"Thou shalt not kill" is a religious commandment - as I don't have any tolerance for religion, quoting the Bible is lost on me.

Your definition of Zionism is obviously very different to the official one... Without knowing which crackpot theory you are about to espouse next it's impossible for me to answer your question in a manner you would accept. However, if we go by the regular definition that Zionism is a movement of the Jews to support the establishment and strengthening of the Jewish homeland, I would argue that it's got more than a little to do with Jews.

I'll sit back now and wait for you to tell me what the true definition of Zionism is, and in particular how it doesn't have anything to do with Jews.

its also the law, i hate to break it to you

Well played, PB.

unless I'm mistaken, I'm quite sure I didnt ask you
but thanks for your wikipedia researched input

you make a lot of assumptions about me. you know very little,

my initial comment was directed at humbert because i know where he reads a lot of his news and where his allegiances lay.
I also know that Israel has a preference to supporting insurrections against neighboring dictators.

you decided to take the discussion in the direction of zionism to isolate your target from sympathy and argue against what you consider to be abhorrent... the crazy anti semite conspiracy nut... because that's all you understand from your daily diet of The Guardian dribble

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racist

Please find me any source that doesn't connect Zionism to Jews. Any.

read the thread again dimwit, maybe your comprehension of what has taken place will improve on second or third viewing

It's a simple question mate. One source that claims no link between Zionism and Jews.

I never made that claim, your question is irrelevant as are you to this discussion

Suppose you were just asking for an essay. On your bike.

i was asking a particular member in a particular context, not dear old butthurt you, so jog on

EDIT: not on - pv4

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ET delivering once again.

Its a lesser of 2 evils....Islamic State or Ghaddafi,Ehud Barak,Saddam Hussein,Assad.

I preferred the latter.

the latter in your sentence or the latter in chronology?

And the knocking off of Sadam Hussein. He was a bastard but he kept the mad bastards in his country from cutting each others throats.

Tito was a bit the same.

Its not an ET thread till ricey gets amongst it

and Assad who now has to contend with Islamists flying in from all over the world which for some reason the greatest military force the world has ever seen (and its allies) seem unable or unwilling to stop

Note I am not saying Saddam Hussein was a top bloke just that he kept his house in order.

How he did so is, of course, was the problem.

he was our guy originally

As a buffer against Iran.

Yes, yes, Americans poking their nose in again.

and the pretext to both of the Bush Iraq wars was falsified

That's precisely why he emptied Syria's prisons of its jihadists at the precise moment when the nationalist opposition was strongest. Or why he then proceeded to buy oil from ISIS.

A third rate scumbag and his enablers, such as yourself.

I take it Saddam didn't order the invasion and annexation of Kuwait then? Must have been propaganda, I'm sure.

Fitted up for the 2nd go round though.

he did invade Kuwait, but the pretext for the US led intervention was falsified

your fantastical version of events is a little biased to say the least
as for your personal words, quite harsh

shame on you