Klinsmann's next task should be to smash the American system


Klinsmann's next task should be to smash the American system

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“You are the only country in the world that has the pyramid upside-down,” he said in his post mortem on the US’s World Cup exit against Ghana. “You pay for having your kid play soccer because your goal is not that your kid becomes a professional soccer player – because your goal is that your kid gets a scholarship in a high school or in a college, which is completely opposite from the rest of the world.”


I'd rather live in a country that encourages education and is less good at football as a consequence, rather a country of slumdogs that is slightly better at football.

I think the point is
If you want your kids to have a good education pay for an education not pay to play football to get a football scholarship to get into a school for a good education.

Its a bit like not owning a car but buying petrol for coupons in the hope of winning a car.


lol I love that analogy
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“You are the only country in the world that has the pyramid upside-down,” he said in his post mortem on the US’s World Cup exit against Ghana. “You pay for having your kid play soccer because your goal is not that your kid becomes a professional soccer player – because your goal is that your kid gets a scholarship in a high school or in a college, which is completely opposite from the rest of the world.”


I'd rather live in a country that encourages education and is less good at football as a consequence, rather a country of slumdogs that is slightly better at football.

I think the point is
If you want your kids to have a good education pay for an education not pay to play football to get a football scholarship to get into a school for a good education.

Its a bit like not owning a car but buying petrol for coupons in the hope of winning a car.
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“You are the only country in the world that has the pyramid upside-down,” he said in his post mortem on the US’s World Cup exit against Ghana. “You pay for having your kid play soccer because your goal is not that your kid becomes a professional soccer player – because your goal is that your kid gets a scholarship in a high school or in a college, which is completely opposite from the rest of the world.”


I'd rather live in a country that encourages education and is less good at football as a consequence, rather a country of slumdogs that is slightly better at football.
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Yep, sounds familiar. Chris Sharpe is a part owner and Head GK coach of Core Soccer which is one of the biggest academies in Colorado and is the biggest GK academy in Colorado, and he says very similar stuff. The academy is owned by an Aussie and pom though, so he says they try pretty hard to get kids thinking about football as a career rather than a pathway to a college scholarship. Being the GK coach at the Rapids allows him to provide access to the right pathways for the right kids though, which is a massive plus. In the end though, as long as all US sport is based on the college system, not much progress can be made.
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To be fair this system works well for other sports in the US, how do they produce world class basketball players compared to the rest of the World?


That is a topic on its own but put simply in the USA the sheer numbers combined with "Street Basketball" are a potent mix.

Notice also that the "World Class Basket ballers" are envariably African Americans on the lower socio-economic scale.

And that is what Klinsmann is saying that soccer is a middle class sport based on pay to play. Sounds familiar?


Oh yes i agree definetly about targeting more lower socio-economic class in the sport, good point.

But the 'Pay what play' system applies to all sports in the US like here, nothing is for free anymore there days.

But the FFA and state feds should try everything they can to make the game more affordable thats for sure. We don't want to miss out on any talented youngster who cant afford the costs.

Edited by Barca4life: 3/7/2014 11:56:51 PM
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Barca4Life wrote:
To be fair this system works well for other sports in the US, how do they produce world class basketball players compared to the rest of the World?


That is a topic on its own but put simply in the USA the sheer numbers combined with "Street Basketball" are a potent mix.

Notice also that the "World Class Basket ballers" are envariably African Americans on the lower socio-economic scale.

And that is what Klinsmann is saying that soccer is a middle class sport based on pay to play. Sounds familiar?
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To be fair this system works well for other sports in the US, how do they produce world class basketball players compared to the rest of the World? then compared to how England cant produce players in there own league with the EPL? I know apples and oranges but the facts remain here why player identification and coaching is very important more than just pathways.

I wonder if the US are trying to implement a National Curriculum just like us?

Maybe they need to look at what kind of players they are producing and identifying, surely there are more Landon Donavan's and Clint Dempsey's out there? It seems they suffer from a poor ID scouting system and coaching education system like us IMO.
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The US still hasn't implemented an across-the-board, mandated National Curriculum w/small-sided games @ junior level as its foundation like we have, AFAIK.

More's the pity for them b/c the moment they do, they'll have laid down the groundwork for the country to become one of world football's 21st-Century powerhouses:idea:


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Jurgen Klinsmann's next task should be to smash the American system
United States are unlikely to punch their full weight on the world stage as long as the domestic structure of the game is so flawed, unequal and anti-competitive
By Liviu Bird, World Cup nation: USA
5:52PM BST 02 Jul 2014
Until the player development system in the United States receives a major overhaul, the nation of seemingly endless resources and population will continue to fall short of its immense potential at the World Cup. That system, not a lack of talent or one coach at the senior national team level, is what holds the USA back from winning.

Before taking over as United States manager, working as a television analyst for ESPN during the 2010 tournament, Jürgen Klinsmann spoke about the development problems.

“You are the only country in the world that has the pyramid upside-down,” he said in his post mortem on the US’s World Cup exit against Ghana. “You pay for having your kid play soccer because your goal is not that your kid becomes a professional soccer player – because your goal is that your kid gets a scholarship in a high school or in a college, which is completely opposite from the rest of the world.”

The pay-to-play system still persistent at all levels of the American youth game is immensely crippling. Without money to pay for club fees, coaches, uniform costs and travel, players from lower-class backgrounds and immigrant families are often left behind. Equal opportunity still does not exist for anybody who wants to play.

In the US Soccer Development Academy, which was instituted in 2007 to encompass the nation in a higher level of competition at the oldest youth age groups, pay-to-play is slowly being eliminated, particularly among Major League Soccer clubs.

Still, youth clubs have no incentive for developing players for those clubs because they do not receive fees, in line with Fifa’s statutes on the transfer of youth players; the trickle-down effect from clubs that have money is nonexistent. The structure does nothing to reward excellence or punish failure.

At the highest levels, the pyramid is not only upside-down but also closed to all but a select few. MLS is a single-entity structure that allows no true free agency and places emphasis on carry-overs, in particular a reliance on the university system, from other American sports not subject to global forces, such as basketball and American football.

The discussion of instituting a system of promotion and relegation has become taboo to the point that suggesting it is a quick way to be labelled as an unrealistic radical. Instead of promoting competition and the arms race of player development that would follow, the league’s successes (and failures) are shared among all clubs, watering down the essence of a true football pyramid and never allowing ambition to flourish beyond the lowest common denominator.

Ironically, in a nation founded on ideals of free-market capitalism, the current system requires as little financial commitment as possible and discourages teams in the same league from competing for resources. American players at the World Cup are handicapped because they grow up in an environment not subject to the same forces of competition that forges players for their opponents.

Blaming the coach is shallow scapegoating that ignores the larger problem: by the time Klinsmann got his hands on the 23 players who wore the crest in Brazil, the majority had already been ruined.

Just before the World Cup, Klinsmann was handed a four-year contract extension that added the label of technical director to his duties. To this point, he has been outspoken about the changes that need to be made. Now that he holds the steering wheel, people in positions of support must let him make changes to the broken system whose product he is responsible for coaching.

Look no further than the team who knocked the US out on Tuesday for an example of the possibilities. With the profits from hosting Euro 2000, Belgium overhauled their development system to spawn the golden generation still kicking in Brazil. It can be done – and it can be done quickly.

The first step is for those in charge to buy into the real reason for change: footballing improvement, not economic windfall. Profits come as a result of the product on the field, but trying to circumvent the order will not win the US a World Cup.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/usa/10941624/World-Cup-2014-Jurgen-Klinsmanns-next-task-should-be-to-smash-the-American-system.html


Klinsmann sounds like me. :d
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