Qatar's Asian Cup flop augurs ill for 2018 World Cup shot


Qatar's Asian Cup flop augurs ill for 2018 World Cup shot

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50cal_Puskàs wrote:
In 50'c heat, even wood (head?) choppers like Qatar can be handful for un-acclimatised teams. Add to that the obligatoryily corrupt FIFAIL referees and you have yourself a round-of-16 or even QF in the bag. Remember Korea-Japan 2002...? \:d/


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Muntari looks like a good player. Could have had 6 goals against Bahrain!
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Well, Qatar are the worst team to be on the first EA Sports fifa international soccer game

*Put striker in front of Goalie when they go for goalkeeper kick*

*push jump button when goalie kicks it*

*Ricochet into goal*

Edited by condemned666: 21/1/2015 12:49:49 PM
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JonoMV wrote:
paladisious wrote:
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williamn wrote:
they will make for a good group of life. Imagine group a: Qatar, Nigeria, Slovenia, Australia. we'll be killing it at the world cup.

Don't think 2 asian sides can be drawn in the same group

IIRC as hosts Qatar would be one of the 8 seeds, so I think they could.

i always understood that outside of European seeds, all other seeds can not be drawn with the same confederation?

hence colombia, brazil, argentina, uruguay did not draw any south american sides at the last world cup.

I am assuming this will be the case for qatar.

Edited by jonomv: 21/1/2015 11:00:22 AM

Sounds about right. Lucky for the non seeded euro teams then.
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paladisious wrote:
JonoMV wrote:
williamn wrote:
they will make for a good group of life. Imagine group a: Qatar, Nigeria, Slovenia, Australia. we'll be killing it at the world cup.

Don't think 2 asian sides can be drawn in the same group

IIRC as hosts Qatar would be one of the 8 seeds, so I think they could.

i always understood that outside of European seeds, all other seeds can not be drawn with the same confederation?

hence colombia, brazil, argentina, uruguay did not draw any south american sides at the last world cup.

I am assuming this will be the case for qatar.

Edited by jonomv: 21/1/2015 11:00:22 AM
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JonoMV wrote:
williamn wrote:
they will make for a good group of life. Imagine group a: Qatar, Nigeria, Slovenia, Australia. we'll be killing it at the world cup.

Don't think 2 asian sides can be drawn in the same group

IIRC as hosts Qatar would be one of the 8 seeds, so I think they could.
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williamn wrote:
they will make for a good group of life. Imagine group a: Qatar, Nigeria, Slovenia, Australia. we'll be killing it at the world cup.

Don't think 2 asian sides can be drawn in the same group
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they will make for a good group of life. Imagine group a: Qatar, Nigeria, Slovenia, Australia. we'll be killing it at the world cup.
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i seriously think they will be fine. They are the current Under 19 Asian Cup Champions. Thanks to the investment and contacts in Europe the squad that won the Under 19 Asian Cup last year was mostly based in Europe. Clubs such as Villareal, Atletico Madrid, Sevilla, Real Madrid B, Then a Belgian 2nd league club which is owned by a Qatari has 4 Qatari's at that club, they have 2 players at Auxerre in France.

If they keep this up and every 2 years 1 or 2 players end up decent, which is likely to happen, by 2022 they will have a good enough side to be competitive at the world cup and even push to make it out of the group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_AFC_U-19_Championship_squads#.C2.A0Qatar
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Burztur wrote:
National pride is when your country buys the rights to host the world cup and then get pumped 8-0 in all your group games.


They play the beautiful game ](*,)


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Can't help but think if FIFA wanted to take the world cup anywhere in the middle east, the Emirates would have been ideal.

7 years left to nationalise anyone they can
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National pride is when your country buys the rights to host the world cup and then get pumped 8-0 in all your group games.
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TheSelectFew wrote:
I think slavery is also a little matter that should be addressed especially considering how bad it could look for the game if its run off the back of slaves.

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TheSelectFew wrote:
I think slavery is also a little matter that should be addressed especially considering how bad it could look for the game if its run off the back of slaves.


Yeah the quality of their football should really be the least of everyone's worries...

Latest reports of Nepalese migrant workers dying at a rate of 1 every 2 days and closer to 1 worker every day if taking into account Indian, Sri Lankan and Bangladeshi workers should be of more concern. But hey, what does that matter right?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/23/qatar-nepal-workers-world-cup-2022-death-toll-doha
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switters wrote:
Further complicating Belmadi's work is the fact that the majority of forwards in the cash-rich domestic league are foreigners, leaving him a dearth of forward talent to select from.


This is very interesting.
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Sloppy as shit defensively. I'm not used to seeing them play that way in all 3 games. Not sure what Belmadi was thinking. Tactically they played perfect, perfect for the opposition to score a shit tonne of goals. Usually they press like fucking S.Korea did to us in the last game. Thought they were as weak as piss. Maybe some of them never thought they'd leave the Gulf and were genuinely shocked to be in our beautiful country. Seen some mixed results so far


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They weren't pretty to watch tonight. Spurned some very decent chances.

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Nothing that a bit of cash won't solve.
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Qatar won't make it through round 2 of the next WCQs, seeded or not.
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But hey whatever. If they shut it down because the hosts are fucking shit, let it be.


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I think slavery is also a little matter that should be addressed especially considering how bad it could look for the game if its run off the back of slaves.


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Decentric wrote:
Would've thought the climatic conditions alne, extreme heat, would be enough to stop the Cup in Qatar if they are not going to play it in January.

Interesting to note their performances compared to other WC hosts.


They'll be right!
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Would've thought the climatic conditions alne, extreme heat, would be enough to stop the Cup in Qatar if they are not going to play it in January.

Interesting to note their performances compared to other WC hosts.
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By Nick Mulvenney

SYDNEY (Reuters) - The furore over the awarding of the 2022 World Cup to Qatar shows no sign of abating and a miserable Asian Cup showing by the Gulf nation indicates critics could soon have a solid footballing argument for opposing the move.

If Qatar fail to make it to the next World Cup in Russia in 2018, they would be the first hosts since the earliest days of the tournament never to have competed in a finals before welcoming football's showpiece event to their own shores.

In very different times, Italy hosted the 1934 World Cup without taking part in the first World Cup in 1930 but ever since, the host nation have earned the right to play in a finals at least once before qualifying automatically for their own tournament.

Qatar's failure to progress beyond the group stage at the Asian Cup after three defeats against just the sort of countries they will need to beat to qualify for the 2018 World Cup makes this scenario now look highly likely.

The man currently charged with building a squad capable of competing at the very top table in 2018 and 2022 is former Marseille midfielder Djamel Belmadi, who took over after Qatar failed to reach last year's finals in Brazil.

SIMPLY FOUNDERED

The Algerian has enjoyed some success in his brief time in charge, winning the West Asian Football Federation Championship last January and the Gulf Cup in November, but his squad simply foundered in Australia.

Stunned 4-1 by the United Arab Emirates in their opener and beaten 1-0 by an effervescent Iran in their second match, they spurned a string of chances and lost 2-1 to Bahrain on Monday.

"We wanted to win a game here at least, we came with a lot of expectation, we lost all three so obviously, we are very disappointed. For the positive things, I will think of those later," Belmadi said.

"We had three competitions this year, we won two of them. I'm not sure the Asian Cup performance is about our level, maybe it is too much for us to play too many competitions in one year."

With an eye to the future, the Algerian brought a young squad to Australia with only one of his 23 over the age of 30.

Two players of African heritage -- Mohammad Abdullah and Mohammed Muntari -- were included even though neither had been capped by Qatar before and Belmadi said inexperience explained if not excused the team's poor showing.

"If we work well with this squad we can have a future," he told reporters after the loss to Iran.

"There are many things we need to fix in our country and with our league, our federation, to give a chance to these players to improve.

"We didn't come here for experience, we wanted to qualify for the second stage.

"But I still believe in this group. They have quality and if we take care of them, we can have a better team for the next qualification for the World Cup."

TALENT LACKING

Further complicating Belmadi's work is the fact that the majority of forwards in the cash-rich domestic league are foreigners, leaving him a dearth of forward talent to select from.

Despite Muntari being the worst offender in missing chances against Bahrain, Belmadi said he thought the youngster was still the solution to Qatar's lack of a genuine threat up front.

"This was his first tournament with the national team," he said.

"Today he was unlucky, he had a lot of touches and got in good positions, he will be good for the future because we lacked a real No.9 and even if didn't score in this competition, I know he will score in the future."

The Qataris came closest to qualifying for the World Cup in 1997 when, needing a draw from their last qualifier against Saudi Arabia to get to France '98, they lost 1-0.

Having gone through almost a coach a year since then, Belmadi might not make it through to qualifying for the 2018 World Cup, let alone the 2022 campaign.

"You need to ask the federation," he said when asked about his job security.

"If you want to talk about football, talk to me. If you want to talk about the future, talk to the Federation."

(Reporting by Nick Mulvenney, editing by Sudipto Ganguly and Mike Collett)

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/26037311/qatars-asian-cup-flop-augurs-ill-for-2018-world-cup-shot/
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