You're welcome to jump on board the Bernie train then. We're riding this loco motive all the way the DC!

Bullshit

Interesting how obvious CNN's editorial bias had been shown up after that debate.

-PB

Anyone here think Sanders has a chance to get the Democratic nom?

I think its good he is there to broaden the debate and the issues that get discussed, but I think this is a coronation for Hillary.

Sadly though, Hillary will play the "I'm a female" card and it will work.

-PB

Well at least she's better than Bush or Trump :)

And remember folks, Republicans are more right wing than Democrats. That the more extreme right wing, the poorer the ability to constructively debate is for me, well, not surprisingly since all the sociological, psychological & even neurological research and polling already strongly suggests it.

Sanders chances of win the nomination are limited to Biden not running, which is looking more and more likely, and Hillary being removed from the contest by a scandal or health problems or similar. He will not beat Clinton or Biden on merit, but it worth him staying around for as long as he can just in case something happens to Clinton.

Why would anyone vote for Sanders? His platform is "free shit for everyone".

Because the alternatives are Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.

Because he's pointing out the bullshit of establishment politics without being a sociopath like Trump, pointing out the un-democratic actions of donors and the GOP and is motivated not by money or personal gain. He also has a proven track record of sticking to his words, does not act like a petulant wanker like most politicians, does not chop and change views like Hillary and actually comes across a lovely human being.

He's also called Bernie

And open and free discourse and exchange of ideas at a Donald Trump rally:

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"It's my freedom to spit in anyone's face, etc"

So you're voting for him because he's nice?

His economic policies are a fucking disaster, he's a career politician and he's one of the least productive members of congress. Seriously, can you name a single achievement of his?

On top of that, he looks weak and insipid - can you imagine a guy like that going up against Putin?

He basically sucked off Hillary under the table when he said "stop talking about the emails".

Jim Webb is a far superior democrat choice, but imo Trump would be the best.

Free stuff for everyone is a better platform than free stuff to people that donate to my campaign, wall st and the military industrial complex.

I've literally never heard a single reason why Trump should even be considered a legitimate candidate, let alone the best candidate. All I've heard him say is "Make America great again" this and "Build a wall to keep the drugs and rapists out" that and other bullshit one-liners and slogans. That and resorting to petty insults. Pretty much the American Tony Abbott. Yet he has a large amount of the Republican voters lapping it up. Are people really that pissed off with Obama for not living up to the hype that they'll elect a bankrupt reality show star?

Also looking weak and insipid didn't stop Kevin Rudd from getting elected.

The Libertarians and all the other minor parties will never have any impact or put any pressure on the major parties and as marconi said, Hillary changes her views to make herself more appealing to the general public (criticised the Confederate flag and currently supports gay marriage when in the 90's and early 00's she used the Confederate flag in one of her campaigns and stated that marriage should be only between a man and a woman, amongst other things). Bernie isn't perfect, but in the two party system which forces you to choose between a giant douche and a turd sandwich, he's a well done steak drenched in tomato sauce.

Not surprising. Simplism & right wing voting go hand in glove, or should I say priest in altar boy.

All aboard the Bernie train +1 this :)

As I posted a few pages ago

- Anti-free trade (including but not limited to NAFTA and the TPP)
- Will punish companies for off-shoring/outsourcing jobs
- Wants a strong military BUT he will not use it (doesn't want to get involved in Syria and the Israel/Iran/Saudi Arabia proxy-war clusterfuck)
- Presents a clear alternative to the establishment (It's why they push so hard against him)
- More qualified than most career politicians
- Deal with the illegal arrivals at the border and open an opportunity for LEGAL immigration
- Anti-political correctness
- Will fuck off political donors when they try to bribe him

Donald Trump uses lawyer to prove he is not the child of an orangutan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdEiCGyLlGk

Edited by Murdoch Rags Ltd: 17/10/2015 02:56:40 PM

Despite being an american Facist, this is a positive thing he brings to the floor and for the time being I'm happy for him to be in the race if he can keep talking about money in politics

And he's a child

Trumps lack of diplomacy is actually terrifying when considering the damage he could do on the international stage.

I'm not a registered American voter so obviously not :lol:

How do you know that? You'd think the people of Burlington wouldn't have elected him mayor for 4 terms (in a traditionally conservative, rural state) if he was economically naive. Furthermore, he served 16 years as an independent (the longest in history) and then was re-elected for a second term with a 71% of the vote. If his economic policies were a "fucking disaster" how could he have achieved this as an openly socialist politician?

Further info on his time as Burlington mayor: http://www.thenation.com/article/bernies-burlington-city-sustainable-future/

As for achievements here's a recent one: He drafted a large piece of legislation to support and start repairing the Veterans Administration following the scandal that broke in Arizona, with the price tag at $2 billion. It failed in the first attempt, but he went to the Republicans and negotiated a compromise and together they brought the bill to the House where it passed the House 420-5 and passed the Senate 91-3 (take into consideration Bernie is a socialist, and somehow clearly worked efficiently with the GOP). It was signed into law immediately by President Obama.

He doesn't look weak and insipid, he's a 74 year old Jewish man. I would be suspicious if he looked like Vince McMahon at his age.

No he didn't. It is a toothless scandal that has been admitted to be a farce simply to discredit Clinton

Jim Webb seems to be a fine politician but he lacks the rhetoric for this election

He also sits on the following committees:
- Ranking Member, Senate Committee on the Budget
- Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources
- Member, Subcommittee on Energy
- Member, Subcommittee on National Parks
- Member, Subcommittee on Water and Power
- Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works
- Member, Subcommittee on Clean Air and Nuclear Safety
- Member, Subcommittee on Fisheries, Water, and Wildlife
- Member, Subcommittee on Transportation and Infrastructure
- Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
- Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Primary Health and Retirement Security
- Member, Subcommittee on Children and Families
- Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs

As if anyone with a grasp on reality thinks Trump is a viable choice ffs.

You've nailed Trump there. The guy will say anything for publicity.
Contrast that with Bernie Sanders who just keeps doing his thing and the irony is that he's picking up a lot of fans among the more educated people. During the debate he picked up 50,000 new twitter followers.

Whilst not accusing anyone on this forum, you'd have to say a fair amount of the detractors Bernie has is rooted in some antisemitism.

The republicans trying to make something out of nothing with Hillary's emails is laughable. Try as they might they wont get anywhere because there is nothing to see. Hillary's record is second to none on foreign policy. I think she has to put up with probably more than her fair share also due to the fact of her being a woman in a male dominated domain.

A black president followed by a female president. Republicans everywhere will be screaming "why has God forsaken me"......

Trump will do exactly what the military tells him.

Like all good US presidents.