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Trump to appoint Palin to a cabinet post

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Hillary Clinton’s speech on race upsets Jeb Bush’s plans


Originally published July 31, 2015 at 8:01 pm

As Jeb Bush waited to speak before the National Urban League, Hillary Rodham Clinton portrayed him as a hypocrite who had set back the cause of black Americans.

By Michael Barbaro

The New York Times

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — Jeb Bush and his aides had envisioned a big, inclusive, high-minded speech about race Friday in his home state of Florida, a chance to bring his message of colorblind opportunity to a prestigious group of African-American leaders.

In a rare gesture of bipartisanship, Bush planned to warmly quote President Obama, usually the subject of his derision.

Then Hillary Rodham Clinton stomped all over those plans.


Clintons’ earnings topped $139M

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, earned more than $139 million between 2007 and 2014, according to eight years of federal income-tax returns released by her campaign Friday.

The returns show the Clintons paid an overall federal tax rate of 31.6 percent during those years. Most of the Clintons’ income came from speeches delivered to corporate and interest groups by Bill Clinton and later by Hillary Clinton after she resigned as secretary of state in early 2013.

Hillary Clinton said the couple has paid nearly $44 million in federal taxes on $139.1 million in income since 2006, and donated nearly $15 million to charity. This year, the Clintons boosted personal donations to their family charity, the Clinton Foundation, to between $5 million and $10 million.

In a biting pre-emptive attack delivered as Bush, the former Florida governor, waited backstage at the annual convention of the National Urban League, Clinton portrayed him as a hypocrite who had set back the cause of black Americans.

It was an unexpected moment of political theater that seemed to presage what could be a bitter general-election rivalry between two of the biggest names in American politics.

Clinton, a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, latched onto Bush’s campaign slogan and the name of his super PAC — “Right to Rise,” his shorthand for a conservative agenda of self-reliance and hope — and turned it into an oral spear.

“People can’t rise if they can’t afford health care,” Clinton said to applause from conventiongoers, a dig at Bush’s opposition to the Affordable Care Act.

“They can’t rise if the minimum wage is too low to live on,” she said, a jab at his opposition to raising the federal minimum wage.

“They can’t rise if their governor makes it harder for them to get a college education,” she said, a critique of Bush’s decision as governor to eliminate affirmative action in college admissions.

When Bush reached the lectern, declaring, “I believe in the right to rise in this country,” the scent of political gunpowder was still in the air.

The assault on her Republican rival was all the more striking because the Bush and Clinton families make a point of highlighting their friendly ties: Former Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush appear on this week’s cover of Time magazine.

Bush appeared unprepared to respond, thanking Clinton for joining him at the event but otherwise leaving her criticism unanswered in his speech.

Bush’s aides, however, could barely hide their disgust over Clinton’s remarks, which they spoke of, bitterly, as uncivil and uncalled-for. On Twitter, Tim Miller, Bush’s communications director, called it a “Clintonesque move to pass over chance to unite in favor of a false cheap shot.”

Allie Brandenburger, another spokeswoman for Bush, followed up with an email: “The Urban League deserved better.”

Despite the broadsides from Clinton, Bush’s speech was well-received. He won applause when he recalled his decision to remove the Confederate battle flag from the grounds of the Florida Capitol in 2001. And he spoke emotionally of the massacre of nine black parishioners in Charleston, S.C., in June and of the forgiveness their survivors had expressed for the man charged in the shooting.

“In the community of that city, we found such grace, such purity of heart, such heroic goodness, such boundless mercy, all gathered up in one story,” Bush said.

He quoted the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Obama. “When President Obama says that ‘For too long, we’ve been blind to the way past injustices continue to shape the present,’ he is speaking the truth,” Bush said to applause.


He did not directly address the rash of police shootings of unarmed black men that dominated discussions at the Urban League conference this week. Instead, he called for rebuilding trust in “America’s vital institutions.”

“That happens,” he said, “one person at a time. One politician at a time. One police officer at a time.”

In her remarks, Clinton took a more direct approach, ticking off the names of African Americans who have died after interactions with law enforcement — including Eric Garner, Walter Scott and Freddie Gray — to knowing nods in the audience.

“These names are emblazoned on our hearts,” she said. “We’ve seen their faces; we’ve heard their grieving families.”

The conference Friday had offered a chance for Sen. Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent challenging Clinton for the Democratic nomination who has generated a loyal following among white liberals, to appeal more directly to black voters. But his speech highlighted how much work he still has to do.

At one point, Sanders begged for the crowd’s indulgence to discuss his campaign platform before focusing on the “save our cities” subject of the gathering. But he called that “your theme,” an off-key remark, and one that echoed a speech he made Thursday, in which he twice referred to Latinos as “your people” before the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.

Ben Carson, a Republican who was the sole black candidate to speak at the meeting, took a tough-love approach that seemed to inspire little enthusiasm from the crowd. Carson, a retired neurosurgeon, never mentioned the high-profile deaths of unarmed black men and women in police custody and held himself up as a model of how ambition and education could rescue poor African Americans from poverty.

He called on black parents to talk to their sons “about how they conduct themselves.”

“If you conduct yourselves in certain ways,” he said, “you are going to run into trouble, not only with law enforcement but with the guy down the block.”

Herman Wallace, an attendee from Kansas City, Missouri, was unmoved. “Carson,” he said, “talked about himself.”


Michael Barbaro

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/hillary-clintons-speech-on-race-upsets-jeb-bushs-plans/
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Trump being sued for fraud

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the lols if donald trump becomes president
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Does anyone think it won't end up being Clinton v Bush?

People talk up Trump and Sanders but i don't think either has a chance once the average voter starts paying attention. Trump is just benefiting from name recognition at the moment i reckon.
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Did a little contemplation recently and the following are Republican supporters:
Stallone, Willis, Schwarzenegger, Eastwood.

Says plenty & not surprising

Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 26/8/2015 10:36:30 PM
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Edited by MrBrisbane: 17/3/2016 09:24:10 PM



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MrBrisbane wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
Does anyone think it won't end up being Clinton v Bush?

People talk up Trump and Sanders but i don't think either has a chance once the average voter starts paying attention. Trump is just benefiting from name recognition at the moment i reckon.


I think you underestimate how stupid Americans can be. :lol: I honestly would not be surprised if Trump was elected President.


Would be shocked if he was elected president. Republican candidate on the other hand would not be so shocking.
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There is no chance Donald will become the Republican nominee, and it has nothing to do with Americans not being stupid.

Republican primary voters are generally the hardcore grass roots party members - eg the religious right.

Trump has no culturally conservative credentials, and he is not a loyal party member - he has stated he may run as an independent if he doesn't get the Republican nomination.

This is why the opinion polls are biased - the people who like him are people who don't vote in primaries, eg people who like him because he doesn't talk like a politician, people who like that he makes the rest of the nominees look awkward etc, and because of name recognition.

Donald may be popular in the polls, but he still only has 25-26%. That 75% that don't have him as their favourite largely hate his guts.

He is a polarising character, which isn't what you want to win elections.
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They have no chance of winning the election. Full of crazy fuckwits criminally out of touch with reality

My concern with Sanders' campaign is that if it continues to grow and gains favouritism over Hillary then we might see a reaction a la 1972 McGovern campaign. A lot of blue collar Americans might vote conservative simply because they hate (and don't understand) socialism.

He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.

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Sanders has no chance either - he is the Howard Dean of 2016.

Young people are energised and turning out, but when the bulk of voters start to pay attention and Hillary starts spending it will be all over.

I think it is good that Hillary will have some competition for a while at least, rather than a virtual coronation.
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What IS interesting is that Jeremy Corbyn looks like a real chance of becoming the Labour Party leader in the UK. If that happens, then look forward to another decade of Tory rule!

Gulp...
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Hillary will make an excellent president.
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trident wrote:
Hillary will make an excellent president.


If they ban her from emailing then sure lol

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paulbagzFC wrote:
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Hillary will make an excellent president.


If they ban her from emailing then sure lol

-PB


No biggie. Just some emails and her aides were probably at fault.
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I really don't think it makes a huge difference who wins if it is an "establishment" candidate, especially when it comes to domestic policy.

Congress actually has authority for so much of the legislative agenda that the position of President gets so overrated in terms of authority.
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AzzaMarch wrote:
I really don't think it makes a huge difference who wins if it is an "establishment" candidate, especially when it comes to domestic policy.

Congress actually has authority for so much of the legislative agenda that the position of President gets so overrated in terms of authority.


You are right to some extent. Obama hasnt been able to do all the things he wanted however he did implement universal healthcare. Hillary may not be able to change the constitution either but she can at least implement laws and executive orders to keep the people safer.
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trident wrote:
Hillary will make an excellent president.








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Well actually Obama did not bring in "universal healthcare". He improved a messed up scenario somewhat, but the USA is still the only rich country not to have universal healthcare.

And Obama did not introduce it through presidential proclamation, it was passed by Congress.
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Ah yes... the old "US govt is controlled by Israel" line... sigh...

The Iran nuclear deal makes that argument a bit hard to maintain though, no?
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MrBrisbane wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
Does anyone think it won't end up being Clinton v Bush?

People talk up Trump and Sanders but i don't think either has a chance once the average voter starts paying attention. Trump is just benefiting from name recognition at the moment i reckon.


I think you underestimate how stupid Americans can be. :lol: I honestly would not be surprised if Trump was elected President.


And he's big mouth starts a war within six months
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StiflersMom wrote:
MrBrisbane wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
Does anyone think it won't end up being Clinton v Bush?

People talk up Trump and Sanders but i don't think either has a chance once the average voter starts paying attention. Trump is just benefiting from name recognition at the moment i reckon.


I think you underestimate how stupid Americans can be. :lol: I honestly would not be surprised if Trump was elected President.


And he's big mouth starts a war within six months


Yep, could see that Iran stuff going up in flames.

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AzzaMarch wrote:
Ah yes... the old "US govt is controlled by Israel" line... sigh...

The Iran nuclear deal makes that argument a bit hard to maintain though, no?

I'm surprised that image is being tolerated by the mods, I think Unshackled is surprised too that it hasn't gotten the reaction he intended :roll:

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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mcjules wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
Ah yes... the old "US govt is controlled by Israel" line... sigh...

The Iran nuclear deal makes that argument a bit hard to maintain though, no?

I'm surprised that image is being tolerated by the mods, I think Unshackled is surprised too that it hasn't gotten the reaction he intended :roll:


JewFFA will be here soon enough!

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mcjules wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
Ah yes... the old "US govt is controlled by Israel" line... sigh...

The Iran nuclear deal makes that argument a bit hard to maintain though, no?

I'm surprised that image is being tolerated by the mods, I think Unshackled is surprised too that it hasn't gotten the reaction he intended :roll:


It would seem to be crossing the line. Antisemitism is not ok.
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trident wrote:
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AzzaMarch wrote:
Ah yes... the old "US govt is controlled by Israel" line... sigh...

The Iran nuclear deal makes that argument a bit hard to maintain though, no?

I'm surprised that image is being tolerated by the mods, I think Unshackled is surprised too that it hasn't gotten the reaction he intended :roll:


It would seem to be crossing the line. Antisemitism is not ok.

He can have the opinion that "Jews rule the world" (even though I think it's ridiculous) but the image is relatively crass and borderline mysogynistic (I only say borderline as the suggests that men could also be "whores").

I'm not surprised that someone has said there's nothing vulgar about it but it so obviously is. You can argue that something vulgar like that is no big deal but pretending it isn't is just ridiculous :lol:

Anyway, hope you're happy Unshackled I've given you what you wanted :-$

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mcjules wrote:
trident wrote:
mcjules wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
Ah yes... the old "US govt is controlled by Israel" line... sigh...

The Iran nuclear deal makes that argument a bit hard to maintain though, no?

I'm surprised that image is being tolerated by the mods, I think Unshackled is surprised too that it hasn't gotten the reaction he intended :roll:


It would seem to be crossing the line. Antisemitism is not ok.

He can have the opinion that "Jews rule the world" (even though I think it's ridiculous) but the image is relatively crass and borderline mysogynistic (I only say borderline as the suggests that men could also be "whores").

I'm not surprised that someone has said there's nothing vulgar about it but it so obviously is. You can argue that something vulgar like that is no big deal but pretending it isn't is just ridiculous :lol:

Anyway, hope you're happy Unshackled I've given you what you wanted :-$


Sure its mysogynistic and anti-semite. Racecrackers territory.
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trident wrote:
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trident wrote:
mcjules wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
Ah yes... the old "US govt is controlled by Israel" line... sigh...

The Iran nuclear deal makes that argument a bit hard to maintain though, no?

I'm surprised that image is being tolerated by the mods, I think Unshackled is surprised too that it hasn't gotten the reaction he intended :roll:


It would seem to be crossing the line. Antisemitism is not ok.

He can have the opinion that "Jews rule the world" (even though I think it's ridiculous) but the image is relatively crass and borderline mysogynistic (I only say borderline as the suggests that men could also be "whores").

I'm not surprised that someone has said there's nothing vulgar about it but it so obviously is. You can argue that something vulgar like that is no big deal but pretending it isn't is just ridiculous :lol:

Anyway, hope you're happy Unshackled I've given you what you wanted :-$


Sure its mysogynistic and anti-semite. Racecrackers territory.

Why has no one made this multi yet :lol:

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mcjules wrote:
I'm surprised that image is being tolerated by the mods, I think Unshackled is surprised too that it hasn't gotten the reaction he intended :roll:


mcjules wrote:
Anyway, hope you're happy Unshackled I've given you what you wanted Shhh


I like how you assume to know what I'm thinking and speak on my behalf. It comes across as very smug ;)
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