7000 syrians to be resettled in Sydney


7000 syrians to be resettled in Sydney

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TheSelectFew wrote:
That sounds a lot better. They should be put where the numbers are dropping. Such as rural communities. It's not an easy issue but i genuinely believe this will make Australia stronger as a nation.


It all comes down to employment prospects I think.
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benelsmore wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
That sounds a lot better. They should be put where the numbers are dropping. Such as rural communities. It's not an easy issue but i genuinely believe this will make Australia stronger as a nation.


It all comes down to employment prospects I think.


For me, they will create jobs just by coming here. More teaching jobs, more tradie jobs to build houses. May take a few years of growing pains but if you use imagination this could be a huge injection of life to rural communities.


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batfink wrote:
Munrubenmuz wrote:
batfink wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
batfink wrote:


lol, we got a leftie bitch down the road who bangs on about how fucked Australia is with refugees, i asked her is she wanted them to come to our village and live next door to her, she went quite and eventually said no, another typical NIMBY


To my genuine surprise thousands have signed up to house refugees when they come. Good one them, I commend them for their generosity.

Out of curiosity, I do wonder how long they're expected to house these people for?


OR, "it seemed like a good idea at the time" could be the quote in hindsight


OR perhaps, rather than being bitter hate-filled, blame everybody else for their woes, narcissists they might possess a skerrick of humanity and want to help others less fortunate than themselves.

I mean, just maybe.

Edited by munrubenmuz: 21/9/2015 09:49:15 AM


maybe....but you have to be realistic....doesn't always mean your bitter or hate filled....

having been there and done that i only comment from experience, sorry to disappoint.


You only comment from experience?

Please finky, tell me about all the refugees you've selflessly put up in your home before...
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Because it is a decent size group of people coming with short notice, it will just be about finding places with infrastructure in place.

Whilst I agree with most that it is better to put them in towns where people are needed, it is also a bit of an exaggeration to think 7000 people added to a population of over 4 million creates much pressure at all on infrastructure.

The fact is, as the article states - we have been bringing people in for decades that have impoverished, non-English speaking backgrounds without issue. We are an immigrant society. I think people are getting a bit alarmist.
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batfink wrote:
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Thread proves there is still a significant xenophobic element in Australian society


There's anti-immigration sentiment in absolutely every country.

For some reason it seems to be magnified by bleeding hearts in western countries who are all talk and morals with no backbone.

Hell 12,000 refugees is fine, it's a solid investment in making people's lives better. I've seen people demanding we take 50k+. All well and good to sit behind a computer and blast us with your moral high ground.


lol, we got a leftie bitch down the road who bangs on about how fucked Australia is with refugees, i asked her is she wanted them to come to our village and live next door to her, she went quite and eventually said no, another typical NIMBY


I've lived in areas in Western Sydney that have plenty of refugees. When we were kids my brothers best mates were Muslim refugees from Somalia, their old man used to be captain of the national team back in the day they were a great bunch of people. Half of my football team in my teens were refugees from Serbia and Croatia, they were so technically skilled it improved the rest of our games. I'm still mates with them to this day. Refugees have enriched my life, negative nancies like you do the opposite.

Once when I was in between jobs I was sitting in the back of Blacktown Centrelink waiting for my number to be called. On the otherwise of the room an African family was lined up. A extremely fat white man was sitting behind me complaining to anyone that would listen about thes black bastards coming over here to steal our tax payer money and live off the back of Aussies hard work. I had enough turned around and said "and here you are doing the same thing you fat cunt" I didn't hear his reply over the sound of applause from the other people around me.

I often read your posts and wonder if that was you.
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Fourfiveone wrote:
batfink wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
trident wrote:
Thread proves there is still a significant xenophobic element in Australian society


There's anti-immigration sentiment in absolutely every country.

For some reason it seems to be magnified by bleeding hearts in western countries who are all talk and morals with no backbone.

Hell 12,000 refugees is fine, it's a solid investment in making people's lives better. I've seen people demanding we take 50k+. All well and good to sit behind a computer and blast us with your moral high ground.


lol, we got a leftie bitch down the road who bangs on about how fucked Australia is with refugees, i asked her is she wanted them to come to our village and live next door to her, she went quite and eventually said no, another typical NIMBY


I've lived in areas in Western Sydney that have plenty of refugees. When we were kids my brothers best mates were Muslim refugees from Somalia, their old man used to be captain of the national team back in the day they were a great bunch of people. Half of my football team in my teens were refugees from Serbia and Croatia, they were so technically skilled it improved the rest of our games. I'm still mates with them to this day. Refugees have enriched my life, negative nancies like you do the opposite.

Once when I was in between jobs I was sitting in the back of Blacktown Centrelink waiting for my number to be called. On the otherwise of the room an African family was lined up. A extremely fat white man was sitting behind me complaining to anyone that would listen about thes black bastards coming over here to steal our tax payer money and live off the back of Aussies hard work. I had enough turned around and said "and here you are doing the same thing you fat cunt" I didn't hear his reply over the sound of applause from the other people around me.

I often read your posts and wonder if that was you.


Nah mate it was your lover.......

For the record, my comments were about a woman who has opened her house to allow these refugees to live within her family unit, i have no problem with true refugees coming to Australia as long as they integrate and get on with being a productive part of our nation. I have had experience housing people within my family unit and it generally only works short term, and can cause internal rifts. So it is preferable for them to have their own place.

I too grew up with refugees and immigrants and learnt a lot from them, working in market gardens, workshops and farms for pocket money.

the other point i was making was the Leftie bitch i know is all for the refugees coming here (as i am) but when asked if she would have them in our community or next door to her she replied NO.....a NIMBY....Not In My Back Yard

the guy (your lover) in centrelink is a hypocrite if he is on one hand receiving payment for doing nothing(centrelink) then complaining that another human is doing the same......


anyway have a good day;) ;) ;)
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AzzaMarch wrote:
I think people are getting a bit alarmist.

I think you need to be more specific - it's right wingers who are getting alarmist.
Anti-immigration and right wing ideology go hand in glove.
STOP. THE. BOATS. (lest we forget)
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
I think people are getting a bit alarmist.

I think you need to be more specific - it's right wingers who are getting alarmist.
Anti-immigration and right wing ideology go hand in glove.
STOP. THE. BOATS. (lest we forget)


more trolling......:-"
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
I think people are getting a bit alarmist.

I think you need to be more specific - it's right wingers who are getting alarmist.
Anti-immigration and right wing ideology go hand in glove.
STOP. THE. BOATS. (lest we forget)


:lol: damn Christians. Right wingers are all christians right?
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Clear delineation along ideological lines towards immigration
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-11/vote-compass-full-data-explorer/5016244

Filter by Question:
- How many new immigrants should Australia admit?
- Asylum seekers who arrive by boat should not be allowed to settle in Australia.
- Boat carrying asylum seekers should be turner back.


then filter by Demographic Group
Ideology

Its easiest to see the disparity when comparing left to right, but even if you tally up left/centre-left v right/centre right, its clear that right wingers are against immigration.

Happy to jump on Google Scholar & link research papers on right wing ideology & immigration

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batfink wrote:
Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
I think people are getting a bit alarmist.

I think you need to be more specific - it's right wingers who are getting alarmist.
Anti-immigration and right wing ideology go hand in glove.
STOP. THE. BOATS. (lest we forget)


more trolling......:-"


You are so bad at understanding what trolling is lol.

-PB

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paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
I think people are getting a bit alarmist.

I think you need to be more specific - it's right wingers who are getting alarmist.
Anti-immigration and right wing ideology go hand in glove.
STOP. THE. BOATS. (lest we forget)


more trolling......:-"


You are so bad at understanding what trolling is lol.

-PB


Really?....do tell...
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benelsmore wrote:
Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
I think people are getting a bit alarmist.

I think you need to be more specific - it's right wingers who are getting alarmist.
Anti-immigration and right wing ideology go hand in glove.
STOP. THE. BOATS. (lest we forget)


:lol: damn Christians. Right wingers are all christians right?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-11/vote-compass-full-data-explorer/5016244

Filter by Question:
- How accessible should abortion services be in Australia?
- Marriage should only be between a man and a woman
- Terminally ill patients should be legally able to end their lives with the help of medical assistance.


then filter by Demographic Group
Ideology

Considering the position of the Torah, Quran & Bible on the issue of abortion, homosexuality & suicide, its fair enough to consider these to be religiously related questions/statements.
There is again a clear delineation of religious belief along ideological lines.

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batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
I think people are getting a bit alarmist.

I think you need to be more specific - it's right wingers who are getting alarmist.
Anti-immigration and right wing ideology go hand in glove.
STOP. THE. BOATS. (lest we forget)


more trolling......:-"


You are so bad at understanding what trolling is lol.

-PB


Really?....do tell...


That wasn't trolling.

"The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue. Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn't count as trolling; it's just flaming, and isn't funny. Spam isn't trolling either; it pisses people off, but it's lame.

The most essential part of trolling is convincing your victim that either a) truly believe in what you are saying, no matter how outrageous, or b) give your victim malicious instructions, under the guise of help.
Trolling requires decieving; any trolling that doesn't involve decieving someone isn't trolling at all; it's just stupid. As such, your victim must not know that you are trolling; if he does, you are an unsuccesful troll."

You are just bad at understanding shit.

-PB

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paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
I think people are getting a bit alarmist.

I think you need to be more specific - it's right wingers who are getting alarmist.
Anti-immigration and right wing ideology go hand in glove.
STOP. THE. BOATS. (lest we forget)


more trolling......:-"


You are so bad at understanding what trolling is lol.

-PB


Really?....do tell...


That wasn't trolling.

"The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue. Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn't count as trolling; it's just flaming, and isn't funny. Spam isn't trolling either; it pisses people off, but it's lame.

The most essential part of trolling is convincing your victim that either a) truly believe in what you are saying, no matter how outrageous, or b) give your victim malicious instructions, under the guise of help.
Trolling requires decieving; any trolling that doesn't involve decieving someone isn't trolling at all; it's just stupid. As such, your victim must not know that you are trolling; if he does, you are an unsuccesful troll."

You are just bad at understanding shit.

-PB


thanks for that......My Bad..:d

no i am not BAD at understanding shit, i just look at things from a different perspective.
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Eid mubarak to all . Have a nice day
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batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
I think people are getting a bit alarmist.

I think you need to be more specific - it's right wingers who are getting alarmist.
Anti-immigration and right wing ideology go hand in glove.
STOP. THE. BOATS. (lest we forget)


more trolling......:-"


You are so bad at understanding what trolling is lol.

-PB


Really?....do tell...


That wasn't trolling.

"The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue. Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn't count as trolling; it's just flaming, and isn't funny. Spam isn't trolling either; it pisses people off, but it's lame.

The most essential part of trolling is convincing your victim that either a) truly believe in what you are saying, no matter how outrageous, or b) give your victim malicious instructions, under the guise of help.
Trolling requires decieving; any trolling that doesn't involve decieving someone isn't trolling at all; it's just stupid. As such, your victim must not know that you are trolling; if he does, you are an unsuccesful troll."

You are just bad at understanding shit.

-PB


thanks for that......My Bad..:d

no i am not BAD at understanding shit, i just look at things from a different perspective.


Mayhaps.

-PB

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paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
[quote=AzzaMarch]I think people are getting a bit alarmist.

I think you need to be more specific - it's right wingers who are getting alarmist.
Anti-immigration and right wing ideology go hand in glove.
STOP. THE. BOATS. (lest we forget)


more trolling......:-"


You are so bad at understanding what trolling is lol.

-PB


Really?....do tell...


That wasn't trolling.

"The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue. Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn't count as trolling; it's just flaming, and isn't funny. Spam isn't trolling either; it pisses people off, but it's lame.

The most essential part of trolling is convincing your victim that either a) truly believe in what you are saying, no matter how outrageous, or b) give your victim malicious instructions, under the guise of help.
Trolling requires decieving; any trolling that doesn't involve decieving someone isn't trolling at all; it's just stupid. As such, your victim must not know that you are trolling; if he does, you are an unsuccesful troll."

You are just bad at understanding shit.

-PB


thanks for that......My Bad..:d

no i am not BAD at understanding shit, i just look at things from a different perspective.


Mayhaps.

-PB[/quot

Perbe?
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
I think people are getting a bit alarmist.

I think you need to be more specific - it's right wingers who are getting alarmist.
Anti-immigration and right wing ideology go hand in glove.
STOP. THE. BOATS. (lest we forget)


:lol: damn Christians. Right wingers are all christians right?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-11/vote-compass-full-data-explorer/5016244

Filter by Question:
- How accessible should abortion services be in Australia?
- Marriage should only be between a man and a woman
- Terminally ill patients should be legally able to end their lives with the help of medical assistance.


then filter by Demographic Group
Ideology

Considering the position of the Torah, Quran & Bible on the issue of abortion, homosexuality & suicide, its fair enough to consider these to be religiously related questions/statements.
There is again a clear delineation of religious belief along ideological lines.


Genuine surprise that only 10.7% overall strongly agree we need to provide more foreign aid $$$.

Quite an eye opening like, thanks.
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TheSelectFew wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
That sounds a lot better. They should be put where the numbers are dropping. Such as rural communities. It's not an easy issue but i genuinely believe this will make Australia stronger as a nation.


It all comes down to employment prospects I think.


For me, they will create jobs just by coming here. More teaching jobs, more tradie jobs to build houses. May take a few years of growing pains but if you use imagination this could be a huge injection of life to rural communities.


Sounds like crossing our fingers and hoping for the best. These houses, who's paying for that? Do they want to live there, do we fence them in? Hypothetically, what if it had the inverse effect and drove more people away including the new arrivals due to increasingly limited employment or became a huge financial burden for the taxpayer having to offer generous incentives to attract skilled workers from the big smoke like doctors, nurses, social workers etc to service their needs.
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Why should we take any refugees? Migration should be limited only to those who provide the most benefit to Australia. The program allowing Chinese to get PR for investments over 5 million is a much better outcome, it should be expanded at the cost of refugees.
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Because we are a signatory to the UN refugee convention and one of the wealthiest countries in the history of the planet?
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First we didn't want the Europeans fleeing the world wars, then we didn't want the Wogs in the 70's and 80's, we didn't want the Islanders in the 90's or the Chinese in the 00's. All these groups of people are now a vital part of our country and have changed Australia for the better in almost all cases. People are very short sighted when they think about immigration and focus solely on the negatives when there are so many more positives that come with it.
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AzzaMarch wrote:
Because we are a signatory to the UN refugee convention and one of the wealthiest countries in the history of the planet?


So? Why take the poor and downtrodden who offer us nothing but criminal dregs when we take those who will benefit our country?

An issue that hasn't been raised here is the increase in sectarian violence that will take place across Western Sydney as a result. Not only Sunni v Shia but most of the Lebanese population are here as a result of the Lebanese civil war and brutal Syrian occupation. That generation that came here and their children still hate Syrians for that more than the Lebanese who stayed in Lebanon.
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Crusader wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
Because we are a signatory to the UN refugee convention and one of the wealthiest countries in the history of the planet?


So? Why take the poor and downtrodden who offer us nothing but criminal dregs when we take those who will benefit our country?

An issue that hasn't been raised here is the increase in sectarian violence that will take place across Western Sydney as a result. Not only Sunni v Shia but most of the Lebanese population are here as a result of the Lebanese civil war and brutal Syrian occupation. That generation that came here and their children still hate Syrians for that more than the Lebanese who stayed in Lebanon.


=; No right wing sentiment in here please :p

Moral high ground > everything else.
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benelsmore wrote:
Crusader wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
Because we are a signatory to the UN refugee convention and one of the wealthiest countries in the history of the planet?


So? Why take the poor and downtrodden who offer us nothing but criminal dregs when we take those who will benefit our country?

An issue that hasn't been raised here is the increase in sectarian violence that will take place across Western Sydney as a result. Not only Sunni v Shia but most of the Lebanese population are here as a result of the Lebanese civil war and brutal Syrian occupation. That generation that came here and their children still hate Syrians for that more than the Lebanese who stayed in Lebanon.


=; No right wing sentiment in here please :p

Agree. Otherwise my IQ takes at least a 30 point hit :-#
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Murdoch Rags Ltd wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
Crusader wrote:
AzzaMarch wrote:
Because we are a signatory to the UN refugee convention and one of the wealthiest countries in the history of the planet?


So? Why take the poor and downtrodden who offer us nothing but criminal dregs when we take those who will benefit our country?

An issue that hasn't been raised here is the increase in sectarian violence that will take place across Western Sydney as a result. Not only Sunni v Shia but most of the Lebanese population are here as a result of the Lebanese civil war and brutal Syrian occupation. That generation that came here and their children still hate Syrians for that more than the Lebanese who stayed in Lebanon.


=; No right wing sentiment in here please :p

Agree. Otherwise my IQ takes at least a 30 point hit :-#


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"offer us nothing but criminal dregs"

Generalisation much? Have you noticed the amount of English speakers among the Syrians trekking through Europe? Doctors, engineers, educated etc.

I would love to seem any substantiation of your "criminal dregs" accusation.
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Of all the stuff I watched on CNN and ABC News 24 on the weekend, the Syrians fleeing to Europe seem to be doing it in some rather nice clothing...

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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paulbagzFC wrote:
Of all the stuff I watched on CNN and ABC News 24 on the weekend, the Syrians fleeing to Europe seem to be doing it in some rather nice clothing...

-PB

I thought that as well :lol:
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