:) Where did I say it was a race Ricey?

???

You called Trump supporters racists. You're implying Trump is a racist.
What do you base this on?

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1. That is like refusing to allow any Christian migration because of the WACO incident. Totally ridiculous, and not proportional to the risk. Not to mention, how are they supposed to assess people's religion. You think a terrorist wouldn't just claim to be Christian? Furthermore, many countries in the middle east have significant non-muslim minorities, meaning it isn't a simple matter of looking at nationality. It is a completely ineffective, pointless and un-thoughtout policy.

[size=9]2. You still don't address the point that there is a net outflow of Mexican migration over the last few years. [/size]Also, the US economy is completely reliant on illegal Mexicans to do their cheap labour. A rational approach would be to have a formalised guest worker program, where people can come and go legally. If people knew they could move back and forth without dangerous border crossings, most people would come to the US, work for a few years and return. As it is, there is already a net outflow.

3. Um... drug smuggling is a massive problem for MEXICO. Its a much bigger problem for them than it is for the USA. It is US demand for drugs is what drives the supply. A sane policy would be drug legalisation and regulation, which would stop the income base of the cartels.

You called Trump supporters racists. You're implying Trump is a racist.
What do you base this on?

Specifically? I dont have time to watch a 45 minute video and guess what your issue with it is.

Edited by TheFactOfTheMatter: 18/2/2016 08:37:42 PM

Make time :)

What an embarrassment this person is

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So what?

The issue is about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, not about Mexicans. You made it racial.

The USA has a border between it and Mexico for a reason. The border is enforced by the current POTUS administration who I assume you're a fan of.

However the condition of the border is such that illegals can too easily penetrate it.

What issue do you have with building more effective border protection?

Do you advocate open borders and anyone of the 122 million Mexicans can simply move into the United States if they choose at any time of their choosing?

It's just a boogeyman to create fear about. You don't have to have an opinion that is either "total open borders" vs "hermetically sealed border". The point is that it is spending massive amounts of money on something that isn't needed, or necessary, based on a fear that isn't rational.

If you have a net outflow of people going from the US to Mexico, clearly that means that the US obviously does not really have a major issue with illegal migration from Mexico.

It's just a boogeyman to create fear about. You don't have to have an opinion that is either "total open borders" vs "hermetically sealed border". The point is that it is spending massive amounts of money on something that isn't needed, or necessary, based on a fear that isn't rational.

If it isn't about race, why is The Donald saying that the Mexican "illegals" are rapists and criminals?

Illegals arent included in official statistics so your "net outflow" argument is baseless

This took me a 5 second google search to locate:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/what-we-know-about-illegal-immigration-from-mexico/

"The number of Mexican immigrants living in the U.S. illegally has declined."

" More non-Mexicans than Mexicans were apprehended at U.S. borders in 2014".

If you google "net outflow of mexicans from USA" you will find multiple sources saying the same.

Please don't parrot what your favourite pollie says without first checking whether it is based on fact.

You're confusing two separate issues and "stats".

You dont know how to interpret these stats and the underlying reality behind this data. That much is clear.

The net outflow is for LEGAL Mexicans.

The figures for illegal immigrants are ESTIMATES, not official data and they dont amount to a net outflow of Mexicans.

You cannot comprehend this information because you're a zealot on this issue.

You've admitted now that your entire understanding is based on you googling. You dont live in America you're not aware of the local issues there so you're not really qualified to comment on whether better border protection measures are required.

Your argument is about cost of a wall that its wasted money. You dont know how that funding model is going to be set up, that Trump claims the Mexicans will pay for it, you dont know the cost of the current measure of apprehension which involves thousands of drone sorties, the cost of apprehension within the US border and the cost to federal police.

In other words you have NFI what you're talking about. You only know that you hate Trump because the media told you to.

I'm not confusing anything. If you actually clicked on the article I linked it specifically talks about ILLEGAL MIGRANTS. It is from the Pew Research Center - a well known, independent research firm.

I say you cannot comprehend this because you are a Trump zealot.

Oh yes, the Mexicans are going to pay for it all!!! How exactly will Trump make that happen? Threaten to nuke Mexico City?

I don't hate Trump, I just see him for what he is - a middling business man who inherited his business, who has gone bankrupt a number of times, whose popularity is due to the republican primary voters wanting to give a collective middle finger to the republican party establishment.

-PB

“It wasn’t the Iraqis that knocked down the World Trade Center,” “It wasn’t the Iraqis. You will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center, ‘cuz they have papers in there that are very secret. You may find it’s the Saudis, okay? But you will find out.”

-Trump

US presidential candidate Donald Trump has called for a boycott of Apple until the tech giant helps unlock the iPhone of one of the San Bernardino killers.
Apple has clashed with the Justice Department (DoJ) over a court order forcing the company to help break the encryption on one of its phones.
On Friday the DoJ called Apple's refusal a "marketing strategy".
Apple said it will not help break into the the phone, citing wider privacy concerns for its users.
The phone belonged to one of the two people who opened fire at an office event in San Bernardino, California, last December, killing 14
Speaking at a campaign rally, Mr Trump said: "Boycott Apple until such time as they give that information."...
http://www.bbc.com/news/35618018

Hillary Clinton wins Nevada caucuses
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-35624026

The majority of states on Super Tuesday are full of non-college educated whites, which is Trump's strongest point.