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rusty0256 wrote:Heineken wrote:What the actual fuck is a flogger? :lol: An implement usually used in BDSM, it is made up of a handle and several straps which are attached to it. Can be used to whip or to caress. "She tied me up and used the flogger on my body... it was so erotic!" Also from the verb FLOG of which no further explanation of meaning is required. wot
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fmd some of you blokes are insecure
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Of AFL supporters, if you ignore the media and noisy nutters, most are at minimum benign re. A-League and football, many support both codes, some actively.
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connaust wrote:Of AFL supporters, if you ignore the media and noisy nutters, most are at minimum benign re. A-League and football, many support both codes, some actively. I think it's the case more and more too. Soon if the journalists dont cut the crap they will start to lose fans.
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connaust wrote:Of AFL supporters, if you ignore the media and noisy nutters, most are at minimum benign re. A-League and football, many support both codes, some actively. This. Ffs. The two groups are not mutually exclusive of each other. I support Adelaide United and I support Geelong, always have and always will. I don't feel the need to constantly bag the crap out of one code to feel better about the other and I enjoy them both. The fact that they are barely played at the same time makes it even more irrelevant to me. Although the media and a minority of AFL supporters are vocal and defensive about the A-League taking over I can't complain about it when I read threads like this and witness exactly the same thing from Football supporters.
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GrandPappyOfFunk wrote:connaust wrote:Of AFL supporters, if you ignore the media and noisy nutters, most are at minimum benign re. A-League and football, many support both codes, some actively. This. Ffs. The two groups are not mutually exclusive of each other. I support Adelaide United and I support Geelong, always have and always will. I don't feel the need to constantly bag the crap out of one code to feel better about the other and I enjoy them both. The fact that they are barely played at the same time makes it even more irrelevant to me. Although the media and a minority of AFL supporters are vocal and defensive about the A-League taking over I can't complain about it when I read threads like this and witness exactly the same thing from Football supporters. I disagree it's fine from the fans. It's the media that needs to be mutual . Watch this from 3 "sports" journalists. The Qld goes out of his way to pronance the league wrong after he says they were having "collective orgasms" and the Sydney guy the same except he just seems stupid instead of sinister. http://www.foxsports.com.au/video?v=press-box-acl_1227103970142&vc=264
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^ this hate mongering on a "football friendly" network
Of course football fans will defend the sport when it is constantly attacked.
Edited by scott21: 28/10/2014 08:55:00 AM
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Saw that last night. The qld bloke is as daft as they come. Anytime I see him on fox I know there's gonna be some kind of one eyed bigot comment. Also the sydney bloke is just plain ignorant.
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GrandPappyOfFunk wrote:connaust wrote:Of AFL supporters, if you ignore the media and noisy nutters, most are at minimum benign re. A-League and football, many support both codes, some actively. This. Ffs. The two groups are not mutually exclusive of each other. I support Adelaide United and I support Geelong, always have and always will. I don't feel the need to constantly bag the crap out of one code to feel better about the other and I enjoy them both. The fact that they are barely played at the same time makes it even more irrelevant to me. Although the media and a minority of AFL supporters are vocal and defensive about the A-League taking over I can't complain about it when I read threads like this and witness exactly the same thing from Football supporters. Oooh, I'd be careful of writing things like that around here. You'll be circled and declared a 'troll'! AFL is the enemy - THAT's the most important thing to remember.
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I hope the FFA is paying attention and don't try and sanitise football. Let's hope we aren't saying the same things in 20 years time.
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Erebus wrote:I hope the FFA is paying attention and don't try and sanitise football. Let's hope we aren't saying the same things in 20 years time. Yeah, I can't see Sydney FC and Western Sydney sharing ANZ Stadium anytime soon. Mind you, both Melbourne clubs pretty much share the same home ground....
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Heineken wrote:Erebus wrote:I hope the FFA is paying attention and don't try and sanitise football. Let's hope we aren't saying the same things in 20 years time. Yeah, I can't see Sydney FC and Western Sydney sharing ANZ Stadium anytime soon. Mind you, both Melbourne clubs pretty much share the same home ground.... Yeah we do, sort of, but in 5-10 years maybe City will be playing at Etihad Stadium and leaving an upgraded AAMI Park for us.. Well I can only hope.
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Wasn't just referring to the stadiums. Moreso the sanitisation in the stands that the article was talking about.
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azzaMVFC wrote:Heineken wrote:Erebus wrote:I hope the FFA is paying attention and don't try and sanitise football. Let's hope we aren't saying the same things in 20 years time. Yeah, I can't see Sydney FC and Western Sydney sharing ANZ Stadium anytime soon. Mind you, both Melbourne clubs pretty much share the same home ground.... Yeah we do, sort of, but in 5-10 years maybe City will be playing at Etihad Stadium and leaving an upgraded AAMI Park for us.. Well I can only hope. In 5-10 years time, won't the AFL have full control of Ethad? And they will go about systematically blocking any sport that isn't AFL, and maybe perhaps the odd Cricket 20-20? I still maintain, I think it's only matter of time before Melbourne Citeart will have to seriously look at relocation within Melbourne or Victoria. I honestly think it's the only way that club is going to grow. 2 teams that locate themselves in the heart (pardon the pun) of Melbourne isn't going to work out in the long scheme of things. That's my impression anyway.
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Heineken wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Heineken wrote:Erebus wrote:I hope the FFA is paying attention and don't try and sanitise football. Let's hope we aren't saying the same things in 20 years time. Yeah, I can't see Sydney FC and Western Sydney sharing ANZ Stadium anytime soon. Mind you, both Melbourne clubs pretty much share the same home ground.... Yeah we do, sort of, but in 5-10 years maybe City will be playing at Etihad Stadium and leaving an upgraded AAMI Park for us.. Well I can only hope. In 5-10 years time, won't the AFL have full control of Ethad? And they will go about systematically blocking any sport that isn't AFL, and maybe perhaps the odd Cricket 20-20? I still maintain, I think it's only matter of time before Melbourne Citeart will have to seriously look at relocation within Melbourne or Victoria. I honestly think it's the only way that club is going to grow. 2 teams that locate themselves in the heart (pardon the pun) of Melbourne isn't going to work out in the long scheme of things. That's my impression anyway. Yeah I think you're right. Would be better anyway. We move to AAMI, and City relocate to somewhere just out of Melbourne, whether it be Western or Eastern suburbs and build their own stadium out there. 30,000 seater just like AAMI Park, I think they would flourish if that happened.
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Quote:It was a salient reminder for us older football types of how AFL used to be as a live experience, and perhaps the extent to which the commercialisation and homogenisation of our own code has chipped away at it...........................
The reason you don't see these things any more is in most cases the same: ............and corporatisation of the game to within an inch of its life.
Uh oh............. AFL must be really screwed if the HAL is seen as 'authentic'
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scott21 wrote:GrandPappyOfFunk wrote:connaust wrote:Of AFL supporters, if you ignore the media and noisy nutters, most are at minimum benign re. A-League and football, many support both codes, some actively. This. Ffs. The two groups are not mutually exclusive of each other. I support Adelaide United and I support Geelong, always have and always will. I don't feel the need to constantly bag the crap out of one code to feel better about the other and I enjoy them both. The fact that they are barely played at the same time makes it even more irrelevant to me. Although the media and a minority of AFL supporters are vocal and defensive about the A-League taking over I can't complain about it when I read threads like this and witness exactly the same thing from Football supporters. I disagree it's fine from the fans. It's the media that needs to be mutual . Watch this from 3 "sports" journalists. The Qld goes out of his way to pronance the league wrong after he says they were having "collective orgasms" and the Sydney guy the same except he just seems stupid instead of sinister. http://www.foxsports.com.au/video?v=press-box-acl_1227103970142&vc=264 I'll check that video out tonight when I get home, our work computers are still running IE8 and such luxuries as Adobe Flash are not allowed :) I do take your point though and do agree that the media is biased I was more referring to the average fans. I was only reminded yesterday through someones post of that Ron Barassi front cover squashing the football for Australia daring to move the AFL season to host the World Cup...that pretty much says it all :)
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Erebus wrote:I hope the FFA is paying attention and don't try and sanitise football. Let's hope we aren't saying the same things in 20 years time.
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Looking at some of the AFL media and forums, I have to say the seed has been planted. Everytime the AFL screw up...and they are quite good at that, they becomes a growing chorus of "the A-League will be bigger in 20 years if we keep this up." Just today the AFL is floating an idea of restricting one game a week to internet subscriptions to get Telstra to pump more in despite having their own dedicated Foxtel channel, and a number of comments are along the lines of "this is why the A-League will get bigger with the AFL ignoring fans."
I'd like to ultimately see Victoria get 4 teams one day, that way you grow a true sense of tribalism and give the Melbourne media enough news to keep them interested all summer long. It's certainly achievable, and with Melbourne having more members than Sydney a third team in the short to medium term can happen, all we need is to wait two seasons to stablise City's crowds. Strike while the iron is hot and put the initative back on Victory and City to mark their territory while leaving the SE for the third team.
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The Ostrich wrote:torcida90 wrote:The main lesson here is for football. While we all want more money flowing into the game it can't come at the expense of certain aspects of the game.
Do you really want that extra few million on the TV deal if it means that Perth have to kick-off at 3pm so it doesn't unbalance the schedule or Brisbane have to have 7:30 Thursday kick offs because it rates better?
Do you really want a better stadium deal if it means both SFC and WSW have to share ANZ as a home ground all season long?
Do you really want a billionaire owner if they decide to re-locate the club and change its identity?
Do you really want bigger crowds if the majority of the fans are mostly indifferent and apathetic towards the team they are supporting? What if that "extra few million" as you put it, is the difference between saving a club or having it die, or a new club starting up or not? It'll be a long while yet before the game has money to burn like the other big codes. It's an over simplification to say take a few extra million and whore yourself off for every cent you can get. By not whoring yourself off for every cent you increase the value of your inherent Goodwill,which means you can charge a premium for everything .So the money you make short term, limits the money you can make long term, by the increasing value of your Brand. To the NRL and AFL this thought process is counter intuitive.The thought that you would do what WSW has done and listen to your fans and play at a smaller venue ,would have been insane.It's also fair to say FFA were of the same mindset when they established the HAL,but following the success of WSW they have had a Eureka moment. That's why I believe a North Sydney team playing out of North Sydney Oval would also work.A great small ground and if games were played on Fri night it would be packed.
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imonfourfourtwo wrote:Looking at some of the AFL media and forums, I have to say the seed has been planted. Everytime the AFL screw up...and they are quite good at that, they becomes a growing chorus of "the A-League will be bigger in 20 years if we keep this up." Just today the AFL is floating an idea of restricting one game a week to internet subscriptions to get Telstra to pump more in despite having their own dedicated Foxtel channel, and a number of comments are along the lines of "this is why the A-League will get bigger with the AFL ignoring fans."
I'd like to ultimately see Victoria get 4 teams one day, that way you grow a true sense of tribalism and give the Melbourne media enough news to keep them interested all summer long. It's certainly achievable, and with Melbourne having more members than Sydney a third team in the short to medium term can happen, all we need is to wait two seasons to stablise City's crowds. Strike while the iron is hot and put the initative back on Victory and City to mark their territory while leaving the SE for the third team. I get some mad laughs out of that SEN facebook page.
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azzaMVFC wrote:imonfourfourtwo wrote:Looking at some of the AFL media and forums, I have to say the seed has been planted. Everytime the AFL screw up...and they are quite good at that, they becomes a growing chorus of "the A-League will be bigger in 20 years if we keep this up." Just today the AFL is floating an idea of restricting one game a week to internet subscriptions to get Telstra to pump more in despite having their own dedicated Foxtel channel, and a number of comments are along the lines of "this is why the A-League will get bigger with the AFL ignoring fans."
I'd like to ultimately see Victoria get 4 teams one day, that way you grow a true sense of tribalism and give the Melbourne media enough news to keep them interested all summer long. It's certainly achievable, and with Melbourne having more members than Sydney a third team in the short to medium term can happen, all we need is to wait two seasons to stablise City's crowds. Strike while the iron is hot and put the initative back on Victory and City to mark their territory while leaving the SE for the third team. I get some mad laughs out of that SEN facebook page. Guy #1: A-League going from strength to strength. Guy #2: Never watched an A League game so yeah real strong? He's got us there!
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azzaMVFC wrote:Heineken wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Heineken wrote:Erebus wrote:I hope the FFA is paying attention and don't try and sanitise football. Let's hope we aren't saying the same things in 20 years time. Yeah, I can't see Sydney FC and Western Sydney sharing ANZ Stadium anytime soon. Mind you, both Melbourne clubs pretty much share the same home ground.... Yeah we do, sort of, but in 5-10 years maybe City will be playing at Etihad Stadium and leaving an upgraded AAMI Park for us.. Well I can only hope. In 5-10 years time, won't the AFL have full control of Ethad? And they will go about systematically blocking any sport that isn't AFL, and maybe perhaps the odd Cricket 20-20? I still maintain, I think it's only matter of time before Melbourne Citeart will have to seriously look at relocation within Melbourne or Victoria. I honestly think it's the only way that club is going to grow. 2 teams that locate themselves in the heart (pardon the pun) of Melbourne isn't going to work out in the long scheme of things. That's my impression anyway. Yeah I think you're right. Would be better anyway. We move to AAMI, and City relocate to somewhere just out of Melbourne, whether it be Western or Eastern suburbs and build their own stadium out there. 30,000 seater just like AAMI Park, I think they would flourish if that happened. They have the financially backing, would be a real statement to the fans.
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zander wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Heineken wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Heineken wrote:Erebus wrote:I hope the FFA is paying attention and don't try and sanitise football. Let's hope we aren't saying the same things in 20 years time. Yeah, I can't see Sydney FC and Western Sydney sharing ANZ Stadium anytime soon. Mind you, both Melbourne clubs pretty much share the same home ground.... Yeah we do, sort of, but in 5-10 years maybe City will be playing at Etihad Stadium and leaving an upgraded AAMI Park for us.. Well I can only hope. In 5-10 years time, won't the AFL have full control of Ethad? And they will go about systematically blocking any sport that isn't AFL, and maybe perhaps the odd Cricket 20-20? I still maintain, I think it's only matter of time before Melbourne Citeart will have to seriously look at relocation within Melbourne or Victoria. I honestly think it's the only way that club is going to grow. 2 teams that locate themselves in the heart (pardon the pun) of Melbourne isn't going to work out in the long scheme of things. That's my impression anyway. Yeah I think you're right. Would be better anyway. We move to AAMI, and City relocate to somewhere just out of Melbourne, whether it be Western or Eastern suburbs and build their own stadium out there. 30,000 seater just like AAMI Park, I think they would flourish if that happened. They have the financially backing, would be a real statement to the fans. This is what I'm thinking. I can honestly see the City group in 3 or so years time thinking that they're not going to grow playing as "Not-Melbbourne-Victory". They can still call themselves Melbourne City, but they should aim to re-locate to another part of Melbourne. I'm not sure of the demographics of the Melbourne football sporting landscape, but maybe a re-location to the Eastern or Western Suburbs would be idea.
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Heineken wrote:zander wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Heineken wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Heineken wrote:Erebus wrote:I hope the FFA is paying attention and don't try and sanitise football. Let's hope we aren't saying the same things in 20 years time. Yeah, I can't see Sydney FC and Western Sydney sharing ANZ Stadium anytime soon. Mind you, both Melbourne clubs pretty much share the same home ground.... Yeah we do, sort of, but in 5-10 years maybe City will be playing at Etihad Stadium and leaving an upgraded AAMI Park for us.. Well I can only hope. In 5-10 years time, won't the AFL have full control of Ethad? And they will go about systematically blocking any sport that isn't AFL, and maybe perhaps the odd Cricket 20-20? I still maintain, I think it's only matter of time before Melbourne Citeart will have to seriously look at relocation within Melbourne or Victoria. I honestly think it's the only way that club is going to grow. 2 teams that locate themselves in the heart (pardon the pun) of Melbourne isn't going to work out in the long scheme of things. That's my impression anyway. Yeah I think you're right. Would be better anyway. We move to AAMI, and City relocate to somewhere just out of Melbourne, whether it be Western or Eastern suburbs and build their own stadium out there. 30,000 seater just like AAMI Park, I think they would flourish if that happened. They have the financially backing, would be a real statement to the fans. This is what I'm thinking. I can honestly see the City group in 3 or so years time thinking that they're not going to grow playing as "Not-Melbbourne-Victory". They can still call themselves Melbourne City, but they should aim to re-locate to another part of Melbourne. I'm not sure of the demographics of the Melbourne football sporting landscape, but maybe a re-location to the Eastern or Western Suburbs would be idea. Oh look its Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini deciding whats best for Europe.
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scott21 wrote:GrandPappyOfFunk wrote:connaust wrote:Of AFL supporters, if you ignore the media and noisy nutters, most are at minimum benign re. A-League and football, many support both codes, some actively. This. Ffs. The two groups are not mutually exclusive of each other. I support Adelaide United and I support Geelong, always have and always will. I don't feel the need to constantly bag the crap out of one code to feel better about the other and I enjoy them both. The fact that they are barely played at the same time makes it even more irrelevant to me. Although the media and a minority of AFL supporters are vocal and defensive about the A-League taking over I can't complain about it when I read threads like this and witness exactly the same thing from Football supporters. I disagree it's fine from the fans. It's the media that needs to be mutual . Watch this from 3 "sports" journalists. The Qld goes out of his way to pronance the league wrong after he says they were having "collective orgasms" and the Sydney guy the same except he just seems stupid instead of sinister. http://www.foxsports.com.au/video?v=press-box-acl_1227103970142&vc=264 The Sydney guy is a "sports journalist" who openly says he can't name anyone the Wanderers have beaten in the ACL. It always amazes me when people choose to display their ignorance like a badge of honour just to prove a relatively pedestrian point.
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stefcep wrote:Heineken wrote:zander wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Heineken wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Heineken wrote:Erebus wrote:I hope the FFA is paying attention and don't try and sanitise football. Let's hope we aren't saying the same things in 20 years time. Yeah, I can't see Sydney FC and Western Sydney sharing ANZ Stadium anytime soon. Mind you, both Melbourne clubs pretty much share the same home ground.... Yeah we do, sort of, but in 5-10 years maybe City will be playing at Etihad Stadium and leaving an upgraded AAMI Park for us.. Well I can only hope. In 5-10 years time, won't the AFL have full control of Ethad? And they will go about systematically blocking any sport that isn't AFL, and maybe perhaps the odd Cricket 20-20? I still maintain, I think it's only matter of time before Melbourne Citeart will have to seriously look at relocation within Melbourne or Victoria. I honestly think it's the only way that club is going to grow. 2 teams that locate themselves in the heart (pardon the pun) of Melbourne isn't going to work out in the long scheme of things. That's my impression anyway. Yeah I think you're right. Would be better anyway. We move to AAMI, and City relocate to somewhere just out of Melbourne, whether it be Western or Eastern suburbs and build their own stadium out there. 30,000 seater just like AAMI Park, I think they would flourish if that happened. They have the financially backing, would be a real statement to the fans. This is what I'm thinking. I can honestly see the City group in 3 or so years time thinking that they're not going to grow playing as "Not-Melbbourne-Victory". They can still call themselves Melbourne City, but they should aim to re-locate to another part of Melbourne. I'm not sure of the demographics of the Melbourne football sporting landscape, but maybe a re-location to the Eastern or Western Suburbs would be idea. Oh look its Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini deciding whats best for Europe. :lol:
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Heineken wrote:zander wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Heineken wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:Heineken wrote:Erebus wrote:I hope the FFA is paying attention and don't try and sanitise football. Let's hope we aren't saying the same things in 20 years time. Yeah, I can't see Sydney FC and Western Sydney sharing ANZ Stadium anytime soon. Mind you, both Melbourne clubs pretty much share the same home ground.... Yeah we do, sort of, but in 5-10 years maybe City will be playing at Etihad Stadium and leaving an upgraded AAMI Park for us.. Well I can only hope. In 5-10 years time, won't the AFL have full control of Ethad? And they will go about systematically blocking any sport that isn't AFL, and maybe perhaps the odd Cricket 20-20? I still maintain, I think it's only matter of time before Melbourne Citeart will have to seriously look at relocation within Melbourne or Victoria. I honestly think it's the only way that club is going to grow. 2 teams that locate themselves in the heart (pardon the pun) of Melbourne isn't going to work out in the long scheme of things. That's my impression anyway. Yeah I think you're right. Would be better anyway. We move to AAMI, and City relocate to somewhere just out of Melbourne, whether it be Western or Eastern suburbs and build their own stadium out there. 30,000 seater just like AAMI Park, I think they would flourish if that happened. They have the financially backing, would be a real statement to the fans. This is what I'm thinking. I can honestly see the City group in 3 or so years time thinking that they're not going to grow playing as "Not-Melbbourne-Victory". They can still call themselves Melbourne City, but they should aim to re-locate to another part of Melbourne. I'm not sure of the demographics of the Melbourne football sporting landscape, but maybe a re-location to the Eastern or Western Suburbs would be idea. Sure, finding land that's close to public transport and road connections is simple and all. We'll knock down what's left of Victoria Park, easy! Seriously though the only half decent area would be E-Gate with a footbridge to North Melbourne, and even then the only reason a new stadium would be built there would be in Etihad locked out football so a new 60,000 seat stadium was needed.
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This is Straya, as an egalitarian society all sports are played & can coexist despite the frothing delusions from both codes rabid dipshit supporters.
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There was a piece on the Fox Sports website this morning about GWS and their progress in Western Sydney. Gillon McLachlan pressing the flesh at local schools etc. He must've been asked how he perceived the success of WSW v. the struggle of GWS. He seemed to say that he was happy about the success of the Wanderers and saw it as a positive, because it gave hope to GWS. Then: Gillon McLachlan wrote:If GWS could collaborate and partner with the Wanderers that would be fantastic Sleeping with the enemy?
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