United States of America: Commander in Chief Joe Biden


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Trump understood that you're meant to tell jokes when you're doing a roast, right?

For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby

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433 - 20 Oct 2016 10:49 PM
Salmon, you need to get a fucking life lmao 

Your obsession with Trump is concerning. 

If he put as much effort into his own life, as he does with his obsession with trump he would be unstoppable. 
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Gayfish - 21 Oct 2016 12:59 PM
433 - 20 Oct 2016 10:49 PM

If he put as much effort into his own life, as he does with his obsession with trump he would be unstoppable. 

loooooooool

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salmonfc - 21 Oct 2016 1:05 PM
Gayfish - 21 Oct 2016 12:59 PM

loooooooool

You like that one sammy :)
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salmonfc - 21 Oct 2016 1:05 PM
Gayfish - 21 Oct 2016 12:59 PM

loooooooool

Using humour to mask insecurity isn't novel. 
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433 - 21 Oct 2016 5:19 PM
salmonfc - 21 Oct 2016 1:05 PM

Using humour to mask insecurity isn't novel. 

looooool

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salmonfc - 20 Oct 2016 1:22 PM
I'd rather just have a third Obama term tbh

Obama is your first president.

Trust me when I say that Presidents usually actually do things.

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salmonfc - 20 Oct 2016 1:22 PM

Obama is your first president.

Trust me when I say that Presidents usually actually do things.

only time will tell, how good or bad Obama  was....it very easy to see Obama as being weak ( I do)  ...the idea of not wanting the USA to fight middle east wars anymore is a good idea as a stand alone idea , but it might not work out good...it lets countries like Russia-Iran test the lines of how far they can now push back....but only time will tell
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11.mvfc.11 - 20 Oct 2016 10:40 PM
Hillary wins 1 and 3, but I am still confident about Donald's chances in the election.


This is such a bizarre sentiment that so many Trump supporters seem to share. 

It doesn't matter how awful you think Hillary is (or how little you respect my view on the election, for that matter); it's simply delusional to think this race is still competitive (let alone be "confident" about a Trump victory). If you sincerely think that then you just haven't been paying much attention at all (which unfortunately seems true of most people in this thread). 

This election is done. All but one national poll in the last week has shown Hillary leading by at least 8%, one was as high as 15%. The long-term average falls decidedly in her column. All that's really in doubt is whether Hillary wins in a close-but-clear, Obama '12 style victory, or it turns into a landslide not seen since Reagan.

It's time to stop parroting Breitbart and Milo and face reality. If not, you're in for a huge shock come November 9.

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Further to that point, the hot tip is that there are more Access Hollywood-type tapes on the way. 

When audio of Donald Trump referring to the United States' first African American President as a "n***er" leaks, this will go from an embarrassing loss into a complete annihilation. 

[Fwiw, not sure I buy that any future leaked tapes say that specifically - I'm not 100% confident there'll be more leaks at all, considering the legal problems around them. Plenty of journalists are suggesting that they're a distinct possibility, but it's just speculation atm. Regardless, this election is one rogue staffer-turned-informant away from turning into a double-digit landslide. Clinton has it in the bag whatever happens, but if I'm a Trump supporter, I'd be pretty worried about how bad these last couple of weeks could get.]
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Trump ahead in the IBD/TIPP polls.

-PB

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paulbagzFC - 23 Oct 2016 7:52 AM
Trump ahead in the IBD/TIPP polls.

-PB

Straight to the White House baby, lock it in. Obama your fired. 
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11.mvfc.11 - 23 Oct 2016 11:21 AM
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Every mainstream poll was claiming Brexit would fail, and look how that turned out.

It's funny that I'm the delusional one for thinking my preferred candidate still has a chance of winning, yet you can't even wrap your head around the idea of Trump getting in. 

It's people like you who make me believe in Donald, because the shitstorm if/when he is successful will be glorious.




Further proof that for all your talk, you really aren't following this election very closely.

1. There were a few dozen polls conducted prior to Brexit, and they showed a narrow lead for Remain. There have been hundreds (probably thousands, but I haven't counted) of state and national polls for the Presidential Election, consistently showing Clinton with a wide lead. To compare the possibility of a few Brexit polls being slightly off to many, many more Presidential polls being way off is mathematically nonsensical. 

2. But even then - the fact that the polls got it wrong this one time in a totally different context in a country halfway across the world is just about the worst possible reason to be "confident" of a Trump win. At best, it means you should be sceptical of the size of Clinton's lead. It doesn't make sense to be like "The polls say Clinton is winning, but they were wrong for Brexit, therefore Trump is definitely winning." To the extent that the polls being wrong is a possibility, it's an incredibly narrow one.

In any case, it doesn't seem like you'll be swayed by logic. Clinton will win on November 9 and Donald will go back to assaulting women and defrauding anyone who decides to do business with him. 

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If anyone here is interested in an impartial, statistical look at how the election will likely finish:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-there-are-4-ways-this-election-can-end-and-3-involve-clinton-winning/

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Been a while since someone brought up Nate Silver.

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paulbagzFC - 23 Oct 2016 3:54 PM
Been a while since someone brought up Nate Silver.

-PB

Take his analysis with a grain of salt, by all means, but 538 is a vastly better resource than Reddit / Breitbart / the musings of various know-nothings on here.
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11.mvfc.11 - 23 Oct 2016 11:21 AM
TheDecider - 22 Oct 2016 11:11 PM

Every mainstream poll was claiming Brexit would fail, and look how that turned out.

It's funny that I'm the delusional one for thinking my preferred candidate still has a chance of winning, yet you can't even wrap your head around the idea of Trump getting in. 

It's people like you who make me believe in Donald, because the shitstorm if/when he is successful will be glorious.




Brexit polling last day
46% stay
44% leave

the brexit poll was with in margin of Error ...Trump is no where close to being with in margin of error ...
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TheDecider - 23 Oct 2016 12:40 PM
11.mvfc.11 - 23 Oct 2016 11:21 AM

Further proof that for all your talk, you really aren't following this election very closely.

1. There were a few dozen polls conducted prior to Brexit, and they showed a narrow lead for Remain. There have been hundreds (probably thousands, but I haven't counted) of state and national polls for the Presidential Election, consistently showing Clinton with a wide lead. To compare the possibility of a few Brexit polls being slightly off to many, many more Presidential polls being way off is mathematically nonsensical. 

2. But even then - the fact that the polls got it wrong this one time in a totally different context in a country halfway across the world is just about the worst possible reason to be "confident" of a Trump win. At best, it means you should be sceptical of the size of Clinton's lead. It doesn't make sense to be like "The polls say Clinton is winning, but they were wrong for Brexit, therefore Trump is definitely winning." To the extent that the polls being wrong is a possibility, it's an incredibly narrow one.

In any case, it doesn't seem like you'll be swayed by logic. Clinton will win on November 9 and Donald will go back to assaulting women and defrauding anyone who decides to do business with him. 

very true
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TheDecider - 23 Oct 2016 4:14 PM
paulbagzFC - 23 Oct 2016 3:54 PM

Take his analysis with a grain of salt, by all means, but 538 is a vastly better resource than Reddit / Breitbart / the musings of various know-nothings on here.

they are by far the best....
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should have a tipping comp
here are the rules:
1. lowest score wins
2. 10 points for every seat wrong in the senate prediction (e.g. if you predict 50-50 and actual result is 52-48 thats 20 points)
3. 10 points for every point wrong in popular vote for president (e.g. if you predict 50-50 and actual result is 58.2 you get 82 points)
4. 1 point for every house seat wrong (e.g. predict 50-50 and actual result is 51-49 you get 10 points)
5. 10 points for every governors house different from prediction (e.g. if you predict 30-20 and actual result is 31-19 you get 10 points)

I'm going to go a small landslide
R to have 48 senate seats
In popular vote I'm going 9.1 point margin to dems
D to win 219 house seats
D to have 22 Governor mansions

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Trump down twelve points nationally! People are saying this is a highly respected pollster, amazing result! Thank you America!

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-vaults-double-digit-lead-boosted-broad-disapproval/story?id=42993821

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Trump down 4 points in Utah (most Republican state in the country in 2012)! This is from great conservative pollsters at Fox News. Wait til the Clinton News Network hears about this. Thank you Utah!

https://mobile.twitter.com/FoxNews/status/790303800674226176

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Trump UP three points in Lyin' Ted's Texas (within margin of error!) Great to be leading in this important swing state. Thank you Texas!

https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/10/23/battlegrounds-presidential-race-tight-florida-and-/

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TheDecider - 23 Oct 2016 4:14 PM
paulbagzFC - 23 Oct 2016 3:54 PM

Take his analysis with a grain of salt, by all means, but 538 is a vastly better resource than Reddit / Breitbart / the musings of various know-nothings on here.

You're a know-nothing to say the least! 
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I support Clinton to win this. but to be making fun of Trump supporters in this manner is what will result in Clinton losing at the next election as the popular uprising continues to gain momentum around the world.

Therefore, it is only a matter of time before America elects a far right wing politician who will close America's borders, build walls, and isolate itself. 

This popular movement will continue as the far right gains momentum, especially in Europe. 
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11.mvfc.11 - 24 Oct 2016 11:31 AM
Holy shit JP has gone full salmon.

Meanwhile;

The poll with the best track record over the last three presidential elections gave Donald Trump a 2-percentage-point edge over Hillary Clinton on Saturday. The Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP tracking poll has Trump with 42.1 percent and Clinton at 39.7 percent.

The IBD/TIPP survey, which includes 791 likely voters and carries a margin of error of 3.6 percentage points, was the most accurate predictor of the final results in the last three presidential elections — calling the outcomes within 0.9 percent of the actual tally in 2004, 2008, and 2012.

http://nypost.com/2016/10/23/trump-leading-in-poll-that-has-best-track-record-over-last-three-elections/

Only a Trump supporter would ignore hundreds of other polls to cherry pick the single outlier that favours your candidate.
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Nate Silver is impartial lol?

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11.mvfc.11 - 24 Oct 2016 11:33 AM
The only person who wants to "build wars" aikhs, is Hillary. 

I was meant to say walls. I corrected the post.

yes well I support a non insular USA, unlike Trump.

it is America's responsibility now to put an end to the illegal war crimes being committed in Aleppo, and that would need to involve an escalation in the conflict and perhaps a direct confrontation with the Syrian regime, and possible even Russia. 

it's a sad indictment on humanity to allow these crimes to continue.

And Hillary is a lot more likely to take a tough stance and declare a No Fly Zone with a willing Coalition to enforce it. 
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paulbagzFC - 24 Oct 2016 11:36 AM
Nate Silver is impartial lol?

-PB

It is a statistical model. You can claim the model is wrong (although how a fish and chip shop owner could argue that is beyond me) but he isn't tampering with the model. It's essentially a poll aggregator.

In any case, he's a libertarian, so idk why you think he'd be a Clinton fan.
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grazorblade - 24 Oct 2016 9:14 AM
should have a tipping comp
here are the rules:
1. lowest score wins
2. 10 points for every seat wrong in the senate prediction (e.g. if you predict 50-50 and actual result is 52-48 thats 20 points)
3. 10 points for every point wrong in popular vote for president (e.g. if you predict 50-50 and actual result is 58.2 you get 82 points)
4. 1 point for every house seat wrong (e.g. predict 50-50 and actual result is 51-49 you get 10 points)
5. 10 points for every governors house different from prediction (e.g. if you predict 30-20 and actual result is 31-19 you get 10 points)

I'm going to go a small landslide
R to have 48 senate seats
In popular vote I'm going 9.1 point margin to dems
D to win 219 house seats
D to have 22 Governor mansions

I'm a little less optimistic:

R to have 48 Senate seats
Clinton to win the Presidency by 6.5 points
D to win 205 house seats
D to hold 20 governor's mansions


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