Disagree.

Spira is now a bit of a bully boy, which defences need. With his distribution, handling speed, first touch and ball carrying qualities, and his game sense, which is as good as any CB we have, he and Sainsbury are the best CB pairing we have ever had, similar to Neill/Moore at their peak.

The Ryan/Spira/Sains combo was integral in delivering us the Asian Cup.




Edited by Decentric: 16/3/2016 09:25:11 AM

Have we been watching the same games?:?

Same games. There are other guys ahead of Spiro now. Don't have to agree. Hope right back S Galloway gets a go in near future too.

agree that it was a good pairing.

have you had a chance to look at many CSL games decentric? what's your perspective on the game there? how do you feel about our NT squad members playing in china? Do you think it's a good place for someone like sainsbury to go to develop his football?

CSL teams in this years ACL look to be better then both J and K-league teams ..

what about the rest of the league?

scotland also has 3 or 4 good teams in top flight...

season only 2 games in...but Matthew Spiranovic and Tim Cahill look to be playing for a mid table team

SO with all the hype around Jmac, and his imminent selection in the upcoming friendlies. i feel like Chris Harold's form has gone under the radar a little.

the socceroos are still very thin in the striking department. Appo coming in is a good step but he is 26 i feel like his selection is strategic if it doesn't pay with immediate goals does ange persist? , JMac 22, if Harold (23) maintains this level of form for the remainder of the season surely he has to come in to contention.. We know taggart had a 16 goal season and ended up in a world cup squad.. why should Harold not have the same treatment. Juric is inconsistent, Cahill is getting old. Mac and Harold have both shown good pace and a poachers instinct this season.
thoughts on Harold?

current strikers
Cahill, Juric, Burns all capped and off the mark , Jmac, Appo, Harold uncapped. all of a sudden are we seeing a little depth?



Edited by toffee's_or_roar: 20/3/2016 09:40:50 PM

Milligan right back?
:shock:
Bizarre to say the least.

Edited by perthjay85: 20/3/2016 09:50:13 PM

Inala brah has been pushing that agenda for eons. Milligan shouldnt even be in the squad tbh.

there was a while when milligan was outperforming jedinak

milligan played rb on at least one occasion for the nt. it was one of the best rb performances in the nt for years. the only other person to match it recently has been williams.

I once filled in for my mates Sunday league team and played striker. Had a blinder and scored 5 goals. Ange should probably call me up since this single performance makes me a better striker than Messi.

Milligan should be out, Jackson Irvine in.

irvine should be in. milligan should be playing in a better league - but the tards fkd him.

Aww yeah. Love to know how so.

he was screwed out of a crystal palace deal...

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/epl-outfit-crystal-palace-withdraw-their-interest-in-melbourne-victory-midfielder-mark-milligan/story-e6frf4gl-1226709358088

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Edited by inala brah: 21/3/2016 11:17:55 AM

With no real quality of experience at the back, Wilkshire should be called back up.

Injured.

After making an initial mistake, all the stats, etc, I did on him for the Socceroos against Germany showed LDV had a good game against the highest quality opposition.

He couldn't be bothered to meet the standards of a new manager.

He can fuck off.

Well it appears he now has standards higher than the manager's.

-----------------------------------Ryan-------------------------------

Risdon------------Sainsbury--------Wright---------Smith----

--------------------------------Jedinak------------------------------

------------------Luongo------------------Mooy-------------------

---------------------------------Rogic--------------------------------

-----------------Giannou-----------------Cahill--------------------


Or if its 4-3-3.

Risdon---------Sainsbury--------Wright---------Smith-------

--------------------------------Jedinak------------------------------

----------------Luongo-----------------Mooy/Rogic-------------

Kruse-------------------------------------------------Leckie-------

-------------------------------Cahill---------------------------------

i haven't watched the CSL, although the calibre of some of the players in the ACL is fantastic.

Joicelei and Gil for the Shanghai team who beat a naive AU, were top drawer. These players are not strikers either.

Someone like Green Lionii submitted a list of the amount of money CSL clubs have spent on recruiting high quality footballers playing in top European leagues. Prospective Socceroos playing there would have to be playing against some very high calibre opposition. The CSL have also recruited some very good European coaches.

The CSL probably has higher calibre opposition than nearly all of our players are playing against in Europe, apart from the few playing EPL, La Liga and Bundesliga.

The CSL teams playing in the ACL may be the best out of the Japanese, Korean and Aussie clubs.

I think we have to appraise the CSL differently from what we have before. It is better for experienced players to go there, who know their own game well. Inexperienced players may be thrown on the scrapheap in the CSL, if they are not the immediate package.

What the fuck does that mean. He couldn't be bothered to cooperate with Ange when he was playing in a good league in the Netherlands. Higher league has nothing to do with it, Him being a better players etc means absolutely nothing if he can't fucking be bothered to fully cooperate with a new manager.

Anyone other than him is better for the national team because they'll actually give it their all and actually cooperate with Ange. He's our worst right back because of his shit attitude.

Marc Warren would be better for the national team now than Wilkshire ffs.

It means he's playing at a higher level than any of the manager's other options. The manager is now picking players from leagues and with game minutes that go against his earlier statements.

So by that it's Ange's standards that have slipped, not Wilkshire's

Edited by tsf: 21/3/2016 12:08:09 PM

You ignored the rest of my post.

Anges standards would have slipped if he picks Wilkshire.

Edited by socceroofan4life: 21/3/2016 12:12:26 PM

Interesting looking at the two mooted line ups.

Wilko is far more experienced than Sains or Wright. For City Wilko is a bit slow over the turf if chasing and running towards one's own goal.

Having said this, Wilko is a very, very clever player, with terrific game sense. For me he partners Sains who he knows well from his CCM days, and Matt Ryan.

The Socceroos need his organisational experience. A player needs to know his/her own game well, before s/he can think about organising others.

All teams need a coach on the pitch. Wilko is that person in the back four. Wilko usually has 100% passing accuracy, as he is rarely over ambitious and makes good decisions under pressure. One often doesn't notice Wilko, because he is so often in the right place at the right time in Ball Possession Opposition.

City have conceded only one goal in the the last three games, under Wilko's steadying influence at the back.



Against Tajikstan I would like to see what Giannou can do instead of Cahill. I expect him to be no more than an average Socceroo, as I think there is still too much Euro adulation in this country outside the Euro big five leagues.

Many mid ranked and lower ranked clubs in lop-sided European leagues, are probably no better than the best C League and the average K, J and A league teams.

I am emphatic about this from watching a lot of European qualifiers. I respectfully disagree with Melbourne Terrace, whose opinion I respect, because I think the 2006 Socceroos struggled in the 2007 Asian Cup as they weren't used to playing in Asia.

Giannou is no different.

Like many Euroroos he comes with a lot of fanfare, from an Oz media who adulate Europe. The differential between the last 16 in the UEFA Champ League, and most mid table clubs outside the European big five, is astonishing.

Edited by Decentric: 21/3/2016 12:18:39 PM

The calibre of C League imports has improved immeasurably.

The imports we see from Shanghai, Evergrande and one of the other teams Victory or SFC played in the ACL in the last few weeks, has really improved.

The constant message from FFA Conferences is nothing stays the same in football.

Some pundits in Oz, still talk about the European/Asian/Australian football milieu exactly as it was 10 years ago. The milieu has changed.




Edited by Decentric: 21/3/2016 12:41:38 PM

Don't mind either of them, but if it's the diamond, you won't see Leckie on the bench. He'd start over Cahill or Giannou.

Like the look of the 4-3-3, but with Giannou over Cahill. If he's scoring in the Greek league he can score against Tajikistan.

yep...J-League keep going down year after year

what i find funny is, how Brazil NT players are look at being not much of a player when he not in Europe, but the Brazilian players who not being selected in NT, is still a super star if he in a European champ league team

yeap...they talk about Europe Football the way it was 10 years ago.....European football has become top heavy