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Pasquali - 15 Jun 2022 11:48 PM
scubaroo - 15 Jun 2022 11:44 PM

But his right leg literally accelerated, after he kicked him the first time. You can see that if you analyse it. 

That point his front leg moves,  is the same point that his momentum changes, it makes complete sense that he would do that. In real time it is a perfectly natural movement that he clearly has no control over. The movement created by kicking the ball and then the contact by the saudi player. 

At worst it's terrible decision making by multiple referees and at best,  it's a guess which is almost as bad.
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Pasquali - 15 Jun 2022 11:45 PM
huddo - 15 Jun 2022 11:43 PM

He could have got away with the first kick, but that 2nd kick was definitely deliberate. No one falls like that

No it is not, his leg straightens because he is falling over backwards.
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Roar in me Blood - 15 Jun 2022 6:50 PM
For the game tonight, I have a horrible feeling that the Saudis are going to incite Brooks and Yazbek into stupid behaviour and get them carded - possibly off.

Frustration seems to get to both of them and a game of sportsmanship in a significant game could see them sucked in.

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Alfred - 15 Jun 2022 11:54 PM
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No it is not, his leg straightens because he is falling over backwards.

As someone with a few years of Muay thai, and MMA experience that looked deliberate. That's just my take
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Pasquali - 15 Jun 2022 11:45 PM
huddo - 15 Jun 2022 11:43 PM

He could have got away with the first kick, but that 2nd kick was definitely deliberate. No one falls like that

So after his leg catches the shoulder, and he started turning back the other direction, there is no way in hell he could be correcting to try and right a awkward fall.

In a 1/50th of a second, or two freeze frames, you have determined that Rich is showing intent to kick (having no stable point to do it from) and that the situation couldn't have been accidental (with the bloke floating a metre off the ground)?


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Is Francois all aesthetic and little substance. Everything he does looks good but doesn't ever seem to be effective or amount to anything. 
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Pasquali - 15 Jun 2022 11:55 PM
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As someone with a few years of Muay thai, and MMA experience that looked deliberate. That's just my take

Wonder how much mauy thai Rich has done?
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Absolutely disgraceful from AFC referees. Tournament doesn’t mean anything so I’m not fazed but would be nice to win. Apart from the goal we were all over them before the card 
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This might be a reach but I swear bility got punched in the head by the keeper and it didn’t even get looked at surely it’s a foul
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On the plus side we were easily outplaying the Saudi's before the goal against the run of play. We seemed to be doing well at working the ball through the press which has always been an issue. 

They have also bought a proper under 23 side vs our young side so I think there are definitely some pluses. 
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verrelli - 15 Jun 2022 11:46 PM
3 red cards this tournament and all controversial. The refs are either incompetent or worse, they are impartial. No way that was a red card. JRB was the one being fouled. 

This is Saudi Arabia ...in case U didn't know. Red card and penalty very often happened to any teams everyone in asia knew this except Australia. The coach must make sure with the players every single time whenever playing against the Saudis at any level the players must be disciplined  or red card and penalty will be given by the ref. Didn't they learnt anything by now being in Asia for over 15 years.
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If someone hits you unexpectedly, you don't have time to consider the effect as you try and twist your upper body to land in as much control as you can. Physics says that is going to have a corresponding reaction in your lower half and I do not think the referees have enough biodynamic training to call that deliberate no matter how much it looked like two actions.

Twist your own upper body to the right as you imagine falling that way and tell me that your left hip doesn't twist and your left leg kick up and in like JRB's did. It does when I do it.

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scubaroo - 15 Jun 2022 11:54 PM
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That point his front leg moves,  is the same point that his momentum changes, it makes complete sense that he would do that. In real time it is a perfectly natural movement that he clearly has no control over. The movement created by kicking the ball and then the contact by the saudi player. 

At worst it's terrible decision making by multiple referees and at best,  it's a guess which is almost as bad.

I would have to see it again, though his hip rotation did not look like someone who was trying not to hurt his opponent.
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It was deliberate. Sorry guys. It sucks but he isn't used to VAR maybe. 
JRB needs to lay off the roids

Idiotic player, needs to grow up fast coz has potential 
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Middle Eastern refs are shit.
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Davide82 - 16 Jun 2022 12:02 AM
It was deliberate. Sorry guys. It sucks but he isn't used to VAR maybe. 
JRB needs to lay off the roids

Idiotic player, needs to grow up fast coz has potential 

This
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Capac - 16 Jun 2022 12:00 AM
On the plus side we were easily outplaying the Saudi's before the goal against the run of play. We seemed to be doing well at working the ball through the press which has always been an issue. 

They have also bought a proper under 23 side vs our young side so I think there are definitely some pluses. 

Yes we were although the defending for the goal was bad.

I am not sure how we are going to score. I think we need Wood on Kuol at about 60, he has been really good at holding up the ball when he has come on.
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3 red cards in 3 games is wild

I missed this one, thought the 1st one had a logic to it albeit harsh (since he trips over the ball) and the second one was silly

it is afc so important to learn now
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scubaroo - 15 Jun 2022 11:54 PM
Pasquali - 15 Jun 2022 11:48 PM

That point his front leg moves,  is the same point that his momentum changes, it makes complete sense that he would do that. In real time it is a perfectly natural movement that he clearly has no control over. The movement created by kicking the ball and then the contact by the saudi player. 

At worst it's terrible decision making by multiple referees and at best,  it's a guess which is almost as bad.

No it wasn't normal. He deserved a red card
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It was deliberate. Sorry guys. It sucks but he isn't used to VAR maybe. 
JRB needs to lay off the roids

Idiotic player, needs to grow up fast coz has potential 
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JDUB - 15 Jun 2022 11:59 PM
This might be a reach but I swear bility got punched in the head by the keeper and it didn’t even get looked at surely it’s a foul

Well that's right. There was a punch to his head. Violent play right? 
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Roar in me Blood - 16 Jun 2022 12:01 AM
If someone hits you unexpectedly, you don't have time to consider the effect as you try and twist your upper body to land in as much control as you can. 

Yes you do. 
Every time I was taken out I tried to land on or kick or stomp the player that did it and look like I'm falling. 
JRB has form as well. Even in this game he had lashed out a couple of times
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Davide82 - 16 Jun 2022 12:02 AM
It was deliberate. Sorry guys. It sucks but he isn't used to VAR maybe. 
JRB needs to lay off the roids

Idiotic player, needs to grow up fast coz has potential 

Hey guys, Davide82 has said it's wasn't an accident. Couldn't possibly have been an accident in the air with no contact to the ground, lying horizontally, falling backwards, flailing, over a period of a millisecond.

Continue on.
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We need Joe Rogan's thoughts on if the kick was deliberate or not
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huddo - 16 Jun 2022 12:09 AM
Davide82 - 16 Jun 2022 12:02 AM

Hey guys, Davide82 has said it's wasn't an accident. Couldn't possibly have been an accident in the air with no contact to the ground, lying horizontally, falling backwards, flailing, over a period of a millisecond.

Continue on.

You guys with your pseudo science explanations. I swear some of you haven't even played amateur level sport
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Alfred - 16 Jun 2022 12:04 AM
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Yes we were although the defending for the goal was bad.

I am not sure how we are going to score. I think we need Wood on Kuol at about 60, he has been really good at holding up the ball when he has come on.

Id love to see 3-3-3 with a deep lying centre striker

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Oh here we go! Go on. Give them a penalty. He's fucking run in front of Bility. Jumps. How can you land so far away without a hard kick in the back. Utter flop! 
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Do you guys honestly think once you're in the air you black out and lose control over your limbs?

He took two swipes at him already having lashed out at two other players 

I hate the Saudis and I hate these refa but this was dumb
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Actually looks like a pen to me.

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