Match 1: Brazil v Croatia


Match 1: Brazil v Croatia

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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
:lol: According to the AFC the referee was strong and was unaffected by the pressure of the crowd :lol: :lol: :lol:


What's the funny part? Right decision.
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Was a penalty-why would a defender be that stupid so to put his hand on the shoulder of striker backing in to him when inside the penalty box. The fact that Fred over-acted after the fact is neither here nor there.

I question the Cro keeper for both of the other goals-both weak shots from distance with the keeper too slow to react.

Not sure that the Cros should have played with what are in effect two number 10's in Modric and Raketic against an attacking team like Brazil.


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:lol: According to the AFC the referee was strong and was unaffected by the pressure of the crowd :lol: :lol: :lol:
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RedKat wrote:
Fred dived, Oscar scored a great goal, Neymar walked the walk. Brazil deserved the win- were the better team from the 20th minute onwards.


Another player from another team probably would've seen red for Neymar's elbow, which funnily enough was 2 minutes before his first goal.
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
Would like to congratulate Brazil on winning the 2014 FIFA World Cup.


it does look like they're supposed to

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RedKat wrote:
Fred dived, Oscar scored a great goal, Neymar walked the walk. Brazil deserved the win- were the better team from the 20th minute onwards.


Oscar's goal was a futsal special. Reminiscent of Ronaldo's toe poke against Turkey in the 2002 semi.


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Edited by GloryPerth: 13/6/2014 01:33:29 PM
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Would like to congratulate Brazil on winning the 2014 FIFA World Cup.
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sokorny wrote:
Munrubenmuz ... wouldn't stop them doing it in the final however.

But otherwise agree. Review simulations (well obvious ones anyway). I think even if the penalty is warranted for Fred the theatrics weren't, and therefore even if the review panel agreed with the decision of the referee Fred's reaction was not warranted (except for a post match ban).


True about the final I suppose. I guess you could make bans carry over post tournament (not that it'd matter if you've just won the WC) for players that were still playing.

That's an obvious loophole you've pointed out but if you enact my system at least the cheats aren't going to make the final.




Edited by munrubenmuz: 13/6/2014 12:38:06 PM


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Munrubenmuz ... wouldn't stop them doing it in the final however.

But otherwise agree. Review simulations (well obvious ones anyway). I think even if the penalty is warranted for Fred the theatrics weren't, and therefore even if the review panel agreed with the decision of the referee Fred's reaction was not warranted (except for a post match ban).
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The Maco wrote:


On the pen, it looked like he was facing the contest directly in front so would've seen a hand over the shoulder and Fred flop from a sniper shot, a little more to the side he would've seen there was no real grab


This. 100% correct. From the angle the ref had you can see why he gave it even though it was bullshit from any of the other 1500 camera angles.

Why wouldn't you try and con the ref? The payoff for conning him is way higher than the penalty for being caught. Until something is done c#nts are going to go down every tournament from now until forever.

My very easy solution to this, seeing you can't change the score post-match, is to review matches after and hand out suspensions for clear instances of diving.

You can bet your arse as soon as the first couple of suspensions are handed out the diving, cheating, simulating fuckers wouldn't be game to try it on.

100% doable by a panel of say 3 former refs and players and a 100% cleanup of the game would result.

Get onto it FIFA you corrupt peanuts.


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Diving c#nts.

As usual the big teams are protected. What a joke.

As someone else said would not have been a foul anywhere else on the pitch.


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sokorny wrote:

Secondly, after giving the penalty the ref should have warned the Croatian players to back off or start handing out yellow cards. Again set the standard.

Agree a lot, so many times both teams ganged up on the ref looking to lynch him, scolari made Kovac look pretty tame on the sideline too :lol:

On the pen, it looked like he was facing the contest directly in front so would've seen a hand over the shoulder and Fred flop from a sniper shot, a little more to the side he would've seen there was no real grab
Really hope Fred wasn't planning on using this world cup to get a big fat contract somewhere, but to be fair the one thing he did the whole game he did well
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I didn't watch the full game but from the replay it looked like a fair penalty. The croatian player had a fair grip on the brazilian with both hands and sure he milked it but that's the risk you take when you've got your hands on the player in the penalty box, especially in a world cup fixture in front of his home crowd, and a FIFA assigned ref.:lol:
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Ironically in the AFL the penalty would have been a free kick for over the shoulder contact ...

I personally think the ref should have booked Fred for diving, no where else on the field would this have been a free kick. This would have set the standard for the world cup.

Secondly, after giving the penalty the ref should have warned the Croatian players to back off or start handing out yellow cards. Again set the standard.

FIFA failed on both these fronts!
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Definite exaggeration for the penalty. Even at full speed looked soft.

Still, good to see the Brazilians get a decent win. And yet all that was on Channel 7 was "Violence has marred the opening ceremony"
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nickk wrote:

It was a stupid reach in when the Croatian defender had players around him to help block the shot,
it wasn;t Simunic on Viduka like with a rugby tackle in the area but because the player was trying to turn at the same time the hand on shoulder was enough to make him go down.


Yeah - although the penalty was definitely at the softer end of the scale, the striker was being held back with a hand on the shoulder.

Now that I've seen the replay, it's not as completely wrong as the comments on the forum led me to think.


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Man of match - Yuichi Nishimura, =d> =d> =d> =d>
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I thought the referee was very ordinary he allowed players to barge in from the back all the time.
Players are not going to be able to play possesion football with such a referee.
The two good decisions the ref did make was the penalty and the foul against the goal keeper by Olic.
It was a stupid reach in when the Croatian defender had players around him to help block the shot,
it wasn;t Simunic on Viduka like with a rugby tackle in the area but because the player was trying to turn at the same time the hand on shoulder was enough to make him go down.
The third goal by Brazil had a clear foul by Ramirez on Modric.







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libertarian wrote:
Was that not a free kick in the lead up to that goal?


I thought so, but then to have so many defenders and not stop Oscar from getting a toe poke off is a bit deplorable.

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Only one match in and there's already strong suspicions of corruption/home town favouritism.

Well done FIFA. :lol:
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sydneyfc1987 wrote:
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Olic didnt foul cesar that should of made it 2-2 at least this ref should be told to pack his bags. F*** asian refers are a joke!


Looked like a foul to me.

The penalty call though ](*,) . So shit to see the first game of the cup decided with a dive.


ahhh now our croatian mates know how we feel after the italian game......;)
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:lol: To think the Croatians thought they had a chance.
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Davstar wrote:
Olic didnt foul cesar that should of made it 2-2 at least this ref should be told to pack his bags. F*** asian refers are a joke!


Looked like a foul to me.

The penalty call though ](*,) . So shit to see the first game of the cup decided with a dive.

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Davstar wrote:
Olic didnt foul cesar that should of made it 2-2 at least this ref should be told to pack his bags. F*** asian refers are a joke!


You can't go up and make contact with the keeper before the ball :/
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Olic didnt foul cesar that should of made it 2-2 at least this ref should be told to pack his bags. F*** asian refers are a joke!

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Not a pen but Lovren was stupid to put his arm across Fred.

No foul for the third goal, was a good challenge from Ramires.
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yea that was fucked


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Croatia robbed
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japanese refs :D thats all I have to say

croatia finding out what a league teams are up against in the acl each year
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