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Quote:What do you think of when you hear the name Colonel Gaddafi? Tyrant? Dictator? Terrorist? Well, a national citizen of Libya may disagree but we want you to decide. For 41 years until his demise in October 2011, Muammar Gaddafi did some truly amazing things for his country and repeatedly tried to unite and empower the whole of Africa. So despite what you’ve heard on the radio, seen in the media or on the TV, Gaddafi did some powerful things that are not characteristic of a “vicious dictator” as portrayed by the western media. Here are ten things Gaddafi did for Libya that you may not know about… Muammar Gaddafi Libya 1. In Libya a home is considered a natural human right In Gaddafi’s Green Book it states: ”The house is a basic need of both the individual and the family, therefore it should not be owned by others”. Gaddafi’s Green Book is the formal leader’s political philosophy, it was first published in 1975 and was intended reading for all Libyans even being included in the national curriculum. 2. Education and medical treatment were all free Under Gaddafi, Libya could boast one of the best healthcare services in the Middle East and Africa. Also if a Libyan citizen could not access the desired educational course or correct medical treatment in Libya they were funded to go abroad. 3. Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project The largest irrigation system in the world also known as the great manmade river was designed to make water readily available to all Libyan’s across the entire country. It was funded by the Gaddafi government and it said that Gaddafi himself called it ”the eighth wonder of the world”.  4. It was free to start a farming business If any Libyan wanted to start a farm they were given a house, farm land and live stock and seeds all free of charge. 5. A bursary was given to mothers with newborn babies When a Libyan woman gave birth she was given 5000 (US dollars) for herself and the child. 6. Electricity was free Electricity was free in Libya meaning absolutely no electric bills! 7. Cheap petrol During Gaddafi’s reign the price of petrol in Libya was as low as 0.14 (US dollars) per litre. 8. Gaddafi raised the level of education Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans were literate. This figure was brought up to 87% with 25% earning university degrees. 9. Libya had It’s own state bank Libya had its own State bank, which provided loans to citizens at zero percent interest by law and they had no external debt. 10. The gold dinar Before the fall of Tripoli and his untimely demise, Gaddafi was trying to introduce a single African currency linked to gold. Following in the foot steps of the late great pioneer Marcus Garvey who first coined the term ”United States of Africa”. Gaddafi wanted to introduce and only trade in the African gold Dinar – a move which would have thrown the world economy into chaos. The Dinar was widely opposed by the ‘elite’ of today’s society and who could blame them. African nations would have finally had the power to bring itself out of debt and poverty and only trade in this precious commodity. They would have been able to finally say ‘no’ to external exploitation and charge whatever they felt suitable for precious resources. It has been said that the gold Dinar was the real reason for the NATO led rebellion, in a bid to oust the outspoken leader. So, was Muammar Gaddafi a Terrorist? Few can answer this question fairly, but if anyone can, it’s a Libyan citizen who has lived under his reign? Whatever the case, it seems rather apparent that he did some positive things for his country despite the infamous notoriety surrounding his name. And that’s something you should try to remember when judging in future. This quirky video documentary spells out an interesting, if rather different, story from the one we think we know. [youtube]TkTUDw0mjMA[/youtube] http://www.globalresearch.ca/libya-ten-things-about-gaddafi-they-dont-want-you-to-know/5414289 -PB
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Slobodan Drauposevic
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Highly recommend everyone to read The Green Book.
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Benjamin
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A similar list could be produced for Hitler - amazing the good you can do with your right hand, whilst you left is killing people left right and center.
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ricecrackers
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i wonder what supreme leader Obama has done with his right hand
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Benjamin
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ricecrackers wrote:i wonder what supreme leader Obama has done with his right hand Same as most US Presidents I would suspect.
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paulbagzFC
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ricecrackers wrote:i wonder what supreme leader Obama has done with his right hand Wtf?  Predator Drone strikes of course. What a silly statement to make. -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:ricecrackers wrote:i wonder what supreme leader Obama has done with his right hand Wtf? Predator Drone strikes of course. What a silly statement to make. -PB left hand
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ricecrackers wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:ricecrackers wrote:i wonder what supreme leader Obama has done with his right hand Wtf? Predator Drone strikes of course. What a silly statement to make. -PB left hand No that's the right hand. That's the good stuff he's done. Geez learn to comprehend man. -PB
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Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:i wonder what supreme leader Obama has done with his right hand Same as most US Presidents I would suspect. so he gets a free pass then, ok
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ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:i wonder what supreme leader Obama has done with his right hand Same as most US Presidents I would suspect. so he gets a free pass then, ok If I post up a list of the great things Obama has achieved, feel free to rebut with the fact that he's responsible for thousands of dead and a heap of debt that will ruin many lives... However, on this occasion, someone popped up a list of nice things Gaddafi did for his people (or believed should be done for his people), so I felt compelled to point out that Gaddafi was a murderous c*nt.
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Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:i wonder what supreme leader Obama has done with his right hand Same as most US Presidents I would suspect. so he gets a free pass then, ok If I post up a list of the great things Obama has achieved, feel free to rebut with the fact that he's responsible for thousands of dead and a heap of debt that will ruin many lives... However, on this occasion, someone popped up a list of nice things Gaddafi did for his people (or believed should be done for his people), so I felt compelled to point out that Gaddafi was a murderous c*nt. so you think Libya is now better off for his absence since it was liberated by Obama and Gaddafi was murdered by the mercenaries paid for by the US led kinetic action?
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ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:i wonder what supreme leader Obama has done with his right hand Same as most US Presidents I would suspect. so he gets a free pass then, ok If I post up a list of the great things Obama has achieved, feel free to rebut with the fact that he's responsible for thousands of dead and a heap of debt that will ruin many lives... However, on this occasion, someone popped up a list of nice things Gaddafi did for his people (or believed should be done for his people), so I felt compelled to point out that Gaddafi was a murderous c*nt. so you think Libya is now better off for his absence since it was liberated by Obama and Gaddafi was murdered by the mercenaries paid for by the US led kinetic action? I think the world is a better place without Gaddafi in it.
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Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:i wonder what supreme leader Obama has done with his right hand Same as most US Presidents I would suspect. so he gets a free pass then, ok If I post up a list of the great things Obama has achieved, feel free to rebut with the fact that he's responsible for thousands of dead and a heap of debt that will ruin many lives... However, on this occasion, someone popped up a list of nice things Gaddafi did for his people (or believed should be done for his people), so I felt compelled to point out that Gaddafi was a murderous c*nt. so you think Libya is now better off for his absence since it was liberated by Obama and Gaddafi was murdered by the mercenaries paid for by the US led kinetic action? I think the world is a better place without Gaddafi in it. ok. so islamic militants now running riot all over north africa and flooding into Syria and Iraq which has occurred since Gaddafi was murdered is part of making the world a better place is it... ok
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Religious zealots existed long before Gaddafi, existed during his reign, and will continue to exist long after we are gone. Getting rid of Gaddafi wasn't the problem, the entire attitude toward the region is the problem.
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Benjamin wrote:Religious zealots existed long before Gaddafi, existed during his reign, and will continue to exist long after we are gone. Getting rid of Gaddafi wasn't the problem, the entire attitude toward the region is the problem. Gaddafi kept them in check in his country now its a staging ground for ISIS training the place is now a failed state and you talk about 'attitude'
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ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:Religious zealots existed long before Gaddafi, existed during his reign, and will continue to exist long after we are gone. Getting rid of Gaddafi wasn't the problem, the entire attitude toward the region is the problem. Gaddafi kept them in check in his country now its a staging ground for ISIS training the place is now a failed state and you talk about 'attitude' Libya was a staging post of IRA training throughout the 70s and 80s - and Gaddafi loved them, visited them in person, encouraged them to strike down at their oppressors, etc. Different leaders now, different terrorists.
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Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:Religious zealots existed long before Gaddafi, existed during his reign, and will continue to exist long after we are gone. Getting rid of Gaddafi wasn't the problem, the entire attitude toward the region is the problem. Gaddafi kept them in check in his country now its a staging ground for ISIS training the place is now a failed state and you talk about 'attitude' Libya was a staging post of IRA training throughout the 70s and 80s - and Gaddafi loved them, visited them in person, encouraged them to strike down at their oppressors, etc. Different leaders now, different terrorists. how is that even relevant when it was stopped 25 years ago under Gaddafi?
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Erm... Perhaps because a lot of innocent people died as a result of him actively supporting and supplying the IRA - and perhaps, just maybe, because the blood is still on his hands whether he belatedly changes his mind about his support or not. Those people didn't just suddenly come back to life once he decided that playing nice may be a better option.
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Benjamin wrote:Erm... Perhaps because a lot of innocent people died as a result of him actively supporting and supplying the IRA - and perhaps, just maybe, because the blood is still on his hands whether he belatedly changes his mind about his support or not. Those people didn't just suddenly come back to life once he decided that playing nice may be a better option. what about the blood on the hands of Tony Blair and a million dead Iraqis? and every US president since? you seem to have this idealistic view on things, what of all the innocents that have died as a direct result of the kinetic action in Libya? thats ok, they're just brown people in the desert right... as long as you can exact revenge on someone who you say had blood on his hands because he supported one side in a war 25 years ago....damn the consequences of the vacuum it created
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Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is.
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ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:Erm... Perhaps because a lot of innocent people died as a result of him actively supporting and supplying the IRA - and perhaps, just maybe, because the blood is still on his hands whether he belatedly changes his mind about his support or not. Those people didn't just suddenly come back to life once he decided that playing nice may be a better option. what about the blood on the hands of Tony Blair and a million dead Iraqis? and every US president since? you seem to have this idealistic view on things, what of all the innocents that have died as a direct result of the kinetic action in Libya? thats ok, they're just brown people in the desert right... as long as you can exact revenge on someone who you say had blood on his hands because he supported one side in a war 25 years ago....damn the consequences of the vacuum it created Once again, you jump to conclusions about my political beliefs. I'm struggling to think of an occasion that I have exonerated Tony Blair, or Margaret Thatcher, or any other political leader for the deaths of innocent people that they have supported. But hey, I see you have no problem with supporting those who support terrorism on one hand, so long as it keeps another bunch of terrorists temporarily in their place.
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humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right
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humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. Crackers is the textbook example of 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' - he will support anyone who stands up to America - and no doubt he'll tell us that his extensive research on all these matters has brought him to a conclusive position which he will not change - no matter what evidence is put infront of him, because all that evidence has no doubt been cooked up by America or their lackies.
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ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right Sooner or later every conspiracy theorist comes back to the Zionist stance. Clockwork.
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Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right Sooner or later every conspiracy theorist comes back to the Zionist stance. Clockwork. +1. Dem jews control everything.
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ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right At what point have I said anything about my position vis a vis the Islamic state?
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humbert wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right Sooner or later every conspiracy theorist comes back to the Zionist stance. Clockwork. +1. Dem jews control everything. what do jews have to do with zionism?
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humbert wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right At what point have I said anything about my position vis a vis the Islamic state? context the vacuum of killing Gaddafi has allowed the Islamic State to flourish
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Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right Sooner or later every conspiracy theorist comes back to the Zionist stance. Clockwork. sooner or later every zionist comes back to the conspiracy theorist stance. clockwork
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Benjamin wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. Crackers is the textbook example of 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' - he will support anyone who stands up to America - and no doubt he'll tell us that his extensive research on all these matters has brought him to a conclusive position which he will not change - no matter what evidence is put infront of him, because all that evidence has no doubt been cooked up by America or their lackies. what part of "Thou shalt not kill" dont you understand? because you openly have supported the killing of Gaddafi, and how did that turn out for you?
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ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. Crackers is the textbook example of 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' - he will support anyone who stands up to America - and no doubt he'll tell us that his extensive research on all these matters has brought him to a conclusive position which he will not change - no matter what evidence is put infront of him, because all that evidence has no doubt been cooked up by America or their lackies. what part of "Thou shalt not kill" dont you understand? because you openly have supported the killing of Gaddafi, and how did that turn out for you? "Thou shalt not kill" is a religious commandment - as I don't have any tolerance for religion, quoting the Bible is lost on me.
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ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right Sooner or later every conspiracy theorist comes back to the Zionist stance. Clockwork. +1. Dem jews control everything. what do jews have to do with zionism? Your definition of Zionism is obviously very different to the official one... Without knowing which crackpot theory you are about to espouse next it's impossible for me to answer your question in a manner you would accept. However, if we go by the regular definition that Zionism is a movement of the Jews to support the establishment and strengthening of the Jewish homeland, I would argue that it's got more than a little to do with Jews. I'll sit back now and wait for you to tell me what the true definition of Zionism is, and in particular how it doesn't have anything to do with Jews.
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Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. Crackers is the textbook example of 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' - he will support anyone who stands up to America - and no doubt he'll tell us that his extensive research on all these matters has brought him to a conclusive position which he will not change - no matter what evidence is put infront of him, because all that evidence has no doubt been cooked up by America or their lackies. what part of "Thou shalt not kill" dont you understand? because you openly have supported the killing of Gaddafi, and how did that turn out for you? "Thou shalt not kill" is a religious commandment - as I don't have any tolerance for religion, quoting the Bible is lost on me. its also the law, i hate to break it to you
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Well played, PB.
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Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right Sooner or later every conspiracy theorist comes back to the Zionist stance. Clockwork. +1. Dem jews control everything. what do jews have to do with zionism? Your definition of Zionism is obviously very different to the official one... Without knowing which crackpot theory you are about to espouse next it's impossible for me to answer your question in a manner you would accept. However, if we go by the regular definition that Zionism is a movement of the Jews to support the establishment and strengthening of the Jewish homeland, I would argue that it's got more than a little to do with Jews. I'll sit back now and wait for you to tell me what the true definition of Zionism is, and in particular how it doesn't have anything to do with Jews. unless I'm mistaken, I'm quite sure I didnt ask you but thanks for your wikipedia researched input you make a lot of assumptions about me. you know very little, my initial comment was directed at humbert because i know where he reads a lot of his news and where his allegiances lay. I also know that Israel has a preference to supporting insurrections against neighboring dictators. you decided to take the discussion in the direction of zionism to isolate your target from sympathy and argue against what you consider to be abhorrent... the crazy anti semite conspiracy nut... because that's all you understand from your daily diet of The Guardian dribble
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Draupnir wrote:ricecrackers wrote:what do jews have to do with zionism? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: racist
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ricecrackers wrote:Draupnir wrote:ricecrackers wrote:what do jews have to do with zionism? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: racist Please find me any source that doesn't connect Zionism to Jews. Any.
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Draupnir wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Draupnir wrote:ricecrackers wrote:what do jews have to do with zionism? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: racist Please find me any source that doesn't connect Zionism to Jews. Any. read the thread again dimwit, maybe your comprehension of what has taken place will improve on second or third viewing
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It's a simple question mate. One source that claims no link between Zionism and Jews.
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Draupnir wrote:It's a simple question mate. One source that claims no link between Zionism and Jews. I never made that claim, your question is irrelevant as are you to this discussion
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ricecrackers wrote:Draupnir wrote:It's a simple question mate. One source that claims no link between Zionism and Jews. I never made that claim, your question is irrelevant as are you to this discussion ricecrackers wrote:what do jews have to do with zionism? Suppose you were just asking for an essay. On your bike.
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Draupnir wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Draupnir wrote:It's a simple question mate. One source that claims no link between Zionism and Jews. I never made that claim, your question is irrelevant as are you to this discussion ricecrackers wrote:what do jews have to do with zionism? Suppose you were just asking for an essay. On your bike. i was asking a particular member in a particular context, not dear old butthurt you, so jog on
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EDIT: not on - pv4 Edited by pv4: 17/11/2014 09:53:19 PM
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ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:i wonder what supreme leader Obama has done with his right hand Same as most US Presidents I would suspect. so he gets a free pass then, ok If I post up a list of the great things Obama has achieved, feel free to rebut with the fact that he's responsible for thousands of dead and a heap of debt that will ruin many lives... However, on this occasion, someone popped up a list of nice things Gaddafi did for his people (or believed should be done for his people), so I felt compelled to point out that Gaddafi was a murderous c*nt. so you think Libya is now better off for his absence since it was liberated by Obama and Gaddafi was murdered by the mercenaries paid for by the US led kinetic action? I think the world is a better place without Gaddafi in it. ok. so islamic militants now running riot all over north africa and flooding into Syria and Iraq which has occurred since Gaddafi was murdered is part of making the world a better place is it... ok Its a lesser of 2 evils....Islamic State or Ghaddafi,Ehud Barak,Saddam Hussein,Assad. I preferred the latter.
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SocaWho wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:i wonder what supreme leader Obama has done with his right hand Same as most US Presidents I would suspect. so he gets a free pass then, ok If I post up a list of the great things Obama has achieved, feel free to rebut with the fact that he's responsible for thousands of dead and a heap of debt that will ruin many lives... However, on this occasion, someone popped up a list of nice things Gaddafi did for his people (or believed should be done for his people), so I felt compelled to point out that Gaddafi was a murderous c*nt. so you think Libya is now better off for his absence since it was liberated by Obama and Gaddafi was murdered by the mercenaries paid for by the US led kinetic action? I think the world is a better place without Gaddafi in it. ok. so islamic militants now running riot all over north africa and flooding into Syria and Iraq which has occurred since Gaddafi was murdered is part of making the world a better place is it... ok Its a lesser of 2 evils....Islamic State or Ghaddafi,Ehud Barak,Saddam Hussein,Assad. I preferred the latter. the latter in your sentence or the latter in chronology?
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ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right At what point have I said anything about my position vis a vis the Islamic state? context the vacuum of killing Gaddafi has allowed the Islamic State to flourish And the knocking off of Sadam Hussein. He was a bastard but he kept the mad bastards in his country from cutting each others throats. Tito was a bit the same.
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u4486662 wrote:ET delivering once again. Its not an ET thread till ricey gets amongst it
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Munrubenmuz wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right At what point have I said anything about my position vis a vis the Islamic state? context the vacuum of killing Gaddafi has allowed the Islamic State to flourish And the knocking off of Sadam Hussein. He was a bastard but he kept the mad bastards in his country from cutting each others throats. Tito was a bit the same. and Assad who now has to contend with Islamists flying in from all over the world which for some reason the greatest military force the world has ever seen (and its allies) seem unable or unwilling to stop
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Note I am not saying Saddam Hussein was a top bloke just that he kept his house in order. How he did so is, of course, was the problem.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:Note I am not saying Saddam Hussein was a top bloke just that he kept his house in order.
How he did so is, of course, was the problem. he was our guy originally
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ricecrackers wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:Note I am not saying Saddam Hussein was a top bloke just that he kept his house in order.
How he did so is, of course, was the problem. he was our guy originally As a buffer against Iran. Yes, yes, Americans poking their nose in again.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:Note I am not saying Saddam Hussein was a top bloke just that he kept his house in order.
How he did so is, of course, was the problem. he was our guy originally As a buffer against Iran. Yes, yes, Americans poking their nose in again. and the pretext to both of the Bush Iraq wars was falsified
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ricecrackers wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right At what point have I said anything about my position vis a vis the Islamic state? context the vacuum of killing Gaddafi has allowed the Islamic State to flourish And the knocking off of Sadam Hussein. He was a bastard but he kept the mad bastards in his country from cutting each others throats. Tito was a bit the same. and Assad who now has to contend with Islamists flying in from all over the world which for some reason the greatest military force the world has ever seen (and its allies) seem unable or unwilling to stop That's precisely why he emptied Syria's prisons of its jihadists at the precise moment when the nationalist opposition was strongest. Or why he then proceeded to buy oil from ISIS. A third rate scumbag and his enablers, such as yourself.
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ricecrackers wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:Note I am not saying Saddam Hussein was a top bloke just that he kept his house in order.
How he did so is, of course, was the problem. he was our guy originally As a buffer against Iran. Yes, yes, Americans poking their nose in again. and the pretext to both of the Bush Iraq wars was falsified I take it Saddam didn't order the invasion and annexation of Kuwait then? Must have been propaganda, I'm sure.
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humbert wrote:
I take it Saddam didn't order the invasion and annexation of Kuwait then? Must have been propaganda, I'm sure.
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humbert wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:Note I am not saying Saddam Hussein was a top bloke just that he kept his house in order.
How he did so is, of course, was the problem. he was our guy originally As a buffer against Iran. Yes, yes, Americans poking their nose in again. and the pretext to both of the Bush Iraq wars was falsified I take it Saddam didn't order the invasion and annexation of Kuwait then? Must have been propaganda, I'm sure. he did invade Kuwait, but the pretext for the US led intervention was falsified
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humbert wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Munrubenmuz wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right At what point have I said anything about my position vis a vis the Islamic state? context the vacuum of killing Gaddafi has allowed the Islamic State to flourish And the knocking off of Sadam Hussein. He was a bastard but he kept the mad bastards in his country from cutting each others throats. Tito was a bit the same. and Assad who now has to contend with Islamists flying in from all over the world which for some reason the greatest military force the world has ever seen (and its allies) seem unable or unwilling to stop That's precisely why he emptied Syria's prisons of its jihadists at the precise moment when the nationalist opposition was strongest. Or why he then proceeded to buy oil from ISIS. [size=8]A third rate scumbag and his enablers, such as yourself[/size]. your fantastical version of events is a little biased to say the least as for your personal words, quite harsh shame on you
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read up on the Nayirah testimony humbert and go and eat some humble ham and cheese pie fuckwit
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Off topic, why did you get rid of your Lyon avatar Ricey?That was you right?
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ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right Sooner or later every conspiracy theorist comes back to the Zionist stance. Clockwork. +1. Dem jews control everything. what do jews have to do with zionism? Your definition of Zionism is obviously very different to the official one... Without knowing which crackpot theory you are about to espouse next it's impossible for me to answer your question in a manner you would accept. However, if we go by the regular definition that Zionism is a movement of the Jews to support the establishment and strengthening of the Jewish homeland, I would argue that it's got more than a little to do with Jews. I'll sit back now and wait for you to tell me what the true definition of Zionism is, and in particular how it doesn't have anything to do with Jews. unless I'm mistaken, I'm quite sure I didnt ask you but thanks for your wikipedia researched input you make a lot of assumptions about me. you know very little, my initial comment was directed at humbert because i know where he reads a lot of his news and where his allegiances lay. I also know that Israel has a preference to supporting insurrections against neighboring dictators. you decided to take the discussion in the direction of zionism to isolate your target from sympathy and argue against what you consider to be abhorrent... the crazy anti semite conspiracy nut... because that's all you understand from your daily diet of The Guardian dribble So that would be you completely failing to answer the question..? ricecrackers wrote:Draupnir wrote:It's a simple question mate. One source that claims no link between Zionism and Jews. I never made that claim, your question is irrelevant as are you to this discussion That awkward moment... ricecrackers wrote:what do jews have to do with zionism?
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Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right Sooner or later every conspiracy theorist comes back to the Zionist stance. Clockwork. +1. Dem jews control everything. what do jews have to do with zionism? Your definition of Zionism is obviously very different to the official one... Without knowing which crackpot theory you are about to espouse next it's impossible for me to answer your question in a manner you would accept. However, if we go by the regular definition that Zionism is a movement of the Jews to support the establishment and strengthening of the Jewish homeland, I would argue that it's got more than a little to do with Jews. I'll sit back now and wait for you to tell me what the true definition of Zionism is, and in particular how it doesn't have anything to do with Jews. unless I'm mistaken, I'm quite sure I didnt ask you but thanks for your wikipedia researched input you make a lot of assumptions about me. you know very little, my initial comment was directed at humbert because i know where he reads a lot of his news and where his allegiances lay. I also know that Israel has a preference to supporting insurrections against neighboring dictators. you decided to take the discussion in the direction of zionism to isolate your target from sympathy and argue against what you consider to be abhorrent... the crazy anti semite conspiracy nut... because that's all you understand from your daily diet of The Guardian dribble So that would be you completely failing to answer the question..? ricecrackers wrote:Draupnir wrote:It's a simple question mate. One source that claims no link between Zionism and Jews. I never made that claim, your question is irrelevant as are you to this discussion That awkward moment... ricecrackers wrote:what do jews have to do with zionism? comprehension is not your strong suit is it
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ricecrackers wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:ricecrackers wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Absent_doz_2259 wrote:Where do you find the time? Ricecrackers is unemployed. -PB paulbagzFC Joined: 9/27/2010 Posts: 24,393 Location: Superior NQ Por que? -PB (Where do you find the time?) no I'm not interested in your answer Well I work in a fish and chip shop so I have plenty of time. However my posting habits have nothing to do with your lack of employment :lol: -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:ricecrackers wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:ricecrackers wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Absent_doz_2259 wrote:Where do you find the time? Ricecrackers is unemployed. -PB paulbagzFC Joined: 9/27/2010 Posts: 24,393 Location: Superior NQ Por que? -PB (Where do you find the time?) no I'm not interested in your answer Well I work in a fish and chip shop so I have plenty of time. However my posting habits have nothing to do with your lack of employment :lol: -PB It looks to me like you're projecting your own predicament onto others thats not my problem
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ricecrackers wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:ricecrackers wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:ricecrackers wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Absent_doz_2259 wrote:Where do you find the time? Ricecrackers is unemployed. -PB paulbagzFC Joined: 9/27/2010 Posts: 24,393 Location: Superior NQ Por que? -PB (Where do you find the time?) no I'm not interested in your answer Well I work in a fish and chip shop so I have plenty of time. However my posting habits have nothing to do with your lack of employment :lol: -PB It looks to me like you're projecting your own predicament onto others thats not my problem What predicament? I have no predicament. I love the smell of fish and chips and the hours are great. No, your problem is that you clearly don't have a job :lol: -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:ricecrackers wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:ricecrackers wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:ricecrackers wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Absent_doz_2259 wrote:Where do you find the time? Ricecrackers is unemployed. -PB paulbagzFC Joined: 9/27/2010 Posts: 24,393 Location: Superior NQ Por que? -PB (Where do you find the time?) no I'm not interested in your answer Well I work in a fish and chip shop so I have plenty of time. However my posting habits have nothing to do with your lack of employment :lol: -PB It looks to me like you're projecting your own predicament onto others thats not my problem What predicament? I have no predicament. I love the smell of fish and chips and the hours are great. No, your problem is that you clearly don't have a job :lol: -PB I think that's your problem , not mine
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Tl;dr - back on topic pls pals.
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pv4 wrote:Tl;dr - back on topic pls pals. No worries. Gaddafi and ricey do have a lot in common; both jobless. -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:pv4 wrote:Tl;dr - back on topic pls pals. No worries. Gaddafi and ricey do have a lot in common; both jobless. -PB I own a business by the way, which is none of your business keep spamming your burn throughout the forum though you pleb
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paulbagzFC wrote:pv4 wrote:Tl;dr - back on topic pls pals. No worries. Gaddafi and ricey do have a lot in common; both jobless. -PB I think I know where you are going with this.:lol: You wish they had a lot more in common than just being jobless.:lol: Edited by SocaWho: 18/11/2014 11:49:15 AM
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pv4 wrote:Tl;dr - back on topic pls pals. they seem to be slow learners or just slow...
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ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right Sooner or later every conspiracy theorist comes back to the Zionist stance. Clockwork. +1. Dem jews control everything. what do jews have to do with zionism? Your definition of Zionism is obviously very different to the official one... Without knowing which crackpot theory you are about to espouse next it's impossible for me to answer your question in a manner you would accept. However, if we go by the regular definition that Zionism is a movement of the Jews to support the establishment and strengthening of the Jewish homeland, I would argue that it's got more than a little to do with Jews. I'll sit back now and wait for you to tell me what the true definition of Zionism is, and in particular how it doesn't have anything to do with Jews. unless I'm mistaken, I'm quite sure I didnt ask you but thanks for your wikipedia researched input you make a lot of assumptions about me. you know very little, my initial comment was directed at humbert because i know where he reads a lot of his news and where his allegiances lay. I also know that Israel has a preference to supporting insurrections against neighboring dictators. you decided to take the discussion in the direction of zionism to isolate your target from sympathy and argue against what you consider to be abhorrent... the crazy anti semite conspiracy nut... because that's all you understand from your daily diet of The Guardian dribble So that would be you completely failing to answer the question..? ricecrackers wrote:Draupnir wrote:It's a simple question mate. One source that claims no link between Zionism and Jews. I never made that claim, your question is irrelevant as are you to this discussion That awkward moment... ricecrackers wrote:what do jews have to do with zionism? comprehension is not your strong suit is it Evidently not. If only there was a clever person around to explain your comments to me, because all I see is an ocean of bullshit without an island of sanity for respite.
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Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Benjamin wrote:ricecrackers wrote:humbert wrote:Vintage rc. Not yet encountered a dictator he didn't slobber over.
"Rivers of blood" Gaddafi it is. I'm no particular fan of Gaddafi however he provided an iron fisted buffer against far worse evils as a number of the dictators in the region have done but if you're satisfied with the Islamic State running rampant through north africa and the middle east and sending them back to the middle ages then who am I to question your motives perhaps it all serves the interests of Israel in the end right Sooner or later every conspiracy theorist comes back to the Zionist stance. Clockwork. +1. Dem jews control everything. what do jews have to do with zionism? Your definition of Zionism is obviously very different to the official one... Without knowing which crackpot theory you are about to espouse next it's impossible for me to answer your question in a manner you would accept. However, if we go by the regular definition that Zionism is a movement of the Jews to support the establishment and strengthening of the Jewish homeland, I would argue that it's got more than a little to do with Jews. I'll sit back now and wait for you to tell me what the true definition of Zionism is, and in particular how it doesn't have anything to do with Jews. unless I'm mistaken, I'm quite sure I didnt ask you but thanks for your wikipedia researched input you make a lot of assumptions about me. you know very little, my initial comment was directed at humbert because i know where he reads a lot of his news and where his allegiances lay. I also know that Israel has a preference to supporting insurrections against neighboring dictators. you decided to take the discussion in the direction of zionism to isolate your target from sympathy and argue against what you consider to be abhorrent... the crazy anti semite conspiracy nut... because that's all you understand from your daily diet of The Guardian dribble So that would be you completely failing to answer the question..? ricecrackers wrote:Draupnir wrote:It's a simple question mate. One source that claims no link between Zionism and Jews. I never made that claim, your question is irrelevant as are you to this discussion That awkward moment... ricecrackers wrote:what do jews have to do with zionism? comprehension is not your strong suit is it Evidently not. If only there was a clever person around to explain your comments to me, because all I see is an ocean of bullshit without an island of sanity for respite. if I wanted to ask you that question, I would've asked youbut I didnt, capisce? your morally deficient attitude to foreign policy (and many things) has been put on show for all to see and you have the temerity to cast slurs upon others FYI zionism is not judaism, I wanted to hear the response from a jew hence why I asked a jew
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ricecrackers wrote:if I wanted to ask you that question, I would've asked you
but I didnt, capisce?
your morally deficient attitude to foreign policy (and many things) has been put on show for all to see and you have the temerity to cast slurs upon others
FYI zionism is not judaism, I wanted to hear the response from a jew hence why I asked a jew Such a shame you chose to ask the question on an open forum in which a conversation was taking place between several parties. I'll seek your permission to answer questions in future. If it's morally deficient to be happy that a terrorist supporter responsible for the death of my countrymen, then I'm delighted to be morally deficient. And finally, whilst it wasn't a question directed at me - no one claimed Zionism is Judaism, only that your stance was clearly anti-Zionist. If you were trying to make the point that Zionism isn't Judaism then your question "What do Jews have to do with Zionism?" was, at the very least, poorly worded.
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