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I once saw Terry Antonis juggle , big ball , tennis ball , squash ball. And looked around at all these amazing faces Wow. It was amazing.
Many years ago a young lad would travel 800 miles to attend Coerver in NSW, at the age of eleven before he joined EPL Club he juggled a size 4 ball 7711 times, a tennis ball 2467, a squash ball 1897 times. It improves both feet , concentration, touch, balance. But it's fun also. And Harry Kewell would juggle when down on confidence. Make it fun. And good to see you coaches are doing this, keep it up.
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pv4 wrote:I'm not sure if it is too advanced for whatever age/skill level you guys are teaching at.
But I noticed while the Jets were warming up on the weekend, that the subs did an interesting little drill.
Firstly, they played a rondo of 4v1. They did that for a while, then moved onto the next phase:
1 guy in the middle, 4 around him. Same rough setup as rondo. But a guy on the outside started, juggled it up, then juggle-passed it to the guy in the middle. Who then juggle-passed it to the next guy, and so on going around clockwise. The person stayed in the middle, so got the most touches. Whenever a guy on the outside stuffed up, he went in the middle. They were getting it to one touch each, but also doing variations of it. It seemed fun and very skillful. Thanks mate I have been looking for something like this. It sounds better than keeping ups.
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I'm not sure if it is too advanced for whatever age/skill level you guys are teaching at.
But I noticed while the Jets were warming up on the weekend, that the subs did an interesting little drill.
Firstly, they played a rondo of 4v1. They did that for a while, then moved onto the next phase:
1 guy in the middle, 4 around him. Same rough setup as rondo. But a guy on the outside started, juggled it up, then juggle-passed it to the guy in the middle. Who then juggle-passed it to the next guy, and so on going around clockwise. The person stayed in the middle, so got the most touches. Whenever a guy on the outside stuffed up, he went in the middle. They were getting it to one touch each, but also doing variations of it. It seemed fun and very skillful.
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New Drill
right foot roll over - left foot roll over- right foot pull back - tap behind left foot
then
left foot roll over- right foot roll over - left foot pull back - tap behind right foot
repeat over and over backwards for 8m
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Summer training is over.
18 extra training sessions 9 weeks and a fantastic result.
All about skill comfort on the ball added heal passing drawbacks with tap behind standing leg and cuts left right.
The weaker players are now very comfortable on the ball and the stronger players have really improved their left foot.
told the players not to touch the ball from 20/12/14 till 20/01/15 then train on their own till feb , then we will do 1-2 skills training sessions then training games against older and younger teams. weather permitting.
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Update
2 players on level 3- 1 on level 2
these three players are hitting a mannequin on the full at 15m and are increasing their dribbling speed.
the rest are not coming to training app 2-3 or improving quickly from a very low base with less than a year of football app 5.
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Krones3...I must say I'm impressed with your system. It's a great idea. Good work!
The other thing I discovered with practices like this is the little things that emerge. When I set my lads the task of only doing rondos prior to training it was amazing what developed. I just wanted them to stop mindlessly shooting the ball at goals but I got more than I bargained for :). The culture and mentality of the team took a subtle turn for the better. Things like the following came out:
1) Discipline improved & they started to self regulate their behaviour. They would start and run the rondos themselves. They looked forward to joining in and any stragglers made sure they got there early. They decided that late comers would be in the middle.
2) I initially encouraged them to have fun doing it and this quickly led to lots of great skills being used. The more technical players became sharper and those not so skilled started to grow in confidence.
3) It helped them develop a better touch under pressure and helped in their understanding of a possession based mentality. Even those who considered themselves not so good were able to hold the ball and move it reliably to their team mates.
4) It became their standard fun game before the official warm-up on game day.
5) Nut megs, passes splitting defenders and other "achievements" were welcomed with lots of laughter, whoops and cheering. If I joined in nutmegging or beating the coach was a prized goal.
6) Many times I saw their opposition eyeing them and wondering what was going on. Needless to say the lads were oblivious to this as they were just having too much fun.
If you guys have any other suggestions, like the Krone3's system or soccer-tennis, please let us know. I'll have to give the juggling system a go now :)
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Justafan wrote:krones3 wrote:I now have 2players on level 2 and 1 player on level 3.
These 3 players are running away with it in every other field as well.
They are also getting 20 left foot only and 40 left right foot and 5 headers. app
I tell you true the first 10 juggles are the hardest
100 is all about skill
500 is all about touch
2000 is all about concentration. Thanks Krones my 10 year old did not believe me it was all in one go. He has now taken up your challenge and reached level 1. I will be introducing something similar for my U11 team over summer. We have continued to train once a week since the end of the season as well. take a video they will all tell you that "it cant be done". Then you can play it back to them when they do it.
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krones3 wrote:I now have 2players on level 2 and 1 player on level 3.
These 3 players are running away with it in every other field as well.
They are also getting 20 left foot only and 40 left right foot and 5 headers. app
I tell you true the first 10 juggles are the hardest
100 is all about skill
500 is all about touch
2000 is all about concentration. Thanks Krones my 10 year old did not believe me it was all in one go. He has now taken up your challenge and reached level 1. I will be introducing something similar for my U11 team over summer. We have continued to train once a week since the end of the season as well.
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I now have 2players on level 2 and 1 player on level 3.
These 3 players are running away with it in every other field as well.
They are also getting 20 left foot only and 40 left right foot and 5 headers. app
I tell you true the first 10 juggles are the hardest
100 is all about skill
500 is all about touch
2000 is all about concentration.
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Justafan wrote:krones3 wrote:Just an update
U9-U10
I have continued Training until December 8th that gives me an extra 16 weeks twice a week for one hour at a session.
The session have no games only skill.
Step overs
twirls
hook turns
pull backs
roll overs
juggling 5min any foot all those who get 90 do 16 on left foot only and then left right 30 then headers 7
passing and shooting
dribbling
extra time and effort spent on the weaker foot.
I have started a level system
level 1 = 100 juggles on the feet counted by mum or dad
Level 2 = 250 Juggles On the feet counted by mum or dad
Level 3 = 500 Juggles On the feet + 20 on the week foot and + 50 left right +5 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 4 = 750 Juggles On the feet + 50 on the week foot and + 100 left right +10 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 5 = 1000 Juggles On the feet + 100 on the week foot and + 200 left right +20 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 6 = 1500 Juggles On the feet + 200 on the week foot and + 400 left right +50 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 7 = 2000 Juggles On the feet + 250 on the week foot and +500 left right +50 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 8 = 2000 Juggles On the feet + 250 on the week foot and +500 left right +75 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 9 = 2000 Juggles On the feet + 250 on the week foot and +500 left right +100 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 10 = 2000 Juggles On the feet + 250 on the week foot and +500 left right +100 +neck stall on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
I give a certificate at the end of the month and a mars bar.
I now have 3 players on level 2 and 2/3 nearing level 1 they are all beginning to compete and push each other.
that's what I am doing
Krones does the above mean continuous juggling or do say Level 10 2,000 but not continuous but in 1 session of practice? It means continues Juggling of 2000 x either foot knees and head are ok but not counted in the 2000.
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krones3 wrote:Just an update
U9-U10
I have continued Training until December 8th that gives me an extra 16 weeks twice a week for one hour at a session.
The session have no games only skill.
Step overs
twirls
hook turns
pull backs
roll overs
juggling 5min any foot all those who get 90 do 16 on left foot only and then left right 30 then headers 7
passing and shooting
dribbling
extra time and effort spent on the weaker foot.
I have started a level system
level 1 = 100 juggles on the feet counted by mum or dad
Level 2 = 250 Juggles On the feet counted by mum or dad
Level 3 = 500 Juggles On the feet + 20 on the week foot and + 50 left right +5 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 4 = 750 Juggles On the feet + 50 on the week foot and + 100 left right +10 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 5 = 1000 Juggles On the feet + 100 on the week foot and + 200 left right +20 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 6 = 1500 Juggles On the feet + 200 on the week foot and + 400 left right +50 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 7 = 2000 Juggles On the feet + 250 on the week foot and +500 left right +50 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 8 = 2000 Juggles On the feet + 250 on the week foot and +500 left right +75 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 9 = 2000 Juggles On the feet + 250 on the week foot and +500 left right +100 on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
Level 10 = 2000 Juggles On the feet + 250 on the week foot and +500 left right +100 +neck stall on the head counted by mum or dad not all on the same day
I give a certificate at the end of the month and a mars bar.
I now have 3 players on level 2 and 2/3 nearing level 1 they are all beginning to compete and push each other.
that's what I am doing
Krones does the above mean continuous juggling or do say Level 10 2,000 but not continuous but in 1 session of practice?
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Decentric wrote:pv4 wrote:Stackerjam wrote:pv4 wrote:Circle ball is a big one, and if we're ever left to our own devices we'll do that for hours :lol: i noticed when i watched Man United train before the allstars game that they play circle ball pre training too. Fun game, terrific, and we only allow 1 touch which makes us better for it.
Edited by pv4: 21/11/2014 11:48:54 AM Great thread and some great ideas! Pardon my ignorance pv4 but can you describe circle ball? This season I too banned my boys (U16s) from mindless shooting and got them playing rondos before start of training. They now love it and it's fun to watch also - so many little skills come out. Now I'm looking for another one... A fairly childish game, but I've always been a big fan of a game (I don't know the name of it though) where everyone has a ball, and are in a big square/rectangle. And the object of the game is to kick other players balls out of the square, whilst not having your ball kicked out. This is a hugely positive game if you're looking to get kids to learn about valuing the placement of your ball in regards to body positioning, about shielding the ball, and about all-around awareness as potential threats can come from any angle. When this game is done right, it can be hugely fun and beneficial. Not sure if it ranks in the KNVB model etc, but I've always personally got a lot out of that game. It is a KNVB approved one. It is important to keep the players who are eliminated active. True. Maybe an instruction for them to juggle, or if enough numbers do rondos, when they're eliminated. What is the game called?
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pv4 wrote:Stackerjam wrote:pv4 wrote:Circle ball is a big one, and if we're ever left to our own devices we'll do that for hours :lol: i noticed when i watched Man United train before the allstars game that they play circle ball pre training too. Fun game, terrific, and we only allow 1 touch which makes us better for it.
Edited by pv4: 21/11/2014 11:48:54 AM Great thread and some great ideas! Pardon my ignorance pv4 but can you describe circle ball? This season I too banned my boys (U16s) from mindless shooting and got them playing rondos before start of training. They now love it and it's fun to watch also - so many little skills come out. Now I'm looking for another one... A fairly childish game, but I've always been a big fan of a game (I don't know the name of it though) where everyone has a ball, and are in a big square/rectangle. And the object of the game is to kick other players balls out of the square, whilst not having your ball kicked out. This is a hugely positive game if you're looking to get kids to learn about valuing the placement of your ball in regards to body positioning, about shielding the ball, and about all-around awareness as potential threats can come from any angle. When this game is done right, it can be hugely fun and beneficial. Not sure if it ranks in the KNVB model etc, but I've always personally got a lot out of that game. It is a KNVB approved one. It is important to keep the players who are eliminated active.
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Stackerjam wrote:pv4 wrote:Circle ball is a big one, and if we're ever left to our own devices we'll do that for hours :lol: i noticed when i watched Man United train before the allstars game that they play circle ball pre training too. Fun game, terrific, and we only allow 1 touch which makes us better for it.
Edited by pv4: 21/11/2014 11:48:54 AM Great thread and some great ideas! Pardon my ignorance pv4 but can you describe circle ball? This season I too banned my boys (U16s) from mindless shooting and got them playing rondos before start of training. They now love it and it's fun to watch also - so many little skills come out. Now I'm looking for another one... Soccer Tennis is a great one we do pre-training sometimes. Gives you a chance to get your off-the-ground technique a bit of a workout. We usually play elimination, so whoever's fault it was for the point conceded, they leave the field. Adds that little extra element of competitiveness and makes you really value your touches, and also where you play the ball in an attempt to not receive it back. A fairly childish game, but I've always been a big fan of a game (I don't know the name of it though) where everyone has a ball, and are in a big square/rectangle. And the object of the game is to kick other players balls out of the square, whilst not having your ball kicked out. This is a hugely positive game if you're looking to get kids to learn about valuing the placement of your ball in regards to body positioning, about shielding the ball, and about all-around awareness as potential threats can come from any angle. When this game is done right, it can be hugely fun and beneficial. Not sure if it ranks in the KNVB model etc, but I've always personally got a lot out of that game.
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pv4 wrote:When i say circle ball i mean a man or two in the middle, chasing the ball down, and a circle of guys on the outside keeping it away from then. I don't know it by any other term - is that what rondos are? That is what rondos are. Piggy in the middle. There are three rondos particulalrly prescribed by the FFA and the KNVB. 3v1. 4v2. 5v3 or 2. They are a big part of Barca training too.
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joel31 wrote:pv4 wrote:Awesome stuff. When i was in my under13-16 reps team over the summer holiday we'd be given a sheet where we had to record how many juggles we got each day. I remember the first time i broke 1000 i thought i was king of the world. And it improved my play out of sight.
Nowadays i never count juggles but juggle a lot in breaks at training etc. I can juggle left foot right foot left foot right foot and walk forwards and backwards comfortably and casually, and i feel like this kind of skoll has done so much for me.
Good stuff. Why don't the Jets sign you mate. Sounds like you have more technical ability than Gallaway and Regan combined I used to play against Regan regularly, and trained with him for a month or two. He was technically brilliant. Back when he played Newcastle NPL, he was primarily a winger/attacking mid, and was phenomenal with his skills and all that, at that level. I was surprised when he was put to centre back at Jets youth, but now at HAL level I see no other position for him. To me, this just highlights the gap in class between NPL and A-League.
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When i say circle ball i mean a man or two in the middle, chasing the ball down, and a circle of guys on the outside keeping it away from then. I don't know it by any other term - is that what rondos are?
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pv4 wrote:Circle ball is a big one, and if we're ever left to our own devices we'll do that for hours :lol: i noticed when i watched Man United train before the allstars game that they play circle ball pre training too. Fun game, terrific, and we only allow 1 touch which makes us better for it.
Edited by pv4: 21/11/2014 11:48:54 AM Great thread and some great ideas! Pardon my ignorance pv4 but can you describe circle ball? This season I too banned my boys (U16s) from mindless shooting and got them playing rondos before start of training. They now love it and it's fun to watch also - so many little skills come out. Now I'm looking for another one...
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pv4 wrote:Awesome stuff. When i was in my under13-16 reps team over the summer holiday we'd be given a sheet where we had to record how many juggles we got each day. I remember the first time i broke 1000 i thought i was king of the world. And it improved my play out of sight.
Nowadays i never count juggles but juggle a lot in breaks at training etc. I can juggle left foot right foot left foot right foot and walk forwards and backwards comfortably and casually, and i feel like this kind of skoll has done so much for me.
Good stuff. Why don't the Jets sign you mate. Sounds like you have more technical ability than Gallaway and Regan combined
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Decentric wrote:.
The current FFA mode, and the KNVB, is absolutely no breaks in training from start to finish of a session, unless the whole team is breaking for a few seconds drink break.
Edited by Decentric: 21/11/2014 11:40:35 AM The clogs call it active rest .
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And yep we're big on not mindlessly shooting pre trainong. Too worried about injuries when not properly warmed up. Pre training we will usually group juggle, circle ball or soccer tennis if we're after some fun.
Circle ball is a big one, and if we're ever left to our own devices we'll do that for hours :lol: i noticed when i watched Man United train before the allstars game that they play circle ball pre training too. Fun game, terrific, and we only allow 1 touch which makes us better for it.
Edited by pv4: 21/11/2014 11:48:54 AM
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It's rare for my teams to have all drills and games mapped out entirely pre-training. There is usually a few minutes here and there to do your own thing while things are being setup. And a bit of time if drink breaks are long enough. I'd be surprised if we got 5 spare minutes the whole training though.
In regards to running off the ball, it's usually position-specific (obviously) and our roles and runs are pretty pre-determined based on formation and game plan. But for the most part, keeping it simple, I've been taught to always be able to see the ball and the goal. It sounds too simple, but you quick realise it opens the game up so much. If you're a striker and you're facing your own goal and your defender or midfielder has the ball, you take a few steps to the side and open your body to see the goal, and if the marker follows you, you've just left a big gap where you were.
When i have the ball I've basically been coached to obviously wait for team mates I'm passing to, to know I'm passing it to them. And play the side of their body that the defender isn't on, or play the ball in the space you want them to run into. And always know your teammates strong foot, and be mindful of the intensity you pass it at which of their feet. Just very simple stuff.
For reference, I'm primarily a centre back.
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PV4, when you've been coached, what sort of coaching have you had regarding running off the ball in relation to team-mates?
What sort of coaching have you had regarding team-mates before they receive the ball?
I was surprised you said juggled during breaks in training.
The current FFA mode, and the KNVB, is absolutely no breaks in training from start to finish of a session, unless the whole team is breaking for a few seconds drink break.
I tend to flog them on the pitch, unless stopping for an intervention, or, giving tactical/technical coaching points or team tasks. The whole sessions are game related.
Keeping them busy also prevents players from being distracted, including adult players.
They don't necessarily alway like it, but I never let players just mindlessly shoot around goals before sessions. When arriving at different times, I get them juggling individually, or in pairs, or when there are enough of them, throw them into 3v1 rondos.
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pv4 wrote:Decentric wrote:pv4 wrote:krones3 wrote:I really want all my players to develop their left foot to the point of people not being able to tell which foot is their dominant one. Agreed this is so important. One training a week i put a self-imposed ban on myself to not use my strong foot at all - entirely weak foot. And if i use my strong foot, i enforce a post-training punishment on myself for each touch. Like 20 pushups for each touch with strong foot. Obviously i don't apply this if we do skills or passing drills that the coach demands we use certain feet, but for everything else i do it. Not only does it improve my weak foot in general, it also forces me to become much more aware of my body positioning and in general it has helped me so much. Do you practise using the inside and outside of both feet too? All the time. I use a lot of inside and outside of both feet in games too. Such an important skill. The highest level i personally have made it in football is Newcastle NPL. I was briefly in the frame for Jets Youth at different times but never anything concrete. For any player wanting to go further than NPL, all of these skills are a simple necessity imo. If you can do inside and outside with both feet, whilst walking and with your head up, looking into the distance, fair play to you.:)
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Decentric wrote:pv4 wrote:krones3 wrote:I really want all my players to develop their left foot to the point of people not being able to tell which foot is their dominant one. Agreed this is so important. One training a week i put a self-imposed ban on myself to not use my strong foot at all - entirely weak foot. And if i use my strong foot, i enforce a post-training punishment on myself for each touch. Like 20 pushups for each touch with strong foot. Obviously i don't apply this if we do skills or passing drills that the coach demands we use certain feet, but for everything else i do it. Not only does it improve my weak foot in general, it also forces me to become much more aware of my body positioning and in general it has helped me so much. Do you practise using the inside and outside of both feet too? All the time. I use a lot of inside and outside of both feet in games too. Such an important skill. The highest level i personally have made it in football is Newcastle NPL. I was briefly in the frame for Jets Youth at different times but never anything concrete. For any player wanting to go further than NPL, all of these skills are a simple necessity imo.
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pv4 wrote:Decentric wrote:Krones, as I get my coaching hat on, try getting players to juggle, whilst keeping their heads up and looking in front of them.
This creates vision whilst acquiring technique.
It is very difficult at first, but is a good challenge to those kids who can already juggle well. It is good for players of any age .
Try this PV4. When i do left foot right foot walking, i already look up. Agreed it is an awesome skill to have and helps out so much. =d>
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pv4 wrote:krones3 wrote:I really want all my players to develop their left foot to the point of people not being able to tell which foot is their dominant one. Agreed this is so important. One training a week i put a self-imposed ban on myself to not use my strong foot at all - entirely weak foot. And if i use my strong foot, i enforce a post-training punishment on myself for each touch. Like 20 pushups for each touch with strong foot. Obviously i don't apply this if we do skills or passing drills that the coach demands we use certain feet, but for everything else i do it. Not only does it improve my weak foot in general, it also forces me to become much more aware of my body positioning and in general it has helped me so much. Do you practise using the inside and outside of both feet too?
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krones3 wrote:I really want all my players to develop their left foot to the point of people not being able to tell which foot is their dominant one. Agreed this is so important. One training a week i put a self-imposed ban on myself to not use my strong foot at all - entirely weak foot. And if i use my strong foot, i enforce a post-training punishment on myself for each touch. Like 20 pushups for each touch with strong foot. Obviously i don't apply this if we do skills or passing drills that the coach demands we use certain feet, but for everything else i do it. Not only does it improve my weak foot in general, it also forces me to become much more aware of my body positioning and in general it has helped me so much.
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Decentric wrote:Krones, as I get my coaching hat on, try getting players to juggle, whilst keeping their heads up and looking in front of them.
This creates vision whilst acquiring technique.
It is very difficult at first, but is a good challenge to those kids who can already juggle well. It is good for players of any age .
Try this PV4. When i do left foot right foot walking, i already look up. Agreed it is an awesome skill to have and helps out so much.
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