Happy Australia Day to those who observe it...

After 227 years I personally think that we need to become a Republic, move out from under our parents roof and set about making our own place in the world.

For me the Republic is more than just a change of name or a chance for a different celebration its about our identity. How we see ourselves and how we want the world to see us...

I'd be interested in other forumers views on this issue. If you really want to stay as a Commonwealth nation I'd like to know why.

Thoughts on 'your' view of a Republic also welcome here.

All hail Grand Chancellor Palmer.

- A head of state that will never be Australian and until recently had to be a proddy and preferably male. not to mention the whole institution of England's monarchy being totally at odds with the concept of democracy and responsible for the suffering of untold numbers over millennia.
- A flag that contains the flag of a foreign empire responsible for the invasion, suffering and oppression of many nations and countless families, both here and abroad.
- An anthem that in its full version has verses talking of raising England's flag, Britannia ruling the waves and england being the fatherland.

That isn't state symbols worthy of a sovereign state but rather a glorified colony. Republic, new anthem and a new flag for all Australians, not just those who grovel at the feet of some posh twats on a fancy chair.

Edited by melbourne_terrace: 26/1/2015 10:19:44 AM

It'll happen.

I just hope the new flag isn't something awful.

Speaking of Brittania, Abbott showing his true colours today by making Prince Phillip a knight of Australia. Our last two PM's weren't even born here.

Personally, I'm a commonwealth guy. Purely for family and traditional reasons.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by family and traditional reasons? Because you have British heritage?

I would support the creation of the Former British Republic of Australia, or FBROA for short.

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Yep, and that British heritage means a lot to my two Grandmothers, and having met all my cousins and relatives in England, I suppose it's just nice to have that link at a formal level.

I used to be a monarchist until I went to the UK and saw how poor, overcrowded and awful it was.

We are so far ahead of them in almost every way.

The British should be asking to be part of the Australian Empire, but they would only drag us down.

:lol: as Daniel Townes says, "You're the ones who gave away a paradise and kept a fucking shit hole!"

Personally, I don't care either way.

If things were happening like they were during the Whitlam scandal I might have a different view, but British interference really isn't a modern day issue with the Queen and the Windsor Monarchy being mere figureheads.

Republicanism did nothing to save the American political process, and I fail to see how it would do anything to benefit us.

I could be swayed with a compelling argument either way, but I'm yet to see one that I care for so far.

Thanks mcjules

It's been ages since I've seen that footage.

The UK is an epic shithole.

Its worse than Taree.

Republicanism did everything for the USA. Before they became a republic they were a series of colonies with no common purpose or national identity.

Whatever you think of the USA today you cannot deny their place in the world, their confidence and their unmistakable identity.

I take your point that the system they created was ideal for 10m people not 380m. That's not the fault of them becoming a republic but of failing to enhance their political system to meet their modern needs.

The reality is our National Holiday marks an achievement of another country... exploring and colonising a new land. This is not the Australia we should celebrate.

As I eluded to above. After 227 years it's time to grow up, move out and start our own family. The Republic of Australia does change who we are and how we define ourselves. And that is a very good thing.

Well said. I don't think it's about changing the political process at least from a domestic perspective. We could remove the British Monarch as our head of state and rename the Governor-General to President keeping it mostly a ceremonial role. It's all about about changing how we represent ourselves to be more inline with what we as people see ourselves as. I hope there's more of us that see us as independent and less of us who almost act as if we're british first and australian second.

Remove the G-G and monarch and just have the prime minister as our head of state.

If that's what it takes to become a republic I can like with that. I do like the idea of an apolitical head of state though.

m8 as long as we stop da botes I don't give a fuck

Shorten brought this up as a Diversion tactic as Qld people are asking about connections between Labor, Bikies and the Unions.

The Head of State is explicitly required to be apolitical. i.e. A popularly elected President who represents the country in a ceremonial capacity. The PM is merely the leader of the legislature, and not the executive. Two distinct arms of government.

As to the broader issue, I welcome the immanent destruction of the parasitic, inbred German family in this country's affairs. A republic represents, before anything else, one's desire for self respect and the repudiation of the slave mentality. Don't see why the Southern Cross flag isn't perfectly representative of this country.

Fuck that, would rather NQ break away from the rest of QLD first.

-PB

Becoming a republic will not solve anything. Especially if the idiots that make up most of the population keep electing fuckheads to rule over the country.

=; just be happy you're not nsw anymore

Yes it will solve something and it has been discussed already in this thread.


It won't solve that and no one is pretending that it will...

Didn't realise the two are related. I'd rather do it before as any constitutional changes require a majority in all states as well as a popular majority.

Edited by mcjules: 26/1/2015 08:14:57 PM

In our current constitution it's required but we'd need to rewrite the constitution to be come a republic so it doesn't necessarily have to be. I think it should be but the POTUS for example is clearly political so it does happen in other places.


I'd have no issue with the Southern Cross flag.

We can keep the head of the church of England as our top dog IMO. We wouldnt want the non Anglos getting the wrong idea about where they actually live.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.