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I was also under the impression we won in regular time.


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I reckon we've peaked at the right time. Vietnam have dropped off a little.


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Vietnam won 1-0, Cambodia fought hard but the better team won, I feel.
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Vietnam through to the final 1-0, Cambodia put up a hell of a fight.


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Anyone watching the game now? Vietnam look mediocre against a team Thailand spanked 6-0. Massive crowd too.
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Decentric wrote:
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The No.10 Brook kid has the ability to glide past players Rogic-like


Big call.

He also got the ball trapped under his feet a few times, when he shouldn't, but he is still very young.

Before other posters make big calls on players in this team, many of them fade out before senior football. I read an article about an under 16 world championships. About 80 % of the stars at one particular under 16 tournament were not even playing football 6 years later. Think Kaz Patafta.

For some inexplicable reason some players fade out who develop early.

Seb Ryall and Leigh Broxham were both very good for their age at 17, but given such early promise they have faded to mediocre HAL players, no more. Many players of the same age would've overtaken them, who were nowhere near as good at 17.

Kristian Sarkies, Stu Musialik and Ahmad Elrich also inexplicably faded out a bit later in their careers.




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True he is still very young and got a lot of development to go, but what i've seen from him in this tournament he can create something from nothing from a shot or when executed final pass.

Remember Tom Rogic at 15 was also raw but look at where he is now.

We should definitely keep an eye out on his and the other players development in the next few years.
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Barca4Life wrote:
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The No.10 Brook kid has the ability to glide past players Rogic-like


Big call.

He also got the ball trapped under his feet a few times, when he shouldn't, but he is still very young.

Before other posters make big calls on players in this team, many of them fade out before senior football. I read an article about an under 16 world championships. About 80 % of the stars at one particular under 16 tournament were not even playing football 6 years later. Think Kaz Patafta.

For some inexplicable reason some players fade out who develop early.

Seb Ryall and Leigh Broxham were both very good for their age at 17, but given such early promise they have faded to mediocre HAL players, no more. Many players of the same age would've overtaken them, who were nowhere near as good at 17.

Kristian Sarkies, Stu Musialik and Ahmad Elrich also inexplicably faded out a bit later in their careers.




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Cheers for the write-up, Decentric. Good read. I was impressed by our technical abilities in midfield and attack, interesting too that we often came off second best physically, since this is an area we've typically been strong in at all age groups. Defending was sketchy but our young guys seem to have good technical skills.

Edit: Something else I enjoyed was the quick ball movement into midfield from the centre-backs. We often had a free centre-mid and exploited it with some fast, straight through passes from the defender to the midfielder who had created the space, and would then turn and look to create an attack. Reminded me of Sainsbury at the Asian Cup.

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Going from this thread, they have played really well. Very different outlook to that which we were discussing after the Vietnam match.

Are there highlights (or better) on youtube?


There should be a replay on a site that most on here know better than me.

Thankfully, Australia won, because they were clearly the better side apart from finishing and 1v1 muscle duels.

It will also be good to see them play Vietnam again. In the first 45 minutes against Vietnam, it was reasonably even, but Australia made some awful mistakes and struggled to create chances on goal.
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Australia had 22 shots to Thailand's 9.

They also had well over 60% possession and it seemed like a huge territorial advantage.

The penalty shoot out rewarded the better team.

If we play Vietnam in the final it will be interesting as Australia has improved a lot during the tournament.


Need to work on our transitions and try to limit our turnovers in midfield. This is the most technical group of youngsters Ive seen us produce. Unlocking defences will not be an issue.


The turnovers will decrease as this group of players age.

They were created by young players' inconsisitency in passing,and sometimes where players off the ball weren't creating sufficient space by shaking their markers (checking effectively enough, often enough). They still made a lot of mistakes, but the basics were good.

1v1 attacking

*I saw a lot of use of a dribbling technique called La Croqueta. This involves a quick left/right or right /left diagonal inside of the foot dribbling move. It often beats two played in succession in tight spaces.=d>

* They often used the shoulder feint/body swerve where one fakes with the body one way then one takes the ball in the other direction with the outside of the foot , was often used at the appropriate moment.=d>

First touch

Usually pretty good with players taking the ball away from their opponents as they received most of the time with inside and outside of the foot. However, most players need to receive with the outside of the foot with their non-preferred side, like Rogic does.


1v1 defensive skills.

* Often the defence was well positioned as a unit and kept is shape, but individually:

*Too many Thai players won 50/50 tackles.:cry:

*Dribbled around our players.:cry:

* Outmuscled our players.:cry:

This really needs improvement. It has been well coached in the past by the old guard of Aussie football. Also , most of the Aussie lads need to muscle up, which is quite easy at that age with a program of weights 3 times a week. At the same age I went from a puny runt to a big oaf using weights for two years.

What has sharpened to the old Aussie hard man common in the HAL , like Ogger, Moore, Leijer, Boogard, Pantelidis, Muscat, Jacob Burns, Rostyn Griffiths, Shane Lowry, NTS, et al?

*Passing and moving was pretty good. The team played some good football in patches. As they mature, they will make far less mistakes in possession, which precipitated the swift Thai attacking transitions.

*Handling speed was usually good.

*With so much possession , surprisingly, despite the the heat and humidity, they wore Thailand out by starving them of the ball.=d>

*Attacking interplay has improved out of sight. Most of the chances on goal came from open play, with effective combination play.=d>

* Shooting in this game, compared to the last three matches was atrocious.:cry:

There I was thinking Vidmar had done of shooting work on the training ground.](*,)

*Game sense was usually good, even if the execution was often worse than the idea.

*In terms of structure Australia nearly always had a player in the centre of the pitch, maintaining team shape with the ball and without.=d>




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The No.10 Brook kid has the ability to glide past players Rogic-like
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2013 article involving Roberts. Would have to be a Wanderers fan right?

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Implementing the new National Curriculum the next challenge
Monday, 23 September 2013 -
The morning after Han Berger released the new version of our national curriculum, I ventured to Jensen Park to see what all the fuss was about.
The morning after Han Berger released the new version of our national curriculum, I ventured to Jensen Park to see what all the fuss was about. Depending on who you talk to, 13-year-old John Roberts either typifies the problem, or represents a solution, to the issue which our technical director believes requires a 'fundamental transformation' - how to find a smarter, better, way to develop our best young players. Without a sea change in 'culture and mentality' Berger maintains Australia will quickly fall behind in the ongoing challenge to remain relevant in the world game.
More than anything, Berger hopes his updated curriculum - a 300-page document which outlines both the philosophy and the detail of his roadmap to reform - will hit the mark at grassroots level. It's here where Berger believes a 'win-at-all-costs mentality' has entrenched itself at the cost of creating the sort of good habits, and good techniques, which underpin the successful football nations. It's why, after great internal debate, Berger opted to make the curriculum available free-of-charge (via this website) rather than protect the IP. If the new blueprint is to make a genuine difference, then those at the coalface - essentially junior coaches - need to have access to the detail. A brave move, but the right one. We must all hope it works.
So where does this leave Roberts, an African-born refugee who plays for Mt Druitt Town Rangers in the second-tier of the NSW junior system? As a prime example of a player over-used in the quest for results at a level where results should not matter? Or as another example of the sort of player our game will ultimately benefit from thanks to the recent influx of African refugees - provided he's handled the right way? I went down to the second division grand finals day to find out for myself.
Roberts is quick, strong, direct, good with both feet, and adept at rolling his defender. It's why he scores so many goals. But as a 13-year-old playing up a division, his physical advantage is slightly diminished. And technically, he still has much work to do. Yet for all that, he's clearly got a future. It's what happens from here on which will decide his fate.
If you listen to the gossip, Roberts may be the hottest prospect in NSW junior football. One seasoned observer at the grand final, where Roberts scored the first goal in a comfortable win over Fraser Park, told me: ''There's 500 people here today, and there's only one player they're talking about.'' Listening to the chatter among the parents in the grandstand, it's clear there's admiration and jealousy in equal measure. The task of nurturing his talent has fallen to Mt Druitt Town's technical director Stewart Montgomery. It's a task he takes seriously.
The envy, of course, comes from the fact that Roberts - like many of our African immigrants - has the physique to dominate football at this level. In his case that's not necessarily about bulk - more about speed and power. The end result is that his goals have helped Rangers win the club championship, and earn promotion to the top tier of the NSW junior system, where - among others - they'll join their local rivals Blacktown City and Blacktown Spartans at the head table for the first time.
That's a big deal for this small club from one of Sydney's most maligned suburbs, and the fact Roberts started the season playing three grades in one day (under-13s, under-14s and under-15s) has led to accusations of overloading. In other words, Mt Druitt have flogged him to achieve results - exactly what Berger argues against. It's a charge Montgomery vehemently, and convincingly, denies.
''What we did at the start of the season was play him for 10-15 minutes in the 13s, probably 40-50 minutes in the 14s, and then another 10-15 minutes in the 15s,'' says Montgomery. ''The issue as we saw it was the cumulative effect of that game time, and we believed we were on the right path in terms of his development. But then I had a chat with 'Crookie' (NSW assistant technical director Ian Crook), and his view that we needed to look at the mental fatigue of having him at the ground from 8am right through to one o'clock. So we listened, and for 99 percent of the season he's played the bulk of his football in the 14s. If we do use him for the 13s, we get him a rub down between games, fluid him up, and make sure he gets his rest. Put it this way, we've become very conscious of his workload. We keep a very close eye on his loading.''
This story is not about villifying Roberts, or his club. It was the Rangers who found him playing local park football 18 months ago, recognised his talent, and scooped him up from under the noses of the Spartans and the Demons, who historically get first pick of the best players from the Blacktown district. It's the Rangers who have picked him up and dropped him off at the local Housing Commission for training and games, fed him, treated him, and helped his family where possible. That's a good news story for a kid born in Guinea and raised in a refugee camp in Sierre Leone before he arrived in Australia four years ago. If football can give him a better future, and Mt Druitt Town play a part in that, then everyone wins. My instinct is that the Rangers, and Montgomery, are a good fit for Roberts at this delicate stage of his development. But there are issues which need to be addressed.
As you read this, Roberts will be in Europe on tour with a private academy. There is talk Stoke City will have a look at him. Locally, the bigger clubs are queuing up to try and prise him away from Mt Druitt Town. If Rangers have their way, he'll stick around until at least next April, when they've been invited to Portugal to play in an under-15s tournament alongside Sporting Lisbon, Benfica, Sevilla and Porto. Yes, that's right, the modest Rangers are off to play against the best. It's all thanks to the connections of the club's under-15s coach, Paul Ribeiro, a former Benfica player.
What it all adds up to, of course, is pressure. Too much pressure? That's the key. ''There's the pressure the kid puts on himself, and he does have high expectations, but the real pressure comes from the sidelines,'' says Montgomery.
It's that environment Berger wants the new curriculum to change. Coach education is a key, but parents, and officials, can also help. ''In a perfect world, if the structures were different, there might not be as much pressure,'' says Montgomery. ''As a concept, I think we'd all agree with that.''
To change attitudes will take time, but the new curriculum does provide the weaponry to help achieve Berger's mission of 'fundamental transformation'. In the meantime Roberts - like any promising youngster - dreams of becoming a professional.
It's how he gets there which will tell us whether we're heading the right way. I'll leave the final word to Montgomery: 'We don't keep them (players), we don't collect them. If he does make it, nobody will be more chuffed than me.''

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/implementing-the-new-national-curriculum-the-next-challenge/1pwjfotwjnwjl1mx5fzepkd2p0


Good read, Scott.

Thanks for putting it up.
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Nice drone shots at half time, I love that stuff.
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Going from this thread, they have played really well. Very different outlook to that which we were discussing after the Vietnam match.

Are there highlights (or better) on youtube?
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Decentric wrote:
George_Worst wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Australia had 22 shots to Thailand's 9.

They also had well over 60% possession and it seemed like a huge territorial advantage.

The penalty shoot out rewarded the better team.

If we play Vietnam in the final it will be interesting as Australia has improved a lot during the tournament.


Need to work on our transitions and try to limit our turnovers in midfield. This is the most technical group of youngsters Ive seen us produce. Unlocking defences will not be an issue.


The turnovers will decrease as this group of players age.

They were created by young players' inconsisitency in passing,and sometimes where players off the ball weren't creating sufficient space by shaking their markers (checking effectively enough, often enough). They still made a lot of mistakes, but the basics were good.

1v1 attacking

*I saw a lot of use of a dribbling technique called La Croqueta. This involves a quick left/right or right /left diagonal inside of the foot dribbling move. It often beats two played in succession in tight spaces.=d>

* They often used the shoulder feint/body swerve where one fakes with the body one way then one takes the ball in the other direction with the outside of the foot , was often used at the appropriate moment.=d>

First touch

Usually pretty good with players taking the ball away from their opponents as they received most of the time with inside and outside of the foot. However, most players need to receive with the outside of the foot with their non-preferred side, like Rogic does.


1v1 defensive skills.

* Often the defence was well positioned as a unit and kept is shape, but individually:

*Too many Thai players won 50/50 tackles.:cry:

*Dribbled around our players.:cry:

* Outmuscled our players.:cry:

This really needs improvement. It has been well coached in the past by the old guard of Aussie football. Also , most of the Aussie lads need to muscle up, which is quite easy at that age with a program of weights 3 times a week. At the same age I went from a puny runt to a big oaf using weights for two years.

What has sharpened to the old Aussie hard man common in the HAL , like Ogger, Moore, Leijer, Boogard, Pantelidis, Muscat, Jacob Burns, Rostyn Griffiths, Shane Lowry, NTS, et al?

*Passing and moving was pretty good. The team played some good football in patches. As they mature, they will make far less mistakes in possession, which precipitated the swift Thai attacking transitions.

*Handling speed was usually good.

*With so much possession , surprisingly, despite the the heat and humidity, they wore Thailand out by starving them of the ball.=d>

*Attacking interplay has improved out of sight. Most of the chances on goal came from open play, with effective combination play.=d>

* Shooting in this game, compared to the last three matches was atrocious.:cry:

There I was thinking Vidmar had done of shooting work on the training ground.](*,)

*Game sense was usually good, even if the execution was often worse than the idea.

*In terms of structure Australia nearly always had a player in the centre of the pitch, maintaining team shape with the ball and without.=d>




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Edited by Decentric: 21/7/2016 10:28:45 PM


Top analysis. =d> =d>


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Decentric, I'll respond to your post in the NT thread. Even though it does involve the youth teams, my answer will be dealing more with the NT. No need to post essays on the Socceroos on this excellent thread.
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2013 article involving Roberts. Would have to be a Wanderers fan right?

Quote:
Implementing the new National Curriculum the next challenge
Monday, 23 September 2013 -
The morning after Han Berger released the new version of our national curriculum, I ventured to Jensen Park to see what all the fuss was about.
The morning after Han Berger released the new version of our national curriculum, I ventured to Jensen Park to see what all the fuss was about. Depending on who you talk to, 13-year-old John Roberts either typifies the problem, or represents a solution, to the issue which our technical director believes requires a 'fundamental transformation' - how to find a smarter, better, way to develop our best young players. Without a sea change in 'culture and mentality' Berger maintains Australia will quickly fall behind in the ongoing challenge to remain relevant in the world game.
More than anything, Berger hopes his updated curriculum - a 300-page document which outlines both the philosophy and the detail of his roadmap to reform - will hit the mark at grassroots level. It's here where Berger believes a 'win-at-all-costs mentality' has entrenched itself at the cost of creating the sort of good habits, and good techniques, which underpin the successful football nations. It's why, after great internal debate, Berger opted to make the curriculum available free-of-charge (via this website) rather than protect the IP. If the new blueprint is to make a genuine difference, then those at the coalface - essentially junior coaches - need to have access to the detail. A brave move, but the right one. We must all hope it works.
So where does this leave Roberts, an African-born refugee who plays for Mt Druitt Town Rangers in the second-tier of the NSW junior system? As a prime example of a player over-used in the quest for results at a level where results should not matter? Or as another example of the sort of player our game will ultimately benefit from thanks to the recent influx of African refugees - provided he's handled the right way? I went down to the second division grand finals day to find out for myself.
Roberts is quick, strong, direct, good with both feet, and adept at rolling his defender. It's why he scores so many goals. But as a 13-year-old playing up a division, his physical advantage is slightly diminished. And technically, he still has much work to do. Yet for all that, he's clearly got a future. It's what happens from here on which will decide his fate.
If you listen to the gossip, Roberts may be the hottest prospect in NSW junior football. One seasoned observer at the grand final, where Roberts scored the first goal in a comfortable win over Fraser Park, told me: ''There's 500 people here today, and there's only one player they're talking about.'' Listening to the chatter among the parents in the grandstand, it's clear there's admiration and jealousy in equal measure. The task of nurturing his talent has fallen to Mt Druitt Town's technical director Stewart Montgomery. It's a task he takes seriously.
The envy, of course, comes from the fact that Roberts - like many of our African immigrants - has the physique to dominate football at this level. In his case that's not necessarily about bulk - more about speed and power. The end result is that his goals have helped Rangers win the club championship, and earn promotion to the top tier of the NSW junior system, where - among others - they'll join their local rivals Blacktown City and Blacktown Spartans at the head table for the first time.
That's a big deal for this small club from one of Sydney's most maligned suburbs, and the fact Roberts started the season playing three grades in one day (under-13s, under-14s and under-15s) has led to accusations of overloading. In other words, Mt Druitt have flogged him to achieve results - exactly what Berger argues against. It's a charge Montgomery vehemently, and convincingly, denies.
''What we did at the start of the season was play him for 10-15 minutes in the 13s, probably 40-50 minutes in the 14s, and then another 10-15 minutes in the 15s,'' says Montgomery. ''The issue as we saw it was the cumulative effect of that game time, and we believed we were on the right path in terms of his development. But then I had a chat with 'Crookie' (NSW assistant technical director Ian Crook), and his view that we needed to look at the mental fatigue of having him at the ground from 8am right through to one o'clock. So we listened, and for 99 percent of the season he's played the bulk of his football in the 14s. If we do use him for the 13s, we get him a rub down between games, fluid him up, and make sure he gets his rest. Put it this way, we've become very conscious of his workload. We keep a very close eye on his loading.''
This story is not about villifying Roberts, or his club. It was the Rangers who found him playing local park football 18 months ago, recognised his talent, and scooped him up from under the noses of the Spartans and the Demons, who historically get first pick of the best players from the Blacktown district. It's the Rangers who have picked him up and dropped him off at the local Housing Commission for training and games, fed him, treated him, and helped his family where possible. That's a good news story for a kid born in Guinea and raised in a refugee camp in Sierre Leone before he arrived in Australia four years ago. If football can give him a better future, and Mt Druitt Town play a part in that, then everyone wins. My instinct is that the Rangers, and Montgomery, are a good fit for Roberts at this delicate stage of his development. But there are issues which need to be addressed.
As you read this, Roberts will be in Europe on tour with a private academy. There is talk Stoke City will have a look at him. Locally, the bigger clubs are queuing up to try and prise him away from Mt Druitt Town. If Rangers have their way, he'll stick around until at least next April, when they've been invited to Portugal to play in an under-15s tournament alongside Sporting Lisbon, Benfica, Sevilla and Porto. Yes, that's right, the modest Rangers are off to play against the best. It's all thanks to the connections of the club's under-15s coach, Paul Ribeiro, a former Benfica player.
What it all adds up to, of course, is pressure. Too much pressure? That's the key. ''There's the pressure the kid puts on himself, and he does have high expectations, but the real pressure comes from the sidelines,'' says Montgomery.
It's that environment Berger wants the new curriculum to change. Coach education is a key, but parents, and officials, can also help. ''In a perfect world, if the structures were different, there might not be as much pressure,'' says Montgomery. ''As a concept, I think we'd all agree with that.''
To change attitudes will take time, but the new curriculum does provide the weaponry to help achieve Berger's mission of 'fundamental transformation'. In the meantime Roberts - like any promising youngster - dreams of becoming a professional.
It's how he gets there which will tell us whether we're heading the right way. I'll leave the final word to Montgomery: 'We don't keep them (players), we don't collect them. If he does make it, nobody will be more chuffed than me.''

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/article/implementing-the-new-national-curriculum-the-next-challenge/1pwjfotwjnwjl1mx5fzepkd2p0

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Australia had 22 shots to Thailand's 9.

They also had well over 60% possession and it seemed like a huge territorial advantage.

The penalty shoot out rewarded the better team.

If we play Vietnam in the final it will be interesting as Australia has improved a lot during the tournament.


Need to work on our transitions and try to limit our turnovers in midfield. This is the most technical group of youngsters Ive seen us produce. Unlocking defences will not be an issue.


The turnovers will decrease as this group of players age.

They were created by young players' inconsisitency in passing,and sometimes where players off the ball weren't creating sufficient space by shaking their markers (checking effectively enough, often enough). They still made a lot of mistakes, but the basics were good.

1v1 attacking

*I saw a lot of use of a dribbling technique called La Croqueta. This involves a quick left/right or right /left diagonal inside of the foot dribbling move. It often beats two played in succession in tight spaces.=d>

* They often used the shoulder feint/body swerve where one fakes with the body one way then one takes the ball in the other direction with the outside of the foot , was often used at the appropriate moment.=d>

First touch

Usually pretty good with players taking the ball away from their opponents as they received most of the time with inside and outside of the foot. However, most players need to receive with the outside of the foot with their non-preferred side, like Rogic does.


1v1 defensive skills.

* Often the defence was well positioned as a unit and kept is shape, but individually:

*Too many Thai players won 50/50 tackles.:cry:

*Dribbled around our players.:cry:

* Outmuscled our players.:cry:

This really needs improvement. It has been well coached in the past by the old guard of Aussie football. Also , most of the Aussie lads need to muscle up, which is quite easy at that age with a program of weights 3 times a week. At the same age I went from a puny runt to a big oaf using weights for two years.

What has sharpened to the old Aussie hard man common in the HAL , like Ogger, Moore, Leijer, Boogard, Pantelidis, Muscat, Jacob Burns, Rostyn Griffiths, Shane Lowry, NTS, et al?

*Passing and moving was pretty good. The team played some good football in patches. As they mature, they will make far less mistakes in possession, which precipitated the swift Thai attacking transitions.

*Handling speed was usually good.

*With so much possession , surprisingly, despite the the heat and humidity, they wore Thailand out by starving them of the ball.=d>

*Attacking interplay has improved out of sight. Most of the chances on goal came from open play, with effective combination play.=d>

* Shooting in this game, compared to the last three matches was atrocious.:cry:

There I was thinking Vidmar had done of shooting work on the training ground.](*,)

*Game sense was usually good, even if the execution was often worse than the idea.

*In terms of structure Australia nearly always had a player in the centre of the pitch, maintaining team shape with the ball and without.=d>




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HT Vietnam 1-0 Cambodia. The Vietnamese kids don't look too shabby technically. One of the Vietnamese club sides has an affiliation with Arsenal I think? I know Arsenal played a tour match there a few years back.
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Goal Vietnam, Cambodia doing well to keep a clean sheet so long.

Yep, Vietnam looking the better side so far. If we play them in the final hopefully we can put in a better showing than our previous meeting, we've definitely improved as the tournament has gone on.

They've all started dropping dead after the first goal, before the 30 minute mark even. :lol:

Vietnam striker just took it to the corner flag :lol:
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Forget Adelaide this Brook kid needs to go Europe ASAP, same with this Italiano lad both look technically excellent players who should try and get a decent football education in Europe instead.

Depends on the individuals. Some might not want to go. Also some thrive being the big fish in the small pond.
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Adelphite wrote:
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Goal Vietnam, Cambodia doing well to keep a clean sheet so long.

Yep, Vietnam looking the better side so far. If we play them in the final hopefully we can put in a better showing than our previous meeting, we've definitely improved as the tournament has gone on.

They've all started dropping dead after the first goal, before the 30 minute mark even. :lol:
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Really excited about this group of kids. Some real quality in Brook, Valenti, Italiano and Roberts. Can anyone shed some light on the other bright prospects coming through. The junior ranks are a real mystery to me but I remember mentions of a certain age group being real stand outs, was it the 00/01's?

AU should be getting Brook to training. Im sure they have already made contact. Although he is only 14 (if wiki is correct). :lol:

Pretty sure he's trained with the npl squad or reserves a few times


Forget Adelaide this Brook kid needs to go Europe ASAP, same with this Italiano lad both look technically excellent players who should try and get a decent football education in Europe instead.
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Goal Vietnam, Cambodia doing well to keep a clean sheet so long.

Yep, Vietnam looking the better side so far. If we play them in the final hopefully we can put in a better showing than our previous meeting, we've definitely improved as the tournament has gone on.
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Pretty sure he's trained with the npl squad or reserves a few times

Good carrot to have.
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Goal Vietnam, Cambodia doing well to keep a clean sheet so long.
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scott21 wrote:
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Really excited about this group of kids. Some real quality in Brook, Valenti, Italiano and Roberts. Can anyone shed some light on the other bright prospects coming through. The junior ranks are a real mystery to me but I remember mentions of a certain age group being real stand outs, was it the 00/01's?

AU should be getting Brook to training. Im sure they have already made contact. Although he is only 14 (if wiki is correct). :lol:

Pretty sure he's trained with the npl squad or reserves a few times
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41,000 people watching a YouTube stream for an U16s match between Vietnam and Cambodia - no wonder FIFA considers Asia to be such a huge market!

Over 50k now, and this would be one stream of many, of course.
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did that thai player just kick our guy in the face




Yep not only that the dancing fuckhead tried to shake hands with our blokes on the half way line when he got back to the circle. They cut away before you could see what happened.


A rare case of football karma tonight. Those time wasting, showboating lady boys will cry themselves to sleep tonight. They were literally seconds away from the final.
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Some nice 1v1 in places as well as passing and attacking positional play, although I thought we could have been faster in attack sometimes to try and force an overload. What was with the post? Brooks, Johns, Valenti all have big futures if they keep this up, as did some of the others. Defensive transition, and speed in defense? our wing backs pushed high, so it leaves us exposed to fast counters so we need a placement marshal to force their ball carrier to a corner or break it up enough for others to track back, in those 2v2 counter situations. Good to see the team effectively implement proactive football for the full 90 and not get desperate in the last 10 and try to log it over the top. Win or lose against Vietnam it is good to see the development of the team over the tournament and its growing confidence in the style
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Was quite a spicy match actually. Good training for the roos. Character building some would say.
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