Small minds discuss people.

Average minds discuss events.

Great minds discuss ideas.

Does that include bad ideas?

Edited by The Maco: 19/9/2014 11:01:56 PM

The discussion will determine that.

You know your group is fucked up when Al-Qaeda doesnt want to deal with you.

And I have found a lot of muslims I'm friends with are complaining about the treatment towards their community, which is fair, but they never condemn or distance themselves from these people.

Hunting season of IS is open.

In this context, saying religion should be banned is akin to atheist extremism

And?

Your examples are not based on faith or fantasy but actual real tangible things you can touch and see.

Religion is belief based on faith. Faith is belief without evidence.

In a 1000 years time they'll look back on the cretins of today and wonder how it was that so many, were so stupid for believing such absurd untruths.

You're saying we should do what IS are wanting to do with atheism instead of Islam, what's the difference?
(apologies if I'm mixing your words)

Nail on the head. Those "gangsters" weren't exactly church goers. They did not use a book to justify their actions.

Edited by polemides: 20/9/2014 12:47:52 AM

They were still Christian you fuck stain. Hell the calabrese are catholics but they don't represent catholics every where . Hell the n'dragheta , mafia, Russian mob, irish mob, at Al are all catholics and Christian . You're not an historian your just a plain old bigot

Edited by mvfcarsenal16.8: 20/9/2014 05:27:28 AM

I feel safer already. If proven in a court of law after a fair trial this criminals should be deported.

The double standard of this is, if I were a Christian wanting to build a church or place of worship in most middle eastern countries, I face the same problems muslims face here when trying to build a mosque - if not worse repucutions. Muslims always play the victim card, but if you understood this history of Islam and it's place in the world you'd know better.

Here's a tip. Educate yourself on all current events from both sides of perspective and do some research into the facts behind Islam and you'll see A LOT clearer about how backward and scary this religions ideologies really are.

They can't, and for good reason. It goes against the principles of Islam.

If you read the Quran, (I have) and follow it as muslims are ordered to do (I say ordered because the word muslim means to "submit" to the will of Allah), it tells people to carry on the work of a 7th century fanatical warlord, and live as he did back then. Yes, that is a simplistic view of Islam but at it's heart it is a very simplistic religion.

No, he's absolutely right.

Hahahaha. Goes against the principles of Islam. Hahaha. I love when people make ridiculous statements.




http://www.globalresearch.ca/muslim-leaders-worldwide-condemn-isis/5397364

Edited by zimbos_05: 20/9/2014 10:18:32 AM

Zimbabwe is not going through civil war. I don't see your point on that.

Every other region of Africa that is plagued by war (which is very minimal) has western intervention. You will find that Diamonds, and Oil once again are the big factors.

I do appreciate the number of countries which have a predominantly Muslim population happy to denounce IS and other splinter groups. We have UAE and Qatar happy to accept the US led forces to base themselves in their countries, even the Iran president supporting the War on IS, that's nice, but why don't they actually help?

BTW zimbos_05, I have enjoyed reading what you have to say, well in sir.

Why help when they know how easy it is to get America to do their work for them?

New anti-terror laws giving unprecedented power to police and government. Heeeeeere we go, Australia.

Says the white trust fund baby . Fuck your thick you have no idea but of course being white and Christian you don't have to put up with anything

Is this going along the lines of 'you don't know how white you are till someone tells you you're white'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteness_studies

:lol: Honestly we (the west, yes we are westerners) should throw our hands up and take responsibility for everything. We get blamed for it anyway.

Mohammed had many slaves and wives (basically another form of slavery at the time), fucked a nine year old and was a brutal mass murderer. How do people worship this cunt?

Believe in fucking fairies at the bottom of the garden if you fucking want. I'll tell you what shits me about religion and particularly Christianity. You say it doesn't affect me, it doesn't affect you, so what does it matter?

Well you couldn't be more wrong. Their influence (the crime as you put it) is everywhere.

To list just a few ways Christianity sticks it's big fucking nose in my, yours and everyone else's business.

1/ Opposes stem cell research. (Specifically the use of embryos but other parts as well.)
2/ Is against gay marriage.
3/ Is against assisted suicide, euthanasia, and the right to die with dignity.
4 / Demands religious education be taught in schools and runs interference against ethics classes in NSW.
5/ Has the Lords Prayer read in Parliament at the beginning at every single sitting day despite the constitution specifically separating church and state.
6/ Opposes (specifically the Catholic church) the use of contraception resulting in MILLIONS of poor bastards becoming infected with AIDS in Africa.
7/ Psychologically scarred generations of women who were brought up to believe that sex was "dirty" and not to be enjoyed.

You could go on for hours. Believe whatever you want to believe but get the fuck out of my life. If I want to take my own life rather than have a prolonged, protracted, agonising death then what's that got to do with the church. Fuck off.

And yet who's the first cab of the rank when that sort of thing is brought up? That's right the friggin' church.

Don't tell me they don't have sway over my life. They're crawling all over it.

I'll read it later. I'm changing lights in the house at the moment and about to turn the power off. If God is on my side (probably not) maybe I won't get electrocuted.

Tomatoes Tomatos. Islam, Christianity.

Religion just blows...

How did a thread on the terror raids become a thread I to dismiss img religion ?? If you don't belive then that's your perogative . But to call every religious person out there nutters is another thing . Some people have reasons why they believe in god and for you to chastise them without knowing why is insulting

Edited by mvfcarsenal16.8: 20/9/2014 01:56:04 PM

No one is holding back our evolution . If people want to believe then why is it so hard for some people to let them believe ? Does it effect you that much ?? Seriously ?? I still remember the day someone told me my religion was nothing more than Paedophile preachers and my child shouldn't be near me. A bloody week after I lost my father . I choose to believe on god, as that's the only thing that helped me through finding out he got brutally murdered .