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How are Hellenic so high, they must be well on top of their league.
Ps love your work aussieshorter.
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+xIt's a shame Darwin Rovers drew an A-Leagie club again, denying much of a State Vector loss for the NT. It will be nice when they finally get to their real positions. There's no way Hellenic should be #23 Agreed. Unfortunately that's 2 out of 3 FFA Cup games against an A-League side. It'll sort itself out over time, but with only one NT entrant each year it'll take longer than I'd like.
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aussieshorter
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+xHow are Hellenic so high, they must be well on top of their league.Ps love your work aussieshorter. Hellenic are 11 wins from 11 games with a goal difference of 38, and clear at the top of the table by 13 points. The NT Norzone league is a bit different than most others because the quality distribution is so wide. The average ELO points of the league is lower than most leagues from other States, but it's usually dominated by one or two teams who pick up all the points and sit high on the rankings (in 2016 it was Darwin Olympic). At the same time the clubs at the bottom of the Norzone league pick up very few points and are very low on the rankings. Other leagues tend to have a more balanced split. For example, the average ELO for the Norzone is below every other NPL. Hellenic and Darwin Olympic are high on the rankings (#23 and #48) but at the other end you have Uni Azzurri (#185), Port Darwin (#182) and Mindil Aces (#114). Because of the wide distribution in that particular league, Hellenic will stay high on the rankings as long as they keep winning. As soon as they drop points to any of those clubs low on the rankings we could see them drop quickly.
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SutherlandFan
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Interesting cheers for the explanation, will be interesting watching it over the years.
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Love it !
Any chance you can post the difference league vector values. Would love to see if they are starting to level out.
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aussieshorter
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+xLove it ! Any chance you can post the difference league vector values. Would love to see if they are starting to level out. Average ELO Points for each league at the moment are:
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+x+xLove it ! Any chance you can post the difference league vector values. Would love to see if they are starting to level out. Average ELO Points for each league at the moment are:  Victoria is now Npl Vuck and Npl2 east and west. We are aligned.
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Gyfox
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+x+x+xLove it ! Any chance you can post the difference league vector values. Would love to see if they are starting to level out. Average ELO Points for each league at the moment are:  Victoria is now Npl Vuck and Npl2 east and west. We are aligned. Why do they have conferences for NPL2 instead of splitting into NP L2 and NPL3 like NSW has from the start?
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TheSelectFew
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+x+x+x+xLove it ! Any chance you can post the difference league vector values. Would love to see if they are starting to level out. Average ELO Points for each league at the moment are:  Victoria is now Npl Vuck and Npl2 east and west. We are aligned. Why do they have conferences for NPL2 instead of splitting into NP L2 and NPL3 like NSW has from the start? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Updated for the FFA Cup and league results from the last two weeks. Bankstown Berries beating Metrostars was enough to push Blacktown City's score above Newcastle Jets. 
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+xUpdated for the FFA Cup and league results from the last two weeks. Bankstown Berries beating Metrostars was enough to push Blacktown City's score above Newcastle Jets.   hahahahahahahaha
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Blacktown City v CCM. Is this the first time an NPL side is a favourite according to this table?
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+xBlacktown City v CCM. Is this the first time an NPL side is a favourite according to this table? Yes it is. Will be interesting to see the impact of APIA's big win as well as Heidelberg beating Glory.
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+xUpdated for the FFA Cup and league results from the last two weeks. Bankstown Berries beating Metrostars was enough to push Blacktown City's score above Newcastle Jets.   What BS is this? How are Smurfs and Vuck so far in front (let me guess, the person compiling the table supports one of them?), how are Melb City above BRFC? How the hell are Glory that high up. So non-nonsensical it makes the FIFA rankings look good
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+xBlacktown City v CCM. Is this the first time an NPL side is a favourite according to this table? thats amazing might be some smart money because I'm guessing the bookies wouldn't reflect that
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+x+xBlacktown City v CCM. Is this the first time an NPL side is a favourite according to this table? thats amazing might be some smart money because I'm guessing the bookies wouldn't reflect that or maybe the table is total BS?
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+x+x+xBlacktown City v CCM. Is this the first time an NPL side is a favourite according to this table? thats amazing might be some smart money because I'm guessing the bookies wouldn't reflect that or maybe the table is total BS? Gawd this is priceless hahahahahaha
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Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's BS 😊
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+x+xUpdated for the FFA Cup and league results from the last two weeks. Bankstown Berries beating Metrostars was enough to push Blacktown City's score above Newcastle Jets.   What BS is this? How are Smurfs and Vuck so far in front (let me guess, the person compiling the table supports one of them?), how are Melb City above BRFC? How the hell are Glory that high up. So non-nonsensical it makes the FIFA rankings look good Go read the first page of posts of this thread and you might understand.
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So does Perth drop 50 places now after that humiliating loss :laugh::laugh:
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+x+x+x+xBlacktown City v CCM. Is this the first time an NPL side is a favourite according to this table? thats amazing might be some smart money because I'm guessing the bookies wouldn't reflect that or maybe the table is total BS? Gawd this is priceless hahahahahaha to be fair I imagine the elo ratings are slightly distorted to be flattering to npl sides since a league sides tend to play second teams when they meet them
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+xJust because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's BS 😊 I dont need to understand it to see that the outcome is BS. I dont "understand" surgery but I can see when a doctor has made a mess of teh stitches. Glory finished in 5th last year, 5th the year before, 7th before that, 8th before that and then 6th. They havent won a trophy in 20 years. And yet on this "table" they appear 3rd and that is BS - Garbage in, Garbage out. Do you understand that? Can you see why I have a problem with it?? there is no way Glory can be in third unless it is total BS
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+x+xJust because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's BS 😊 I dont need to understand it to see that the outcome is BS. I dont "understand" surgery but I can see when a doctor has made a mess of teh stitches. Glory finished in 5th last year, 5th the year before, 7th before that, 8th before that and then 6th. They havent won a trophy in 20 years. And yet on this "table" they appear 3rd and that is BS - Garbage in, Garbage out. Do you understand that? Can you see why I have a problem with it?? there is no way Glory can be in third unless it is total BS that is a little weird I wonder if a mistake was made with the math
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+x+xJust because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's BS 😊 I dont need to understand it to see that the outcome is BS. I dont "understand" surgery but I can see when a doctor has made a mess of teh stitches. Glory finished in 5th last year, 5th the year before, 7th before that, 8th before that and then 6th. They havent won a trophy in 20 years. And yet on this "table" they appear 3rd and that is BS - Garbage in, Garbage out. Do you understand that? Can you see why I have a problem with it?? there is no way Glory can be in third unless it is total BS You're more than welcome to ignore it and move on.
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+x+x+x+x+xBlacktown City v CCM. Is this the first time an NPL side is a favourite according to this table? thats amazing might be some smart money because I'm guessing the bookies wouldn't reflect that or maybe the table is total BS? Gawd this is priceless hahahahahaha to be fair I imagine the elo ratings are slightly distorted to be flattering to npl sides since a league sides tend to play second teams when they meet them I am less concerned about the flattery to npl sides, there's clearly a bias applied to "close the gap" but see my post on Glory in third, that can not be by any measure, accurate. so the method used to calculate this is flawed somehow. Should an npl side be ranked higher than an A League side? common sense says no but it doesnt matter if they are providing there is logic, Glory in third? no logic. flawed. so people coo'ing over this table is, well BS
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+x+x+xJust because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's BS 😊 I dont need to understand it to see that the outcome is BS. I dont "understand" surgery but I can see when a doctor has made a mess of teh stitches. Glory finished in 5th last year, 5th the year before, 7th before that, 8th before that and then 6th. They havent won a trophy in 20 years. And yet on this "table" they appear 3rd and that is BS - Garbage in, Garbage out. Do you understand that? Can you see why I have a problem with it?? there is no way Glory can be in third unless it is total BS You're more than welcome to ignore it and move on. I will. but I would welcome an explanation on Perth in third so I can either ignore it for good OR correct my thinking based on my misunderstanding, how are perth in third again?
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+x+xJust because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's BS 😊 I dont need to understand it to see that the outcome is BS. I dont "understand" surgery but I can see when a doctor has made a mess of teh stitches. Glory finished in 5th last year, 5th the year before, 7th before that, 8th before that and then 6th. They havent won a trophy in 20 years. And yet on this "table" they appear 3rd and that is BS - Garbage in, Garbage out. Do you understand that? Can you see why I have a problem with it?? there is no way Glory can be in third unless it is total BS Oh, so it's a Glory thing then? I'm guessing their two good cup years have some bearing and their salary cap year would still be in there for the results, just not the final standings.
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+x+x+xJust because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's BS 😊 I dont need to understand it to see that the outcome is BS. I dont "understand" surgery but I can see when a doctor has made a mess of teh stitches. Glory finished in 5th last year, 5th the year before, 7th before that, 8th before that and then 6th. They havent won a trophy in 20 years. And yet on this "table" they appear 3rd and that is BS - Garbage in, Garbage out. Do you understand that? Can you see why I have a problem with it?? there is no way Glory can be in third unless it is total BS that is a little weird I wonder if a mistake was made with the math I dont mean to be as blunt as my posts appear but you see the point then?
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+x+x+x+xJust because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's BS 😊 I dont need to understand it to see that the outcome is BS. I dont "understand" surgery but I can see when a doctor has made a mess of teh stitches. Glory finished in 5th last year, 5th the year before, 7th before that, 8th before that and then 6th. They havent won a trophy in 20 years. And yet on this "table" they appear 3rd and that is BS - Garbage in, Garbage out. Do you understand that? Can you see why I have a problem with it?? there is no way Glory can be in third unless it is total BS You're more than welcome to ignore it and move on. I will. but I would welcome an explanation on Perth in third so I can either ignore it for good OR correct my thinking based on my misunderstanding, how are perth in third again? When I have time later I'll break down the last couple of seasons for the A-League clubs and show you.
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+x+x+x+x+xJust because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's BS 😊 I dont need to understand it to see that the outcome is BS. I dont "understand" surgery but I can see when a doctor has made a mess of teh stitches. Glory finished in 5th last year, 5th the year before, 7th before that, 8th before that and then 6th. They havent won a trophy in 20 years. And yet on this "table" they appear 3rd and that is BS - Garbage in, Garbage out. Do you understand that? Can you see why I have a problem with it?? there is no way Glory can be in third unless it is total BS You're more than welcome to ignore it and move on. I will. but I would welcome an explanation on Perth in third so I can either ignore it for good OR correct my thinking based on my misunderstanding, how are perth in third again? When I have time later I'll break down the last couple of seasons for the A-League clubs and show you. Don't bother. There's already a link where it explains how the maths work out in the OP. If he can't or won't comprehend that then he's not worth your time.
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