Samba Boys. The game may see Wolfsburg team-mates Luiz Gustavo and Olic go head-to-head. Japan’s Yuichi Nishimura will referee the game, he will be assisted by compatriots Toru Sagara and Toshiyuki Nagi. Iran’s Alireza Faghani will be the fourth official. Head-to-head Brazil has won one and drawn one in two previous encounters with Croatia. Weather forecast High’s of 24 degrees centigrade are predicted for the opening game. http://thesportsbreakfast.co.uk/fifa-world-cup-opener-brazil-versus-croatia-preview/
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I thought temporary stands weren't allowed for the World Cup?
Brazil to win 1-0 with a late goal.
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Brazil best be aware of opening day shocks 12:30 PM Thursday Jun 12, 2014 As it gears up to open the World Cup against Croatia in Sao Paulo, Brazil could do worse than look back in the history books to avoid any complacency. Over the years, the World Cup has seen its fair share of shock results in the opener, which until 2006 usually involved the defending champion, not the host as is now the norm. The most famous surprises occurred in Italy in 1990 and in South Korea in 2002. In the former, a downward header from Francois Omam-Biyik was enough for Cameroon to defeat defending champion Argentina 1-0 in Milan in a game that was also notable for the sending off of two Cameroonians. Twelve years later, France, many people's favorite to retain the title, lost by the same scoreline to Senegal in Seoul after a goal by Papa Bouba Diop. Defeat in the opening game doesn't necessarily mean all hope is lost. Though France was eliminated in the group stage in 2002 without scoring a goal, Argentina somehow managed to scrape through to the final in 1990. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/fifa-world-cup/news/article.cfm?c_id=524&objectid=11272709
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Gonna go with 1-1....
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So the corny opening ceremony has started....
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im awake, let the insanity begin. a marathon of lack of sleep and at times some excessive alcohol consumption.
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I thought Ned wasn't part of the SBS broadcast team for the World Cup?
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i thought the game would start now, I could of slept in a bit more.:(
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Eastern Glory wrote:I thought Ned wasn't part of the SBS broadcast team for the World Cup? For me, it's great, technically world class, individual brilliance, and for me, I'm just happy he's there
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The FoxSport team can be awful at times, but these three, FMD. It's going to be a long world cup.
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Is Boreshir commentating?
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c'mon croatia! id love a big upset on day 1
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Eastern Glory wrote:I thought Ned wasn't part of the SBS broadcast team for the World Cup? i wish he wasnt all pressure on Brazil which i think will help Croatia
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Holy fuck David Luiz and that anthem hahahahah. -PB
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GO CROATIA !! #NOFEAR
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At least Martin Tyler isn't bad, such an iconic voice.
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the top part of the stadium looks empty, i thought this would easily sell out.
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So glad it's here! Just want to see a cracking game. Pumped for tomorrow and the Roos!
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ohh what a chance.
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Close there. This is exactly how Australia have to start against Chile and go for it.
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yeahhhh 1 nil
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OOMFFFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG -PB
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Wow. what were the betting odds on an own goal as the first?
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OMFG what a start.
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HOLD ON CROATIA! THE BRAZILIAN TEARS IF THEY LOSE WILL BE DELICIOUS.
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i think the commentary track is a little bit ahead of the game.
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Jesus.
Croatia looked very good so far. Very hungry. Will be lots of fouls though
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libertarian
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switters wrote:i think the commentary track is a little bit ahead of the game. Brother and I thought the same thing. By quite a bit too.
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libertarian wrote:switters wrote:i think the commentary track is a little bit ahead of the game. Brother and I thought the same thing. By quite a bit too. Yep same here just a tad
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Great hit, great save.
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what a relief for croatia
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Yeah looks to just be commentary. -PB
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1-1 great goal
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Brazil with a sigh of relief haha. -PB
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Croatian coach Niko Kovač looks like a movie villain.
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libertarian wrote:Croatian coach Niko Kovač looks like a movie villain. Him and Diego Simeone are part of the same Mafia. -PB
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WTF Olic :lol:
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lol olic, nows not the time for a skills session.
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My boy Olic
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The 4th official's sign looks ridiculous.
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Lol.
Schwarzer selling out with the TAB.
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F*** Olic been playing to much FIFA 14 using the trick stick!
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SBS HD some much more awesome then the crappy streams I've had all season.
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Haha Olic's Roulette looked like it was in slow motion, straight into the path of Neymar.
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u4486662 wrote:SBS HD some much more awesome then the crappy streams I've had all season. Well they finally have 2mbps on their streams now. Bout farken time. -PB
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u4486662 wrote:Lol.
Schwarzer selling out with the TAB. TAB selling out with the Brazil factor too lol. -PB
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$200
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Thank you SBS for not blocking oversea viewers. =d>
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Man sbs have no intention of mainstreaming football. Look at these 3. It's like watching 3 old wogs gaff round a cavapi stand.
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There must only be three portaloos out back somewhere, half the crowd still out to take a leak.
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paulbagzFC wrote:u4486662 wrote:Lol.
Schwarzer selling out with the TAB. TAB selling out with the Brazil factor too lol. -PB Major sellout in my eyes. I have all the time in the world for Schwarzer, but he's lost me a little here.
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Coverdale wrote:Man sbs have no intention of mainstreaming football. Look at these 3. It's like watching 3 old wogs gaff round a cavapi stand. Lol. Three Croat-Australians seems a bit much. Zelic is the only one that should be there in any case.
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Martin Tyler, music to my ears...
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Croatia have Brazil figured out, these constant fouls stop them from stringing anything reasonable together. -PB
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Coverdale wrote:Man sbs have no intention of mainstreaming football. Look at these 3. It's like watching 3 old wogs gaff round a cavapi stand. Fucking lol. Better go find some pwoppa Aussie lads to get stuck in to that analysis. -PB
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Don't mind this spray on the grass for the wall at all.
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woah penalty
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bad decision
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Bullshit!
But finally Fred has done something I guess
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Bloody hell. Never a pen.
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ahhh geez nearly saved
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Terrible terrible call. In saying that, can't put a hand on the shoulder of a Brazillian when in the box and not expect them to go down like a sack of spuds :lol: P.S. Neymar almost fucked that :lol: -PB
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Good refereeing so far then that.
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Look at these idiots thanking god for a penalty that never was.
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That's BS!! No penalty at all!! fuckking fifa!!
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johnszasz wrote:Good refereeing so far then that. Yeah I thought he has done well so far, but that's a shocking call. Live I thought it may have been a pen, the way he fell looked like a pull from behind, but there's nothing in that at all.
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Brasil can't loose. Refs and fifa won't allow it.
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Caught in two minds, it was never enough to bring him down but you just can't be stupid enough to give Brazilian in the box a chance to do that.
Hoping for Croatia to get two miracle goals and the locals to burn the whole country down, only then will Australia save itself from annihilation.
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weak c**t of a ref, steals the win for brazil
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I feel like that wasn't just a home town decision but a "big team" decision. Seems to me in the World Cup that these teams get favouritism whether it's intentional or not. Reckon Honduras or Nigeria would get the same call vs Brazil/Italy?
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Croats putting on the theatrics for these free kicks. -PB
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Shouldnt have grabbed hold of him but trigger ready ref or what.
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libertarian wrote:Look at these idiots thanking god for a penalty that never was. I thought the exact same thing lol. -PB
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GrandPappyOfFunk wrote:I feel like that wasn't just a home town decision but a "big team" decision. Seems to me in the World Cup that these teams get favouritism whether it's intentional or not. Reckon Honduras or Nigeria would get the same call vs Brazil/Italy? Well put it this way, if Brazil don't win this and get the country some form of reward for their investment, the people who aren't rioting currently will end up rioting lol. -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:libertarian wrote:Look at these idiots thanking god for a penalty that never was. I thought the exact same thing lol. -PB Pretty sure any Sth American team will. Watch Chile try their luck tomorrow with this crap.
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paulbagzFC wrote:GrandPappyOfFunk wrote:I feel like that wasn't just a home town decision but a "big team" decision. Seems to me in the World Cup that these teams get favouritism whether it's intentional or not. Reckon Honduras or Nigeria would get the same call vs Brazil/Italy? Well put it this way, if Brazil don't win this and get the country some form of reward for their investment, the people who aren't rioting currently will end up rioting lol. -PB Haha very true, the ref is probably a police officer a la Naked Gun at the baseball...
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GrandPappyOfFunk wrote:I feel like that wasn't just a home town decision but a "big team" decision. Seems to me in the World Cup that these teams get favouritism whether it's intentional or not. Reckon Honduras or Nigeria would get the same call vs Brazil/Italy? Honduras would just get waved away. It's a shame that the refs never understand that there is a rule book to totally back them up when they get the decision right.
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I've got a feeling Cameroon-Mexico will be a cracker as it's a must win. Looking forward to it.
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What a shame.
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well time to get ready for work :(
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Mornin' folks
To show complete and utter contempt to sepp blatter and fifa, I just got up just then to watch the tail end of this game
There will be no staying up or getting up like the old days
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Condemned666 wrote:Mornin' folks
To show complete and utter contempt to sepp blatter and fifa, I just got up just then to watch the tail end of this game
There will be no staying up or getting up like the old days Dat anarchy. -PB
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Geez that was late by the keeper. Good toe poke. -PB
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cheating referee, the croat player was barged off the ball before oscar was released
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Was that not a free kick in the lead up to that goal?
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Fred what a diverrrrrr
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japanese refs :D thats all I have to say
croatia finding out what a league teams are up against in the acl each year
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Croatia robbed
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Not a pen but Lovren was stupid to put his arm across Fred.
No foul for the third goal, was a good challenge from Ramires.
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Olic didnt foul cesar that should of made it 2-2 at least this ref should be told to pack his bags. F*** asian refers are a joke!
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Davstar wrote:Olic didnt foul cesar that should of made it 2-2 at least this ref should be told to pack his bags. F*** asian refers are a joke! You can't go up and make contact with the keeper before the ball :/
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Davstar wrote:Olic didnt foul cesar that should of made it 2-2 at least this ref should be told to pack his bags. F*** asian refers are a joke! Looked like a foul to me. The penalty call though ](*,) . So shit to see the first game of the cup decided with a dive.
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:lol: To think the Croatians thought they had a chance.
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sydneyfc1987 wrote:Davstar wrote:Olic didnt foul cesar that should of made it 2-2 at least this ref should be told to pack his bags. F*** asian refers are a joke! Looked like a foul to me. The penalty call though ](*,) . So shit to see the first game of the cup decided with a dive. ahhh now our croatian mates know how we feel after the italian game......;)
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Only one match in and there's already strong suspicions of corruption/home town favouritism.
Well done FIFA. :lol:
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libertarian wrote:Was that not a free kick in the lead up to that goal? I thought so, but then to have so many defenders and not stop Oscar from getting a toe poke off is a bit deplorable. -PB
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I thought the referee was very ordinary he allowed players to barge in from the back all the time. Players are not going to be able to play possesion football with such a referee. The two good decisions the ref did make was the penalty and the foul against the goal keeper by Olic. It was a stupid reach in when the Croatian defender had players around him to help block the shot, it wasn;t Simunic on Viduka like with a rugby tackle in the area but because the player was trying to turn at the same time the hand on shoulder was enough to make him go down. The third goal by Brazil had a clear foul by Ramirez on Modric.
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Man of match - Yuichi Nishimura, =d> =d> =d> =d>
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nickk wrote: It was a stupid reach in when the Croatian defender had players around him to help block the shot, it wasn;t Simunic on Viduka like with a rugby tackle in the area but because the player was trying to turn at the same time the hand on shoulder was enough to make him go down.
Yeah - although the penalty was definitely at the softer end of the scale, the striker was being held back with a hand on the shoulder. Now that I've seen the replay, it's not as completely wrong as the comments on the forum led me to think.
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Definite exaggeration for the penalty. Even at full speed looked soft.
Still, good to see the Brazilians get a decent win. And yet all that was on Channel 7 was "Violence has marred the opening ceremony"
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Ironically in the AFL the penalty would have been a free kick for over the shoulder contact ...
I personally think the ref should have booked Fred for diving, no where else on the field would this have been a free kick. This would have set the standard for the world cup.
Secondly, after giving the penalty the ref should have warned the Croatian players to back off or start handing out yellow cards. Again set the standard.
FIFA failed on both these fronts!
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I didn't watch the full game but from the replay it looked like a fair penalty. The croatian player had a fair grip on the brazilian with both hands and sure he milked it but that's the risk you take when you've got your hands on the player in the penalty box, especially in a world cup fixture in front of his home crowd, and a FIFA assigned ref.:lol:
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sokorny wrote: Secondly, after giving the penalty the ref should have warned the Croatian players to back off or start handing out yellow cards. Again set the standard.
Agree a lot, so many times both teams ganged up on the ref looking to lynch him, scolari made Kovac look pretty tame on the sideline too :lol: On the pen, it looked like he was facing the contest directly in front so would've seen a hand over the shoulder and Fred flop from a sniper shot, a little more to the side he would've seen there was no real grab Really hope Fred wasn't planning on using this world cup to get a big fat contract somewhere, but to be fair the one thing he did the whole game he did well
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Diving c#nts. As usual the big teams are protected. What a joke. As someone else said would not have been a foul anywhere else on the pitch.
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The Maco wrote:
On the pen, it looked like he was facing the contest directly in front so would've seen a hand over the shoulder and Fred flop from a sniper shot, a little more to the side he would've seen there was no real grab
This. 100% correct. From the angle the ref had you can see why he gave it even though it was bullshit from any of the other 1500 camera angles. Why wouldn't you try and con the ref? The payoff for conning him is way higher than the penalty for being caught. Until something is done c#nts are going to go down every tournament from now until forever. My very easy solution to this, seeing you can't change the score post-match, is to review matches after and hand out suspensions for clear instances of diving. You can bet your arse as soon as the first couple of suspensions are handed out the diving, cheating, simulating fuckers wouldn't be game to try it on. 100% doable by a panel of say 3 former refs and players and a 100% cleanup of the game would result. Get onto it FIFA you corrupt peanuts.
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Munrubenmuz ... wouldn't stop them doing it in the final however.
But otherwise agree. Review simulations (well obvious ones anyway). I think even if the penalty is warranted for Fred the theatrics weren't, and therefore even if the review panel agreed with the decision of the referee Fred's reaction was not warranted (except for a post match ban).
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sokorny wrote:Munrubenmuz ... wouldn't stop them doing it in the final however.
But otherwise agree. Review simulations (well obvious ones anyway). I think even if the penalty is warranted for Fred the theatrics weren't, and therefore even if the review panel agreed with the decision of the referee Fred's reaction was not warranted (except for a post match ban). True about the final I suppose. I guess you could make bans carry over post tournament (not that it'd matter if you've just won the WC) for players that were still playing. That's an obvious loophole you've pointed out but if you enact my system at least the cheats aren't going to make the final. Edited by munrubenmuz: 13/6/2014 12:38:06 PM
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Would like to congratulate Brazil on winning the 2014 FIFA World Cup.
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RedKat wrote:Fred dived, Oscar scored a great goal, Neymar walked the walk. Brazil deserved the win- were the better team from the 20th minute onwards. Oscar's goal was a futsal special. Reminiscent of Ronaldo's toe poke against Turkey in the 2002 semi.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:Would like to congratulate Brazil on winning the 2014 FIFA World Cup. it does look like they're supposed to
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RedKat wrote:Fred dived, Oscar scored a great goal, Neymar walked the walk. Brazil deserved the win- were the better team from the 20th minute onwards. Another player from another team probably would've seen red for Neymar's elbow, which funnily enough was 2 minutes before his first goal.
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:lol: According to the AFC the referee was strong and was unaffected by the pressure of the crowd :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Was a penalty-why would a defender be that stupid so to put his hand on the shoulder of striker backing in to him when inside the penalty box. The fact that Fred over-acted after the fact is neither here nor there.
I question the Cro keeper for both of the other goals-both weak shots from distance with the keeper too slow to react.
Not sure that the Cros should have played with what are in effect two number 10's in Modric and Raketic against an attacking team like Brazil.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote::lol: According to the AFC the referee was strong and was unaffected by the pressure of the crowd :lol: :lol: :lol: What's the funny part? Right decision.
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