Matt Simon: Marijuana is less harmful than tobacco or alcohol, and that's the truth


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Slightly stoopid glassware and vaporizers........
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Fredsta wrote:
paladisious wrote:
FTR I don't enjoy cannabis myself as I don't like the sensation of inhaling smoke, but I can't understand how it does any more damage to public health than tobacco and alcohol does.


Vaporize it m8.

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Being high makes everything far more interesting, even Ludacris' music

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victoristar wrote:
Fredsta wrote:
paladisious wrote:
FTR I don't enjoy cannabis myself as I don't like the sensation of inhaling smoke, but I can't understand how it does any more damage to public health than tobacco and alcohol does.


Vaporize it m8.


This. Getting a vaporiser for cannabis was the best decision.. improved my experience 100x


Yeah, I got one a few weeks a go and I'm loving it, it's so easy on the lungs and so much more efficient than any other way.
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paladisious wrote:
victoristar wrote:
Fredsta wrote:
paladisious wrote:
FTR I don't enjoy cannabis myself as I don't like the sensation of inhaling smoke, but I can't understand how it does any more damage to public health than tobacco and alcohol does.


Vaporize it m8.


This. Getting a vaporiser for cannabis was the best decision.. improved my experience 100x


Even Snoop Dogg himself vapes these days.

drop it like its hot.
im sure snoop is subscribed to the latest in bong apparatus
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paladisious wrote:
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Fredsta wrote:
paladisious wrote:
FTR I don't enjoy cannabis myself as I don't like the sensation of inhaling smoke, but I can't understand how it does any more damage to public health than tobacco and alcohol does.


Vaporize it m8.


This. Getting a vaporiser for cannabis was the best decision.. improved my experience 100x


Even Snoop Dogg himself vapes these days.


Fun fact, the Snoop Dogg G-Pen is a pile of shit that doesn't vaporise, but combusts your cannabis product.
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victoristar wrote:
Fredsta wrote:
paladisious wrote:
FTR I don't enjoy cannabis myself as I don't like the sensation of inhaling smoke, but I can't understand how it does any more damage to public health than tobacco and alcohol does.


Vaporize it m8.


This. Getting a vaporiser for cannabis was the best decision.. improved my experience 100x


Even Snoop Dogg himself vapes these days.
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Fredsta wrote:
paladisious wrote:
FTR I don't enjoy cannabis myself as I don't like the sensation of inhaling smoke, but I can't understand how it does any more damage to public health than tobacco and alcohol does.


Vaporize it m8.


This. Getting a vaporiser for cannabis was the best decision.. improved my experience 100x
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paladisious wrote:
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I have a toke here and there the most dangerous thing I've ever done is fall asleep outside when it was cold and eat half a bucket of chicken from kfc

And in fairness it's he KFC that does more damage to public health lol


Without a doubt haha the way I felt the next morning is proof... But such a shame it's not legal here Colorado and Uruguay are perfect example of how much legalization can help but this nanny state will never accept it. I only smoke in moderation though the last time I did smoke was while I was away in late January of course people can take advantage of it eg. Alcohol etc and the side effects of schizophrenia is scary but if your smoking every day then you have no else to blame but yourself
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thejollyvic wrote:
I have a toke here and there the most dangerous thing I've ever done is fall asleep outside when it was cold and eat half a bucket of chicken from kfc

And in fairness it's he KFC that does more damage to public health lol
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I have a toke here and there the most dangerous thing I've ever done is fall asleep outside when it was cold and eat half a bucket of chicken from kfc
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Ridiculous that we have tolerated a culture of alcohol abuse for so long but Marijuana still has this ridiculous stigma

Its because alcohol is supposedly part of the aussie culture and there are some who would create an uproar if it were banned because its part of the theme of mateship where you go out and have a beer with your mates at a pub after a game of footy.
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Ridiculous that we have tolerated a culture of alcohol abuse for so long but Marijuana still has this ridiculous stigma

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Edited by paladisious: 3/5/2015 03:20:33 AM[/quote]
thats cos weed smokers are so blazed to do anything. Hell if they wanted to rob a bank they'll be like nah fuck that im hungry [/quote]
That is the biggest misconception in our society that stands in the way of legalisation. [/quote]
There are a lot of directionless, unfazed youth who care for little more than getting blazed (I say this as one). Having said that i know many people who would steal, lie or borrow to obtain it. I personally haven't seen alcohol have these effects on people but i suppose we all revert to relaying our first-hand experiences when discussing these issues.
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paladisious wrote:
FTR I don't enjoy cannabis myself as I don't like the sensation of inhaling smoke, but I can't understand how it does any more damage to public health than tobacco and alcohol does.


Vaporize it m8.
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paladisious wrote:
FTR I don't enjoy cannabis myself as I don't like the sensation of inhaling smoke, but I can't understand how it does any more damage to public health than tobacco and alcohol does. I've never heard of violent rampages of cannabis users on our streets. I wonder if anyone has done an estimate of how much government revenue is lost from not legalising it and taxing it?



True that, personally I've never seen two stoned people have a fight and they never seem to go hungry, they do get hungry though, I've met stoners but never an addict. I've heard stories about the length people will go to get high on other drugs that are addictive ie: robberies and prostitution, but have never seen this with dope.
Listening to Music can be better when bent, as too sex, though for some talking stories is hard, others never shut up.
I know people that have regularly smoked for 30 years and contribute to society just like everyone else but I have also seen people who have smoked a lot have physiological issues.

Moderation is the key and as an occasional recreational activity, I see nothing wrong with it.
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I inhaled during my last years of high school and my early 20s. But I stopped because the paranoia was to much for me. But everyone is different some people seem to handle it really well, but not me.
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Contract cut by the Mariners?

Too blazed to be phazed.
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Legalise it, dont criticise it!
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The great thing about marijuana is that you don't have to smoke it. You can eat and drink it too. Evidence of how successful legalization just look at Colorado where they went from broke to in the black in 3 months and had a massive drop in crininal arrests.

Just remember you gotta wait before you eat thesecond Cookie or brownie. Otherwise you'll be down and out for a week after eating the whoke tray in 30 minutes
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paladisious wrote:
FTR I don't enjoy cannabis myself as I don't like the sensation of inhaling smoke, but I can't understand how it does any more damage to public health than tobacco and alcohol does. I've never heard of violent rampages of cannabis users on our streets. I wonder if anyone has done an estimate of how much government revenue is lost from not legalising it and taxing it?

Edited by paladisious: 3/5/2015 03:20:33 AM

thats cos weed smokers are so blazed to do anything. Hell if they wanted to rob a bank they'll be like nah fuck that im hungry
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Explains why he is so shit.

Too much blazin.

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FTR I don't enjoy cannabis myself as I don't like the sensation of inhaling smoke, but I can't understand how it does any more damage to public health than tobacco and alcohol does. I've never heard of violent rampages of cannabis users on our streets. I wonder if anyone has done an estimate of how much government revenue is lost from not legalising it and taxing it?

Edited by paladisious: 3/5/2015 03:20:33 AM
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Matt Simon wrote:
[size=6]Matt Simon: Marijuana is less harmful than tobacco or alcohol, and that's the truth[/size]
MATT SIMON
April 14. 2015 8:17PM

TUFTONBORO POLICE Chief Andy Shagoury is entitled to his own opinion about New Hampshire’s marijuana decriminalization bill, but he is not entitled to his own facts.

“The biggest reason to oppose this is the message it will send to our children,” who, he fears, “will see (marijuana) as less harmful than tobacco or alcohol,” he is quoted as saying in the April 8 story, “Pot decriminalization proponents target new state senators.”

The sponsors and supporters of House Bill 618 certainly agree with Chief Shagoury that children and adolescents should be discouraged from using marijuana. But does that mean authorities have to continue being untruthful about the actual effects of marijuana when consumed by adults?

By any reasonable objective standard, marijuana is less harmful than alcohol and very much less harmful than tobacco.

The contrasts with alcohol are stunning. According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), six Americans die from alcohol poisoning each day, and a whopping 88,000 American deaths each year are attributed to excessive alcohol consumption. In contrast, the CDC does not even have a category for deaths caused by marijuana consumption.

Like marijuana, tobacco doesn’t typically cause overdose deaths, but that is one of the only things the two substances have in common. The CDC attributes more than 480,000 deaths per year to tobacco use, while, again, attributing zero deaths to marijuana consumption.

But doesn’t smoking marijuana cause cancer and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease? You might assume that it does, but the research tells a very different story.

Dr. Donald Tashkin, a pulmonologist who has conducted several government-sanctioned studies on the effects of marijuana, was surprised by the relative lack of harm associated with marijuana. Writing for the Annals of the American Thoracic Society in 2013, Dr. Tashkin explained that smoking marijuana “does not appear to lead to significant abnormalities in lung function” and that “no clear link to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease has been established.”

What about cancer? Dr. Tashkin wrote, “(a)lthough marijuana smoke contains a number of carcinogens and cocarcinogens ... studies do not suggest an increased risk for the development of either lung or upper airway cancer from light or moderate use” and “evidence is mixed concerning possible carcinogenic risks of heavy, long-term use.”

Based on his evaluation of all the available research, Dr. Tashkin concluded, “(e)vidence implies far lower risks for pulmonary complications of even regular heavy use of marijuana compared with the grave pulmonary consequences of tobacco.”

What about addictiveness? Again, marijuana doesn’t even come close to measuring up to the legal drugs alcohol and tobacco.

There is no question that some marijuana users do develop dependence. Writing for CNN.com, Dr. Sanjay Gupta acknowledged in 2013, “There is clear evidence that in some people, marijuana use can lead to withdrawal symptoms, including insomnia, anxiety and nausea.”

However, Gupta noted, “Even considering this, it is hard to make a case that it has a high potential for abuse. The physical symptoms of marijuana addiction are nothing like those of the other drugs I’ve mentioned (alcohol, tobacco, opiates, and cocaine). I have seen the withdrawal from alcohol, and it can be life threatening.”

But doesn’t marijuana kill brain cells? Again, this is a myth that was laid to rest a long time ago. In 1999, the National Academy of Sciences’ Institute of Medicine acknowledged, “Earlier studies purporting to show structural changes in the brains of heavy marijuana users have not been replicated with more sophisticated techniques.”

To be clear, studies have shown that there are good reasons for adolescents to avoid using marijuana. Those who start using heavily at an early age are more likely to develop dependence, and heavy marijuana use may certainly prevent young people from realizing their full potential in life. However, there is no question that alcohol — which does “kill brain cells” — is much more harmful to developing brains than marijuana.

Again, no credible advocate for marijuana decriminalization is claiming that “marijuana is harmless.” Instead, advocates are pointing out that marijuana is much less harmful than we’ve all been led to believe and that a criminal penalty for simple possession is not justified.

If Chief Shagoury really wants to help adolescents, he should recognize the importance of telling them the truth. He should also consider the position of the American Academy of Pediatrics, which recently acknowledged that decriminalization laws “have not led to an increase in youth use rates” and announced that it “strongly supports the decriminalization of marijuana use for both minors and young adults and encourages pediatricians to advocate for laws that prevent harsh criminal penalties for possession or use of marijuana.”

Matt Simon of Goffstown is New England political director of the Marijuana Policy project.



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