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Quote:Among all the frocks, make-up, leather, feathers, studs, and swimwear at the 2015 Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras will be something peculiar at the parade's centrepiece - footballers.
The main float at this year's event tackles one of the last remaining strongholds of homophobia in contemporary society - sport. Football will be joining forces with all major codes in a fight to stamp out discrimination by deploying ambassadors.
Rhyan Grant, Thea Slatyer, Sunni Hughes and Paul Reid will stand alongside the likes of Matthew Mitcham, Daniel Kowalski, Greg Matthews and Paul Langmack in showing their support for LGBT rights. It is the biggest show of such statement from football, but that could soon change.
Football Federation Australia is set to unveil an advisory group focusing on anti-homophobia and the organisation's Head of Community and Women's football, Emma Highwood, says the next stage will turn its attention towards the A-League which has the greatest reach to football's widest audience.
"The A-League is the best tool we have to raise awareness, so to have key messages and ambassadors addressing the key issues in the game and actually start to promote some positive messaging," Highwood said. "For us it's also about educating the community as well so having good education systems in place at grass roots level."
The harsh reality is that sport lags behind the rest of Australian culture in terms of the prevalence of homophobia. Based on a national study conducted last year involving 2500 participations, 85 per cent of gay or lesbian athletes of all levels experienced or witnessed homophobic abuse as well as three-quarters of heterosexual athletes.
Gay men are the most vulnerable, with one in four reporting ongoing cases of abuse, bullying and threats.
Women's football has a history of addressing homophobia, with Australian clubs having worn rainbow coloured socks to promote gender and sexual diversity in sport.
The game could soon become the first major code to have jerseys raising awareness for gay rights and anti-homophobia. A rainbow strip, or iconic mardi gras jerseys in the A-League as part of a public campaign, is regarded as the strongest message of equality football can send to the community.
"A jersey, I think, is a fantastic idea and the rainbow socks is something we've done in the W-League with Canberra United in the past. But we have to have a clear PR strategy around it because otherwise people will see those and not know the relevance," Highwood said.
As a message, it goes further than reactive punishments of abusers but shows unequivocal support. Sydney FC has been involved with the anti-homophobia campaigns such as the LGBT football competition, the Pride Cup, and was quick to have representation at this year's mardi gras. The club's chief executive, Tony Pignata, did not rule out extending their support to a one-off jersey bearing the rainbow flag for future seasons.
"I've never thought about it, to be honest, but it's something we could consider, definitely," Pignata said. "We will definitely support it [the mardi gras]. We were very supportive of the Pride football tournament."
A Western Sydney Wanderers' spokesman said the club were not asked to be involved but they supported the movement.
For those working with major codes in creating anti-homophobia programs, such symbolism and public recognition is viewed as the strongest statement sport could make.
"Jerseys would be a great idea," Bingham Cup president Andrew Purchas said. "Those symbols are really important and that's the difference from just making sure you're not vilifying somebody but actually going out and saying they will support them in their sport."
In 10 years of the A-League there has never been an openly gay player but that's not uncommon by global standards. In February 2013, Robbie Rogers became just the second male player in Britain to come out as gay with the pioneer, Justin Fashanu in 1990, suffering years of abuse before his tragic death.
Homophobic banners used as insults have been visible in past games and there's a poorly kept secret from the 2007-08 season of one player attacking a teammate in the dressing room because he was gay.
It's a culture that is not exclusive to football and trickles down to the grassroots levels of all sport, but it's a matter football is looking to change.
"People don't have to be out and we don't want to force that upon them, but we want to create an environment where they feel safe to do so if they choose," Highwood said.
If the Sydney mardi gras is an event that sets the standard for the world's fight to end homophobia, it's only fitting for Australian clubs to lead that battle within global football. No game in this country has a history of being more welcoming of "sheilas" and "wogs". Now is the time to extend that to one more demographic. http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/football-gets-onboard-with-other-athletes-to-support-the-gay-and-lesbian-mardi-gras-20150306-13wxdw.htmlHomophobics, either park your hoola hoop at the front door, or just stay the fuck out of this thread entirely. Mods, please actively patrol this thread, and be ready to delete any homophobic comments. Fantastic to see our club get behind the movement. Rainbow kits would be fucking awesome. Perhaps around the time of Mardi Gras we could have a 'Mardi Gras round' in support of LGBT rights. Whilst I'm not intending to turn this into a shit-slinging thread, it's disappointing to see the Wanderers not get behind this. A united show of strengths would go leaps and bounds for this issue, and it shouldn't have to be "invite only". Like I mentioned, it'd be fantastic to see one day all A-League clubs united for this cause. You certainly won't see too many NRL and AFL clubs throwing their weight behind it. Edited by Joffa: 8/3/2015 10:10:48 PM
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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Xtra time?
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Why? It's about Australian football, and an Australian football team, getting behind a serious issue in not just in football, and sport alone, but society as a whole. Edited by Heineken: 7/3/2015 05:12:21 AM
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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Heineken wrote:Why? It's about Australian football, and an Australian football team, getting behind a serious issue in not just in football, and sport alone, but society as a whole. Edited by Heineken: 7/3/2015 05:12:21 AM Everytime sfc serves a community function, visiting hospitals, supporting people/cause is it australian football? You are in a media hub and get more attention than other teams. Extra time.
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The article is about the FFA support not Sydney FC but well done turning it into one about you. Canberra is also mentioned, as are the Wanderers, who say "we support the idea"
So yes you have turned it into a shit slinging thread.
Anyway well done to the FFA would like continue to do this
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Quote:Rhyan Grant, Thea Slatyer, Sunni Hughes and Paul Reid will stand alongside the likes of Matthew Mitcham, Daniel Kowalski, Greg Matthews and Paul Langmack in showing their support for LGBT rights. Not saying they have to be, but are any of those other than Mitcham and Kowalski LGBT?
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Top stuff!
Maybe kick on to the Beresford for the after party ;)
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Trust a Sydney fan to turn this into some sort of dick measuring contest.
Edited by prosecutor: 7/3/2015 10:28:14 AM
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Heineken wrote:
Homophobics, either park your hoola hoop at the front door, or just stay the fuck out of this thread entirely. Mods, please actively patrol this thread, and be ready to delete any homophobic comments.
you see sir, it's this sort of aggressive militant gun loaded and ready to fire attitude that shits people up. by all means, support your homosexual causes but when you come across as preachy and you have your gun out ready to shoot at anyone with labels who may think differently or disagree with your position, that's when the intolerance weakens your very good causes. just a tip champ
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Has a your briefed Seb Ryall??????
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They can have that to themselves
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Needs Janko on a float in a dress imo. -PB
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batfink wrote:Has a your briefed Seb Ryall?????? he is only interested in 13 or younger
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fatboi-v- wrote:Heineken wrote:
Homophobics, either park your hoola hoop at the front door, or just stay the fuck out of this thread entirely. Mods, please actively patrol this thread, and be ready to delete any homophobic comments.
you see sir, it's this sort of aggressive militant gun loaded and ready to fire attitude that shits people up. by all means, support your homosexual causes but when you come across as preachy and you have your gun out ready to shoot at anyone with labels who may think differently or disagree with your position, that's when the intolerance weakens your very good causes. just a tip champ =d>
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Way to live up to your stereotype
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You can't go one thread without mentioning WSW :lol:
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Veiled pun in the article title
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melbourne_terrace wrote:Way to live up to your stereotype It says more about you and T-Unit that you view this supposed stereotype as a negative thing.
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Quote:Homophobics, either park your hoola hoop at the front door, or just stay the fuck out of this thread entirely. Mods, please actively patrol this thread, and be ready to delete any homophobic comments. In other words, you want people to agree with your point of view and if we dare have a different opinion, you want the comment to get deleted. Is that how it works in your world? PS - I haven't seen any other community work threads in the football section before, this would be better suited to Extra Time.
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Great stuff!
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Excellent stuff. Good to see the many homosexuals in the cove accepted. A step in the right direction.
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Prosecutor wrote:Excellent stuff. Good to see the many homosexuals in the cove accepted. A step in the right direction. You really are a fucking idiot.
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Prosecutor wrote:Excellent stuff. Good to see the many homosexuals in the cove accepted. A step in the right direction. I agree. Fantastic to see so many cove members stand up for something which affects so many of them at a personal level.
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Being called gay either in the stands of on the field shouldn't be seen as an insult. It is a low act to turn someone's off field activities into an insult.
The Matilda's have just undergone a nasty sexiest and derogatory match in Cyrpus by the UK army. We wouldn't and we don't accept that why should the above be acceptable
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Post_hoc wrote:Being called gay either in the stands of on the field shouldn't be seen as an insult. It is a low act to turn someone's off field activities into an insult.
The Matilda's have just undergone a nasty sexiest and derogatory match in Cyrpus by the UK army. We wouldn't and we don't accept that why should the above be acceptable =d> Spot on.
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sydneyfc1987 wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Way to live up to your stereotype It says more about you and T-Unit that you view this supposed stereotype as a negative thing. Not really. I have no issue with homosexuality. I respect you and your boyfriend's relationship 100%. If 2 people want to be together, that is their decision and nobody elses. All I did was post a picture of the Cove supporting the gay community. You turned it into a negative connotation. :d Edited by t-unit: 7/3/2015 04:29:49 PM
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RedKat wrote:Sydney FC- The only club for all of Sydney. Assuming Sydney's boundaries do not extend beyond the Anzac Bridge.
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robstazzz wrote:fatboi-v- wrote:Heineken wrote:
Homophobics, either park your hoola hoop at the front door, or just stay the fuck out of this thread entirely. Mods, please actively patrol this thread, and be ready to delete any homophobic comments.
you see sir, it's this sort of aggressive militant gun loaded and ready to fire attitude that shits people up. by all means, support your homosexual causes but when you come across as preachy and you have your gun out ready to shoot at anyone with labels who may think differently or disagree with your position, that's when the intolerance weakens your very good causes. just a tip champ =d> good work fellas. you'd only post in opposition to this if you were a homophobe. god forbid those homosexuals might want to defend themselves.
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I heard Ryall was going to turn up before he realised the boys would be over 16 years of age.
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There should be a float dedicated to Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022
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did you seriously expect a mature discussion on 442?? C'mon Heiny, you've been on here long enough not to expect that from AF.
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"sydney FC gets behind.." snigger, snigger, chortle
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no-one should be judged based on sexuality. i think every team should get behind this and put this homophobic shit to bed
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sydneyfc1987 wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Way to live up to your stereotype It says more about you and T-Unit that you view this supposed stereotype as a negative thing. Yeah nah I have no issue with the gay community and am all for their rights to do as they please, but I'd still rather not have my club known as the gay club like Sydney is. Edited by melbourne_terrace: 7/3/2015 08:02:10 PM
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lukerobinho wrote:They can have that to themselves Thinks unions are evil? Check. Thinks climate change is a hoax by scientists? Check. Thinks supporting gay rights is bad? Check. If only you acted as tough as melbourne_terrace (Hey son, we didn't meet in Melbourne, why;d you ignore me?), you'd probably take #1 spot as actual non-troll dipshit on here.
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u4486662 wrote:robstazzz wrote:fatboi-v- wrote:Heineken wrote:
Homophobics, either park your hoola hoop at the front door, or just stay the fuck out of this thread entirely. Mods, please actively patrol this thread, and be ready to delete any homophobic comments.
you see sir, it's this sort of aggressive militant gun loaded and ready to fire attitude that shits people up. by all means, support your homosexual causes but when you come across as preachy and you have your gun out ready to shoot at anyone with labels who may think differently or disagree with your position, that's when the intolerance weakens your very good causes. just a tip champ =d> good work fellas. you'd only post in opposition to this if you were a homophobe. god forbid those homosexuals might want to defend themselves. shut up and get off your high horse. my only issue was the idiot who posted should just have posted the bloody information and left it open for an open discussion. the fact that he chose to insert some sort of pre-emptive defense just shows how terrified he is of free speech. feel free to post anything you want but why the need to insert some sort of censorship is unnecessarily stupid
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u4486662 wrote:robstazzz wrote:fatboi-v- wrote:Heineken wrote:
Homophobics, either park your hoola hoop at the front door, or just stay the fuck out of this thread entirely. Mods, please actively patrol this thread, and be ready to delete any homophobic comments.
you see sir, it's this sort of aggressive militant gun loaded and ready to fire attitude that shits people up. by all means, support your homosexual causes but when you come across as preachy and you have your gun out ready to shoot at anyone with labels who may think differently or disagree with your position, that's when the intolerance weakens your very good causes. just a tip champ =d> good work fellas. you'd only post in opposition to this if you were a homophobe. god forbid those homosexuals might want to defend themselves. shut up and get off your high horse. my only issue was the idiot who posted should just have posted the bloody information and left it open for an open discussion. the fact that he chose to insert some sort of pre-emptive defense just shows how terrified he is of free speech. feel free to post anything you want but why the need to insert some sort of censorship is unnecessarily stupid
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melbourne_terrace wrote:sydneyfc1987 wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Way to live up to your stereotype It says more about you and T-Unit that you view this supposed stereotype as a negative thing. Yeah nah I have no issue with the gay community and am all for their rights to do as they please, but I'd still rather not have my club known as the gay club like Sydney is. Edited by melbourne_terrace: 7/3/2015 08:02:10 PM Nothing wrong with being known as the gay club. Sydney has certainly accepted this and their support for their fellow supporters should be followed by all.
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Prosecutor wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:sydneyfc1987 wrote:melbourne_terrace wrote:Way to live up to your stereotype It says more about you and T-Unit that you view this supposed stereotype as a negative thing. Yeah nah I have no issue with the gay community and am all for their rights to do as they please, but I'd still rather not have my club known as the gay club like Sydney is. Edited by melbourne_terrace: 7/3/2015 08:02:10 PM Nothing wrong with being known as the gay club. Sydney has certainly accepted this and their support for their fellow supporters should be followed by all. Literally no problem with being called "gay". We represent a population and area of Sydney that is more likely to have a straight bloke and a gay bloke shake hands rather than have a bottle smashed over the top of ones head or be threatened with the eternal damnation of Jesus or Allah for "choosing to be a faggot". Might be worthwhile suggesting to those gym-junkies who are covered in prison tats who half-nakedly climb all over each while singing songs together every two weeks, that they might want to take a look in the mirror sometime. Social progress kind of depends on the ability to read and analyse situations though... Maybe next century. Edited by Draupnir: 7/3/2015 10:10:02 PM
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fatboi-v- wrote:u4486662 wrote:robstazzz wrote:fatboi-v- wrote:Heineken wrote:
Homophobics, either park your hoola hoop at the front door, or just stay the fuck out of this thread entirely. Mods, please actively patrol this thread, and be ready to delete any homophobic comments.
you see sir, it's this sort of aggressive militant gun loaded and ready to fire attitude that shits people up. by all means, support your homosexual causes but when you come across as preachy and you have your gun out ready to shoot at anyone with labels who may think differently or disagree with your position, that's when the intolerance weakens your very good causes. just a tip champ =d> good work fellas. you'd only post in opposition to this if you were a homophobe. god forbid those homosexuals might want to defend themselves. shut up and get off your high horse. my only issue was the idiot who posted should just have posted the bloody information and left it open for an open discussion. the fact that he chose to insert some sort of pre-emptive defense just shows how terrified he is of free speech. feel free to post anything you want but why the need to insert some sort of censorship is unnecessarily stupid Don't even waste your time trying to explain yourself. Your first post was very clear, yet some people on this forum just can't resist twisting and turning people's words and labelling them homophobic. Edited by robstazzz: 7/3/2015 10:26:33 PM
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robstazzz wrote:fatboi-v- wrote:u4486662 wrote:robstazzz wrote:fatboi-v- wrote:Heineken wrote:
Homophobics, either park your hoola hoop at the front door, or just stay the fuck out of this thread entirely. Mods, please actively patrol this thread, and be ready to delete any homophobic comments.
you see sir, it's this sort of aggressive militant gun loaded and ready to fire attitude that shits people up. by all means, support your homosexual causes but when you come across as preachy and you have your gun out ready to shoot at anyone with labels who may think differently or disagree with your position, that's when the intolerance weakens your very good causes. just a tip champ =d> good work fellas. you'd only post in opposition to this if you were a homophobe. god forbid those homosexuals might want to defend themselves. shut up and get off your high horse. my only issue was the idiot who posted should just have posted the bloody information and left it open for an open discussion. the fact that he chose to insert some sort of pre-emptive defense just shows how terrified he is of free speech. feel free to post anything you want but why the need to insert some sort of censorship is unnecessarily stupid Don't even waste your time trying to explain yourself. Your first post was very clear, yet some people on this forum just can't resist twisting and turning people's words and labelling them homophobic. Edited by robstazzz: 7/3/2015 10:26:33 PM Really, I'm not sure how else "support your homosexual causes" could be construed other than he doesn't like gay people? The fact that he even has a problem with it says more than enough like u4486662 said. I feel sorry for you that you can't even see it. Edited by Draupnir: 8/3/2015 01:10:55 AM
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Swarth wrote:batfink wrote:Has a your briefed Seb Ryall?????? he is only interested in 13 or younger Sydney FC's own version of the Blue Groper.:lol: Edited by SocaWho: 8/3/2015 01:25:10 AM
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So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban. Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots.
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TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses.
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Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. I honestly couldnt careless who sleeps with who or who loves who. I do care with people bashing their chests claiming that people are Neanderthals for not accepting gay marriage. The church is a religious institution.
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Draupnir wrote:robstazzz wrote:fatboi-v- wrote:u4486662 wrote:robstazzz wrote:fatboi-v- wrote:Heineken wrote:
Homophobics, either park your hoola hoop at the front door, or just stay the fuck out of this thread entirely. Mods, please actively patrol this thread, and be ready to delete any homophobic comments.
you see sir, it's this sort of aggressive militant gun loaded and ready to fire attitude that shits people up. by all means, support your homosexual causes but when you come across as preachy and you have your gun out ready to shoot at anyone with labels who may think differently or disagree with your position, that's when the intolerance weakens your very good causes. just a tip champ =d> good work fellas. you'd only post in opposition to this if you were a homophobe. god forbid those homosexuals might want to defend themselves. shut up and get off your high horse. my only issue was the idiot who posted should just have posted the bloody information and left it open for an open discussion. the fact that he chose to insert some sort of pre-emptive defense just shows how terrified he is of free speech. feel free to post anything you want but why the need to insert some sort of censorship is unnecessarily stupid Don't even waste your time trying to explain yourself. Your first post was very clear, yet some people on this forum just can't resist twisting and turning people's words and labelling them homophobic. Edited by robstazzz: 7/3/2015 10:26:33 PM Really, I'm not sure how else "support your homosexual causes" could be construed other than he doesn't like gay people? The fact that he even has a problem with it says more than enough like u4486662 said. I feel sorry for you that you can't even see it. Edited by Draupnir: 8/3/2015 01:10:55 AM Sorry if this sounds rude but just like I said to fatboi there is no point explaining some things to others who would never understand so I won't even waste my time.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. I honestly couldnt careless who sleeps with who or who loves who. I do care with people bashing their chests claiming that people are Neanderthals for not accepting gay marriage. The church is a religious institution. No the church hides child molesters, as the pope acknowledged and religion is accountable for half of the crap going on the world. Sorry but I thought Christianity preached tolerance and understanding. The inquisition I suppose is more in line with modern thinking, you know "lets behead some poor fucker who doesn't share our beliefs".
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robstazzz wrote:Draupnir wrote:robstazzz wrote:fatboi-v- wrote:u4486662 wrote:robstazzz wrote:fatboi-v- wrote:Heineken wrote:
Homophobics, either park your hoola hoop at the front door, or just stay the fuck out of this thread entirely. Mods, please actively patrol this thread, and be ready to delete any homophobic comments.
you see sir, it's this sort of aggressive militant gun loaded and ready to fire attitude that shits people up. by all means, support your homosexual causes but when you come across as preachy and you have your gun out ready to shoot at anyone with labels who may think differently or disagree with your position, that's when the intolerance weakens your very good causes. just a tip champ =d> good work fellas. you'd only post in opposition to this if you were a homophobe. god forbid those homosexuals might want to defend themselves. shut up and get off your high horse. my only issue was the idiot who posted should just have posted the bloody information and left it open for an open discussion. the fact that he chose to insert some sort of pre-emptive defense just shows how terrified he is of free speech. feel free to post anything you want but why the need to insert some sort of censorship is unnecessarily stupid Don't even waste your time trying to explain yourself. Your first post was very clear, yet some people on this forum just can't resist twisting and turning people's words and labelling them homophobic. Edited by robstazzz: 7/3/2015 10:26:33 PM Really, I'm not sure how else "support your homosexual causes" could be construed other than he doesn't like gay people? The fact that he even has a problem with it says more than enough like u4486662 said. I feel sorry for you that you can't even see it. Edited by Draupnir: 8/3/2015 01:10:55 AM Sorry if this sounds rude but just like I said to fatboi there is no point explaining some things to others who would never understand so I won't even waste my time.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution.
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Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. Hahahahaha yeah its not.
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scorp72 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. I honestly couldnt careless who sleeps with who or who loves who. I do care with people bashing their chests claiming that people are Neanderthals for not accepting gay marriage. The church is a religious institution. No the church hides child molesters, as the pope acknowledged and religion is accountable for half of the crap going on the world. Sorry but I thought Christianity preached tolerance and understanding. The inquisition I suppose is more in line with modern thinking, you know "lets behead some poor fucker who doesn't share our beliefs". And all muslims are terrorists and all jews are thieves and all black people are thieves.....
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TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. I honestly couldnt careless who sleeps with who or who loves who. I do care with people bashing their chests claiming that people are Neanderthals for not accepting gay marriage. The church is a religious institution. Rarely do we align but must agree. I don't mind either, what they do in private is just that. But I'm not in favour of promoting it either. Adam and Eve weren't two men.
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paulc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. I honestly couldnt careless who sleeps with who or who loves who. I do care with people bashing their chests claiming that people are Neanderthals for not accepting gay marriage. The church is a religious institution. Rarely do we align but must agree. I don't mind either, what they do in private is just that. But I'm not in favour of promoting it either. Adam and Eve weren't two men. I just find it ironic people marginalize those who are apparently marginalising and wonder why no progress has been made on their behalf. Im just sick of the view thay you are wrong if you dont agree with... Since when did we become a single thought society.
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paulc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. I honestly couldnt careless who sleeps with who or who loves who. I do care with people bashing their chests claiming that people are Neanderthals for not accepting gay marriage. The church is a religious institution. Rarely do we align but must agree. I don't mind either, what they do in private is just that. But I'm not in favour of promoting it either. Adam and Eve weren't two men. You can't be serious. Adam and Eve never existed. Surely you know that.
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Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage.
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TheSelectFew wrote:paulc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. I honestly couldnt careless who sleeps with who or who loves who. I do care with people bashing their chests claiming that people are Neanderthals for not accepting gay marriage. The church is a religious institution. Rarely do we align but must agree. I don't mind either, what they do in private is just that. But I'm not in favour of promoting it either. Adam and Eve weren't two men. I just find it ironic people marginalize those who are apparently marginalising and wonder why no progress has been made on their behalf. Im just sick of the view thay you are wrong if you dont agree with... Since when did we become a single thought society. What view stated in the OP do you not agree with? Its about reducing homophobia in sport.
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paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free.
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u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison.
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paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct.
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u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage.
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TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage.
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More than 60pc of Australians have a civil celebrant in their marriage. If religions want to continue to teach some outdated idea that a homosexual relationship is inferior, and refuse to marry gay people, that's their problem. But they should not be able to dictate who gets a secular marriage. If me and my gf can have a secular marriage, a gay couple should be able to have one too.
I reject this whole idea that there is something embarrassing or wrong about being a gay football (or sports) fan. Football is for everyone - people of all different identities are welcome. The fact some people still feel uncomfortable about this is shameful.
I don't want to tar all Wanderers fans with the same brush, because some of their fans are open minded and supportive. However, most gay kids can't wait to get out of Western Sydney from all the shit that they cop from bigoted people.
Sydney FC represent the part of Sydney where many gay Australians run to - because around here, nobody gives a shit who you are. It's completely appropriate for Sydney FC players, fan groups and the club to reach out to that community, just as the Wanderers reach out to ethnic communities. I'm glad I support a club that is so enlightened.
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u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. Yep, and the point I was trying to make. Marriage like it or not is not a religious institution alone. If it was how do atheist marry? How do agnostics? I can't start my own religion and declare dogs and cats are married, they must be recognised by the state. Therefore marriage is a state institution not a religious one. You can declare God says man and women etc, and that is fine, the state isn't forcing you to marry someone you don't want to. But your God might be different to my God who might not exist as far as the other person thinks. Therefore your religious laws do not govern me. And that is the point. The state does religion doesn't. I think I need to add, this reply is not directly to u4486662, as we are saying the same thing, the reply is in general to the topic, I just want to make that clear Edited by post_hoc: 8/3/2015 10:53:57 AMEdited by post_hoc: 8/3/2015 10:54:35 AM
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Post_hoc wrote:u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. Yep, and the point I was trying to make. Marriage like it or not is not a religious institution alone. If it was how do atheist marry? How do agnostics? I can't start my own religion and declare dogs and cats are married, they must be recognised by the state. Therefore marriage is a state institution not a religious one. You can declare God says man and women etc, and that is fine, the state isn't forcing you to marry someone you don't want to. But your God might be different to my God who might not exist as far as the other person thinks. Therefore your religious laws do not govern me. And that is the point. The state does religion doesn't. I think I need to add, this reply is not directly to u4486662, as we are saying the same thing, the reply is in general to the topic, I just want to make that clear Edited by post_hoc: 8/3/2015 10:53:57 AMEdited by post_hoc: 8/3/2015 10:54:35 AM I hear ya, and I agree.
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scorp72 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. I honestly couldnt careless who sleeps with who or who loves who. I do care with people bashing their chests claiming that people are Neanderthals for not accepting gay marriage. The church is a religious institution. No the church hides child molesters, as the pope acknowledged and religion is accountable for half of the crap going on the world. Sorry but I thought Christianity preached tolerance and understanding. The inquisition I suppose is more in line with modern thinking, you know "lets behead some poor fucker who doesn't share our beliefs". It seems pretty obvious you know nothing about the difference between Christian religions. Roman Catholics don't represent the whole Christian faith, so when you talk about the Roman Catholic church hiding paedophilia that has absolutely nothing to do with the Orthodox church for example who is also Christian and has nothing to do with the Vatican. Your theory is so fucked up that you could easily say out of all the paedophile priests being charged they are always of anglo background. Does this make all anglos paedophiles? Do your research before you attack a religion and as for religion being the cause of war all I can do is shake my head. You actually fall for that shit the media puts through your head when in fact nearly every single war is ONLY because of MONEY and LAND and they use religion to trick people like you and many others into believing religion is a bad thing.
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u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. This is probably the worst post I've seen of the 6 years I've been visiting this site. Disgrace
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Coverdale wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. This is probably the worst post I've seen of the 6 years I've been visiting this site. Disgrace Sadly agree. Are the mods even around? This thread should be locked and OP warned for bringing politics and opposition divides into a seemingly positive news article.
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Tries to bait people to be homophobic so he can call people homophobic. Pretty sad.
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Surely this thread deserves a lock by now
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Capac wrote:Surely this thread deserves a lock by now tsf wrote:Tries to bait people to be homophobic so he can call people homophobic. Pretty sad.
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u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. So why should a church honour a marriage if they disagree. My point was and still is if you disagree with homosexuality it doesnt make you a morally bad person as OP tried to assert and should be banned for vilification.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. I honestly couldnt careless who sleeps with who or who loves who. I do care with people bashing their chests claiming that people are Neanderthals for not accepting gay marriage. The church is a religious institution. Whats the church got to do with this. And there are lots of marriages that would not be recognized by Christian Churches. They include Muslim marriages, Budist, non denominational/celebrant only. Should we ban these marriages because they don't fit with your religion/church?
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This is getting out of hand, give it a lock
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bitza wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. I honestly couldnt careless who sleeps with who or who loves who. I do care with people bashing their chests claiming that people are Neanderthals for not accepting gay marriage. The church is a religious institution. Whats the church got to do with this. And there are lots of marriages that would not be recognized by Christian Churches. They include Muslim marriages, Budist, non denominational/celebrant only. Should we ban these marriages because they don't fit with your religion/church? I dont have a church or religion :)
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The Maco wrote:This is getting out of hand, give it a lock Mods won't lock it until a WSW fan screams vilification and seeing as the Cove is the main focus of this thread, it won't be happening anytime soon.
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Prosecutor wrote:The Maco wrote:This is getting out of hand, give it a lock Mods won't lock it until a WSW fan screams vilification and seeing as the Cove is the main focus of this thread, it won't be happening anytime soon. This.
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TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. So why should a church honour a marriage if they disagree. My point was and still is if you disagree with homosexuality it doesnt make you a morally bad person as OP tried to assert and should be banned for vilification. Disagreeing which is a completely personal choice/issue and actively campaigning for the rights of a group of people are two very different things
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scorp72
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robstazzz wrote:scorp72 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. I honestly couldnt careless who sleeps with who or who loves who. I do care with people bashing their chests claiming that people are Neanderthals for not accepting gay marriage. The church is a religious institution. No the church hides child molesters, as the pope acknowledged and religion is accountable for half of the crap going on the world. Sorry but I thought Christianity preached tolerance and understanding. The inquisition I suppose is more in line with modern thinking, you know "lets behead some poor fucker who doesn't share our beliefs". It seems pretty obvious you know nothing about the difference between Christian religions. Roman Catholics don't represent the whole Christian faith, so when you talk about the Roman Catholic church hiding paedophilia that has absolutely nothing to do with the Orthodox church for example who is also Christian and has nothing to do with the Vatican. Your theory is so fucked up that you could easily say out of all the paedophile priests being charged they are always of anglo background. Does this make all anglos paedophiles? Do your research before you attack a religion and as for religion being the cause of war all I can do is shake my head. You actually fall for that shit the media puts through your head when in fact nearly every single war is ONLY because of MONEY and LAND and they use religion to trick people like you and many others into believing religion is a bad thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war"In their Encyclopedia of Wars, authors Charles Phillips and Alan Axelrod attempt a comprehensive listing of wars in history. They document 1763 wars overall. [3] Of which, some have identified and listed that only 123 (7%) were primarily religiously motivated.[4][5][6] The Encyclopedia of Wars identifies 420 as being religious in nature (a quarter), and of those religious wars, Christianity and Islam both feature in well over half.[page needed] Between them, Christianity and Islam have been involved in over 85% of the religious wars.[page needed] Analysis of the wars documented in the encyclopedia, reveals that since the Christian era, there have only been 440 years without a religious war; and the last year without a religious war was 1080.[page needed]" Love how its ok to insult the gays or a club for saying they wont tolerate hate but to insult a religion is criminal for stating the obvious. *sigh*
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u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. Why should it be, when it doesn't comply with the law that it is a union between a man and a woman? As far as I'm concerned, heterosexuals against gay marriage have every right to protect an institution they believe in, when under the law, a gay union is treated in the same way as regards to property, (which is one of only two issues,the other being children that the Law concerns itself with. There is no civil law discrimination. Children's issues for obvious reasons-one partner is not the biological parent- are a different situation). If you're not talking about the legal property treatment of gay unions then you're talking about the social definition of marriage. In that case, people in that society have every right to define it how they see fit. A gay union is not the same as heterosexual union, so why should it be given a name that has never before history been used to describe that type of union? You can't legislate to tell people "this is what we now call marriage", when that simply is not and will not be the case for about 98% of that society.
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u4486662
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stefcep wrote:u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. Why should it be, when it doesn't comply with the law that it is a union between a man and a woman? As far as I'm concerned, heterosexuals against gay marriage have every right to protect an institution they believe in, when under the law, a gay union is treated in the same way as regards to property, (which is one of only two issues,the other being children that the Law concerns itself with. There is no civil law discrimination. Children's issues for obvious reasons-one partner is not the biological parent- are a different situation). If you're not talking about the legal property treatment of gay unions then you're talking about the social definition of marriage. In that case, people in that society have every right to define it how they see fit. A gay union is not the same as heterosexual union, so why should it be given a name that has never before history been used to describe that type of union? You can't legislate to tell people "this is what we now call marriage", when that simply is not and will not be the case for about 98% of that society. Interracial marriage used to be illegal too.
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u4486662
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Coverdale wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. This is probably the worst post I've seen of the 6 years I've been visiting this site. Disgrace Are you incapable of recognising sarcasm?
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stefcep wrote:u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. Why should it be, when it doesn't comply with the law that it is a union between a man and a woman? As far as I'm concerned, heterosexuals against gay marriage have every right to protect an institution they believe in, when under the law, a gay union is treated in the same way as regards to property, (which is one of only two issues,the other being children that the Law concerns itself with. There is no civil law discrimination. Children's issues for obvious reasons-one partner is not the biological parent- are a different situation). If you're not talking about the legal property treatment of gay unions then you're talking about the social definition of marriage. In that case, people in that society have every right to define it how they see fit. A gay union is not the same as heterosexual union, so why should it be given a name that has never before history been used to describe that type of union? You can't legislate to tell people "this is what we now call marriage", when that simply is not and will not be the case for about 98% of that society. Til death do us part also was part of marriage until heterosexuals decided to change the definition of marriage for their own benefit and divorces became a thing. surely a far bigger blight on the 'constitution of marriage' than letting two loving people actually commit to a marriage. Also this really should be in ET.
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stefcep wrote:As far as I'm concerned, heterosexuals against gay marriage have every right to protect an institution they believe in, when under the law, a gay union is treated in the same way as regards to property, (which is one of only two issues,the other being children that the Law concerns itself with. Holy fuck this is some facepalm worthy shit. You could use the same logic for female circumcision or the murder of gay people in the middle east and Africa and say it's all good. The fact is that you apparently have the inability to objectively reason about anything and wouldn't use the same argument in those cases, because guess, what - you're probably personally against them even though they don't personally affect you. All you're doing is showing that you are a bigot. Fucking facepalm. Edited by Draupnir: 8/3/2015 04:43:03 PM
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scorp72 wrote:robstazzz wrote:scorp72 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. I honestly couldnt careless who sleeps with who or who loves who. I do care with people bashing their chests claiming that people are Neanderthals for not accepting gay marriage. The church is a religious institution. No the church hides child molesters, as the pope acknowledged and religion is accountable for half of the crap going on the world. Sorry but I thought Christianity preached tolerance and understanding. The inquisition I suppose is more in line with modern thinking, you know "lets behead some poor fucker who doesn't share our beliefs". It seems pretty obvious you know nothing about the difference between Christian religions. Roman Catholics don't represent the whole Christian faith, so when you talk about the Roman Catholic church hiding paedophilia that has absolutely nothing to do with the Orthodox church for example who is also Christian and has nothing to do with the Vatican. Your theory is so fucked up that you could easily say out of all the paedophile priests being charged they are always of anglo background. Does this make all anglos paedophiles? Do your research before you attack a religion and as for religion being the cause of war all I can do is shake my head. You actually fall for that shit the media puts through your head when in fact nearly every single war is ONLY because of MONEY and LAND and they use religion to trick people like you and many others into believing religion is a bad thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war"In their Encyclopedia of Wars, authors Charles Phillips and Alan Axelrod attempt a comprehensive listing of wars in history. They document 1763 wars overall. [3] Of which, some have identified and listed that only 123 (7%) were primarily religiously motivated.[4][5][6] The Encyclopedia of Wars identifies 420 as being religious in nature (a quarter), and of those religious wars, Christianity and Islam both feature in well over half.[page needed] Between them, Christianity and Islam have been involved in over 85% of the religious wars.[page needed] Analysis of the wars documented in the encyclopedia, reveals that since the Christian era, there have only been 440 years without a religious war; and the last year without a religious war was 1080.[page needed]" Love how its ok to insult the gays or a club for saying they wont tolerate hate but to insult a religion is criminal for stating the obvious. *sigh* Mate your stats don't mean shit. Most wars are caused because of money and land, I don't need Wikipedia to tell me otherwise. And it's clear you avoided the main point about saying churches are basically all there to cover up for child molesters and basically putting the whole Christian religion under the Roman catholic umbrella when in fact there are other Christian religions which existed long before then. Buy it's okay keep being ignorant and keep telling yourself churches are for molesters. As for your last line I think it's pretty fricken obvious it's the people crying out calling others homophobic the ones who are doing all the whinging to begin with.
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A religious institution can have its views on marriage. You can share those views. But if two people of the same sex are in love and in a partnership and want to be wife and wife or husband or husband, who the fuck are you to say no to them? How the hell is Australia behind American States and African countries on this in supporting marriage equality? As a heterosexual male who was born lives out west and supports the wsw, thumbs up to sydney FC. We don't need to get into a big church slag off match here either for that matter.
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The church of scientology, is clearly, the correct church.
They talk about aliens and shit.
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Slobodan Drauposevic
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robstazzz wrote:As for your last line I think it's pretty fricken obvious it's the people crying out calling others homophobic the ones who are doing all the whinging to begin with.
No shit, because if minorities don't have a voice because people like you disregard everything they say, other people are going to stand up and say it for them. You know, just like the black rights movement? Fucking clueless.
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aufc_ole wrote:Definitely belongs in AF I agree. I've learnt so much about Australian Football and enjoyed the mature, reasoned discussion. Does not deserve lock.
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u4486662 wrote:stefcep wrote:u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. Why should it be, when it doesn't comply with the law that it is a union between a man and a woman? As far as I'm concerned, heterosexuals against gay marriage have every right to protect an institution they believe in, when under the law, a gay union is treated in the same way as regards to property, (which is one of only two issues,the other being children that the Law concerns itself with. There is no civil law discrimination. Children's issues for obvious reasons-one partner is not the biological parent- are a different situation). If you're not talking about the legal property treatment of gay unions then you're talking about the social definition of marriage. In that case, people in that society have every right to define it how they see fit. A gay union is not the same as heterosexual union, so why should it be given a name that has never before history been used to describe that type of union? You can't legislate to tell people "this is what we now call marriage", when that simply is not and will not be the case for about 98% of that society. Interracial marriage used to be illegal too. An irrelevant argument in this discussion.
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TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:stefcep wrote:u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. Why should it be, when it doesn't comply with the law that it is a union between a man and a woman? As far as I'm concerned, heterosexuals against gay marriage have every right to protect an institution they believe in, when under the law, a gay union is treated in the same way as regards to property, (which is one of only two issues,the other being children that the Law concerns itself with. There is no civil law discrimination. Children's issues for obvious reasons-one partner is not the biological parent- are a different situation). If you're not talking about the legal property treatment of gay unions then you're talking about the social definition of marriage. In that case, people in that society have every right to define it how they see fit. A gay union is not the same as heterosexual union, so why should it be given a name that has never before history been used to describe that type of union? You can't legislate to tell people "this is what we now call marriage", when that simply is not and will not be the case for about 98% of that society. Interracial marriage used to be illegal too. An irrelevant argument in this discussion. Clearly it is completely relevant. Laws that govern marriage have changed over time. You used to not be allowed to divorce, you used to not be allowed to get married outside of the church. You used to only be allowed to marry your own race. You used to only be allowed to marry someone of the same religion. You used to only be allowed to marry someone of the opposite gender.
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Draupnir wrote:robstazzz wrote:As for your last line I think it's pretty fricken obvious it's the people crying out calling others homophobic the ones who are doing all the whinging to begin with.
No shit, because if minorities don't have a voice because people like you disregard everything they say, other people are going to stand up and say it for them. You know, just like the black rights movement? Fucking clueless. Your the clueless one who seems to pick and choose what to read and what not to read. I have every right to defend my religion just like any you have every right to defend what you believe in. A bullshit attack was made on Christianity so I had my say. If you can't handle it that's your problem. Just remember not everyone has to have the same view.
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This thread is 4/10 popcorns. -PB
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stefcep wrote:u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. Why should it be, when it doesn't comply with the law that it is a union between a man and a woman? As far as I'm concerned, heterosexuals against gay marriage have every right to protect an institution they believe in, when under the law, a gay union is treated in the same way as regards to property, (which is one of only two issues,the other being children that the Law concerns itself with. There is no civil law discrimination. Children's issues for obvious reasons-one partner is not the biological parent- are a different situation). If you're not talking about the legal property treatment of gay unions then you're talking about the social definition of marriage. In that case, people in that society have every right to define it how they see fit. A gay union is not the same as heterosexual union, so why should it be given a name that has never before history been used to describe that type of union? You can't legislate to tell people "this is what we now call marriage", when that simply is not and will not be the case for about 98% of that society. Why would anyone give a shit if gay people can also get married unless they were worried that it was normalising the gay lifestyle? Its like your mum gave you a piece of cake for your birthday and you are chomping down and thinking this is grouse and then she fucks it all up by giving your brother a piece as well.
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I approve of this initiative.
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Eldar wrote:stefcep wrote:u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. Why should it be, when it doesn't comply with the law that it is a union between a man and a woman? As far as I'm concerned, heterosexuals against gay marriage have every right to protect an institution they believe in, when under the law, a gay union is treated in the same way as regards to property, (which is one of only two issues,the other being children that the Law concerns itself with. There is no civil law discrimination. Children's issues for obvious reasons-one partner is not the biological parent- are a different situation). If you're not talking about the legal property treatment of gay unions then you're talking about the social definition of marriage. In that case, people in that society have every right to define it how they see fit. A gay union is not the same as heterosexual union, so why should it be given a name that has never before history been used to describe that type of union? You can't legislate to tell people "this is what we now call marriage", when that simply is not and will not be the case for about 98% of that society. Why would anyone give a shit if gay people can also get married unless they were worried that it was normalising the gay lifestyle? Its like your mum gave you a piece of cake for your birthday and you are chomping down and thinking this is grouse and then she fucks it all up by giving your brother a piece as well. I could argue that gay marriage is about having a piece of the same cake for no other reason that your brother got one too. See how that goes. Why should the legal definition be changed to accommodate the life choices of a minute minority? There is no discrimination in the law against homosexuals who can have whatever emotional and physical relationship they want with whomever they want. The law will not interfere. Property rights are the same for anyone cohabiting. But its not a man and woman and so its not a marriage.
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stefcep wrote:Eldar wrote:stefcep wrote:u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. Why should it be, when it doesn't comply with the law that it is a union between a man and a woman? As far as I'm concerned, heterosexuals against gay marriage have every right to protect an institution they believe in, when under the law, a gay union is treated in the same way as regards to property, (which is one of only two issues,the other being children that the Law concerns itself with. There is no civil law discrimination. Children's issues for obvious reasons-one partner is not the biological parent- are a different situation). If you're not talking about the legal property treatment of gay unions then you're talking about the social definition of marriage. In that case, people in that society have every right to define it how they see fit. A gay union is not the same as heterosexual union, so why should it be given a name that has never before history been used to describe that type of union? You can't legislate to tell people "this is what we now call marriage", when that simply is not and will not be the case for about 98% of that society. Why would anyone give a shit if gay people can also get married unless they were worried that it was normalising the gay lifestyle? Its like your mum gave you a piece of cake for your birthday and you are chomping down and thinking this is grouse and then she fucks it all up by giving your brother a piece as well. I could argue that gay marriage is about having a piece of the same cake for no other reason that your brother got one too. See how that goes. Why should the legal definition be changed to accommodate the life choices of a minute minority? There is no discrimination in the law against homosexuals who can have whatever emotional and physical relationship they want with whomever they want. The law will not interfere. Property rights are the same for anyone cohabiting. But its not a man and woman and so its not a marriage. Sexuality is not a choice. People who choose their sexuality are bisexual or pansexual. Sexuality is more likely a spectrum. 88% of men and 78% of women identify as exclusively straight. 9% of men have had same sex attraction/experiences. 19% of women have had same sex attraction/experiences. 3% of the population identify as exclusively homosexual.
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u4486662 wrote:stefcep wrote:Eldar wrote:stefcep wrote:u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. Why should it be, when it doesn't comply with the law that it is a union between a man and a woman? As far as I'm concerned, heterosexuals against gay marriage have every right to protect an institution they believe in, when under the law, a gay union is treated in the same way as regards to property, (which is one of only two issues,the other being children that the Law concerns itself with. There is no civil law discrimination. Children's issues for obvious reasons-one partner is not the biological parent- are a different situation). If you're not talking about the legal property treatment of gay unions then you're talking about the social definition of marriage. In that case, people in that society have every right to define it how they see fit. A gay union is not the same as heterosexual union, so why should it be given a name that has never before history been used to describe that type of union? You can't legislate to tell people "this is what we now call marriage", when that simply is not and will not be the case for about 98% of that society. Why would anyone give a shit if gay people can also get married unless they were worried that it was normalising the gay lifestyle? Its like your mum gave you a piece of cake for your birthday and you are chomping down and thinking this is grouse and then she fucks it all up by giving your brother a piece as well. I could argue that gay marriage is about having a piece of the same cake for no other reason that your brother got one too. See how that goes. Why should the legal definition be changed to accommodate the life choices of a minute minority? There is no discrimination in the law against homosexuals who can have whatever emotional and physical relationship they want with whomever they want. The law will not interfere. Property rights are the same for anyone cohabiting. But its not a man and woman and so its not a marriage. Sexuality is not a choice. People who choose their sexuality are bisexual or pansexual. Sexuality is more likely a spectrum. 88% of men and 78% of women identify as exclusively straight. 9% of men have had same sex attraction/experiences. 19% of women have had same sex attraction/experiences. 3% of the population identify as exclusively homosexual. This quote pyramid will have its own float at next year's East Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras. Edited by t-unit: 8/3/2015 09:52:27 PM
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RedKat wrote:The most offensive thing I find in that isnt the implication of homosexuality or the implication of being 'nerdy' (see the Quatum Physics book) but the ESFC reference which isnt exactly fair on all our fans from the inner west or shire. Or your fans from the west which your retarded friends on here like to bag out indirectly. :lol:
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T-UNIT wrote:u4486662 wrote:stefcep wrote:Eldar wrote:stefcep wrote:u4486662 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:u4486662 wrote:paulc wrote:Post_hoc wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:So you support homos. Want a medal? Most useless thread. Lock and ban.
Also i find it very narrow minded to label people who disagree with your views as bigots. You're back to your old self son. You'd fit right in with the republicans who wanted the blacks to still be on the backs of busses. The church is a religious institution. Yes, yes it is. But marriage is a state institution. The word marriage has been related to the pairing of man and woman only for hundreds and hundreds of years. I find it difficult to appreciate that overnight it now relates to two people of the same sex. Call it partners or something else but lay off the description marriage. Black people have been equated to slavery for millennia. I find it difficult to believe all of a sudden that they are now free. Call it "pro-bono work assistant" but don't call them free. That's for white people only. Only white people can handle both the rights AND responsibilities of being free. Slavery has nothing to do with religion and tradition but is one of the blights in human nature's past. Poor comparison. Its exactly the same. Slavery was deeply entrenched with religion and tradition. Once again, I'm correct. A civil union is a non religious marriage. My marriage to my wife is a civil marriage. By a civil celebrant. Gay marriage advocates want to marry in civil ceremonies, not religious ones. A civil union is not a civil marriage. Why should it be, when it doesn't comply with the law that it is a union between a man and a woman? As far as I'm concerned, heterosexuals against gay marriage have every right to protect an institution they believe in, when under the law, a gay union is treated in the same way as regards to property, (which is one of only two issues,the other being children that the Law concerns itself with. There is no civil law discrimination. Children's issues for obvious reasons-one partner is not the biological parent- are a different situation). If you're not talking about the legal property treatment of gay unions then you're talking about the social definition of marriage. In that case, people in that society have every right to define it how they see fit. A gay union is not the same as heterosexual union, so why should it be given a name that has never before history been used to describe that type of union? You can't legislate to tell people "this is what we now call marriage", when that simply is not and will not be the case for about 98% of that society. Why would anyone give a shit if gay people can also get married unless they were worried that it was normalising the gay lifestyle? Its like your mum gave you a piece of cake for your birthday and you are chomping down and thinking this is grouse and then she fucks it all up by giving your brother a piece as well. I could argue that gay marriage is about having a piece of the same cake for no other reason that your brother got one too. See how that goes. Why should the legal definition be changed to accommodate the life choices of a minute minority? There is no discrimination in the law against homosexuals who can have whatever emotional and physical relationship they want with whomever they want. The law will not interfere. Property rights are the same for anyone cohabiting. But its not a man and woman and so its not a marriage. Sexuality is not a choice. People who choose their sexuality are bisexual or pansexual. Sexuality is more likely a spectrum. 88% of men and 78% of women identify as exclusively straight. 9% of men have had same sex attraction/experiences. 19% of women have had same sex attraction/experiences. 3% of the population identify as exclusively homosexual. This quote pyramid will have its own float at next year's East Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras. Edited by t-unit: 8/3/2015 09:52:27 PM This quote pyramid is so magnificent, that some rich old English carnt is about to dig underneath it.
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Prosecutor wrote:RedKat wrote:The most offensive thing I find in that isnt the implication of homosexuality or the implication of being 'nerdy' (see the Quatum Physics book) but the ESFC reference which isnt exactly fair on all our fans from the inner west or shire. Or your fans from the west which your retarded friends on here like to bag out indirectly. :lol: You beat me to it =d>
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Prosecutor wrote:RedKat wrote:The most offensive thing I find in that isnt the implication of homosexuality or the implication of being 'nerdy' (see the Quatum Physics book) but the ESFC reference which isnt exactly fair on all our fans from the inner west or shire. Or your fans from the west which your retarded friends on here like to bag out indirectly. :lol: At least some of them aim for upwards mobility.
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Draupnir wrote:Prosecutor wrote:RedKat wrote:The most offensive thing I find in that isnt the implication of homosexuality or the implication of being 'nerdy' (see the Quatum Physics book) but the ESFC reference which isnt exactly fair on all our fans from the inner west or shire. Or your fans from the west which your retarded friends on here like to bag out indirectly. :lol: At least some of them aim for upwards mobility. Sticking with the theme of this thread, I would call it backward integration. Edited by prosecutor: 8/3/2015 10:29:10 PM
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libel wrote:Quote:Rhyan Grant, Thea Slatyer, Sunni Hughes and Paul Reid will stand alongside the likes of Matthew Mitcham, Daniel Kowalski, Greg Matthews and Paul Langmack in showing their support for LGBT rights. Not saying they have to be, but are any of those other than Mitcham and Kowalski LGBT? does that matter? what does their sexuality have to do with you?
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robstazzz wrote:Prosecutor wrote:RedKat wrote:The most offensive thing I find in that isnt the implication of homosexuality or the implication of being 'nerdy' (see the Quatum Physics book) but the ESFC reference which isnt exactly fair on all our fans from the inner west or shire. Or your fans from the west which your retarded friends on here like to bag out indirectly. :lol: You beat me to it =d> And what about WSW's fans who are gay, intelligent or enjoy Harry Potter or decent cofffee? Edited by Eldar: 8/3/2015 10:41:59 PM
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How did this thread grow to more than 1 page in Australian Football?
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SocaWho wrote:How did this thread grow to more than 1 page in Australian Football? NEWSFLASH: Bogans think that gay people shouldn't be able to get married.
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Eldar wrote:robstazzz wrote:Prosecutor wrote:RedKat wrote:The most offensive thing I find in that isnt the implication of homosexuality or the implication of being 'nerdy' (see the Quatum Physics book) but the ESFC reference which isnt exactly fair on all our fans from the inner west or shire. Or your fans from the west which your retarded friends on here like to bag out indirectly. :lol: You beat me to it =d> And what about WSW's fans who are gay, intelligent or enjoy Harry Potter or decent cofffee? Edited by Eldar: 8/3/2015 10:41:59 PM I love how quantum physics is somehow supposed to be gay.
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Eldar wrote:robstazzz wrote:Prosecutor wrote:RedKat wrote:The most offensive thing I find in that isnt the implication of homosexuality or the implication of being 'nerdy' (see the Quatum Physics book) but the ESFC reference which isnt exactly fair on all our fans from the inner west or shire. Or your fans from the west which your retarded friends on here like to bag out indirectly. :lol: You beat me to it =d> And what about WSW's fans who are gay, intelligent or enjoy Harry Potter or decent cofffee? Edited by Eldar: 8/3/2015 10:41:59 PM Oh I thought according to you guys they don't exist, because you know all WSW fans are on the doll, and known criminals.
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Draupnir wrote:SocaWho wrote:How did this thread grow to more than 1 page in Australian Football? NEWSFLASH: Bogans think that gay people shouldn't be able to get married. Youll need to do better if you want to win an arguement in the real world.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:SocaWho wrote:How did this thread grow to more than 1 page in Australian Football? NEWSFLASH: Bogans think that gay people shouldn't be able to get married. Youll need to do better if you want to win an arguement in the real world. This thread proves a real "argument" with you is impossible. You're a fucking idiot, and you prove that every single time you decide to vomit over the keyboard and hit post.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Draupnir wrote:SocaWho wrote:How did this thread grow to more than 1 page in Australian Football? NEWSFLASH: Bogans think that gay people shouldn't be able to get married. Youll need to do better if you want to win an arguement in the real world. Mate, you're the last person anyone on this entire fucking forum would have a realistic discussion or argument with. At least when I troll people it's because I'm purposefully acting like a completely intellectually disabled vegetable , and don't actually believe the shit in real life. It's a pity the same can't be said for you. I find it ironic that you, who is apparently so against rules and regulations in terms of something as meaningless as the environment at a football stadium would actually, willfully be against people getting married out of no reason other than your personal wishes. If the real world is one where gay people can't get married because you'd rather have a religious tradition trump civil rights while at the same time you whinge like an ice addict going through withdrawals about the fact that the NT can't have flares, I'm glad I am not a part of it.
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Still can't believe this is 2015 and same sex marriage is still a debate.
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Draup-kick stop promoting your agenda.
Bottom line is - nobody cares what you think on the matter.
Keep it to yourself mate.
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Its starting to become irrelevant.
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The conversation link to football is tenuous at best, this topic would be better served in Extra time.
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Joffa wrote:The conversation link to football is tenuous at best, this topic would be better served in Extra time. It took you 7 pages of shite to come to that conclusion?
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TheSelectFew wrote:Joffa wrote:The conversation link to football is tenuous at best, this topic would be better served in Extra time. It took you 7 pages of shite to come to that conclusion? Should of been done two days ago. Thank you Joffa!!!
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sethman75 wrote:Draup-kick stop promoting your agenda.
Bottom line is - nobody cares what you think on the matter.
Keep it to yourself mate. What agenda is that? It's no-hopers like you which keep the world worse off than it should be mate. Agenda, fucking lol. Since when is thinking that people in love having equal rights regardless of their sexual orientation an agenda? Marriage is a social construct. If there is any agenda, it's held by shitheads like you that don't want equal rights for other people. How one can have an agenda coming from an objective position looking at marriage as a social construct from the outside? You don't even realise how foolish it makes you look.
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sethman75 wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Joffa wrote:The conversation link to football is tenuous at best, this topic would be better served in Extra time. It took you 7 pages of shite to come to that conclusion? Should of been done two days ago. Thank you Joffa!!! Common logic should be expected. Not thanked.
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If gays want to get married and be miserable like the rest of us I don't see a problem.
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TheSelectFew wrote:Joffa wrote:The conversation link to football is tenuous at best, this topic would be better served in Extra time. It took you 7 pages of shite to come to that conclusion? For once I agree with you.:lol:
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Just a question...if I came out and celebrated my heterosexuallness, would gay people find it offensive? Would gay people find that as being anti-gay as such. Im not homophobic btw.
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Is that why Sydney got the Friday game ?
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Draupnir wrote:sethman75 wrote:Draup-kick stop promoting your agenda.
Bottom line is - nobody cares what you think on the matter.
Keep it to yourself mate. What agenda is that? It's no-hopers like you which keep the world worse off than it should be mate. Agenda, fucking lol. Since when is thinking that people in love having equal rights regardless of their sexual orientation an agenda? Marriage is a social construct. If there is any agenda, it's held by shitheads like you that don't want equal rights for other people. How one can have an agenda coming from an objective position looking at marriage as a social construct from the outside? You don't even realise how foolish it makes you look. If it were just kept within their circle like every other couple it would be fine. It's when you see the agenda pushed on everybody in public and the media is where it falls down. Don't tell people what to think mate.
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SocaWho wrote:Just a question...if I came out and celebrated my heterosexuallness, would gay people find it offensive? Would gay people find that as being anti-gay as such. Im not homophobic btw. This to an extent. Never understood why people who are against same sex marriage get name-called and insulted for a differing view they have for whatever reason (e.g Josh Thomas' freak out on the ABC) Same token, if I wanted to start a white guy group at uni how many people would jump down my throat? For what its worth I'm indifferent on the matter and you'd reckon quite a few people would be in the same boat; have no objection to the laws changing to allow it, but I'm not going to be banging down doors for change either
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jlm8695 wrote:Still can't believe this is 2015 and same sex marriage is still a debate. i still can't believe this is 2015 and ignorant comments such as this still abound. sure, there's a certain tryhard wanna-be progressive mindset associated with the acceptance of homosexuality and such. if you bothered to research human history, homosexuality and same gender marriage occurred in the ancient world, to the ancient egyptians and cannanites (*eg, the people of Soddom), to the greeks and romans. whether you are for or against homosexuality/gay marriage, can we all at least stop pretending that it is some sort of modern phenomena?
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fatboi-v- wrote:Heineken wrote:
Homophobics, either park your hoola hoop at the front door, or just stay the fuck out of this thread entirely. Mods, please actively patrol this thread, and be ready to delete any homophobic comments.
you see sir, it's this sort of aggressive militant gun loaded and ready to fire attitude that shits people up. by all means, support your homosexual causes but when you come across as preachy and you have your gun out ready to shoot at anyone with labels who may think differently or disagree with your position, that's when the intolerance weakens your very good causes. just a tip champ =d> Well said. And on that note- fuck the Greens.
There are only two intellectually honest debate tactics: (a) pointing out errors or omissions in your opponent’s facts, or (b) pointing out errors or omissions in your opponent’s logic. All other debate tactics are intellectually dishonest - John T. Reed
The Most Popular Presidential Candidate Of All Time (TM) cant go to a sports stadium in the country he presides over. Figure that one out...
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The Maco wrote:SocaWho wrote:Just a question...if I came out and celebrated my heterosexuallness, would gay people find it offensive? Would gay people find that as being anti-gay as such. Im not homophobic btw. This to an extent. Never understood why people who are against same sex marriage get name-called and insulted for a differing view they have for whatever reason (e.g Josh Thomas' freak out on the ABC) Same token, if I wanted to start a white guy group at uni how many people would jump down my throat? For what its worth I'm indifferent on the matter and you'd reckon quite a few people would be in the same boat; have no objection to the laws changing to allow it, but I'm not going to be banging down doors for change either Like I said, fuck The Greens. Guess who Josh Thomas votes for?
There are only two intellectually honest debate tactics: (a) pointing out errors or omissions in your opponent’s facts, or (b) pointing out errors or omissions in your opponent’s logic. All other debate tactics are intellectually dishonest - John T. Reed
The Most Popular Presidential Candidate Of All Time (TM) cant go to a sports stadium in the country he presides over. Figure that one out...
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SocaWho
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Im not against gay people or gay marriage...but to me sometimes they remind me of the way cyclists complain and whine when they think they don't receive equal treatment as those who drive a motor vehicle. Gay people have to remember that heterosexuality is the status quo in the same way why roads exist. If there weren't any cars in the first place there wouldn't be any roads...same as why gay people existed, that they are a product of a male and female organism. Its the facts...and I get frustrated when they try to bend the rules to accommodate them and cry like babies over spilt milk when they don't get their way.
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u4486662
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This thread is getting lolworthier by the minute.
Who's gonna strike next?
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u4486662 wrote:This thread is getting lolworthier by the minute.
Who's gonna strike next? Quick, thread got moved to ET so mods won't stalk as much, post gay gifs.  -PB
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Edited by fatboi-v-: 9/3/2015 10:58:03 PM
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fatboi-v- wrote:jlm8695 wrote:Still can't believe this is 2015 and same sex marriage is still a debate. i still can't believe this is 2015 and ignorant comments such as this still abound. sure, there's a certain tryhard wanna-be progressive mindset associated with the acceptance of homosexuality and such. if you bothered to research human history, homosexuality and same gender marriage occurred in the ancient world, to the ancient egyptians and cannanites (*eg, the people of Soddom), to the greeks and romans. whether you are for or against homosexuality/gay marriage, can we all at least stop pretending that it is some sort of modern phenomena? Didn't work out so well for them, did it? :-#
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Marriage isn't that great. I'm married and nothing has changed :lol: You only do it to keep the missus happy ;)
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Eastern Glory wrote:fatboi-v- wrote:jlm8695 wrote:Still can't believe this is 2015 and same sex marriage is still a debate. i still can't believe this is 2015 and ignorant comments such as this still abound. sure, there's a certain tryhard wanna-be progressive mindset associated with the acceptance of homosexuality and such. if you bothered to research human history, homosexuality and same gender marriage occurred in the ancient world, to the ancient egyptians and cannanites (*eg, the people of Soddom), to the greeks and romans. whether you are for or against homosexuality/gay marriage, can we all at least stop pretending that it is some sort of modern phenomena? Didn't work out so well for them, did it? :-# Do as the Romans do.:lol:
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