Unprofitable ( AFL ) clubs get millions in aid from AFL


Unprofitable ( AFL ) clubs get millions in aid from AFL

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Worth keeping an eye on this, especially as I reckon the sheet is gonna hit the fan soon….
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Don't the AFL post all their financials and annual reports on their website?

Those reports include all the millions they give to their clubs - so I'm not sure how this is an EXCLUSIVE or some investigative scoop?

......and agree - not sure what its doing on this thread anyway.


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Oblivious Troll wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Australian Football.

Mods move it to extra time and give Paulc the flick while you're at it


It has everything to do with it. We need easy access to such material (ie. I never bother looking at Extra Time) as it demonstrates that even successful codes like ALF struggle to make an operating profit across the actual participants.



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South Sydney Rabbitohs have been fined $20,000 by the NRL over the incident in Arizona which saw players John Sutton and Luke Burgess arrested, but the pair will not miss any games.

The NRL's chief operating officer Suzanne Young announced the fine at a press conference on Monday.











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Sutton and Burgess spent a night behind bars during the team's trip to Arizona for a training camp in November after they were ejected from a bar.

Young revealed a misdemeanour compromise payment had been made to a security guard that allegedly fought with Burgess, and that there is a confidentiality agreement between the players and the security guard.

Young said the club "did not follow the matter to its conclusion" but insisted the disciplinary action taken was sufficient.

Sutton was stripped of the co-captaincy, while Burgess has been released by the club, signing with Manly.

The NRL's integrity unit was criticised for not initially investigating the incident. When details emerged of the arrests in February, the NRL announced it would reopen investigations.

"We are looking at systems and processes that we can improve (within the integrity unit)," Young said.

Shane Richardson, who was South Sydney's chief executive at the time of the incident and is now the NRL's head of game strategy and development, was cleared of any wrongdoing.

"There is no evidence to show Shane Richardson, who was CEO at the time, or any other official was aware of the payment," Young said.

"They should have made further inquiries to whether a payment had been made."

Rabbitohs considering stance on breach notice

The Rabbitohs acknowledged receipt of the NRL's breach notice on Monday, saying they would reserve comment until the club had "determined its position on the matter."

"The club will consider its position on this matter over the next five business days and reserves the right to respond to the breach notice on both the merits of the findings and the serverity of the proposed penalty.

"The club notes that there is no proposed finding by the NRL that the club had actual knowledge that the dismissal of the charges was based on a lawful financial compromise.

"Nor has the NRL sought to vary the sanctions imposed by the club on the players concerned."



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melbourne_terrace wrote:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Australian Football.

Mods move it to extra time and give Paulc the flick while you're at it


It has everything to do with it. We need easy access to such material (ie. I never bother looking at Extra Time) as it demonstrates that even successful codes like ALF struggle to make an operating profit across the actual participants.

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melbourne_terrace wrote:
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TheSelectFew wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Australian Football.

Mods move it to extra time and give Paulc the flick while you're at it


Its long overdue.


Only those with real traditional football kulcha are allowed on this forum right :lol:

Haven't you been banned enough to be taught a lesson.


Using the word Kulcha should be ban worthy in itself. Beyond cringeworthy.


:lol:

A definition from a fouled mouth criminal mind wanting his own way.

Half the forum would be gone if that was the case. :lol:

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paulc wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Australian Football.

Mods move it to extra time and give Paulc the flick while you're at it


Its long overdue.


Only those with real traditional football kulcha are allowed on this forum right :lol:

Haven't you been banned enough to be taught a lesson.


Using the word Kulcha should be ban worthy in itself. Beyond cringeworthy.

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paulc wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Australian Football.

Mods move it to extra time and give Paulc the flick while you're at it


Its long overdue.


Only those with real traditional football kulcha are allowed on this forum right :lol:

Haven't you been banned enough to be taught a lesson.


Yawn.


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TheSelectFew wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Australian Football.

Mods move it to extra time and give Paulc the flick while you're at it


Its long overdue.


Only those with real traditional football kulcha are allowed on this forum right :lol:

Haven't you been banned enough to be taught a lesson.

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melbourne_terrace wrote:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Australian Football.

Mods move it to extra time and give Paulc the flick while you're at it


Its long overdue.


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melbourne_terrace wrote:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Australian Football.

Mods move it to extra time and give Paulc the flick while you're at it


Not enough violent talk for you? :lol:

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This has absolutely nothing to do with Australian Football.

Mods move it to extra time and give Paulc the flick while you're at it

Viennese Vuck

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I'd fold the plastic AFL and replace it with traditional teams with kulcha.



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Grand-final winner Hawthorn is considered the strongest of the Victorian clubs, along with Collingwood. Hawthorn recorded a $3.4 million profit last year from about $67 million revenue


Wasn't Collingwood given the expensive training ground and facilities at AAMI Park with the aid of taxpayer's money?


Close. They were given the old Olympic Park and the Glass House which is right next door to AAMI Park. Forced Athletics Vic out of OP and into Lakeside.


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once what shapes as a $1.75 billion television broadcast rights deal is completed later this year


I think they can afford it.
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Grand-final winner Hawthorn is considered the strongest of the Victorian clubs, along with Collingwood. Hawthorn recorded a $3.4 million profit last year from about $67 million revenue


Wasn't Collingwood given the expensive training ground and facilities at AAMI Park with the aid of taxpayer's money?

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Isn't this FourFourTwo? Embarrassing.

Anyway. AFL gives out extra money to lesser clubs to compensate for the unevan fixture. Bigger clubs get more lucrative times lots like Friday nights. Not sure how this is relevant to us.
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Unprofitable clubs get millions in aid from AFL
March 1, 2015
John Stensholt and Jon Pierik

The financial health of the 18 AFL clubs has been laid bare, with only six making profits without substantial help from the league's governing body, an analysis of the competition's finances shows.

While several clubs in Melbourne have announced operating profits for 2014 in the past few months, a Fairfax Media investigation has found the annual reports posted by the clubs or lodged with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission show many did so only with additional funding from the AFL.

Collingwood, Essendon, Hawthorn and Richmond were the only ones of 10 Victorian clubs to achieve profits in their own right, as did the West Coast Eagles and Fremantle. Essendon's $720,000 profit, however, was boosted by about $700,000 worth of donations.

The 10 Victorian clubs are also carrying about $46 million in combined debts, though some of that is related to gaming businesses.

It has also emerged an independent auditor with a strong interest in the league has claimed that only 40 per cent of AFL income is parlayed to the clubs.

Club chiefs are worried about the rising costs they face, and have expressed concerns the players will soon pocket too great a pay rise. This will come in a new collective bargaining agreement, to be brokered once what shapes as a $1.75 billion television broadcast rights deal is completed later this year.

AFL Players Association chief Paul Marsh has made it clear he believes the players remuneration must leap significantly, declaring recently it was an "indictment" that only Gold Coast Suns champion Gary Ablett appeared on BRW's top-50 list of Australian sports earners.

Grand-final winner Hawthorn is considered the strongest of the Victorian clubs, along with Collingwood. Hawthorn recorded a $3.4 million profit last year from about $67 million revenue. It made about $18 million revenue from its gaming business, and another $2 million income from accommodation sources.

Hawthorn has also got $6.3 million invested in equities and term deposits and has a new $250,000 innovation fund established with seed capital from former director and Flight Centre co-founder and BRW Rich List member Geoff Harris.

The 10 Victorian teams made just over $500 million combined revenue in 2014, about 20 per cent of which came from gaming and poker machine incomes.

North Melbourne was the only club in Victoria not to have income from poker machines. While the Kangaroos announced a small operating profit of $420,000 from revenue of about $34 million, the profit was only achieved with $2.8 million in additional funds from the AFL in future fund distributions.

Both Adelaide teams also recorded big losses in 2014, despite attracting huge crowds after moving to a refurbished Adelaide Oval. The Adelaide Crows lost $408,011 even after a 43 per cent increase in crowds, while Port Adelaide lost a whopping $2.5 million.

Adelaide and Port Adelaide are both locked in talks with stadium authorities that should see them gain access to further commercial and match-day revenue from home matches and say their financial positions are sound. Brisbane Lions will also receive additional assistance after recording a $3.5 million operating loss, while Greater Western Sydney and the Gold Coast Suns still require large dollops of AFL funding to remain sustainable.

The Giants dealt with a drop in revenue of $1.4 million last year, with merchandise and membership down by more than $300,000.

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan says the league and its clubs face financial "challenges".

"I think we've got challenges at a lot of our clubs in terms of this disparity between the strong and the less strong, GWS is one of those (clubs)," McLachlan said.

"They are a start-up club in a very tough market who's got an extraordinarily talented list, but the reality of their list-build means they've won [nine] games in 66.

"So I'm very confident long-term, we know it's a generational decision and the guys up there are working really hard."

The Western Bulldogs, which announced an operating profit of $329,000, also received $2.8 million in AFL future fund distributions. Melbourne got an extra $2.27 million from the same source, helping it to a $284,000 operating profit.

St Kilda will receive an additional $3.8 million from the AFL in 2014 after recording a $3.91 million loss from $30 million in 2014. Carlton also made a loss in 2014 of $1.6 million as did Geelong, recording a small $280,000 deficit.

The Sydney Swans announced a profit of about $846,000 but received about $12 million in AFL funding, higher than many clubs including the likes of Collingwood, Essendon and Hawthorn.


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/unprofitable-clubs-get-millions-in-aid-from-afl-20150301-13rqwm.html
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